WREX anticheat - basic tutorial

[Oldskool0482]

Oh wouldn't it be great if everyone on the greed servers would just go play at the dfb vctf server. No titans and better maps. Lovely. Vctf is the stepping stone to greatness! ...well as long as you pick maps not dominated by vehicles. It will force you to develop your long range skills. Bombachu and Oldskool are vctfers, two above average DM players also. Genjitsu was too, if anyone remembers him. I liked that guy. And there's Unreal.inc...he plays a bit of DM...or he use to. There's probably more.

I would love to have VCTF up and running, MTV's server was getting people but now half the people can't connect to it. I'm about to make mine a temporary vctf server.

[rek]

i play dfb,mtv's NA server(lol at bot names) epic greed #1(as fake_tits)helldrinkers and beerraisers sometimes, and whatever duel servers i end up following oldy to.

i still have fun, it's just a shame that after playing this game since launch, there are still guys who have been on a few months to a year, who eat me up...sad face.


still improving though, and i'm good enough for me.

[LLonewolf]

Are ppl really using wallhack in ut3? Then, or they are ignorant (I mean it not the bad way, u can't know everything about everything) or stupid... U can play with a totally legit "wallhack" for free... It will consume at least hum... 10 minutes, maybe 15 and a mate (or a bot) then fine tune along the weeks for super results. Easy peasy.

@Dav:On en avait parlé pour controler ça Dav si tu te souviens.

:/ ...

edit: at least it's useful for low number of players mod ofc.

[Shino]

hotcake is a cheeta. Fact.


ps: hi hotcake.

[Taffy]

There are people that seem to have very uncanny prediction skills, but I know some of them modify there ini files so footsteps give them a good sense of were their opponent is. I know it's a disadvantage but I turn footsteps off because the sound is annoying. Anyway, it's hard to tell if they're using radar or the ini footstep mod.

[Oldskool0482]

To catch a radar it generally takes a lot of work by a lot of people least on all the ones that the communities i have been apart of have caught. Took months for us to weed out the legit from the non legit and then still at the end there was some questions left about some. The footstep ini tweak though taffy you are right, it definitely give a huge advantage knowing where your opponent is, I have mine turned up and I know where people are just by which weapon they pick up. And alot of the good plays will just spam the area they hear you going to so it seems like radar to the untrained eye.

[coolcat22]

me will join for shure

[|213|]

what is this footsteps ini tweak?

[JetSpandex]

No offense but on the greed server, everyone who kills anyone is considered a bot or radar, the greed server is hardly anything to use. Actually the warfare server is turning into that too.

I know that accusations are common. However, their prevalence doesn't discredit all claims.
I'm not saying that there's a great number of hackers in the server at any given time.
But I believe there are at least a few suspicious ones.

To catch a radar it generally takes a lot of work by a lot of people least on all the ones that the communities i have been apart of have caught.

The usage of radar in demos can eliminate most of this time and work.

1. Start UT3 with the radar (or—a much safer alternative—a demo-only radar which could be one of the tools of an anti-cheat, e.g. WREX).
2. Spectate the suspect with "behindview". Analyze the moments when he/she seems to track hidden players.
3. ???
4. Profit.

what is this footsteps ini tweak?

nununununu I think Taffy referred to this:

[Engine.AudioDevice]
...
...
...
SoundGroups=(GroupName=Character,Properties=(Volum e=1.7))

[|213|]

I wanna make my dirtbike louder so they can hear me comin, ununununuunuununununnunununuununununuununnun vroom vroom ununnununu

[enoch84]

I wanna make my dirtbike louder so they can hear me comin, ununununuunuununununnunununuununununuununnun vroom vroom ununnununu

Another text to speech monster...

