Stats for nerfs and buffs need to be changed

[uzi-goes-nanas]

*I'm tired of epic continuing to buff the rifles based on statistics of kill and deaths with one of the starting weapons out but i dont think that cuts it because it doesnt show what gun got the down to that would so a better overall stat on what gun is being used more/less which in turn would show a different story with what need buff/nerfs.

*now you may be asking why will there are times "a lot of times" people will down someone with a lancer or whatever and finish the kill with the gnasher i do it almost ever time down someone with whatever gun I had out ill finish with my gnasher.

*so with that said the stats based on kills with a weapon and deaths with a weapon out isn't cutting it to make this game better because those stats just dont add up unless you add the what weapon caused the down and/or what weapon did more damage before the kill "which would probably be to much work but whatever".

*now do i want a gnasher/saw-off happy game no but do i want a even balance where certain gun are better for certain situations like for example lancer for long/mid, retro mid/close <--"but not blindfiring but hard aiming" hammer long/mid my well balanced rifles would be strongest to weakest Hammerburst, Retro, Lancer and stopping power from most to least Lancer, retro "but to have about as much as the hammerburst has", then hammerburst "but little to no stopping power at all".

*for the shotties, the Gnasher i would make it stronger ""but only a pinch stronger" but i would shorten the range and make the bullet spread wider. for the saw-off all i would do is shrink the spread because getting gibbed while pretty much behind someone is ridiculous.

*just my thoughts tell me what you think thanks for the read

[bscalimero3]

Basically I think the Starting Weapons are all fine BUT:

-Rapid Fire Pads are a Problem with Hammerburst and Snub. They have to figure out a way to detect and determine it.

-If you touch the Gnasher, then I would nerf it. The Damage Output is hillarious. It's a damn Shotgun for gods sake, it should't be possible to down someone from 15 feet away with two shots! (could be some connection errors possibly, never happens when on deds)

-The active of the Retro has to be changed. It's already a powerful weapon, with a damage boost it becomes a monster, even at mid range. Maybe change the active to more accuracity. Leave the damage output alone just like Boltok.

Lancer and Hammi are okay, maybe add some recoil to Hammerburst. I can't understand why this weapon shoots at max speed without the slightest recoil.

Just my two bits

[chainsawrarar]

My thoughts are this-
The gnasher needs to have a shorter range, and the Sawed-off needs to have either a buff or an extra shell. Heck even a shortened reload time would be better. The SO is getting unfair punishment levied against it is all I'm saying.

[nbahotshot]

Basically I think the Starting Weapons are all fine BUT:

-Rapid Fire Pads are a Problem with Hammerburst and Snub. They have to figure out a way to detect and determine it.

-If you touch the Gnasher, then I would nerf it. The Damage Output is hillarious. It's a damn Shotgun for gods sake, it should't be possible to down someone from 15 feet away with two shots! (could be some connection errors possibly, never happens when on deds)

-The active of the Retro has to be changed. It's already a powerful weapon, with a damage boost it becomes a monster, even at mid range. Maybe change the active to more accuracity. Leave the damage output alone just like Boltok.

Lancer and Hammi are okay, maybe add some recoil to Hammerburst. I can't understand why this weapon shoots at max speed without the slightest recoil.

Just my two bits

It's ridiculously difficult to even Active the Retro Lancer, half the time I end up jamming the damn thing. Hammerburst is already at its knees enough with a small ass clip, nerfing it anymore would decrease the amount of people who would use it. The Gnasher doesn't need touched because it's perfectly fine how it is, and usually those shots that tend to down people in two shots, yeah, those are called actives/good shots. Sawed-off is destroyed so much that I can't even use it anymore.

[Cuban Gekko]

The SO is BS. Ask any longterm Gears Fan. A gun that has a 270 degrees spread is ridiculous. SO over powers anything at gib range and that's what it is supposed to do, it does not need a buff.

[Oberkuppenlord]

My thoughts are this-
The gnasher needs to have a shorter range, and the Sawed-off needs to have either a buff or an extra shell. Heck even a shortened reload time would be better. The SO is getting unfair punishment levied against it is all I'm saying.

I could be evil and say "learn gnasher" and stuff like that ^^
But well i think it's enough to say that the SO is still extremely powerfull and does its work! its fine now

[cbrinkmann1981]

The SO is BS. Ask any longterm Gears Fan. A gun that has a 270 degrees spread is ridiculous. SO over powers anything at gib range and that's what it is supposed to do, it does not need a buff.

You....do realize that the cone spread is significantly reduced, and has been for weeks now, right?

[insanehorder]

i believe its about time to leave the game alone and quit changing stuff. the constant changing is turning people away from playing

[euan_raver]

Basically I think the Starting Weapons are all fine BUT:

-Rapid Fire Pads are a Problem with Hammerburst and Snub. They have to figure out a way to detect and determine it.

-If you touch the Gnasher, then I would nerf it. The Damage Output is hillarious. It's a damn Shotgun for gods sake, it should't be possible to down someone from 15 feet away with two shots! (could be some connection errors possibly, never happens when on deds)

-The active of the Retro has to be changed. It's already a powerful weapon, with a damage boost it becomes a monster, even at mid range. Maybe change the active to more accuracity. Leave the damage output alone just like Boltok.

Lancer and Hammi are okay, maybe add some recoil to Hammerburst. I can't understand why this weapon shoots at max speed without the slightest recoil.

Just my two bits

Try shooting someone at like 200+ mtr range with hammerburst and tell me it has no recoil. If their in the distance you get enough recoil to jolt your aim off target each shot.

[R3CONJACK]

Longterm gears fan*, been playing since one came out and love the gnasher. Nothing beats an old school shotty battle. BUT with the sawnoff as nerfed as it is, they may as well just remove it. there is literally NO advantage to it now, so whats the point of having it?

[FADEDSARGENT]

agreed sir this has to change very soon