New Master Gem + Forging List!

[Proph]

Type - Value	OG/NG Rebirth	Chest/Forge/ Battle?	Sells at:	Credit
Round - (rare/capped)
Attack +250/200	OG	F	$500K	hirai
Health +60/50	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Magic +250/200	OG	F	$500K	hirai/Proph
Shield +75/60	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Square - (rare/capped) x10 equipped to any solar weapon
Spectrum +500	OG	F	$500K	mammoth
Darkfire +500	OG	F	$500K	mammoth
Dark +500/400	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Fire +500/400	?	F	$500K	Nafi Kacak
Ice +500/400	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Light +500/400	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Poison +500/400	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Shock +500/400	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Water +500/400	OG	F	$500K	mammoth
Wind +500/400	OG	F	$500K	mammoth
Diamond
Gem +525%	OG ?	?	$70K	daaood
Gold +400%	OG	F	$210K	Proph
Item +525%	OG 395	C (M)	$141K	Proph
Weapon +525%	OG	F	$210K	Proph
Hexagon
Gold +37%	OG 1	store	$70K	everyone
XP +125%	NG 53^23	F	$28K	Silversabeast
125 Shield on Magic	OG 411	B	$176K	Proph
Bonus Health - On Magic 2500 H	?	F	$500K	mammoth
Rare Item Drop 25%	OG 422	B - (G)	$352K	Proph
On Hit Get 1000 XP	?	F	$25K	Thunderblow
Triangle - Damage
On Block Dmg 625	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Parry Dmg 1000	OG 93	F	$500K	Sonyman7
On Perfect Block Dmg 1000	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Perfect Parry Dmg 6250	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Triangle - Health
On Block Get 375 Health	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Combo Get 250 Health	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Hit Get 250 Health	NG 32^34	F	$500K	tristantzara
On Parry Get 375 Health	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Perfect Block Get 500 Health	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Perfect Parry Get 3125 Health	OG 427	C (G)	$500K	Proph
On Scratch Get 375 Health	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Triangle - Shield
On Combo Get 25 Shield	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Triangle - Gold
On Scratch Get 125 Gold	both		$500K	everyone
Light
On Combo4 Get 125 Gold	OG 429	C (A)	$500K	Proph
On Combo5 Get 2500 Health	OG 377 NG 100^43/15^42	C (D) C (G)/C (L)	$500K	Proph NiiLoC/rioskis
Titan Speed 80%	both		$500K	everyone
Heavy
On Block Dmg 1000	?	F	$500K	mammoth
On Perfect Block Dmg 1500	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Slash Get 125 Gold	OG 351 NG 62^43	C (S) F	$500K	Proph NiiLoC
On Slash Get 1000 Health	OG 430	C (V)	$500K	Proph
On Slash Get 250 XP	OG	F	$500K	Proph
Dual
On Magic Get 1250 XP	OG 395 NG 16^42	C (G) C (L)	$500K	Proph rioskis
On Parry Get 250 XP	OG	F	$500K	Proph
On Stab Get 125 Gold	both		$500K	everyone

Honorable mention: Poison +1, rebirth 1, NG^10, $215 - Name

Rare round/square gems can be "infinitely" increased - to a point...

For rare round gems, forge 3 capped versions of the same gem - 3 Attack 200s, 3 Health 50s, 3 Magic 200s, 3 Shield 60s
For square elementals, forge 3 capped versions of the same element - 3 Dark 400s, 3 Fire 400s, etc.

Current rare caps reported as of 10/15/12 - *most still need verification*:

Attack 13000, Health 2610, Magic 6625, Shield 6450, Square Elementals 26000, Spectrum/Darkfire 64750

Gems that everyone can obtain will not be listed in the chart --

Hexagon - Titan Break +2, On Perfect Parry Stun Titan 3s

Light Block All Gem - On Combo4 Block All Attacks
Light Combo Gem - On Combo5 Continue Combo

Heavy Combo Slash Gem - Combo Slash +1

Dual Parry All Gem - Parry All Attacks
Dual Titan Break Gem - On Magic Titan Break +1

All Defense Gem - "Rainbow" Defense -- first discovered on 5/11/2012

Fire Defense + Ice Defense + Water Defense = Light Defense
Shock Defense + Poison Defense + Wind Defense = Dark Defense

