An idea to Make Blood Drive less Campy Possibly?

[Youshouldreadthis]

i was thinking that flame grenades is just terrible to be on Blood Drive. All the teams do is sit up top and fire down. It should either be Frags the whole game or Frag inks. Yes i realize the issue with grenade planting but you could be slightly more careful. With Frags you have a chance to actually push up on the other team instead of seeing who has a faster trigger finger

[CorruptedSinner]

How would replacing a near useless planting grenade with one that cover the same area but also stuns fix the problem? Wouldn't it just make it worse?

[Youshouldreadthis]

Frags definently do NOT have the same radius explosion as incendiary to think that you are high.....

[JOSH BROWN FTW]

If you played gears 2 you would know that frags are what make that map campy, the only solution i can think of is to tear down the wall at the frags and make a pathway/ramp out of rubble that way there are 3 entrances instead of the linear 2.

Also while they are at it, that window at spawn should be able to jump both ways rather than just out.

[VI SubZero IX]

with frags both rounds it would just become more tedious, it wont stop people camping like it does now it just means every f***ing surface is gonna be tagged in both rounds <.<

[spjza80tt]

Frags all rounds in GOW2 on guardian..... loved it

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[Blades of Grave]

No offense, but this is a terrible idea. Both frags would make it MORE campy, and besides, I like incendiaries. It's not like camping is an invincible strategy on this map anyways.

[ObservationSlave]

Frags are much more campy than flames. Planted incendiaries are almost useless.

[Vancouva]

Frags make that map campy...

[Helluminatus]

I say close up that little window in front of the nade spawn is a better Idea (though I don't think this needs to be fixed at all)
Also, frags all the time would make it much campier.

[Luh Burger]

Do people forget smokes can be useful on this map? Same counteracting tagged frags with your own frags, if they camp their orig spawn then smoke/frag the spot and hit em with the rifles. Keep em busy or force em out. If your playing with randos, then do the same, but don't try to be a hero.

[Father Russia]

I think the map is fine personally, not nearly as good as GoW2's version, but any team that is solid can get a good flank through flamethrower and eventually the team that doesn't camp will receive the power weapon. Frags are a bit of a problem but from my personal experience of playing the map hundreds of times I always check the typical spots for nade plants. My suggestion is nothing really, if anything add some pillars in the middle because they made it too wide open.

[Youshouldreadthis]

in some ways yes, it will get more campier, but for you to run into a frag plant it cant be in the open ( with the exception of blind people) so if you know there will be plants in certain places you can toss smokes to disable them and possibly kill on the people "camping" One point you cant argue against is the fact that blood drive is rifle type of map. Frags will atleast allow you to be able to stage some pushes up the stairs

[Autumns Grief]

One thing: Play Execution/Warzone. If you play TDM, whatever the map you have, people just camp.

[patriot715]

Blood Drive isn't a good map for respawn gamemodes. It's campy by design (notice how it was brought in with the Horde maps?)

[The Dom Knight]

I voted to keep Incendiary Grenades.

Either way, it wouldn't matter. Everyone knows the popular place to plant Frags now (in that room where they spawn, or slightly further down the hallway). A smoke frag can take care of those easily.

I don't think Blood Drive is all that campy from the games I've played. The other team makes a constant rush either up the stairs or flanking us from the side.

[arctura]

The whole game is a camp-fest. Not changing due to the power of the rifles.

[SoSiCc408]

Well incendiary grenades are now WAY buffed. Even then, it wouldn't make any difference.

[Vanir]

One major flaw in this map that contributes to the campiness is that there is only one power weapon in the middle that people want. Therefore my suggestion is that the grenades should alternate Incendiary/Ink and then replace the Scorcher with Frags. That way the team that camps gets no Frags.

[ssk3tch1one]

i dont see ppl camp frags unless it 1 or 2 so i dont see the big deal but when the whole team camps its usually right out side spawn and for some unknown reason the spawns wont flip

the spawns wont flip on any of the new maps.(its like we kill 1 then they spawn at the same spot plus they r high up so its hard to get 2 them) look at clocktower the 1st time i played it we had 13 spawns left because we spawn trapped them. so instead of changing the frags, how about flipping the spawns every now and then???

[SuperHey]

Im way better with flame nades there so fun to throw and get a direct hitt with.

Frags annoy me i find the raduis of the blast to be slighty ridiculous

[XDS GaryOak]

i was thinking that flame grenades is just terrible to be on Blood Drive. All the teams do is sit up top and fire down. It should either be Frags the whole game or Frag inks. Yes i realize the issue with grenade planting but you could be slightly more careful. With Frags you have a chance to actually push up on the other team instead of seeing who has a faster trigger finger

Blood Drive was never "campy" to begin with. /thread

[Richtophen]

Blood Drive was never "campy" to begin with. /thread

That's a pretty funny joke.

[Bullet Marsh]

New weapon swaps solution:
Scorcher to torque or boomshot ( either a cycle or one or the other)
Torque to sniper. ( meaning it is always a sniper pickup at the sniper/torque. )
Frags to ink
Or have sniper/torque cycle like how it is and than scorcher is always boom
In this idea if a team camps they are giving up TWO useful weapons and get an ink and/or flame nades to defend themselves instead of the nightmarish frags.

It is just an idea and I personally find the map swaps fine. But if these changes were implemented I could not see a camping team winning.

[bbsmth933]

blood drive is fine the way it is and with all due respect what your proposing makes little sense to me. i wouldn't mind a few more frag/ink swaps though.

[twizz]

blooddrive is perfect as is