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    Cool Gears 2 MP - Still most personal gameplay

    Now that I've played all 3 games in the trilogy, I have to say, here I am back at 2. It's the best compromise of everything IMO. Sure the lag is horrible at times, but the wall bounce/cancel is evolved from 1 but not as "arcadey" as 3. Your character moves like it looks....heavy and cumbersome, but not so much that you can't use your skill/familiarity to move adeptly through the map to evade and attack. The weapons are powerful enough to have a niche at every part of the map, but I don't have to worry about camping S/O users. I do wish the longshot was as effective as it is in 3, but I think the torque bow is better in 2.

    Overall, I just dig the gameplay and intensity in 2 the most of all the games. I wish EPIC wasn't resigned to stopping improvements for the MP, but I'm here to stay until 3 can inspire and excite me the way 1 & 2 do. EPIC, you almost had it perfect with 2 fundamentally. I really wish 3 had ended up being more of an evolution, rather than a complete change. One way or another, I'll still be rockin Gears in one of it's iterations anytime I'm on my console.
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    I still think gears 2 has the best multiplayer out of all the trilogy.
    Give it dedicated servers and easily could be the best multiplayer on the console.

    I definitely agree with you about how characters move, it's just too fast paced in 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPHA iCONIC View Post
    EPIC, you almost had it perfect with 2 fundamentally.
    I'd say Gears 1 almost had it perfect fundamentally. Then Gears 2 ruined those fundamentals. And Gears 3 attempts to improve on the broken fundamentals of Gears 2. While Gears 3 may feel more like Gears 1 than Gears 2 feels like Gears 1 in terms of movement speed, I'd say in terms of gameplay fundamentals, Gears 3 is more akin to Gears 2. And that's why I still think Gears 1 is the best in the series, and best shooter game to date in my opinion. In any case, I feel that the BS gameplay and inconsistencies of Gears 2 outweigh that of Gears 3, which mainly have to do with the Sawed-off and how potent the starting rifles are, and so that's why I hold that Gears 1 > Gears 3 > Gears 2. I don't know what it is about Gears 1, but the gameplay never gets old so long as you have a decent connection to the host and the players are decent. As for Gears 3, I do find it fun but it got boring really fast, but while I'm currently finding it boring, I'm still having more fun than I would ever have with Gears 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatmanMatt View Post
    I still think gears 2 has the best multiplayer out of all the trilogy.
    Give it dedicated servers and easily could be the best multiplayer on the console.

    I definitely agree with you about how characters move, it's just too fast paced in 3.
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    Yeah, I'm thinking about going back to 2. Whenever I play 3, I just think of all the fun I had with 2. Hope there will be tons of people playing 2 for a while (at least until I begin to enjoy Gears 3 a ton more).
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    I actually enjoy TU6 G2 more than G1 for some reason. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sos View Post
    have you been smoking cheese?
    A very helpful and great contribution.
    If you disagree with me, care to explain why?

    In answer to your question, no, I have not.
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    I miss a lot of the fun I had with 2, especially horde mode. However, 3 fixed so much stuff wrong and has so much to offer in general that it will be making more memories for me.

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    Gears 2 is by far the best of the series for me. I don't have to deal with bizarre cover/firing mechanics of Gears 1, and rifles are effective without being stupidly powerful like they are in Gears 3. Maybe the gnasher is too strong at range, but I can deal with that.

    I'm probably just gonna pop in Gears 2 from now on when I want that real Gears rush. I'll miss the digger though.

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    After being excited for so long, waiting for the release of Gears 3... now that it's finally out, I find myself wanting to play Gears 2 more and more. My personal biggest gripe (and I KNOW I'm not alone here) is the Sawed Off (surprise!). It doesn't take a thread of skill, whatsoever, to use. I'd rather deal with lag and host advantage over the Sawed Off, but my problem is; whenever I search for a match in Gears 2 now, it takes 15 minutes to find a Ranked Execution/Warzone on Map Packs match.

    Gears 3 did make a lot of steps in the right direction (better hit detection, far less lag, better wallbouncing), but yet it still feels like I'm playing a beta. In fact, I'd rather have the beta version over this current version. I just hope they can turn this game into the game it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegetAryan View Post
    I don't have to deal with bizarre cover/firing mechanics of Gears 1
    What exactly are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanL View Post
    What exactly are you referring to?
    You can't cancel getting into cover or roll out of it easily, and shots fired come from the center of the camera instead of the actual gun.

