New Master Gem + Forging List!

[Blade Dancer]

How many can actually be forged? Not many recipes are known, if they even exist. Can anyone forge any elemental gem other than dark or light on a whim? What about a recipe for an xp hex gem?

Maybe we should make a quick list and study it to look for clues.

So far I can think of:

Rare Spectrum
Rare Darkfire
Rare Defense
Rare XP
Rare Elemental Attack Gem (fire, ice, water, shock,poison,wind,light,dark)
Rare Health Stat Gem
Rare Attack Stat Gem
Rare Shield Stat Gem
Rare Magic Stat Gem
Hex Drop +Rare Item
Light defense
Dark defense

Am I missing any?

[Edoc'sil]

Also, I don't mind wasting a block all/On5CCC gem since I have about 4 of both, but only 1 parry all/Combo slash +1 as of now

Combo slash+1 doesn't work anyway.

[SpencerTT]

(possible) breakthrough...

forged light + forged dark + ANY hex = rare defense
three rare defense = rare xp hex

now the interesting part...
forged light + forged dark + rare xp hex = rare defense (!?)

This makes rare xp hex gem the ONLY gem that can go backwards in price after forging (rare xp hex (25,000) rare defense (20,000))

I'd say these gems:

normal light and dark defense
forged light and dark defense
rare defense
rare xp hex
rare drop+ hex (25%)

must have some combination that yields 1 (or both) of the two gems we are still missing.

[Blade Dancer]

Awesome find! This means that it really is the combination that's the problem. We should try

rainbow_def + forged_dark + rare xp?

[Stelios]

I'm down for this path, I thought I'd have to forge away my party alls and On5CCC's . Nice find

[Insert]

(possible) breakthrough...

forged light + forged dark + ANY hex = rare defense
three rare defense = rare xp hex

now the interesting part...
forged light + forged dark + rare xp hex = rare defense (!?)

This makes rare xp hex gem the ONLY gem that can go backwards in price after forging (rare xp hex (25,000) rare defense (20,000))

I'd say these gems:

normal light and dark defense
forged light and dark defense
rare defense
rare xp hex
rare drop+ hex (25%)

must have some combination that yields 1 (or both) of the two gems we are still missing.

Maybe...however if you think about it, it DOES make sense.

Rare Xp is a HEX gem. the formula for rare defense is - forged light, forged dark, any hex gem. Therefore, since rare xp is a hex gem, it can be forged into a rare defense - it's just a coincidence that three rare defs = a hex gem.

Or is it? dun dun dun...

[Silversabeast]

(possible) breakthrough...

forged light + forged dark + ANY hex = rare defense
three rare defense = rare xp hex

now the interesting part...
forged light + forged dark + rare xp hex = rare defense (!?)

This makes rare xp hex gem the ONLY gem that can go backwards in price after forging (rare xp hex (25,000) rare defense (20,000))

I'd say these gems:

normal light and dark defense
forged light and dark defense
rare defense
rare xp hex
rare drop+ hex (25%)

must have some combination that yields 1 (or both) of the two gems we are still missing.

Hey there spencer! Haven't seen you in a while...

[Stelios]

Stelios, you're so lucky I have gotten around 10 parry alls but no 5CCC...really sucks b/c that's the best "special" gem, on par with CS +1

Just put 3 drop gem+525% gems into either kerrak or nodus, i got all mine as titan drops this way at RB ~ 135
If you really want one from a gem wheel, be sure to spin the small 50k ones, as I think the big ones only give gems worth 500k.

[Insert]

Just put 3 drop gem+525% gems into either kerrak or nodus, i got all mine as titan drops this way at RB ~ 135
If you really want one from a gem wheel, be sure to spin the small 50k ones, as I think the big ones only give gems worth 500k.

Is 5CCC less than 500000? Oh, then I've been doing things wrong…

[Stelios]

It's 125,000, I was surprised too. But I highly recommend the other way - I seem to get them more and more frequently as my RB's climb, I'm fairly confident I could get one in an hour of grinding with no prize wheels or chests at all

[Edoc'sil]

I get them all the time at RB 200-250

[Stelios]

Yeah I'm at 150 and at one point had a whole row of block-alls.mi can't seem to get CS+1/parry-all (at one time I had 3 parry-alls, down to one now and can't seem to get them to drop)

[Stelios]

(possible) breakthrough...

forged light + forged dark + ANY hex = rare defense
three rare defense = rare xp hex

now the interesting part...
forged light + forged dark + rare xp hex = rare defense (!?)