Light Defense + Dark Defense + any Hexagon gem = All Defense Gem/"Rainbow" Defense

Spectrum/Darkfire square elemental gems follow a similar pattern:

Rare Fire 500 + Rare Ice 500 + Rare Water 500 = Spectrum 500
Rare Shock 500 + Rare Poison 500 + Rare Wind 500 = Darkfire 500

Chest name abbreviations: A – Archivist, D – Stone Demon, F – Free chest, G – MX-Goliath, L – Unrecorded large chest location, M – First medium chest, M2 – Second medium chest, P – Rare Prize Wheel, S – Saydhi, and V – Vault of Tears.

Original Master Gem List concept by DarthDuck

[Proph]

Hi folks - please post your new gem hits here.

I'd like to keep the original Master Gem List as is - for historical purposes.

Please note that I've attempted to keep the list as similar to the original as possible - with a couple obvious changes. Since it appears that gem value is capped at $500,000, I won't be including values unless it's different than $500K.

So when you list a new gem find or forge, please just post the type of gem & value, OG/NG & rebirth, whether you obtained it from a chest, a battle/fight or a forge and gold value if it's not $500K.

If you forged the gem and would like to share your recipe here, that's fine but I don't plan on maintaining a gem forging recipe thread at this moment.

The table is mostly blank as I would like to see what all of you have found or forged. I am rather high up in OG rebirth level so I'll wait a bit until I post what I have in my inventory.

If I have missed any gems or if you have any other questions, let me know and thanks in advance for your support!

[Proph]

Also I will not be listing gems that everyone can get! So if you have a new gem to add to this list, please let me know:

Hexagon - Titan Break +2
Hexagon - On Perfect Parry Stun Titan 3s

Light Block All Gem - On Combo4 Block All Attacks
Light Combo Gem - On Combo5 Continue Combo

Heavy Combo Slash Gem - Combo Slash +1

Dual Parry All Gem - Parry All Attacks
Dual Titan Break Gem - On Magic Titan Break +1

All Defense Gem - "Rainbow" Defense

[Ravine]

Hi Proph,

I have forged and use this for the new Rift (together with On Parry Damage Titan 998): On Block Damage Titan 990 ( Sorry I dont keep the recipe but it was forged several times from some triangle 500k gems with lots of cheap gems for like 60 years ++ in game).

I also just created Dual Gold Gem: On Stab Get 125 Gold - and I am about to throw it in the forge with some cheap gems again !!!

Sorry Proph, it was on Rebirth 126 - OG and it is a Heavy Damage Titan Gem and here is the pic of my new ultimate weapon

=====XHD

[Silversabeast]

Proph, are you darthduck? Lol jk

[Proph]

Hi Ravine -

Thanks for the info. Please let me know when you forged it - during which rebirth, OG or NG, etc. Also since Rift is a Heavy weapon, I'm assuming that the On Block Damage 990 is a Heavy Damage Titan Gem and not just a regular Combat Damage Titan Gem?

I also have that Dual Gold Gem - so let me know if there's anything higher than 125...happy forging!

[Proph]

Proph, are you darthduck? Lol jk

Hahahaha - well, you already know the answer to that...but I do thank Darth for the Master Gem List and all of that prior info...although it was a pain in the butt to transfer that info and create a new table...

[4nime]

Light Block All Gem - On Combo4 Block All Attacks

How does this gem work?

[NiiLoC]

square gem water +399, 54^20, MX-Goliath Large Chest, $500k

[Aussi3]

Nice new list Proph

[=Silver=]

Good work Proph!

I'm not sure if it's meaningful to collect standardized gem forging formulas in one long list, but I guess we could find some tendencies in the resulting bunch of empirical data. It's not fully random... maybe

[Aussi3]

I just got on combo5 get combo for light on RB 81 NG 5
and I got titan speed 90% on RB 78 NG 5

[miancajr]

I crafted a hex gem on magic get 2248 health worth $500k

[AngelicRain]

Hi ib community.

i was wondering what the highest gems other people got for the following:

(triangle) on combo xxx health - i got 200 health on combo, from the large chest before Stone deamon (OG- RB 50) - am debating whether to try and forge with similar gems to try and get better than 200 (wonder if that is possible)

(hex) xx% to rare drop - highest i've got whilst forging is 24% i think (sold it) - also, does anyone know what effect does this gem have? - only increases the chance of rare item drops in battles? or in chests as well? - and do any non traditional items like gems count as rare? I am essentially debating whether to have this, a 2096 Health on Magic (also crafted) or a titan break +2 in my armor... for now i have gone with the "on magic get 2096 health" because i'm trying out a high magic build with Diruel for fun and have some health with dark magic attack is useful.