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    I believe I prefer 2 as well. I feel as if the wall bouncing mechanics are just more crisp, where I press A and it happens, not it happens shortly there after. Also, inversely to what I was predicting, turning the speed back up for 3 feels as if its removed that intimate feel of a good shoot off. Where someone in 3 would rather run away from me and hope to get a team mate to cover their backs then just come at me and show off a few good shots.
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    I still play Gears 2 every time I turn on my Xbox. Gears 3 as well. I enjoy both alot but the Gears 2 shotgun battles just get me pumped.

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    I honestly have to say everybody complains because you aren't used to gears 3 I'm not going to lie the game feels different and it's by far better than gears 2 the fast phase action is fine too slow and it becomes UT2009 that sucks! Too slow and Itslame you have to give it months to get good even years.
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    i'm happy for those who really like gow2. i personally could never get attached to it. i think the fact that i was so used to gow1 and so attached to it, i never put forth the dedication and will to fully understand and learn the mechanics of gow2. don't get me wrong, i was still pretty good at the game during the time i was playing it, but it never really felt comfortable. the hit detection is bad, the shotgun is weird and there is other stuff wrong with it. gow3 really cleaned it up as far as the movement, hit detection, smoothness, etc. i truly believe if gow2 played the way gow3 does, it would be by far the best gears in the series. gow2 maps were awesome, there were like 2 i didn't like and that's it. gow3 maps are below-average and the retro/sawed-off just straight ruins the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanL View Post
    I'd say Gears 1 almost had it perfect fundamentally. Then Gears 2 ruined those fundamentals. And Gears 3 attempts to improve on the broken fundamentals of Gears 2. While Gears 3 may feel more like Gears 1 than Gears 2 feels like Gears 1 in terms of movement speed, I'd say in terms of gameplay fundamentals, Gears 3 is more akin to Gears 2. And that's why I still think Gears 1 is the best in the series, and best shooter game to date in my opinion. In any case, I feel that the BS gameplay and inconsistencies of Gears 2 outweigh that of Gears 3, which mainly have to do with the Sawed-off and how potent the starting rifles are, and so that's why I hold that Gears 1 > Gears 3 > Gears 2. I don't know what it is about Gears 1, but the gameplay never gets old so long as you have a decent connection to the host and the players are decent. As for Gears 3, I do find it fun but it got boring really fast, but while I'm currently finding it boring, I'm still having more fun than I would ever have with Gears 2.
    This. Gears 1 will never be topped IMO, but at least Gears 3 tries. Gears 2 was an abomination and a huge blight on the series(in competitive MP anyway).

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    I never personally played gears 1...i watched it being played and it looked fun. I really got into gears 2. And gears 3 its taking a little getting used to. gears 2 was by far my favorite but i only played 2 annd 3. gears 2 had the nice wallbouncing. the shotgun fights were amazing. there was nothing better than going off on kids in gears 2. when you throw together crazy wallbounnces to kill 2 people. thats where 3 screwed things up. theres no wallbouncing anymore kids walk right at you with the sawed off and if u try to wallbounce when someone has a gnasher 9 times outta 10 they kill you. because you can turn that fast. like im a believer that gears 3 has the possibility to be a really good game. its not the game that pisses me off its the kids playing it.

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    *cough* gnasher ***0t *cough*

    aw will u look at thaT? Baby's mad about the Sawed OFF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BM3xLiLxEvIL View Post
    I never personally played gears 1...i watched it being played and it looked fun. I really got into gears 2. And gears 3 its taking a little getting used to. gears 2 was by far my favorite but i only played 2 annd 3. gears 2 had the nice wallbouncing. the shotgun fights were amazing. there was nothing better than going off on kids in gears 2. when you throw together crazy wallbounnces to kill 2 people. thats where 3 screwed things up. theres no wallbouncing anymore kids walk right at you with the sawed off and if u try to wallbounce when someone has a gnasher 9 times outta 10 they kill you. because you can turn that fast. like im a believer that gears 3 has the possibility to be a really good game. its not the game that pisses me off its the kids playing it.
    Again, u only hate gears 3 because u cant use anything but the gnasher, and now EPIC tries to get u to use ARs, u vomit that sh!t right out..

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    I like gow 3 MP, I really do. But imagine Gow2 on dedicated servers. #orgasmic
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerrorTwilight View Post
    After being excited for so long, waiting for the release of Gears 3... now that it's finally out, I find myself wanting to play Gears 2 more and more. My personal biggest gripe (and I KNOW I'm not alone here) is the Sawed Off (surprise!). It doesn't take a thread of skill, whatsoever, to use. I'd rather deal with lag and host advantage over the Sawed Off, but my problem is; whenever I search for a match in Gears 2 now, it takes 15 minutes to find a Ranked Execution/Warzone on Map Packs match.

