Is the Lancer is "overpowered"? [500+ Votes]

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

Just wondering what the community thinks?

I personally think its fine. You?

Don't forget to VOTE and please EXPLAIN your thoughts on the gun.

*Lancer*
ROF (Rate of Fire) - 550
Damage - 55
Mag Size - 60
PAR (Perfect Active Reload) - 72
NOTE: Lancer does 1.5x damage multiplier to head.

Please stay on topic!

[Intuitive Soul]

No in fact I feel the base damage on the lancer is slightly too weak.

[inclement weather]

Head damage needs to leave

[NFI]

No in fact I feel the base damage on the lancer is slightly too weak.

Which is precisely why the gun is balanced. The gun is not intended really to kill, it is to suppress, hold opponents in place while teammates flank, and to down. With the high ROF and deep magazine, this is why the gun is excellently balanced.

The head multiplier has been with us since Gears 2, and is not even remotely an issue because hitting the head of a moving target with the Lancer is plenty hard unless the idiot is in a bee line or stationary.

[xFlamexOfxHellx]

All starting weapons are fine. You just need to know how to beat them.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

Which is precisely why the gun is balanced. The gun is not intended really to kill, it is to suppress, hold opponents in place while teammates flank, and to down. With the high ROF and deep magazine, this is why the gun is excellently balanced.

The head multiplier has been with us since Gears 2, and is not even remotely an issue because hitting the head of a moving target with the Lancer is plenty hard unless the idiot is in a bee line or stationary.

This is 100% correct

[Negra Prieta]

All starting weapons are fine. You just need to know how to beat them.

^ Translation : Even though this thread is about the Lancer I wanna say all starting weapons because I don't want the SOS nerfed.

[Vexta]

I honestly think you need to grow up. Your acting like a child at the moment. I simply stated my opinion and tried to change yours. Obviously didn't work.

[HowardJones KsE]

All starting weapons are fine. You just need to know how to beat them.

This man speaks the truth!

[K3NGL1SH]

I don't quite understand where people are coming from saying the Lancer is OP.

I just played a match earlier on Overpass where my team mate and I were both gunning a kid down from a medium distance with Lancers. The kid was able to hop over a barricade, dive to a car, and then out of sight, all while under constant fire. This has happened in Hotel too. Sometimes I have to unload the entire clip at a distance to down someone.

If you're getting gunned down enough by the Lancer that you're claiming it's "over powered", you need to change your tactics up. We've already heard the statistics on base damage and the sort. I don't know what else people need. Hell, the people complaining about it will only be satisfied when it's COMPLETELY useless and fires a healing salve that cures all wounds instead of bullets.

The Lancer is fine. If you're having trouble with it, get a little closer with a Retro, or learn to Hammerburst. Hammy will outgun a Lancer almost always if you're accurate.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

I honestly think you need to grow up. Your acting like a child at the moment. I simply stated my opinion and tried to change yours. Obviously didn't work.

I need to grow up? Please tell me how im acting like a child? Its obvious you are just mad lol very mad I see.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

I don't quite understand where people are coming from saying the Lancer is OP.

I just played a match earlier on Overpass where my team mate and I were both gunning a kid down from a medium distance with Lancers. The kid was able to hop over a barricade, dive to a car, and then out of sight, all while under constant fire. This has happened in Hotel too. Sometimes I have to unload the entire clip at a distance to down someone.

If you're getting gunned down enough by the Lancer that you're claiming it's "over powered", you need to change your tactics up. We've already heard the statistics on base damage and the sort. I don't know what else people need. Hell, the people complaining about it will only be satisfied when it's COMPLETELY useless and fires a healing salve that cures all wounds instead of bullets.

The Lancer is fine. If you're having trouble with it, get a little closer with a Retro, or learn to Hammerburst. Hammy will outgun a Lancer almost always if you're accurate.

Well said my friend.

Keep the votes coming guys and gals!

[thmgd]

It's pretty good for me,however the hammerburst seem's a tad overpowered.Maybe it's all the modded controllers out there,but it sure seems like 1 second and your down,not leaving you any time for defensive manuvers.