[miancajr]

i'm trying out a high magic build with Diruel for fun and have some health with dark magic attack is useful.

I'm doing the same thing. I relied on my Ring of Man way too much (I had a +140 magic and a +109 magic which would boost me to max heath) so I decided to use the Diruel with my magic gems and craft a powerful health gem to help me out when I'm running low on juice. It has became very useful since I do a decent amount of damage plus heal myself by 2248.

[AngelicRain]

Yeah i could survive endlessly with ring of man - one cast heal, and didn't take long to regen - got a bit boring so i did the same thing and swtiched to Diruel for the time being.

On another note... anyone had this issue where gems have reduced in stats after the update? - i admittedly hadn't played for a bit before the new update, but when i got back to playing many of my stat gems had decreased significantly - for example - magic stat 157 went down to 111, and i had 5 health stat gems between 26-27, and they all became 17-18. Thankfully with the forge making new better gems will become easier - but still kinda sucks to lose all those stats on those gems.

[miancajr]

Yeah that happened to me after I updated but luckily it was only for some of my gems. None of the gems I had attached to my items were affected.

[Proph]

Hey guys -

For all of these new gem finds & forges that you're discussing, please also report where, when & how you found or made them - rebirth #, OG/NG, whether it was forged, found in a chest (& which chest), or dropped after a battle - also report value if it's not $500k.

If you remember any info on the 24% rare drop that would be helpful!

As for the stat gems converting, I didn't have any problems there but the only detriment I experienced was that all my high-end gems got devalued to $500k - I had many that were between $500k to $1mm - so that was a huge money loss!!!

[AngelicRain]

If you remember any info on the 24% rare drop that would be helpful

Hey Proph,

So far i've forged 2x 24% rare drops and 1 23% rare drop (all hex gems) - and they were done somewhere between OG RB-49 to 53 (sorry i can't be exact) - the gems i used were completely random - usually 1 of 3xx,xxx sell value and 2 others between 30,000 and 5,000 (basically any random 2 low sell value ones with 2 high sell value ones) - i don't remember the sell values of the gems but they were all in the 350,000 range i think one was 388,000 something (i ended up reforging/selling both quite quickly) - i acctually tried using one for 2 OGs, and it didn't give me anything... i know not very patient of me.

I haven't found a pattern yet to making them (and to be honest i'm not really paying attention)

So far the only thing i know for certain is that if you take any 3 gems of the exact same type and quality (i.e. all same colour/shape and +to whatever) - then you get another gem of that same type and quality - however from my experience, when that newly forged gem is of 500,000 value, and you try and forge it again with gems of the same time - the quality of the gem drops down to a lower value and stays constant.

For example: (between OG RB-49,-53 again) I took 1 attack gem with 69 to attack, then 2 others in the 50s to 30s, and i made a 167 to attack gem worth 500k. then i took that 167 to atk gem and forged with twice more with 2 other atk gems from 70s to 30s (so total of 4 gems along with original for 2 tries). BOTH times i ended up with a 150 to atk gem worth exactly 488,281 in sell value. I will confirm this result by trying to process again with 2 more atk gems and the 150 to atk gem and post later.

[Thunderblow]

Light Block All Gem - On Combo4 Block All Attacks

How does this gem work?

Gem goes on light weapon say Flak. After you do a combo left,left,right,right, you then can use your shield to block every single attack from the titans that are thrown at you, even when he attack you with his shield.

[NiiLoC]

square gem water +399, 54^20, MX-Goliath Large Chest, $500k

did you catch this one, Proph?

[Mad Lee]

I forged get 123 gold on Scratch and get 2000 hp on magic gems so far.

[Proph]

Nice new list Proph

Good work Proph!

