New Master Gem + Forging List!

**Vile Majesty** · 09-19-2012, 11:41 PM

OG RB427. Spot a capped Attack+200 selling for 1 mill gold in my store.
OG RB430. Spot a capped Health+50 in store.
OG RB432. Spot a capped Shield+60 in store.

**Proph** · 09-20-2012, 07:27 PM

So to sum up...

The only super high-end gems to appear in the store are round capped gems and square capped gems. No reports of any super high-end triangles, hexagons, diamonds or light/heavy/dual-types?

What are you receiving from big gem wheels? Anything capped to report besides square capped gems and a parry all attacks gem? Any Titan Speed 80% or Combo Slash +1 pop yet?

And after each update, are there any brand new gems to report? Has anyone tried any of the previous impossible forges to see if they are now possible?

On a side note, I am now the proud owner of 101 Kurtz...I was hoping the madness would stop at 99 or 100...

**Laygh** · 09-20-2012, 07:54 PM

I got a Titan speed 80% from a big gem prize wheel

**Paul202** · 09-20-2012, 07:56 PM

I have gotten many triangle gems from the Large Wheel, in fact that is the type of gem I get 98% of the time.

**bigbadrobbo** · 09-20-2012, 09:21 PM

I've had both the Titan Speed 80% & Combo Slash +1 from the Large Gem wheel.

**Laygh** · 09-20-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by bigbadrobbo

I've had both the Titan Speed 80% & Combo Slash +1 from the Large Gem wheel.

Saaaaame here!

**Aussi3** · 09-21-2012, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by bigbadrobbo

I've had both the Titan Speed 80% & Combo Slash +1 from the Large Gem wheel.

I've had them too

**TamL** · 09-21-2012, 09:51 AM

I got a Combo Slash +1 from the big gem wheel

edit - and a Titan speed 80% from a large chest wearing the Vile set

**Eric.J** · 09-21-2012, 10:38 PM

Few things I wanted to point out in the guide, the Rare Experience Gem, it's a the hexagon gem that is listed with +1000 XP on hit, anyone can make that, it is made by forging three Rare Defense Gems together. Second both the Rare Spectrum and Rare Darkfire gems can be made into +1000 by forging three of them together same as normal square capped elemental gems.

**vwjedi04** · 09-23-2012, 01:21 AM

I am unable to forge 3 +250 attack gems together. What am I doing wrong?

**asianlitarian** · 09-23-2012, 01:26 AM

You can't. You have to forge a rare attack and two non rare >100 attacks for it to work.
http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...ur-square-gems

**SynergyGreen** · 09-23-2012, 11:06 AM

I'm a little confused here. I forged a +248 Fire Attack Gem and it's selling price is $500K. But isn't it suppose to be lower than $500k if it's not at +400? I'm trying to get a rare spectrum gem but this is confusing me right now...do I have to buy the +400 Fire Attack Gem from the store only rather than forging it?

**asianlitarian** · 09-23-2012, 11:36 AM

No, not really...
Before 1.2, the max price for selling gems was 1 million, not 500,000. Unfortunately, 1.2 made it so that the max price is now 500,000 but never "adjusted for inflation" so +200 element gems sold for 500,000, but anything above that got shunted directly to 500,000.

**Squashy** · 09-23-2012, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by SynergyGreen

I'm a little confused here. I forged a +248 Fire Attack Gem and it's selling price is $500K. But isn't it suppose to be lower than $500k if it's not at +400? I'm trying to get a rare spectrum gem but this is confusing me right now...do I have to buy the +400 Fire Attack Gem from the store only rather than forging it?

500k is the money cap, gems can reach their money caps before their stats are capped. Keep forging til you get a 400! Doesn't matter whether you buy it or forge it!

**SynergyGreen** · 09-23-2012, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Squashy

500k is the money cap, gems can reach their money caps before their stats are capped. Keep forging til you get a 400! Doesn't matter whether you buy it or forge it!

Ohh ok I see, even if it's at $500k I can keep on forging It? Thanks for the help!

**ckd0214** · 09-26-2012, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by SynergyGreen

Ohh ok I see, even if it's at $500k I can keep on forging It? Thanks for the help!

Bingo.

Does Heavy Combo Slash +1 stack? I'd guess that it does, but do we have proof? Cuz all the other heavy gems are kinda negligable, and a few heavy weapons have two heavy slots. If it does stack, I'll just put two gems in there instead of an "On Block Dmg" Gem.

Also, does dual's magic titan break +1 stack? The other dual gems really suck, and parry all is kinda cheating.

Finally, what's everyone's favorite triangle gems?

**Vile Majesty** · 09-26-2012, 05:42 PM

I tested and Heavy Combo Slash +1 do stack and so is Dual Magic Titan Break +1. The latter works like Titan Break +2 gem in terms of stacking. But I don't see any practicability in fights with 2 Heavy Combo Slash +1 stacked, but the matrix-like stunt you can pull of with such is rather cool (which requires just one Combo Slash +1 gem to work anyway)

Favourite triangles: On Hit Get 250 Health, On Parry Damage Titan 1000, On (Perfect) Block Damage Titan 1500/1000, On Combo Get 25 Shield.

**ckd0214** · 09-26-2012, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Vile Majesty

I tested and Heavy Combo Slash +1 do stack and so is Dual Magic Titan Break +1. The latter works like Titan Break +2 gem in terms of stacking. But I don't see any practicability in fights with 2 Heavy Combo Slash +1 stacked, but the matrix-like stunt you can pull of with such is rather cool (which requires just one Combo Slash +1 gem to work anyway)

Favourite triangles: On Hit Get 250 Health, On Parry Damage Titan 1000, On (Perfect) Block Damage Titan 1500/1000, On Combo Get 25 Shield.