This makes rare xp hex gem the ONLY gem that can go backwards in price after forging (rare xp hex (25,000) rare defense (20,000))

I'd say these gems:

normal light and dark defense
forged light and dark defense
rare defense
rare xp hex
rare drop+ hex (25%)

must have some combination that yields 1 (or both) of the two gems we are still missing.

Can I ask why the drop+hex's are important?

[SpencerTT]

@ Sab
Yeah, I took a break for a while, but I've still been keeping up with the forums.
When I found out we hadn't discovered all the gems yet, I couldn't resist

@Stelios
Yeah, it's not a strong lead, but my thought on that was "well... they put rare in the name... so... maybe?"

@ All
Has anyone else noticed that we have found a rare gem for each non-weapon specific gem archetype except triangle?
Hex: rare xp
Diamond: rare defense
round: all of them
square: all of them plus spectrum/darkfire
triangle: nothing!

It also greatly concerns me that the on parry 1000 damage triangle gem sits at the top of the gem ladder (always occupies upper left position), even above rare darkfire/spectrum.
My thought is: if the forged light and dark defense gems have a "memory" of how they were made, what if the on parry gem has a "memory" of what's been added to it?
After all, it's the only gem in the game that allows you to add more stuff to it even though you and the game know that it's not going to get any better.

I ask that someone with the gem resources to do so (and access to backups) add a maxed out version of EVERY non-rare gem (every diamond, every square, every triangle, every round, every hex, AND every weapon specific gem) into an on parry 1000 damage triangle gem.

Barring that ridiculous request, at the very least a maxed out version of every triangle gem (maxed squares lead to rare squares, maybe maxed triangles lead to rare triangles?)

EDIT: Also, what if rare defense gems forged with rare xp gems have memory of being forged that way and forging three of them together yields something different than the rare xp gem?

[Vile Majesty]

@ Sab
Yeah, I took a break for a while, but I've still been keeping up with the forums.
When I found out we hadn't discovered all the gems yet, I couldn't resist

@Stelios
Yeah, it's not a strong lead, but my thought on that was "well... they put rare in the name... so... maybe?"

@ All
Has anyone else noticed that we have found a rare gem for each non-weapon specific gem archetype except triangle?
Hex: rare xp
Diamond: rare defense
round: all of them
square: all of them plus spectrum/darkfire
triangle: nothing!

It also greatly concerns me that the on parry 1000 damage triangle gem sits at the top of the gem ladder (always occupies upper left position), even above rare darkfire/spectrum.
My thought is: if the forged light and dark defense gems have a "memory" of how they were made, what if the on parry gem has a "memory" of what's been added to it?
After all, it's the only gem in the game that allows you to add more stuff to it even though you and the game know that it's not going to get any better.

I ask that someone with the gem resources to do so (and access to backups) add a maxed out version of EVERY non-rare gem (every diamond, every square, every triangle, every round, every hex, AND every weapon specific gem) into an on parry 1000 damage triangle gem.

Barring that ridiculous request, at the very least a maxed out version of every triangle gem (maxed squares lead to rare squares, maybe maxed triangles lead to rare triangles?)

EDIT: Also, what if rare defense gems forged with rare xp gems have memory of being forged that way and forging three of them together yields something different than the rare xp gem?

Glad to see you again too, Spencer!

Interesting idea on the triangle gems (whose effects are all associated with numerical values), we haven't been paying attention to it so far. No one ever tried forging combinations such as 3 "On Parry Damage Titan 1000" gems, I guess?

[Stelios]

@ Sab
Yeah, I took a break for a while, but I've still been keeping up with the forums.
When I found out we hadn't discovered all the gems yet, I couldn't resist

@Stelios
Yeah, it's not a strong lead, but my thought on that was "well... they put rare in the name... so... maybe?"

