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    Default Explanation of the Lambent Hemi-parasite.

    The lambent parasite has only begun its lifecycle!
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    Imulsion is a parasitic fungus that feeds of the life of everything, locust humans and maybe even something else!!!.
    A Hemi-parasite is a plant that is parasitic under natural conditions and is also photosynthetic to some degree. Hemiparasites obtain water, CARBON and nutrients from their host. Many obtain at least part of their organic nutrients such as proteins from the host as well.
    Things are about to get far worse for planet Sera!!!
    These are Adam Fenix's exact notes found in the last act of the game.
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    {At the time of its discovery, there was no reason to believe that Imulsion was a living organism. It exhibited no observable characteristics typical of life; no response to stimuli, no apparent method of reproduction, and no metablolic process. It has since become clear that this is not the case.
    Though our examinations were sound, the assumptions upon which they were based-our narrow definitions of life-were not. It is very definitely alive, mutagenic, and highly invasive.
    Viewed in the light, Imulsion exhibits characteristics that resemble the structure and life cycle of many fungi. The bulk of the organism-in liquid form-is underground like a mycelium. The evidence of its existence that we have begun to observe on the surface in the form of stalks is the equivalent of fruiting bodies. Its periodic vapor-like emissions are perhaps best likened to spores. Its behavior is parasitic yet simultaneously viral; It not only colonizes its host, it also reproduces in the host at the cellular level. Its life cycle appears to be a long period of dormancy followed by accelerated activity before maturation, but I cannot establish whether it has existed on Sera since the first origins of life or if it somehow developed or was introduced during human history.
    A successful parasite does not kill its host, Imulsion does. It may be inept, but I suspect the death of its host organisms-which appears to be every living thing on Sera, plant or animal-is part of its reproductive strategy, not an unfortunate side effect. Its high-energy content may be part of that.} End note.

    Now for people who do not know alot about parasites.

    There are many types of parasites, and each one has variations to its life cycle. There are, however, similarities among the life cycles of all parasites. The one thing that all parasites have in common is that they are opportunistic organisms that live off the blood of other living organisms. Parasites are dangerous for two reasons. The first is that they can infiltrate the host to the point of consuming all of the body's food, clogging vessels or organs and killing the host, and the other is that they can pass deadly diseases to host organisms.

    Parasites evolve in response to the defense mechanisms of their hosts. As a result of host defenses, some parasites evolve differently in different hosts, specializing to the point where they can only reach the peak of their lifecycle is a certain host. Such narrow host specificity can be costly over evolutionary time, however, if the host species becomes extinct the parasite will try to find a new host to evolve in. In some cases if a parasite finds the right host, it will evolve faster, and the lifecycle becomes more unpredictable, in some rare cases if the parasite finds the proper host, the host will be completely taken over and the parasite would then start its reproduction state.

    Now for those who don't know much about Botany or parasitic fungi....

    A haustorium is the appendage or portion of a parasitic fungi or of the root of a parasitic plant that penetrates the host's tissue and draws nutrients from it. Haustoria do not, and can not penetrate the host's inner cell structure Haustoria take several forms. Generally, on penetration, the fungus increases the surface area and thus releasing enzymes that break down the cell wall, enabling a faster way for movement of organic carbon from the host to fungus. A thickened, electron-dense collar of material is deposited around the hypha at the point of invagination. Further, the host wall becomes highly modified in the invaginated zone. Inclusions normally present in plasma membrane are absent, and the outer layer contains more polysaccharide. The wall of both partners is severely reduced. The host supplies organic Carbon to the fungus, and the metabolic activity within the complex is considerably greater than outside. Carbon from the host is absorbed by the fungus.The host plant appears to be functioning according to signals from the fungus and the complex appears to be under the control of the invader. *Taken From Wiki*

    *heres my analyzation to this* I Believe that the Imulson, uses drones, humans, and other creatures to absorb their energy and carbon. And once it uses the host and gets what it needs from it, it self destructs and leaves behind a pool of Imulsion "spores" while the rest of the imulsion *which now has carbon and nutrients in it* goes back underground so it can complete its lifecycle with the Carbon and Energy it gathered from its host.


    locust and humans are the carrier, the lambent use an "organic" root system to spawn which is the stalks, I believe lambent can only hit their peak on the surface of sera where plants absorb energy from the sun, the lambent parasite is an opportunistic parasite, they will cling on and infect any life form, humans, locust and ***plants***. The parasite's reproductive system is a very complex system which Adam fenix stated, that when the lambent explode, or imulsion pours from their body it's part of an efficient energy saving system, the host body is destroyed while the imulsion is left unharmed, that is why I truly do believe the end of gears of war could of sparked a whole new generation of lambent. The locust are all dead and the imulsion leaked from all the dead hosts at the end of gears 3, rather then killing the parasite I believe the countermeasure only made things worse, all that imulsion had to go somewhere.
    And one more thing about all that imulsion leaking from everything at the end of the game, all the lambent shown dying was on the surface, we did not see anything from the "core" of the planet die, which is where the lambent parasite is in large colonies. When I say colonies I talk about the vast underground rivers of imulsion.
    ONE MORE THING......
    Cliffy B was asked this
    Q: Do you think you’re now forever linked with Gears? Are you getting bored of Marcus?
    A: Not at all. Plus I might be working on things you might not hear about for years.