I'm not sure if it's meaningful to collect standardized gem forging formulas in one long list, but I guess we could find some tendencies in the resulting bunch of empirical data. It's not fully random... maybe

Thanks!

And thanks Aussi3 for the gem info. I won't be listing that combo5 continue combo gem as I believe that is a standard gem that everyone can get. Now if there's a better one out there, then I'd be interested in that info. Also, I have a Titan Speed 80% - which is just slightly better and worth a bit more than your 90% one...however, this gem also seems to be one that everyone can get as well...now if someone out there has a 70%...I'd be interested in that info as well!

As far as forging formulas & recipes go, I haven't seen any patterns emerge from all of the data that's out there...but I also felt that if someone forged a high-end gem that belonged on this list and had the formula/recipe handy, then they should be able to post it here along with their new gem find/forge. There should be other players out there who may have the same or similar ingredients and may want to see if that forged gem can be re-created...

[Proph]

I forged get 123 gold on Scratch and get 2000 hp on magic gems so far.

Thanks for posting!

Let me know when you pass 125 gold on Scratch...and then I'll be able to list your gem! I have also seen a bunch of On Magic 2000 Health - so let me know when you break the 2200 barrier! Happy forging!

[Proph]

did you catch this one, Proph?

Yup...thanks for posting! As a general rule, I usually don't have time to post until the nighttime PST...

but please don't hesitate to remind me if I missed something!

[Proph]

Hey Proph,

So far i've forged 2x 24% rare drops and 1 23% rare drop (all hex gems) - and they were done somewhere between OG RB-49 to 53 (sorry i can't be exact) - the gems i used were completely random - usually 1 of 3xx,xxx sell value and 2 others between 30,000 and 5,000 (basically any random 2 low sell value ones with 2 high sell value ones) - i don't remember the sell values of the gems but they were all in the 350,000 range i think one was 388,000 something (i ended up reforging/selling both quite quickly) - i acctually tried using one for 2 OGs, and it didn't give me anything... i know not very patient of me.

I haven't found a pattern yet to making them (and to be honest i'm not really paying attention)

So far the only thing i know for certain is that if you take any 3 gems of the exact same type and quality (i.e. all same colour/shape and +to whatever) - then you get another gem of that same type and quality - however from my experience, when that newly forged gem is of 500,000 value, and you try and forge it again with gems of the same time - the quality of the gem drops down to a lower value and stays constant.

For example: (between OG RB-49,-53 again) I took 1 attack gem with 69 to attack, then 2 others in the 50s to 30s, and i made a 167 to attack gem worth 500k. then i took that 167 to atk gem and forged with twice more with 2 other atk gems from 70s to 30s (so total of 4 gems along with original for 2 tries). BOTH times i ended up with a 150 to atk gem worth exactly 488,281 in sell value. I will confirm this result by trying to process again with 2 more atk gems and the 150 to atk gem and post later.

Thanks for the info AngelicRain!

I will edit your find with the rebirth OG 50 when I have more high-end gems to list.

You may also want to post your forging theories in the Gem Crafting thread - but feel free to keep us posted here with your experiments!

[NiiLoC]

this thread should be stickied...

[Aussi3]

Yeah replace the old stickied thread

[tristantzara]

Just forged:
Titan break+2 + Titan break+1 + Titan break+1 = drop rare items +15%

OG, RB 76

[Proph]

Just forged:
Titan break+2 + Titan break+1 + Titan break+1 = drop rare items +15%

OG, RB 76

Thanks for reporting this...but if you check the first post on the new master list, you'll see that there's already a Drop Rare Items 24%. So in the future, please check the list before posting...but you may want to post your forge in the Gem Crafting thread instead...thanks!

[Proph]

I updated the list to include most of the info from the first Master Gem List.

What I've found so far is that the new cap for the Round, Square and Diamond gems is only 1 point above the pre-update caps...so for the Round gems, I'm thinking that there *could* be an Attack & Magic +200 and a Shield +60. I already have a Health +50 so let me know if you have been lucky enough to get the others.

As for the Square gems, I've been handed out +400 gems and actually forged a couple +400s but nothing higher - so again, just one point higher than some of the previous +399 caps.