@ All
Has anyone else noticed that we have found a rare gem for each non-weapon specific gem archetype except triangle?
Hex: rare xp
Diamond: rare defense
round: all of them
square: all of them plus spectrum/darkfire
triangle: nothing!

It also greatly concerns me that the on parry 1000 damage triangle gem sits at the top of the gem ladder (always occupies upper left position), even above rare darkfire/spectrum.
My thought is: if the forged light and dark defense gems have a "memory" of how they were made, what if the on parry gem has a "memory" of what's been added to it?
After all, it's the only gem in the game that allows you to add more stuff to it even though you and the game know that it's not going to get any better.

I ask that someone with the gem resources to do so (and access to backups) add a maxed out version of EVERY non-rare gem (every diamond, every square, every triangle, every round, every hex, AND every weapon specific gem) into an on parry 1000 damage triangle gem.

Barring that ridiculous request, at the very least a maxed out version of every triangle gem (maxed squares lead to rare squares, maybe maxed triangles lead to rare triangles?)

EDIT: Also, what if rare defense gems forged with rare xp gems have memory of being forged that way and forging three of them together yields something different than the rare xp gem?

I certainly hope the gems we're missing aren't ****ty triangle gems. xD Another thing that's probably been tried and probably won't work is store-bought light * store-bought dark * rare xp

[Soldier4Good]

I certainly hope the gems we're missing aren't ****ty triangle gems. xD Another thing that's probably been tried and probably won't work is store-bought light * store-bought dark * rare xp

I think we're getting too excited for these gems. Donald said there were 1 or 2 cool gems left. He also said the parry all gem is the best. Sooo, I have a feeling we will be disappointed by the end of this.

[Edoc'sil]

Me too. (extracharacters)

[Soldier4Good]

Imagine if it was just on parry, get (blank) health or something like that XDXD That would be very upsetting

[Stelios]

I'm calling it now - a dodge all attacks gem

[Edoc'sil]

I'm calling it now - a dodge all attacks gem

But all attacks are dodge able anyway.

[Soldier4Good]

I'm calling it now - a dodge all attacks gem

LOLOL That would be quite the troll from ChAIR XD

[ElPared]

Glad to see you again too, Spencer!

Interesting idea on the triangle gems (whose effects are all associated with numerical values), we haven't been paying attention to it so far. No one ever tried forging combinations such as 3 "On Parry Damage Titan 1000" gems, I guess?

I tried forging 3 On parry damage 1000 and it didn't work. This was back when Rare Gems first came out, which I think was the most recent update. I was sooooo excited to have infinitely upgradeable damage gems lol

[Silversabeast]

But all attacks are dodge able anyway.

I think he was joking

[Stelios]

Yes I was definitely kidding.

[SpencerTT]

Let's look at the facts for a second...
1. We are still missing two gems.
2. We have no rare triangle gems (the only one of the major archetypes) (AND the archetype with the most gems!)
3. RingSpell_Rainbow and RingSpell_Infinity exist, but have no rings that use them.
4. The only rings that can't use magic are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.
5. The only rings that can have triangle gems implanted are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.

I'm starting to think that BladeMaster's April Fool's joke isn't so far off... they're just triangle gems, not a circle gem

Combos to try with on parry 1000 (that gem just really stands out to me as odd)
a. Rare Light/Spectrum + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
b. Rare Dark/Darkfire + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
c. Rare Light + Rare Spectrum + on parry 1000
d. Rare Dark + Rare Darkfire + on parry 1000
e. Rare Light X2 + on parry 1000
f. Rare Dark X2 + on parry 1000
g. Rare Light + Rare Dark + on parry 1000 (I really want rare light and dark to be good for something...)

[Stelios]

Wow this is exciting, i certainly hope you're right, this would make the iridix and gem circle the only rings I would use.

[Blade Dancer]

Let's look at the facts for a second...
1. We are still missing two gems.
2. We have no rare triangle gems (the only one of the major archetypes) (AND the archetype with the most gems!)
3. RingSpell_Rainbow and RingSpell_Infinity exist, but have no rings that use them.
4. The only rings that can't use magic are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.
5. The only rings that can have triangle gems implanted are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.