So far, the only UT3 players (that I recognize) that use WREX at least semi regularly are me, Random54 (who I somehow never see), Godzilla, wikkid****, Bobba_Novi (can't remember who else that is), and Jetspandex. Shock_Trooper use to, but he said WREX kept telling him he had 2 instances of UT3 running (weird). Meatplow said he tried it, but the scans took over 4 minutes, so he quit. Rook1e used it at least a few times (strangely just stopped). I use it every time, and I film myself playing on occasion (while using WREX)...beat that. lol

So all you other guys are hackers for sure

[jomi294]

BURN THE WITCH BURN HER RIGHT NOWw

[enoch84]

BURN THE WITCH BURN HER RIGHT NOWw

Lol. Well there currently are no witches. A lot of us were thinking maybe Jeff was a witch, but his reasoning for having the Radar hack makes sense. That actually is a good way to see if someone else is using radar. There is no evidence that indicates he's used it online.

It seems like a few people have accused you of being a witch though, sir. I always thought you were rediculously good at spawn killing, but I never said "thehotcake is a hacker." I don't really know much about that. Maybe it's just an overblown rumor (or maybe a joke).

[enoch84]

DavVador and/or Electrolosis, I have a question. It pertains to a potentially (obvious) loop hole in using the WREX log to see if people are using WREX. If a person uses WREX, is there anything to stop them from just closing WREX (after a successful scan) and loading the hack right after that? Will the log reflect this? Let's say someone did have the hack on a jump drive or something (not referring to Jet), could they not just plug their jump drive in right after closing WREX and run their hack? Will the log not show this? If so, the log is useless. Please let me know.

[wikkid]

I know that accusations are common. However, their prevalence doesn't discredit all claims.
I'm not saying that there's a great number of hackers in the server at any given time.
But I believe there are at least a few suspicious ones.

Yeah it does, about 99.9% of the times they say botter/radar it is usually some joe schmo who isn't even that good. The other .1% is when I question if the person is using something and instead of screaming botter botter, I use my brain and actually spec the person(with the full intent to see if they are botting or if I am just getting owned) and take a demo, then check it and the player out for myself.

but he said WREX kept telling him he had 2 instances of UT3 running (weird).

Mine is saying that too, tried reloading my ut3 the other day and it did it 4 times in a row when joining a server, even though there was only one ut3 running.

[JetSpandex]

Yeah it does, about 99.9% of the times they say botter/radar it is usually some joe schmo who isn't even that good. The other .1% is when I question if the person is using something and instead of screaming botter botter, I use my brain and actually spec the person(with the full intent to see if they are botting or if I am just getting owned) and take a demo, then check it and the player out for myself.

I know that most of the accusations are rage-induced, but even a blind squirrel gets a (fug)nut every once in a while.
Hackers don't need to be good players btw. Some can suck for the most part, but kill others in very strange ways.

And this process for the 0.1% doesn't always apply, right?
About six months ago, I was aliasing as HuskVanity and killed Harmerty with two or three simple prediction shots on Necropolis.
I remember distinctly that he whined and—based on suspicion alone—successfully kicked me from the Greed server.
Harmerty is one of your usernames, right?
I suppose it's different "in the moment."

[|213|]

Rate my skullz, i mean skillz!

gonna miss you guys, going to cali tomorrow.. so i logged in via my Driod Bionic, which is how I play Unreal Tourmanent III btw, so this way I can chit the chat and see what's on the d/l

[wikkid]

About six months ago

Was waiting for comments like this...
Hate to burst your bubble but six months ago I didn't even play this game. I just started to pick it back up in the last 4 months because I figured out what was causing issues on my computer, before that I couldn't and did not play this game, so I am sorry but you are mistaken and not only that but I haven't used Harmerty(sept one time on epics warfare server, when I first came back) since I played in the warfare league, which was over a year and a half ago, maybe even longer.

I gotta say if you are gonna try to pick a fight and make something up, why don't you make up some lame excuses about why you have radars on your computer, oh wait... you already have.

