View Poll Results: Should Onyx Guard Decoy have the abiloty to use a rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viperousamoeba View Post
    Nice job Dizzy. Even tho we didn't agree on ever point and I voted no. I think a decoy should be a decoy. I applaud you and this thread. You did a great job keeping it on topic and kept the conversation moving forward.

    I hope Epic can find a nice middle ground and keep us all happy ( never happen someone always complains ).

    Just pleas Epic if changes are made DON"T and I repeat Don't let the decoy anywhere near a smoke grenade. lol

    Anyway nice thread Dizzy.
    Thanks. Believe me, you're input was very appreciated. I'm also very glad the thread wasn't derailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viperousamoeba View Post
    I think a decoy should be a decoy.
    A compromise would be to at least give the Onyx Guard better A.I.. Maybe a simple little change like he resets back to the location from where he was upgraded from at the end of the wave, or he doesn't leave the boundaries of the command post that he was built near. The reason people want to give him a rifle is because a Gnasher is counter productive to the role of a decoy. What good is a decoy if he's just running straight into his death. Wouldn't the decoy stay back, and hold aggro from afar. You're right that a decoy should be a decoy, but an Onyx Guard with a Gnasher is not a decoy.

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    Alright everyone, I have sent the link to Quinn and Pete. If you are following either one of them feel free to go check out the tweet. Hopefully we can get a response. Thanks everyone and if you fully agree or if you are voicing an objection continue to bump this thread. All input is appreciated.

    Also, if you are on twitter and would like to share this link with someone other than Quinn or Pete feel free to do so. It would most likely help the cause greatly.
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    Good luck!

    Other ideas have had much greater support with not even a response. Hopefully you don't get ignored too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinmad4it View Post
    Good luck!

    Other ideas have had much greater support with not even a response. Hopefully you don't get ignored too.
    I'll just keep bumping the thread and keep in view. If we don't get a response by next Friday I'll try asking them again. Hopefully they can at least give us a quick yes, no or not sure response.
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    If they can't give them a rifle, then at least make Onny able to respawn after dying. There is no incentive to purchase a 10,000$ Onyx Guard when he can die in one wave then being forced to chork over another 10 grand. Putting that much money into Onny should make him a full-fledged member of the team, meaning if he dies in a wave he can respawn when it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandut View Post
    If they can't give them a rifle, then at least make Onny able to respawn after dying. There is no incentive to purchase a 10,000$ Onyx Guard when he can die in one wave then being forced to chork over another 10 grand. Putting that much money into Onny should make him a full-fledged member of the team, meaning if he dies in a wave he can respawn when it's over.
    I agree that he should RESPAWN next wave, but only if we pay a repair cost. Make it like every other fortification, if it gets destroyed, pay to repair it for next round.
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    It's been a couple days with no response from Pete or Quinn. I'm guessing it's because it's a weekend though. Bump for more views and votes.
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    I wish that there was a another upgrade option for the bot that let it use any weapon that you buy for it.

    Example:
    Gnasher: Free(Bot's starting weapon)
    Lancer: $500
    Retro: $500
    Hammerburst: $500
    Boomshot: $1,250
    Torque bow: $1,250
    and so on . . .

    Also instead of the bot running around I think it should stay near you in a 15 or 20 foot radius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyRules View Post
    It's been a couple days with no response from Pete or Quinn. I'm guessing it's because it's a weekend though. Bump for more views and votes.
    Dude I hope u do get a response.
    I kinda feel like they're just gonna ignore this but hopefully the next TU will fix this.
    10gz is way too much for derpy mcdurp durp.
    Either boost his Ai or make him cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tootybananas View Post
    Dude I hope u do get a response.
    I kinda feel like they're just gonna ignore this but hopefully the next TU will fix this.
    10gz is way too much for derpy mcdurp durp.
    Either boost his Ai or make him cheaper.
    I'll keep trying and contacting them on Twitter. Thanks for the support.
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    i would say give him beast onyx guard AI,because even in normal beast onyx guard are pain in the ass,even more than COG heroes.Also rifle.Give him rifle and beast onyx guard AI,then he would be useful.
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    If you don't get a responce do you think it would be a good or a bad idea if lots of us tweeted them just in case they missed your tweet?