I'm starting to think that BladeMaster's April Fool's joke isn't so far off... they're just triangle gems, not a circle gem

Combos to try with on parry 1000 (that gem just really stands out to me as odd)
a. Rare Light/Spectrum + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
b. Rare Dark/Darkfire + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
c. Rare Light + Rare Spectrum + on parry 1000
d. Rare Dark + Rare Darkfire + on parry 1000
e. Rare Light X2 + on parry 1000
f. Rare Dark X2 + on parry 1000
g. Rare Light + Rare Dark + on parry 1000 (I really want rare light and dark to be good for something...)

Yeah they say the best lies have a grain of truth in them :P I only hope the triangle gem spells exist (and that they're good spells).

Great ideas with the above recipes. I will try them all out once I forge another rare dark, rare light and the parry gem.

[Stelios]

Good luck getting the parry gems, I only see them like every 25 RB's and even then they're like damage titan 50.

[Soldier4Good]

Good luck getting the parry gems, I only see them like every 25 RB's and even then they're like damage titan 50.

*cough* gem wheels *cough*cough*

[Stelios]

I've given up on gem wheels, I swear they're rigged to taunt me into pissing away every dime I have

[Xaranoth]

I've given up on gem wheels, I swear they're rigged to taunt me into pissing away every dime I have

Gem wheels drop lots of high end triangles. Forge enough triangles together enough times and you WILL end up with a high end on parry damage gem.

[Stelios]

yeah, i forgot the re ason i hate them is because of the stupid triangle gems in the first place

[Xaranoth]

yeah, i forgot the re ason i hate them is because of the stupid triangle gems in the first place

Lol. When the update that had them first came out, and it had the five free big gem wheels, I got good gems from those first five. After that though it was almost all triangles though. Should be called "big triangle gem wheels with a ridiculously small chance of non triangle gems"

[Stelios]

Really, and whenever it isn't a triangle, its a stupid dual/light/heavy gold gem or something

[SpencerTT]

Just a thought...

As we know, the formula for a rare defense gem is forged light + forged dark + ANY hex
No matter what hex gem you use, it produces a rare defense gem, but everyone uses small, crappy hex gems because of the difference in forge time.
Looking at the OP of this thread, there is only one hex gem that sells for 500k, the 2500 Health on Magic gem, making it the most expensive one you could possibly add to the formula, and resulting in the maximum possible forge time for a rare defense gem.
What if the rare defense gem has memory, just like the forged light and dark gems. Forging three of them using 2500 health on magic hex gems and forging them together might make something completely different than the rare xp gem.

If the 2500 health on magic hex doesn't work, maybe the rare item drop +25% hex gem? or the rare xp gem?

[Stelios]

I can try the health one soon, I just need the defense gems and one more on magic get health.

[Blade Dancer]

Let's look at the facts for a second...
1. We are still missing two gems.
2. We have no rare triangle gems (the only one of the major archetypes) (AND the archetype with the most gems!)
3. RingSpell_Rainbow and RingSpell_Infinity exist, but have no rings that use them.
4. The only rings that can't use magic are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.
5. The only rings that can have triangle gems implanted are the gem, paga, and iridix rings.

I'm starting to think that BladeMaster's April Fool's joke isn't so far off... they're just triangle gems, not a circle gem

Combos to try with on parry 1000 (that gem just really stands out to me as odd)
a. Rare Light/Spectrum + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
b. Rare Dark/Darkfire + rare xp/defense + on parry 1000
c. Rare Light + Rare Spectrum + on parry 1000
d. Rare Dark + Rare Darkfire + on parry 1000
e. Rare Light X2 + on parry 1000
f. Rare Dark X2 + on parry 1000
g. Rare Light + Rare Dark + on parry 1000 (I really want rare light and dark to be good for something...)

I have attempted all but e and f with nothing to show for it. Great ideas! Please keep them coming.

[Blade Dancer]

Well something actually :P

[SpencerTT]

Well, I'm just about out of ideas, but... how bout forging the three different +525% diamond gems together?

#IJustMadeADesperatePleaForAClueFromDonaldMustard