Epic please Fix The Ink!!

[Master Roshi]

Interesting, there goes that "I" again, while YOU may not use it for a cheap kill, many out there do, that's one of the reasons why this thread was started in the first place. The stun is unnecessary and a two piece type of cheap kill.

I never see it used as a means of a cheap kill and if I do die from it I know it's because I made a mistake and had it coming, or they used it efficiently and outplayed me. I die from the Ink as well from time to time but when it does happen, I don't come on the forums complaining about it asking Epic to change it because it's a weapon that causes my death. No, I deal with it.

Hmmm, seems like you can't try to get your point across with out insults, just because people don't like they way it is now does not make them incompetent. Get over trying to insult people.

You have the insults coming to you if you act this way over a pick-up weapon.

There's that "I" mentality with a insult to end the post. Gears 2 ink were not useless, (I could quote your insult as well and insert it here, but I won't) but if you are a long wolf type of player and all you think about is you; then I can understand your rational, even if it has no reasoning or logic behind it.

"I" mentality? I don't see it here.

To quote what I said before,

Quit the QQ and get on with the pewpew.

[xIRONx]

Does anybody remember what happened in Gears 2 KOTH when a team would be trying to capture the hill and then somebody from the other team throws an ink? The other team swarms because of the large radius and increased potential to kill them.

Now lets say there is a full team or 2+ people trying to capture the circle in Gears 3. Even the most well tossed ink grenade will stun and do little damage. Even if you keep shooting them from afar / close distance the chances are that they will still remain alive and end up conquering the circle.

The ink grenade has lost it's tactical defensive appeal and this is just one example. The lowered radius, stun, and damage is merely a way just to grab a quick kill.

[HeLLz YeaH]

I would personally want to keep the stun, but change it so you can you move (like you can with the smoke grenade). However the ink cloud itself sucks and needs to return to its gears 2 state.

[AJ Crawford]

1. Smoke is of no concern. Sure, it stuns, but each team spawns with 5 (or 4 if it's a 4v4 gametype).

It's more of a concern than Ink when you're talking about securing power weapons, which you were. Most people head straight for the power weapons and use their smokes in an attempt to gain control, whereas very few people use G3 Ink for anything other than a quick kill. There are a couple of exceptions, Academy, for example.

2. I use Ink to secure a power weapon or position. I don't ever use it as a means of scoring a "cheap kill" and more often than not my ink secures a teammates kill and us the proper positioning. I also play Execution and never play TDM or KOTH. Maybe your experiences differ if you play those.

That's you. In the grand scheme of things it's used by 90% of the population for nothing more than a quick stun and kill, because that's all it's really good for. I play all game types and no matter where I go the use of the Ink remains the same for the vast majority of players I encounter.

3. I wasn't speaking specifically to the person I quoted with the whole of that text (I even said so in parenthesis if you cared to read the whole thing).

4. I added the fourth part because I assumed a lot of you were having problems with the Ink because you were too incompetent to understand how to avoid or properly use it to gain advantage. The quote below this only further secures my opinion of such and your post did not do much to falter my positioning.

Read through the thread and you'll see that most people posting anything worth reading aren't complaining about the G3 Ink being hard to avoid or OP or anything like that - yes, some of them are complaining about the stun, but that's because it's almost as inconsistent as the mantle kick - they're complaining because Epic changed a grenade for no reason and made it inferior.

In Gears 2 Inks were more useless than the Gears 1 smoke grenade.

I couldn't disagree more. The larger AOE made the much more useful when playing King of the Hill, a well place tag in Guardian was perfect for damaging someone enough for you to hit an easy down (without them needing to be held in place) and in general they were great if you used them at the right time to either kill or assist on groups of enemies.

I never see it used as a means of a cheap kill

Then you're either incredibly lucky or playing with your eyes closed.

[Master Roshi]

"Read through the thread and you'll see that most people posting anything worth reading aren't complaining about the G3 Ink being hard to avoid or OP or anything like that - yes, some of them are complaining about the stun, but that's because it's almost as inconsistent as the mantle kick - they're complaining because Epic changed a grenade for no reason and made it inferior."

Inferior? No, people are complaining because it's different. It certainly isn't inferior to the Gears 2 Ink.

As for the rest, I'm done arguing. There are better things to complain about in Gears 3 than the Ink and I'm generally very disappointed with the community in complaining over the Ink in the first place.

[CGOWAddict]

Read through the thread and you'll see that most people posting anything worth reading aren't complaining about the G3 Ink being hard to avoid or OP or anything like that - yes, some of them are complaining about the stun, but that's because it's almost as inconsistent as the mantle kick - they're complaining because Epic changed a grenade for no reason and made it inferior.

Inferior? No, people are complaining because it's different. It certainly isn't inferior to the Gears 2 Ink.

As for the rest, I'm done arguing. There are better things to complain about in Gears 3 than the Ink and I'm generally very disappointed with the community in complaining over the Ink in the first place.

Yes it's different, but that didn't make it better or more useful besides getting a easy kill. I like to use my skill (or lack of some days ) and work for my kills, but this ink is for people who want a easy kill. Your trying to defend something that really has no defense, it was poorly thought out and executed. Graphic wise the ink looks amazing, but the mechanics were not thought out well. I'm sure if Epic made it that you had to melee everybody to get a kill you'd be o.k. with it and not Q,Q and just pew,pew.

As for the rest, no one was arguing but you it seems, we just have a very different point of view on this particular subject....nothing more.