Overpass is a TERRIBLE MAP for TDM

**d3sigN8t3dDruNk** · 10-17-2011, 12:49 PM

All people do is rush the top and once they get it, it becomes a lancer fest and you die before you can get halfway up the steps. Its impossible to get up there and kill them if all 5 are lancering you. They need to either remove this from rotation or revamp the map to allow a back way in. Every other map has 2 ways to get into them, why not this? Its rediculously frustrating when your running a TDM and you lose so bad the other team has 13 respawns or so because you can't even get to them to attempt to kill them. Its not making the game fun when this happens. In KoTH its not bad, cause they can't win if they stay up there, that's all good and well, but in TDM and games that aren't objective based, its down right terrible. Escalation from GoW1, was a perfect exampe of how to do a map with steps. Everywhere on that map you could get killed from behind, Overpass however, you can't. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this map is crap for some game types.

**KILL3R II UK** · 10-17-2011, 12:54 PM

Some people don't like Overpass?

**SadistikV2** · 10-17-2011, 12:55 PM

It's actually a really good map. The high ground is meant to be fought for and used to a team's advantage. If you get the high ground, you won't lose, and you'll think it's a great map.

**MeberOfTheOldGuard** · 10-17-2011, 12:57 PM

Not really, if they keep rushing the top your team can either get a sniper and depending on the round, your team can get either a boomshot or a hammer of dawn that dont require you to be upstairs in the top.

**MeberOfTheOldGuard** · 10-17-2011, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by KILL3R II UK

Some people don't like Overpass?

overpass is pretty unbalanced though. They need to add another way to the top from the rear side

**dopefromie** · 10-17-2011, 01:00 PM

communicate, if you all go at once they cant kill all of you....

**Badmojo2074** · 10-17-2011, 01:01 PM

Overpass can be frustrating, but it is interesting that it pretty much puts the "team" back in TDM. If your team rushes the top at the beginning of the game you have a fair shot of taking it. If not, you can grab the power weapons and try to take it back as a team.

The boom shield is actually pretty useful as a distraction when you're moving up the stairs.

**RVS300z** · 10-17-2011, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by dopefromie

communicate, if you all go at once they cant kill all of you....

And use your smokes!!

**CorruptedSinner** · 10-17-2011, 01:03 PM

Just pickup either the Boltok or Gorgon, or just your Snub, and use it with the Boomshield to push up the hill with your teammates. Have them toss smokes while you lead the charge, and blow the hell out of them.

**d3sigN8t3dDruNk** · 10-17-2011, 01:03 PM

There is no sniper on overpass, and yes Im aware it is the point to get up there, but they only have to defend one side? Thats not legit. Ive been on both sides of it and I still don't think its fair. This isn't a rage cause I cant win on the map, its just the plain facts its not balanced. There ABSOLUTELY needs to be a 2nd way to get to the top, otherwise its rediculously unfair. Put an elevator or something on the side with the stationary gun, then I would stop saying this map sucks. Even on the games where my team has the high ground, I usually don't go up there cause its pretty wimpy gameplay to stand and lancer people that have no chance of ever reaching you.

**RVS300z** · 10-17-2011, 01:04 PM

They also added Boom & Torque!

**Slothful Koala** · 10-17-2011, 01:04 PM

Terrible in general for anything ever.

**Slothful Koala** · 10-17-2011, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by dopefromie

communicate, if you all go at once they cant kill all of you....

Assuming you're with a full team, or even a team with mics in. Your solution is stupid.

**d3sigN8t3dDruNk** · 10-17-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Slothful Koala

Assuming you're with a full team, or even a team with mics in. Your solution is stupid.

^^^^This......The community of XBL is so terrible, I don't use a mic when I'm not playing with friends simply because of all the cry babies. Even when I do play with friends, we are in party chat. I assume most people done use MICs online much for the same reasons. Having a MIC doesn't mean your teams going to listen anyways. WHen I play without a MIC, I try to stick with my team as much as possible, the people who dont, almost always cost you the game.

**wallst32** · 10-17-2011, 01:10 PM

The main reason why this map is unbalanced is the top area can see and shoot just about every other area of the map. I don't have a problem with the stairs being a choke point. But it's a long run from spawn to the stairs with very little cover and you're an easy target. They should at least make it such that you can hug along the center area on the ground and have some coverage. The mortars which they removed are probaby more useful the boomshot they replaced it with (I never thought I'd say that mortars are better than boom, but in this scenario it is true).

When I play with a team of randoms, it's not unusal for people to start quitting out once the top is captured.

**d3sigN8t3dDruNk** · 10-17-2011, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by wallst32

The main reason why this map is unbalanced is the top area can see and shoot just about every other area of the map. I don't have a problem with the stairs being a choke point. But it's a long run from spawn to the stairs with very little cover and you're an easy target. They should at least make it such that you can hug along the center area on the ground and have some coverage. The mortars which they removed are probaby more useful the boomshot they replaced it with (I never thought I'd say that mortars are better than boom, but in this scenario it is true).

When I play with a team of randoms, it's not unusal for people to start quitting out once the top is captured.

EXACTLY! I don't understand why they removed the mortars....its the ONLY way to clear out the top without dying 5-6 times.

**HurricaneCat** · 10-17-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by d3sigN8t3dDruNk

There is no sniper on overpass, and yes Im aware it is the point to get up there, but they only have to defend one side? Thats not legit. Ive been on both sides of it and I still don't think its fair. This isn't a rage cause I cant win on the map, its just the plain facts its not balanced. There ABSOLUTELY needs to be a 2nd way to get to the top, otherwise its rediculously unfair. Put an elevator or something on the side with the stationary gun, then I would stop saying this map sucks. Even on the games where my team has the high ground, I usually don't go up there cause its pretty wimpy gameplay to stand and lancer people that have no chance of ever reaching you.

If they're only defending one side its actually pretty easy to clear them out with torque/boom/nades from behind. I've killed an entire team up there with one frag, and 3 people with 2 incendiaries. It's not as hard as everyone claims.

**Skadoosh!** · 10-17-2011, 01:35 PM

I like this map more and more, it really forces randoms to work as a team.
If you have that much trouble with this map, try not doing the same thing
over and over and expecting different results.
Also, your poll is slightly bias.