[wikkid]

* snip *

So let me get this right?
1. You say you were kicked because of the suspicion of using radar.
2. You were found to have radar software on your computer.
3. You say because it wasn't loaded when you did your wrex scan, everyone who seen your wrex scan should ignore that you have the software.
4. You say I am the lone person to get you kicked, even though it would take 51%(or whatever the admin has it set) of the server to vote kick you.
5. You say I am the lone person to get you banned, when you weren't even banned because I just seen you on the server two days ago and by the looks of your picture, Flak even says she didn't ban you.

So again, just so I have this right, is this all or am I missing something?

[wikkid]

wow, your post was deleted while I was responding


awkward...

[JetSpandex]

Awww. Wikkid thinks I'm delusional.
It's not "picking a fight" when I point out your hypocrisy.
Fortunately, I still have the PM that I sent to Flak a few days later.
Click here.

I make lame excuses?

The usage of radar in demos can eliminate most of this time and work.

1. Start UT3 with the radar (or—a much safer alternative—a demo-only radar which could be one of the tools of an anti-cheat, e.g. WREX).
2. Spectate the suspect with "behindview". Analyze the moments when he/she seems to track hidden players.
3. ???
4. Profit.

A lot of us were thinking maybe Jeff was a witch, but his reasoning for having the Radar hack makes sense. That actually is a good way to see if someone else is using radar. There is no evidence that indicates he's used it online.

EDIT: Link to picture was bork'd.

[wikkid]

naw, it worked in the other post too.

[JetSpandex]

No. I don't expect everyone to ignore what they saw.
Feast your eyes upon enoch. I was hoping for that type of reaction.

And yeah. I really don't know how you "banned me from the current session" that day. I didn't see anyone else kick-vote, but it went through.
I thought I was banned for good, but later found out that I was simply kicked.

EDIT: Damnit. Pic took forever to load on my end so I thought it derped. Minus.com has done that to me in the past. Now the posts are ordered improperly. My bad. :/

[Oldskool0482]

You appear banned when you try to reconnect for the game or the next game on a server. Then its lifted and ur able to connect, so that takes care of the banned talk. I may start running wrex all the time now, i just am to lazy to run it before hand or don't think about it. Though I haven't been called a cheater by anyone in game that I know of other than Barr which is provided in my signature (LOL) and funny thing is I ran a scan right before I got on to play that match haha. I just think that for the most part the people who have been around a good while are clean, sure some stuff is suspicious but I mean even the sun shines on a dogs ass somedays you know.

[Elcrolonosios]

but he said WREX kept telling him he had 2 instances of UT3 running (weird).

This message can will be shown for two reasons :
- You actually ran 2 or more instances of UT
- You ran 0 instance of UT : Wrex didn't recognize your .exe. The main reason is that the .exe isn't pure (crack) or it isn't referenced in our safe .exe database

Edit : Dav arrêtes d'éditer ton message quand j'édite le miens !
Edit 2 : It's ELCROLONOSIOS, nothing else

[DavVador]

For those who have the "2 instances of UT3 running", please send us your ut3.exe file wrex@mangemesboules.fr
It's probably because your version of the game is unknown, could be a modified one (hacked ?), an old patch, a warez one or legit one we are not aware of ^^

DavVador and/or Electrolosis, I have a question. It pertains to a potentially (obvious) loop hole in using the WREX log to see if people are using WREX. If a person uses WREX, is there anything to stop them from just closing WREX (after a successful scan) and loading the hack right after that? Will the log reflect this? Let's say someone did have the hack on a jump drive or something (not referring to Jet), could they not just plug their jump drive in right after closing WREX and run their hack? Will the log not show this? If so, the log is useless. Please let me know.

If you close Wrex to load a hack, once you join a Wrex server, it should warn you are un insecure client (as Wrex is no more running).
If you use Wrex to join a non Wrex server, you can't tell if the guy still had Wrex running or not.