As for the Diamond gems, I thought I read that someone had a Weapon +525%? as the previous caps were 524%.

On a side note with the Diamond gems, since the old Potion% gems have now been converted to Gold% gems, please let me know if you've found or forged anything higher than a Gold +399%...as my old Potion +524% (the previous record) got converted to a Gold +399%.

As you can see from the list, I'm waiting for your input on all of the Triangle gems and the new Light/Heavy/Dual gems. I've added numbers to most of the gem categories - for example, with the Dual - On Combo5 Get 2xxx health, I know that there are 2000 health gems out there already...however, I also know that there are higher caps for all of those triangle categories. So if you find a high-end gem that can fit in the 2000 category (or higher), please post that find here.

Please DO NOT report gem finds that are under the "xxxx" caps that I've placed.

I thank you in advance for your cooperation...now I just need to have some gem-finding, gem-forging players out there to start getting their names on the list!

[AngelicRain]

Thanks for the info AngelicRain!

I will edit your find with the rebirth OG 50 when I have more high-end gems to list.

You may also want to post your forging theories in the Gem Crafting thread - but feel free to keep us posted here with your experiments!

Will do tomorrow once I have read the full gem crafting thread (too tired to do so now)... But just to close the matter - I confirmed my previous theory with 2 more tries (twice 2x small atk gems with the same 150 atk gem to give the 150 atk gem again). Wasted a lot of atk gems on this, but it seems it won't budge from 150 with any atk gems lower than 150. When I find an atk gem higher than 150 again, then I'll try forging with that to see if it breaks the pattern.

[Proph]

Will do tomorrow once I have read the full gem crafting thread (too tired to do so now)... But just to close the matter - I confirmed my previous theory with 2 more tries (twice 2x small atk gems with the same 150 atk gem to give the 150 atk gem again). Wasted a lot of atk gems on this, but it seems it won't budge from 150 with any atk gems lower than 150. When I find an atk gem higher than 150 again, then I'll try forging with that to see if it breaks the pattern.

I was able to forge an Attack +163 with a reforged Health Stat +40, a Magic Stat +50 and another crappy gem I bought from the store. As I've mentioned in previous threads, I don't recommend forging three gems of the same type. Even though the Gem Forge states "Add 3 gems to forge a better new gem", we all know better...

[AngelicRain]

I was able to forge an Attack +163 with a reforged Health Stat +40, a Magic Stat +50 and another crappy gem I bought from the store. As I've mentioned in previous threads, I don't recommend forging three gems of the same type. Even though the Gem Forge states "Add 3 gems to forge a better new gem", we all know better...

well... i'm not sure about that... because originally to get the 167 atk stat gem i took something like a 111 atk stat gem + 2 small (3x and 4x) atk stat gems. So my original 167 atk stat gem (worth 500k) was a success.... BUT when i then tried forging that 167 atk stat gem with any other two small atk stat gems (ranging from 7x to 3x) - i kept getting the 150 (did this a total of 4 times with 8 other atk stat gems as mentioned in my previous replies).

Now... i did this twice with a magic stat gem just now and it had the same effect (but this was a small magic stat gem - 75 to magic) - so i'm assuming this at the very least applies to all stat + gems... and i'm guessing to all other gems as well...

moral of the story: if you forge 3 gems of the same type (1 high, 2 crappy - because 2 or 3 high seems to be not worth it - however i am tempted to forge my current 150 with a 138 and 98 to see what i get...) then you can get a potentially much higher stat gem of the same type... However if this higher stat gem is higher than a certain cap (which seems to be 150 for atk stat gems), then any subsequent attempts at forging that same gem with gems like it will only result in you getting the gem at the capped value. At least this is what i am inclined to believe for now... I will try the same thing with another gem type shortly once i collect enough gems of that type to confirm this with other gem types.

[Proph]

well... i'm not sure about that... because originally to get the 167 atk stat gem i took something like a 111 atk stat gem + 2 small (3x and 4x) atk stat gems. So my original 167 atk stat gem (worth 500k) was a success.... BUT when i then tried forging that 167 atk stat gem with any other two small atk stat gems (ranging from 7x to 3x) - i kept getting the 150 (did this a total of 4 times with 8 other atk stat gems as mentioned in my previous replies).