Just trying to figure which gems to put on those two heavy gem slots weapons. Dual is the worst, because sometime I won't have a magic ring, forcing me to use parry all or some other negigable boost.

And triangles are pointless in high NGs. If it was a percent value of the stat it'd have more longetivity. I'm guessing 250 health is a drop in the bucket to lv 2k members.

EDIT: would a second combo slash +1 even do any more damage per break window, anyways?

**ElPared** · 09-26-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by ckd0214

EDIT: would a second combo slash +1 even do any more damage per break window, anyways?

I haven't tested it yet, but what I've noticed is the slashes seem to take place while your BW timer is paused (assuming you're using a Time Bound BW) so if the extra slashes actually do damage then yes, it will do more damage with 2 than with one.

**ckd0214** · 09-26-2012, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by ElPared

I haven't tested it yet, but what I've noticed is the slashes seem to take place while your BW timer is paused (assuming you're using a Time Bound BW) so if the extra slashes actually do damage then yes, it will do more damage with 2 than with one.

Cool,and thanks for the help.

And I think that if you get the first two hits in, then the slash(es) will not be interrupted by the end of the break, even if you go over the time limit. And since dodge breaks are impossible with heavy, I find myself using parry breaks more than block breaks.

**Bimasakti** · 09-28-2012, 06:44 PM

Guys,

What about perfect parry damage 5000 ?
I like to use it, but difficult for me to create perfect parry. How is the trick ?

**asianlitarian** · 09-28-2012, 07:23 PM

It's actually damage 6250. You have to align your parry PERFECTLY with the titan's strike and parry just before he hits you. Because of the second one, perfect parries are a lot harder to do with a laggy device.

**drenline** · 09-28-2012, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Bimasakti

Guys,

What about perfect parry damage 5000 ?
I like to use it, but difficult for me to create perfect parry. How is the trick ?

don't parry to soon, don't parry to late, just be just right

**Bimasakti** · 09-28-2012, 08:06 PM

Seems need to practice more

Btw, what is the difference from great parry?

**ElPared** · 09-28-2012, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bimasakti

Seems need to practice more

Btw, what is the difference from great parry?

aside from triggering Perfect Parry effects like the Stun Titan 3s gem or the Damage 6250 gem, it adds 1 hit to a Hit Bound Break Window, where a Great Parry only adds .25 hits (you need 4 of them to equal one perfect)

**Bimasakti** · 09-28-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by ElPared

aside from triggering Perfect Parry effects like the Stun Titan 3s gem or the Damage 6250 gem, it adds 1 hit to a Hit Bound Break Window, where a Great Parry only adds .25 hits (you need 4 of them to equal one perfect)

Thanks bro for the enlightment

**ckd0214** · 09-28-2012, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by ckd0214

Cool,and thanks for the help.

And I think that if you get the first two hits in, then the slash(es) will not be interrupted by the end of the break, even if you go over the time limit. And since dodge breaks are impossible with heavy, I find myself using parry breaks more than block breaks.

Well, actually if you have elemental dmg, which isn't factored into slashes, then it seems better to NOT use a slash hit, except for the last when you can get a slash in and go over your "time limit".

**ElPared** · 09-29-2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by ckd0214

Well, actually if you have elemental dmg, which isn't factored into slashes, then it seems better to NOT use a slash hit, except for the last when you can get a slash in and go over your "time limit".

ckd0214, how does it feel to be reply number 666 in this thread?

**ckd0214** · 09-29-2012, 12:17 AM

But I'm #667...

**ElPared** · 09-29-2012, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by ckd0214

But I'm #667...

yeah, but the forum counts "replies" by excluding the OP, making yours 666.

when I wrote that the reply count next to the thread said "replies: 666"

**ckd0214** · 09-29-2012, 01:24 PM

Great...when I wet my bed, it'll be your fault you know.

**Proph** · 10-15-2012, 03:12 AM

I have updated the notes to the list with the current rare caps reported by white magic (the Attack 13000) and sosocool (the rest of the rares).

Eventually, I would like to have verification of these caps by other forum members - however, I feel that could take awhile - is anyone out there close to any of these newfound caps? and if not, are there any members out there who have the gems/gold/time & patience/desire to get there?

**ckd0214** · 10-15-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Proph

I have updated the notes to the list with the current rare caps reported by white magic (the Attack 13000) and sosocool (the rest of the rares).

Eventually, I would like to have verification of these caps by other forum members - however, I feel that could take awhile - is anyone out there close to any of these newfound caps? and if not, are there any members out there who have the gems/gold/time & patience/desire to get there?

no & no, sorry.

But a eventual cap makes sense, if only for limiting the processing the game uses.

**ElPared** · 10-15-2012, 08:04 PM

the only person that insane is probably mammoth. I guess if we really want to confirm it we gotta hang around in the gem set and buy nothing but gems and gem wheels

**grantnoe** · 10-16-2012, 12:15 PM

WHOA I think this thread wins for views. 180,000.

**Proph** · 10-20-2012, 03:46 AM

Thanks grant - 182,000+ views is indeed impressive - thanks to everyone who has ever contributed and even looked to this list for information and reference purposes. If a future update should occur, I would hope that a couple new gems would be introduced to breathe some life into the list.

On a side note, I can also confirm the existence of the new money bug - I believe I was up to $2.14 billion in OG RB 804 when it hit. I was opening up the large chest before the Archivist - and upon opening the chest, I got to see my gold total get reset to zero in a matter of seconds.

I was really hoping to conduct my "2 billion big gem wheel" experiment soon too...

I don't see any point reloading an earlier save as I'll hit this new money cap sooner than later - since my buying habits within the game are minimal - as it is, I earned 1.7 billion over the last 300 rebirths...and I'll probably hit that sooner as the rebirths progress...