Edit:
Désolé El, j'ai vu trop tard

[wikkid]

For those who have the "2 instances of UT3 running", please send us your ut3.exe file wrex@mangemesboules.fr
It's probably because your version of the game is unknown, could be a modified one (hacked ?), an old patch, a warez one or legit one we are not aware of ^^

I just mailed mine with the link to the original thread where the file can be downloaded, Here

Edit/Add:
Just got an email saying could not deliver to a @gmail addy - here is a download link to the file http://www.gamefront.com/files/21450053/UT3.exe

[DavVador]

From the link you gave this file was designed for servers actually, not for clients.

"This Windows only replacement executable fixes an exploit that allows clients to crash servers.
Please back up your copy of UT3.exe and replace it with the new file. This is a server side only fix; client do not need to replace their files."

You should patch your UT3 again with latest client patch so you'll get the official UT3.exe for clients, you can get here :
http://www.gamefront.com/files/13713...3---Patch-2.1/

DavVador

[enoch84]

DavVador said:

If you close Wrex to load a hack, once you join a Wrex server, it should warn you are un insecure client (as Wrex is no more running).
If you use Wrex to join a non Wrex server, you can't tell if the guy still had Wrex running or not.

I was afraid of that. Looks like I'll just be playing at cQ Chicago, as WREX servers are the only thing that will tell me if someone is currently using WREX. Apparently the WREX log is only good for revealing which WREX user is hacking.

Maybe we can get Taffy to make his server like cQ Chicago (WREX use is not required, but the server tells who's using it).

[DavVador]

Check this log :
http://88.191.144.26/logchecker/logs...8b6014fd2e2bfe
You will a line under "Server Events" each time he connects or disconnects to a Wrex server.
For other servers there is no way for us to control if Wrex was running or not at the moment the guy was playing.

[enoch84]

Check this log :
http://88.191.144.26/logchecker/logs...8b6014fd2e2bfe
You will a line under "Server Events" each time he connects or disconnects to a Wrex server.
For other servers there is no way for us to control if Wrex was running or not at the moment the guy was playing.

That's neat, but like you said, only pertains to WREX servers.

[enoch84]

I'm curious as to why I can't load the names for two lines in the log checker. It's 3-21 (3:07 and 3:09). Kinda odd.

[DavVador]

I'm curious as to why I can't load the names for two lines in the log checker. It's 3-21 (3:07 and 3:09). Kinda odd.

The log is corrupted from what i can see.

[enoch84]

I'm doubting WREX is ever going to be popular in this game. People that are hacking will NEVER use it (unless they exploit that "loop hole"), and a bunch of people won't use it because of the privacy concerns (they don't trust you guys - can't blame them). I just got another weird error the other day.

I still got my camera though. Nothing beats the camera...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsUt1zDmDNI

[wikkid]

Do you play with weapons showing? That sh*t would annoy the hell out of me...
You got video of my tri ball core on you, from downtown? Lol. Wasn't recording at the moment but thought it was funny when I seen your name, "Lol is he recording"? Anyway, gg's the other night.

[wikkid]

Would like to see it from your side

[enoch84]

Would like to see it from your side

Lol, I don't think I recorded any warefare. It's embarassing to see me play at 100+ ping. You're wikkid, right?

I've been using weaps on screen since day 1, so I'm use to it.

[Oldskool0482]

LOL Enoch with the weaps on the screen, no way I could it blocks way to much least imo.

[enoch84]

LOL Enoch with the weaps on the screen, no way I could it blocks way to much least imo.

Yeah I don't even notice it.

[enoch84]

For those who have the "2 instances of UT3 running", please send us your ut3.exe file wrex@mangemesboules.fr
It's probably because your version of the game is unknown, could be a modified one (hacked ?), an old patch, a warez one or legit one we are not aware of ^^

Sh0ck_Tr00per said he would send you his file. He said he kept getting the "2 instances of UT3 running" error.

I'm frustrated that so few people decided to use WREX, but I have to remember that it's all we have. So thanks again, guys.