Idle Boosting

[Moeru Tamashi]

So right now I see this guy, he is a level 90, and I see how he got it. It looks like he tied a rubber band on his joysticks, that way the game thinks he isn't idle.

Great job testing that one EPIC, it seems like you put a lot of thought into how people can abuse it. That should be the first thing you think of. >_>

[dzs Awez0me]

happned in the beta also.
my suggestion putting in a vote kick option didnt make it in the game

[Moeru Tamashi]

No, a vote to kick option would be horrible because people would abuse it just like they abuse the SO. If it happened in the Beta and they still didn't fix it, they obviously don't give a **** as long as people are playing their game.

[SIR BIGGLES 520]

happned in the beta also.
my suggestion putting in a vote kick option didnt make it in the game

The vote kick options are usually, not always, used for bad intentions. I thought and suggest now that they make it so the player has to press any button other than movement related. Ex aim, roll, melee. Honestly who doesn't play a game where they don't do one of those things

[MostBlunted]

I saw one guy yesterday boosting in quick match (KOTH). He was just running around in circles and shooting in the air.

[olsaltee]

I do hate the idle players, had 3 on my team yesterday with 1 bot. Results i didnt win.

[Altair070]

You're blaming EPIC for something that people can do in any game? FFS... idiot. And besides, who cares? If people want to boost to 100, who really cares? Their KD will be messed up anyways.

[The Dom Knight]

The vote kick options are usually, not always, used for bad intentions. I thought and suggest now that they make it so the player has to press any button other than movement related. Ex aim, roll, melee. Honestly who doesn't play a game where they don't do one of those things

They should've done that. If they don't press any of the other buttons for something like 2 matches straight they should be booted.
I give it 2 matches because sometimes someone might have to be gone for a quick bathroom or phonecall break.

[Lornex117]

You're blaming EPIC for something that people can do in any game? FFS... idiot. And besides, who cares? If people want to boost to 100, who really cares? Their KD will be messed up anyways.

I'm pretty sure these **** hungry noobs dont give a crap about their K/D. I don't at all because when I shut off my XBOX, I can't go telling my customers or friends my awesome k/d on gears 3 because people will look at me like I'm a giant ****tard sandwhich

[olsaltee]

You're blaming EPIC for something that people can do in any game? FFS... idiot. And besides, who cares? If people want to boost to 100, who really cares? Their KD will be messed up anyways.

Dont think they care about there KD if there idling. But it is an issue for the designers. They try to implement systems to prevent this from happening so it doesnt create a bad gaming environment to play in. Example if you stand still you will be removed for not doing anything. But they tape or rubber band there controllers. So now they are moving. The designers should forsee these issues and try to implement ways to prevent it.

[Finlandia v0dka]

You're blaming EPIC for something that people can do in any game? FFS... idiot. And besides, who cares? If people want to boost to 100, who really cares? Their KD will be messed up anyways.

It affects others who are playing in the same match. And it won't be so healthy for other peoples ratios either if their team keeps losing because of an idler.

[Laser]

I don't understand why people boost their rank, this is not Duty Calls where you unlock new weapons.

[o Soda o]

You're blaming EPIC for something that people can do in any game? FFS... idiot. And besides, who cares? If people want to boost to 100, who really cares? Their KD will be messed up anyways.

They're blaming Epic because "rubberbanding" is a well known issue in games that feature progressive unlocks and there have been methods in place for years that prevent it from happening in said games.

People care because they want a fair match, and I don't think that is too much to ask, do you?

[FlyingRock]

It's really impossible to stop rubberbanding, even if you made it so everyone had to hit "A" in the beginning of every round, some dude just has to hit A then he's free to walk away/play whatever else hes playing/homework ect..

Its an annoying reality that is a specific outcome of the quick match system that Microsoft "encouraged" implementation of, back in the olden days of Xbox these idle individuals never and couldnt exist.

[Random Haji]

Give us a ****ing break.

Dont think they care about there KD if there idling. But it is an issue for the designers. They try to implement systems to prevent this from happening so it doesnt create a bad gaming environment to play in. Example if you stand still you will be removed for not doing anything. But they tape or rubber band there controllers. So now they are moving. The designers should forsee these issues and try to implement ways to prevent it.

[Random Haji]

A fair match at what, exactly?

What imaginary balancing system is being "compromised" by someone willing to inflating their level to 100 if their abilities do reflect such an achievement this early in the game?

They're blaming Epic because "rubberbanding" is a well known issue in games that feature progressive unlocks and there have been methods in place for years that prevent it from happening in said games.

People care because they want a fair match, and I don't think that is too much to ask, do you?

[IXxRolandxXI]

I'm pretty sure these **** hungry noobs dont give a crap about their K/D. I don't at all because when I shut off my XBOX, I can't go telling my customers or friends my awesome k/d on gears 3 because people will look at me like I'm a giant ****tard sandwhich

LMAO....sigged!

[assainator117]

take a vidoe of them and send it to a mod and they will ban them

[anxiety alchemist]

yep ive seen this hahaha free kills for me

[IDeadWork]

happned in the beta also.
my suggestion putting in a vote kick option didnt make it in the game

Vote kick doesn't work. You'll have ppl kicking the better player all the time. Or just abusing it for the wrong reasons.

[ShadowsEnclosed]

Vote to kick would work, most people are not as bad as you think. Plus, on the computer side of things, host has always and still does have the option to boot players. Why is it that consoles don't have this option?