    Don't really want to spam and anger them but it just sucks that what I think (don't know for sure) would be such an easy improvement might get ignored for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousTom View Post
    If you don't get a responce do you think it would be a good or a bad idea if lots of us tweeted them just in case they missed your tweet?

    Don't really want to spam and anger them but it just sucks that what I think (don't know for sure) would be such an easy improvement might get ignored for no reason.
    Sounds like a good idea
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    I remember playing Horde(private)with my friends and we bought alot of Onyx Guards(on sandbar, with millions of Decoys) and one would follow one of my friends and I would be with the rest.

    Of course the onyx guards should also be able to operate Turrets and Silverbacks when no one uses them, Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousTom View Post
    If you don't get a responce do you think it would be a good or a bad idea if lots of us tweeted them just in case they missed your tweet?

    Don't really want to spam and anger them but it just sucks that what I think (don't know for sure) would be such an easy improvement might get ignored for no reason.
    If you like the idea and support the thread then I don't see why not. I also don't want to spam them, but an answer would be appreciated. If you do get a response then please post it here and share the info. I would add it to the OP, whether the response is good or bad.
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    I had a guy build a onyx guard on wave 9 and it died almost straight away. Money not well spent.
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    Still no reply, bump bump
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    Definitely need a change of weapon.
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    Yeah, it's pointless to spend all that cash on him when he plays super stupid. Yeah, go beast on Boomers and Grinders on Insane. He dies instantly.

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    Onyx Guard just derps around the map for me.

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    Another bump here. Still have not received a reply, but I will keep trying.
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    I really hope they are going to change this.

    Giving him more weapons, Making him a wingman AI to the player that bought him and have the ability to repair him would be fantastic.

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    I think they gave him a shotgun cause he would be too good with the rifle.
    I have a shotgun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Pie 7056 View Post
    I think they gave him a shotgun cause he would be too good with the rifle.
    He costs 10000. He should be too good.

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    Bump bump bump
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    Bump!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Dolan View Post
    He costs 10000. He should be too good.
    5000 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Pie 7056 View Post
    5000 .
    Well to be fair you have to build him from scratch every time. So when he dies its 500+1000+1500+2000+5000= 10000. It does cost 10000 for him because he cannot be repaired or rebuilt. If anyone plays insane horde, which I and many others do, he is practically useless. Considering it costs 2500 more to get a silverback. The silverback can destroy wave after wave of enemies and can be rebuilt. The decoy right before the Onyx guard has explosives and can blow up many enemies in one shot and in many ways is a better investment.

    I know there's a few people here that do not see that the Onyx guard needs a change, but the poll speaks for itself. I'm just hoping for a reply from Quinn or Pete.
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    Bump. Still no reply from Pete or Quinn, but I will try again next week.
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    Nah, he's just a decoy.

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    I sent another tweet to Pete. Got the urge after reading a recent thread that agreed with the AI.
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    So did they ever respond to this great idea?

    I know its unlikely due to GOWJ but im hoping someone out there in epic has it in there hearts to take three seconds out of there day and simply lower the price of decoys and improve Horde forever! No rifles or any of the other good ideas simply a price change would work wonders making this cool feature actually usable and I repeat it will take no effort really easy fix Dont ignore the fans !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousTom View Post
    So did they ever respond to this great idea?

    I know its unlikely due to GOWJ but im hoping someone out there in epic has it in there hearts to take three seconds out of there day and simply lower the price of decoys and improve Horde forever! No rifles or any of the other good ideas simply a price change would work wonders making this cool feature actually usable and I repeat it will take no effort really easy fix Dont ignore the fans !!!
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    Onyx Guard seemed to have left his rifle at his House next to the Empty Bottles of Beer and Vodka and a Half Eaten Sandvich.
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    The decoys do seem quite useless atm lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EXTREME NOOBHUNTER View Post
    The decoys do seem quite useless atm lol
    If there is one universal accepted change to the Onyx guard in this thread its that he should be able to be repaired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyRules View Post
    If there is one universal accepted change to the Onyx guard in this thread its that he should be able to be repaired.
    He can...

    just not during a wave

    or if he's killed

    But yeah, he should be able to be "revived" if he gets killed
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    Forget the rifle, give him a boom shot and hammer of dawn. With that he would be just under half as useful as the silverback


 
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