    Possibly letting the lambent mature? That would be a great idea... anya said they had a tomorrow, but like marcus said In the gears 2 trailer, it never ends.

    AND Mrs. Karen Traviss was asked this,
    Think about what she says in the end.
    Q: How different is writing a Gears’ script to a normal novel? A: You have to realise that you can’t control the pacing, can’t control what the player sees and hears. And what you’re doing is not TV, but steering someone through a game, punctuated by drama that will keep them interested. Also, because most gamers play through Gears in several sittings we need to repeat things. Not just to remind them about current objectives, but also: ‘this is what happened in the first and second game’. It’s a challenge!



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    Nobody takes the time to read a good explanation anymore do they?

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    interesting

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    Thx man, I hope you read it all cause if you didn't you should because this is a really really important topic you may not know why but I believe I do.

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    I'm not sure where you're going with this but I liked it. Good read, hope the dirty little secrets saga reveals more things and that the book expands on locust and lambent origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    Nobody takes the time to read a good explanation anymore do they?
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    We have many brilliant minds on the forums. What we need are:

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    very interesting. nice find.
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    So the lambent parasite and imulsion are different things? I though they were the same.
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    They are, the imulsion is the parasite. Remember in gears 2 when it crawled up the wall?

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    NFI you are amazing! Always finding things that should be corrected!

    Otherwise I would have supported this thread, but plagrisim in plagrisim.
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    I gave proper credit where credit id due, I now posted that it was taken from ehow. But do you really think anyone would just want to look up the lifecycle of a parasite just to understand gears of war 3 better, no thats why I put it in the thread .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    I gave proper credit where credit id due, I now posted that it was taken from ehow. But do you really think anyone would just want to look up the lifecycle of a parasite just to understand gears of war 3 better, no thats why I put it in the thread .
    I am going to message you a few better sites for you to dig into to help with your theory, if you plan to expand upon it, that is also more accurate than the information found at that site. There are a few issues with the information there.

    I have a educational and professional background in the biological science (and as such parasitology), as I teach it as well so I have a few good resources that really break it down nicely. Check your pms tomorrow afternoon. If you dont wish to use it, then dont, no problem.
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    Tell me everything you know about parasites lets start at that. I'm 17 and I would blow your mind if you knew the full story on this thread, the other thread in my signature and the other thread I will make myself in a few days, This thread was only to post info about parasites to back up the info about my other two threads. So please inform me more about Parasites, everything you know throw it all down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    Tell me everything you know about parasites lets start at that. I'm 17 and I would blow your mind if you knew the full story on this thread, the other thread in my signature and the other thread I will make myself in a few days, This thread was only to post info about parasites to back up the info about my other two threads. So please inform me more about Parasites, everything you know throw it all down.
    I am not in the buisness of challenging peoples theories. I just enjoy reading them, but when the material is relevant to me I like it to be accurate too ! Ill drop you a line some time this week. By the way, I am a Pittsburgher as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFI View Post
    I am going to message you a few better sites for you to dig into to help with your theory, if you plan to expand upon it, that is also more accurate than the information found at that site. There are a few issues with the information there.

    I have a educational and professional background in the biological science (and as such parasitology), as I teach it as well so I have a few good resources that really break it down nicely. Check your pms tomorrow afternoon. If you dont wish to use it, then dont, no problem.
    No man ill use it you know how to solve practical problems, like fixing gears of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFI View Post
    I am not in the buisness of challenging peoples theories. I just enjoy reading them, but when the material is relevant to me I like it to be accurate too ! Ill drop you a line some time this week. By the way, I am a Pittsburgher as well!
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    I would like to apologize for me not giving credit to ehow in my post when it was first posted, without proper format, and giving credit where credit was do I plagiarized a post, my sincere apologies to the fourms for plagerizing. But now that there is proper credit where it's needed it's no longer plagiarizing, i am sincerely sorry epic forums for not correcting it from the beggining.

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    While you posted accurate information, I do not believe human infection was the peak of their life-cycle. I believe the idea was that the Lambent's Peak life-cycle would be the creation of it's own life-form. It could make it's own bodies, rather than merely infect others.
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    How could a parasite take its own form, do you realize how small a parasite is?
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    The only thing that confuses me still is why did we only see the lambent on the surface of sera die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    No humans are not their peak, locust and humans are the carrier, the lambent use an "organic" root system to spawn which is the stalks, I believe lambent can only hit their peak on the surface of sera where plants absorb energy from the sun, the lambent parasite is a parasite is an opportunistic parasite, they will cling on and infect any life form, humans, locust and plants. The parasite's reproductive system is a very complex system which Adam fenix stated, that when the lambent explode, or imulsion pours from their body it's part of an officient energy saving system, the host body is destroyed while the imulsion is left unharmed, that is why I truly do believe the end of gears of war could of sparked a whole new generation of lambent. The locust are all dead and the imulsion leaked from all the dead hosts at the end of gears 3, rather then killing the parasite I believe the countermeasure only made things worse, all that imulsion had to go somewhere.
    You said at the top that the Lambent's true peak is host in Humans.