Computers do, and they play and get along just fine.

[MATUREX]

happned in the beta also.
my suggestion putting in a vote kick option didnt make it in the game

People would abuse that option too.

[Born2Zig]

Vote kick doesn't work. You'll have ppl kicking the better player all the time. Or just abusing it for the wrong reasons.

I agree voting would get outa hand fast. It might cause a riot.

Just block/avoid the player and/or report them. Like previous ppl have said. Their k/d radio is probably .1

[PSYBERNATOR]

How about a voting system like this.

If you think a player is a AFK (rubber banding, whatever), and all the other players agree to kick, on the screen of the AFK player a message comes up saying:

IT'S BELIEVED YOU'RE AWAY FROM KEYBOARD, AND YOU'LL BE KICKED IN 10 SECONDS. PRESS START BUTTON TO CANCEL ACTION.

Also, there's only one time per match anyone can be attempted to be kicked.

This method does a few things. One, if you're really there, you can cancel the action, as you're obviously not AFK. Two, keeps people from trying over and over to kick you. True, you may get 4 clan members that may yell at you to leave at the beginning of a match, but you can disagree with the click of a button and then mute them.

Thoughts?

[DJ CrunchWrap]

Seeing as this only can happen in quick matches, why not just find a new lobby and avoid the player so you don't get stuck in the same game. let the bots try to deffend the afk peeps.

[|ZOMBIE|]

So people are putting a rubber band on their controllers so they arent standing still, joining a horde match and just letting that go all day while they are at work school etc? Thats pathetic.

[PSYBERNATOR]

I believe ranked matches start match making shortly after a match ends if you don't cancel out of it.

[o Soda o]

A fair match at what, exactly?

What imaginary balancing system is being "compromised" by someone willing to inflating their level to 100 if their abilities do reflect such an achievement this early in the game?

Well, 4v5 isn't exactly a fair match is it? Actually, a true 4v5 would be more fair than a 5v5 with one player that is a free kill.

Did that really not occur to you?

It has NOTHING to do with the arbitrary ranking system, it has to do with FAIR matches, which is exactly what I originally stated. Try to keep up.

FYI - the issue of "rubberbanding" was addressed in games as early as Rainbow Six Vegas, which would boot you if it detected any form of idling. It is far from impossible to prevent..

[Ahrivve]

No. Plz not a vote kick option. Combat Arms (Free FPS PC game) has a vote kick option. If someone does good, you get kicked. I'd rather play with hackers than have a vote kick option.

[koningStoma]

This is so easy to detect. All they have to do is check for how long the sticks are in the same position.

Its almost funny how they didn't think of this.

I don't see how this needs a vote kick option.

[Keverett10]

Umm I can't believe the people saying just do nothing. There is many problems with this. one because epic supports these player by giving points for losing, no ribbons, and consecutive matches. The other issue is having the team get a free kill in tdm this an issue. Execution and warzone and objective games the only issue is team balance. Next issue is ranking system a lvl 60 booster being ranked against other 60's is unfair. Last and very minor they are getting things by cheating.

[AddishunsUJelly]

You act like this hasn't been in every single xbox game EVER to be released. Epic can't do anything about it. Nuff said.

[koningStoma]

You act like this hasn't been in every single xbox game EVER to be released. Epic can't do anything about it. Nuff said.

They can do something about it. Its really easy to detect whether the analog sticks are fixed in one position or not.

[Cobryza]

You can't just assume that a high rank did rubberbanding... You can easily rank up by getting medals and getting Onyx ones. The matches played medals can be boosted in private matches with bots, just set the match up right and leave it on overnight. If using a wireless controller, plug a play & charge kit in to stop it turning off.

[mulletmann21]

Yeah it's highly irritating to be me and like 1 or 2 other guys facing a full other team while the rest of my team is still standing there back in spawn. I'd rather have a bot than an idler, bots always spot and can be scary accurate.

[Ellen DeGeneres]

why do you care if someone has a higher rank than you? jesus christ, get over it.

[mulletmann21]

why do you care if someone has a higher rank than you? jesus christ, get over it.

Not about the rank to me. It's about being 1 or 2 men down when there could be a bot or an actual player there trying to actually play the game.

[Quadraxis]

wow his k.d must be -0.00000000000....

[Random Haji]

You're quite the simpleton.

Did it not occur to that peabrain head of yours that being in that particular position is no different than playing with someone who is unskilled and nothing more than cannon fodder?

Further, the idle player you're crying about makes for a clever tactical maneuver, one I'm sure is you're far to clumsy to appreciate.

This particular threads makes me long for my previous username, "I See Stupid People."

Well, 4v5 isn't exactly a fair match is it? Actually, a true 4v5 would be more fair than a 5v5 with one player that is a free kill.

Did that really not occur to you?

It has NOTHING to do with the arbitrary ranking system, it has to do with FAIR matches, which is exactly what I originally stated. Try to keep up.

FYI - the issue of "rubberbanding" was addressed in games as early as Rainbow Six Vegas, which would boot you if it detected any form of idling. It is far from impossible to prevent..

[o Soda o]

You act like this hasn't been in every single xbox game EVER to be released. Epic can't do anything about it. Nuff said.

Again, idle boosting in any form is easily preventable.

Halo Reach does it and Rainbow Six Vegas did it even better, much earlier.