Now... i did this twice with a magic stat gem just now and it had the same effect (but this was a small magic stat gem - 75 to magic) - so i'm assuming this at the very least applies to all stat + gems... and i'm guessing to all other gems as well...

moral of the story: if you forge 3 gems of the same type (1 high, 2 crappy - because 2 or 3 high seems to be not worth it - however i am tempted to forge my current 150 with a 138 and 98 to see what i get...) then you can get a potentially much higher stat gem of the same type... However if this higher stat gem is higher than a certain cap (which seems to be 150 for atk stat gems), then any subsequent attempts at forging that same gem with gems like it will only result in you getting the gem at the capped value. At least this is what i am inclined to believe for now... I will try the same thing with another gem type shortly once i collect enough gems of that type to confirm this with other gem types.

Here are my two examples to in support of your theory - DO NOT forge 3 high gems of the same type:

1. I tried forging 3 Attack +100 Gems -- I got an Attack +132 out of it. So net loss of approximately $800K (including forge cost)

2. I tried an experiment with 3 of my high-end combat triangles - on perfect parry get 2841 health, get 2860 health, and get 2890 health -- in return, that combo forged an on perfect parry get 2812 health! -- Net loss of $1.24 million gold (including forge cost)

My problem is...with my high rebirth, the only crappy gems I can get are the ones from the store. The ones I get from fights are I'd guess medium to high-end gems. Plus all of the gems on my weapons, equipment and inventory are all high-end (before update, valued between $500K-$1mm each).

So...to sum up, I guess it depends on your definition of "success". In my two cases, there was no success as I received an inferior gem in return and lost a lot of money. Your Attack +150 gem getting stuck at that value can almost be seen as a parallel story to the multiple reforgings to create a Combat Damage Titan Gem - On Parry Damage 999 gem -- as that took multiple reforgings for me (but that's another long drawn out story).

[AngelicRain]

Here are my two examples to in support of your theory - DO NOT forge 3 high gems of the same type:

1. I tried forging 3 Attack +100 Gems -- I got an Attack +132 out of it. So net loss of approximately $800K (including forge cost)

2. I tried an experiment with 3 of my high-end combat triangles - on perfect parry get 2841 health, get 2860 health, and get 2890 health -- in return, that combo forged an on perfect parry get 2812 health! -- Net loss of $1.24 million gold (including forge cost)

My problem is...with my high rebirth, the only crappy gems I can get are the ones from the store. The ones I get from fights are I'd guess medium to high-end gems. Plus all of the gems on my weapons, equipment and inventory are all high-end (before update, valued between $500K-$1mm each).

So...to sum up, I guess it depends on your definition of "success". In my two cases, there was no success as I received an inferior gem in return and lost a lot of money. Your Attack +150 gem getting stuck at that value can almost be seen as a parallel story to the multiple reforgings to create a Combat Damage Titan Gem - On Parry Damage 999 gem -- as that took multiple reforgings for me (but that's another long drawn out story).

Yep - by success I meant in relative terms: and unlike your examples which you 3 high stat gems - I have only been using 1 high stat and 2 med to crappy stat. I would agree that using 3 high stat is a waste. Also yeah... I generally agree that forging gems of different stats and shapes is a much better idea - I just made a on scratch 366 health (triangle) from 3 completely random gems (one 200k value and 2 crappy)

Also - just got another 24% rare drop hex gem from large chest at stone demon (OG RB-56) sell value: 351,152

[NiiLoC]

do multiple people have the titan 80% speed gem? I haven't run across this one yet...

[Aussi3]

Yeah i just got another one of those

[Thunderblow]

Yeah i just got another one of those

Cool!
Aussi3, Do you remember which gems you used?

[Sonyman7]

I found an extremely Fast money making tip:

Step 1. Let Raidiar kill you.

Step 2. You get a new store filled with new shiny gems. Buy all gems, and forge till you get one worth $500,000.00

Step 3. Kill 3 titans, then let Radiar kill you again.

Step 4. Go back to step 2.

I've made at least 500,000 per cycle.

* just make sure you forge gems of different values. High/ medium/ low

For example: forge a 25k with 8k and a 2 k
Or forge a 100k with a 50 k and 7 k
Always maintain high/ Med / low