    Gears 3 did make a lot of steps in the right direction (better hit detection, far less lag, better wallbouncing), but yet it still feels like I'm playing a beta. In fact, I'd rather have the beta version over this current version. I just hope they can turn this game into the game it should be.
    "Not a thread of skill" is the point asshole. SOS was meant for MW people and little kids who wanted to try gears. Ur angry cus it beats the gnasher, the one damn weapon uve been using since G1. Pull out the lancer, it works a CHARM, i can vouch for that.

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    I personally think Gears 3 is the ultimate bestest. Gears 2 was too slow paced. Gears 1 glitched like crazy (not that the others don't, but 1 was miserable sometimes). In terms of playability, Arcade, Beast, and Horde 2.0 are vast improvements to the longevity of it. I got bored out of my mind with Horde in Gears 2. Same bad guys on the same waves, over and over. Woohoo... I liked the maps of Gears 2 better, but the gameplay in 3 trumps the map selection IMO. Plus, just look at them. I played the Campaigns over again before the Gears 3 release, and after being spoiled by the graphics in 2, 1 was rough. Now, after 3, 2 hurts to look at sometimes. I mean, have you seen 3's lighting? Of course you have. It tickles me. I feel Gears 3 took the best of both 1 and 2 and vastly improved upon that basis.
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    You dont mind waiting 3 hours to play one game then, no? More power to ya bro!

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    Gears 3 ftw

    People who say gears 3 is inferior to the other two are just mad they dont dominate as much. At least thats how i see it blowing people to pieces never looked cooler. Not to mention all the executions in gears 2 SUCK

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    Yea honestly gears of war 2 is trash!!! Now tht gow 3 is out its way better and more intense what just ruins it now is the hammerburst!! It's rediculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperHey View Post
    Gears 3 ftw

    People who say gears 3 is inferior to the other two are just mad they dont dominate as much. At least thats how i see it blowing people to pieces never looked cooler. Not to mention all the executions in gears 2 SUCK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonck1 View Post
    You dont mind waiting 3 hours to play one game then, no? More power to ya bro!
    You need a better connection. We find games in under a minute usually. Connections are usually as good as the host connections on Gears 3 ranked too.
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    Gears 2 was better, I just burnt it out getting over 60k online kills lol

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    I really miss Gears 2, i miss Jacinto, River, and Fuel Depot!!

    I'm thinking about going back to Gears for a while to see if i can FINALLY get my wings... Still a LONG way to go though
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    Tried going on Gears 2 yesterday. Could only play regular Ranked without map packs and my connection to each game was extremely laggy. And no one was on Social either.

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    If gears 2 had dedicated servers no other mp game could come close.

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    I think OP meant Gears 1. Gears 2 was an abomination that should be forgotten by everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usedtab3 View Post
    I think OP meant Gears 1. Gears 2 was an abomination that should be forgotten by everyone.
    Well, clearly not if people enjoyed (and still enjoy) playing it.
    Why do you dislike it to this level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatmanMatt View Post
    Well, clearly not if people enjoyed (and still enjoy) playing it.
    Why do you dislike it to this level?
    The people that dislike Gears 2 are the ones that go running around trying to blindfire the Longshot rifle on Gears 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyLocust View Post
    The people that dislike Gears 2 are the ones that go running around trying to blindfire the Longshot rifle on Gears 1.
    That's not true. People dislike Gears 2 because it's broken and not fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanL View Post
    That's not true. People dislike Gears 2 because it's broken and not fun.
    It was broken at launch, the game plays fine now. The only thing I can think of that is wrong with it is sniper headshot hit detection.

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    Just giving gears 2 dedicated servers would fix most (if not all) of the problems it has/had.

    Main area it was broken in was the host advantage. As far as weapon inconsistencies are concerned, gears 3 still has the same problems with gnasher point blanks and chainsaw "Vacuum".

    I'll be honest and admit I didn't play that much gears 1, I played about 4 games on splitscreen with a friend a while ago, so it's hard to draw conclusions from that. Although the perfect reloaded longshot was broken IMO.
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    I think you guys are all completely wrong, gears one was fine except for the hosts in lobbies rage quitting and you get kicked out, gears 2 was bad MP from the get go, CHEATERS were everywhere, the two piece and smoke grenades were terrible, but most of all the hosting and "true skill" system was total BS. I played the EXP weekends a few months before gears 3 and i was done, that game I agree is totally broken and even 8 title updates couldn't fix the crappy-ness that was that whole games' MP. Goodbye and Good riddance to a problem filled MP system and Hello to the Awesome-ness that is the third edition of Gears. Saying that it is noobness is just an excuse, Epic has updated the SOS, and fixed the hammerburst and they make weapon swaps and changes constantly compared to the moldy staleness of Gears 2 and 1.
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    ive played 1 and 2 and 2 rules. annex is alot of fun.
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