    I stated that Humans are not the peak, but rather a stepping stone to them becoming their OWN life-form.
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    It jumped from locust to humans to reach their true host, plants. It jumped the species barrier once, it will happen again just wait you will see and here's a question, how can a liquid such as imulsion take on it's own form. Last time I checked parasites need a host to complete their lifecycle. So you saying the lambent taking forms of their own would be irreverent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    It jumped from locust to humans to reach their true host, plants. It jumped the species barrier once, it will happen again just wait you will see and here's a question, how can a liquid such as imulsion take on it's own form. Last time I checked parasites need a host to complete their lifecycle. So you saying the lambent taking forms of their own would be irreverent.
    not if they were evolving. We are talking about parasites that have the ability to take over a sentient life-form. They literally control the body. This is seen in other microscopic organisms and very small and non-complex insects. The ability to take over a large and complex organism is left to the realm of science fiction (which this is) so the ability to move out of a host body and survive as it's own life form is not farfetched.
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    No dur, that's what imulsion does, it just sits there in large pools, it can survive without a host, but with a host it jumps on it and takes advantage of it. If you want to keep going on about this I can give you a website that fully explains how parasites live their lifecycle, if you really want to keep going on about this. Taking over a larger and more complex organism is what every parasite does, please learn before you go saying stuff that is completely off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    No dur, that's what imulsion does, it just sits there in large pools, it can survive without a host, but with a host it jumps on it and takes advantage of it. If you want to keep going on about this I can give you a website that fully explains how parasites live their lifecycle, if you really want to keep going on about this. Taking over a larger and more complex organism is what every parasite does, please learn before you go saying stuff that is completely off.
    Oh yes please tell me what parasite takes over HUMAN BEINGS.

    This is science fiction. I am well aware of what Parasites do. We are getting into the realm of "does not exist" guy. Plants are not the final goal of the lambent. Neither are humans.

    I'm talking a life form built entirely out of parasites. Think Hunters in Halo. A mass of separate organisms combined to from their own body. Not just a zombie effect.
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    I could make a huge list of parasites that take over human beings, but instead I won't because I know there's 1000's of parasites that do, depending on what you mean by take over, all parasites take over their host, and how could a liquid take it's own form? I know the game is science fiction but still, gears makes more sense scientifically then most games, now instead of turning this thread into one big argument let's talk about Adam fenix's note, go read it. It's on the first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    I could make a huge list of parasites that take over human beings, but instead I won't because I know there's 1000's of parasites that do, depending on what you mean by take over, all parasites take over their host, and how could a liquid take it's own form? I know the game is science fiction but still, gears makes more sense scientifically then most games, now instead of turning this thread into one big argument let's talk about Adam fenix's note, go read it. It's on the first post.
    You've completely missed everything I've said. Have fun with your theory.
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    Thanks bro I plan on making it into a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    They are, the imulsion is the parasite. Remember in gears 2 when it crawled up the wall?
    OH, nevermind. When I read "A successful parasite does not kill its host, Imulsion does" I though you were suggesting that Imulsion was not a parasite. Now I see you meant that it is a parasite, just not a very good one because it kills the host.

    Would rustlung then be just a precursor to full fledged lambency, or is it just an infection that would kill the host and not cause mutation?
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    Nah, the lambent are just evil daemons sent from hell to destroy all life!
    Just taking a sound view on life here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_suicide_fox View Post
    OH, nevermind. When I read "A successful parasite does not kill its host, Imulsion does" I though you were suggesting that Imulsion was not a parasite. Now I see you meant that it is a parasite, just not a very good one because it kills the host.

    Would rustlung then be just a precursor to full fledged lambency, or is it just an infection that would kill the host and not cause mutation?
    rustlung is the side effect of inhailing to much imulsion fumes, but yes it is a precursor, If epic games looked into the idea of the lambent hitting their peak THEY WOULD MAKE THEIR GAME 100X BETTER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InFlamesWeTrust View Post
    Nah, the lambent are just evil daemons sent from hell to destroy all life!
    Just taking a sound view on life here!
    the lambent's main purpose is to gather energy, kill everything, and then repopulate, and in which Planet sera will not be the only planet they try to reach out to.

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    How often are you allowed to bump your thread by posting a new reply? I don't want to be flagged for something i didnt know i was doing wrong.

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    What do you guys think of the lambent reaching the peak of their lifecycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtxmfenix View Post
    How often are you allowed to bump your thread by posting a new reply? I don't want to be flagged for something i didnt know i was doing wrong.
    If you bump it too much, it may get Locked, meaning it can no longer be bumped so it cannot be the only thing on the front page. If you add new info (like I do with my Extended Campaign DLC Idea), then it isn't going to be frowned upon, because you have legitimately added new content to the thread.
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