[Mr Merkles]

underpowered imo. HB is way stronger but the clip is kinda small. But still...HB>lancer by a mile

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

underpowered imo. HB is way stronger but the clip is kinda small. But still...HB>lancer by a mile

I think the Lancer is perfect. If you PAR and aim for the head you get a 1.5 damage multiplier. =)

[Mr Merkles]

you can shoot me in the head all you want but I'll still down you first with my HB 9/10 times

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

you can shoot me in the head all you want but I'll still down you first with my HB 9/10 times

Very tru, and your statement shows that the Lancer is not OP =)

[NFI]

It's pretty good for me,however the hammerburst seem's a tad overpowered.Maybe it's all the modded controllers out there,but it sure seems like 1 second and your down,not leaving you any time for defensive manuvers.

HB is not over powered.

[PsychoWARD23]

The starting weapons are balanced perfectly

[DangIGotSawedAgain]

Clip size is a bit big, but maybe a slight decrease in active damage should be considered. Otoh, active HB with it's accuracy feels deadlier to me.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

Clip size is a bit big, but maybe a slight decrease in active damage should be considered. Otoh, active HB with it's accuracy feels deadlier to me.

The PAR damage on the lancer is on 72 while the Standard damage for the HB is 76. No need for a damage reduction.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

Bump!

(10 char)

[GSK123]

Nah, not really lawl.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

Keep voting!!

[THECRAZYBERSERKER]

I don't quite understand where people are coming from saying the Lancer is OP.

I just played a match earlier on Overpass where my team mate and I were both gunning a kid down from a medium distance with Lancers. The kid was able to hop over a barricade, dive to a car, and then out of sight, all while under constant fire. This has happened in Hotel too. Sometimes I have to unload the entire clip at a distance to down someone.

If you're getting gunned down enough by the Lancer that you're claiming it's "over powered", you need to change your tactics up. We've already heard the statistics on base damage and the sort. I don't know what else people need. Hell, the people complaining about it will only be satisfied when it's COMPLETELY useless and fires a healing salve that cures all wounds instead of bullets.

The Lancer is fine. If you're having trouble with it, get a little closer with a Retro, or learn to Hammerburst. Hammy will outgun a Lancer almost always if you're accurate.

That's the problem people like me don't like using lancers or retros or hammer, or dbs i like using my gnasher like a true Gears 1 vet = D

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

That's the problem people like me don't like using lancers or retros or hammer, or dbs i like using my gnasher like a true Gears 1 vet = D

Zomg that game is so 5 years ago! Haha just kidding

[G0AT]

All starting weapons are fine. You just need to know how to beat them.

easer said than done the only way to beat the SOS is if u ID that it is a sos see him hiding in his corner and use the gnasher like an AR... Yep. Nerf the range on the SOS and the range of its spread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ABrmQ0B3jM.

[xTZAx]

No, I think the Hammerburst is underpowered in comparison to the other two though. The reason being by the time you get a down on one person times you don't have enough bullets to finish them off, this is in mid-long range. You can kill two people minimum with one Lancer clip, close-mid range. Ditto Retro.

[sloppybottomz]

Lancer is the same as it was in gears 2 except clip size, it is too big. I can down and kill 3 people with active. Other than that good job on lancer and hammerburst

[Cobryza]

The lancer is... perfect. As powerful as it needs to be. Does not need nerfing or buffing.

[Sulfuric]

If there was a stopping power on/off setting for custom games, it would be like when Epic announced dedicated servers all over again *melts with joy*

I can't comment on weapon damage until I play the game more, but assault rifles seem to be about 5-10% too powerful overall. The Gears 1 HOST lancer was perfect before the buff. The reason it was buffed was because it was too weak for everyone else because of lag. Now there is no lag, and a big damage buff in comparison plus stopping power.

I miss pistol headshots . . .

[Deeflin]

I feel like the lancer is a really good weapon. I know I have problems choosing when to aim for the head and when not to, but I get the downs I feel I should get. I do wish they could increase the time your perfect reload lasts, but I KNOW that would make it overpowered.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

No, I think the Hammerburst is underpowered in comparison to the other two though. The reason being by the time you get a down on one person times you don't have enough bullets to finish them off, this is in mid-long range. You can kill two people minimum with one Lancer clip, close-mid range. Ditto Retro.

That's the only downside the the HB. Very powerful but small clip. The Lancer is for suppressive fire and it does exactly what its intended to do.

[Fro0t_Lo0ps]

10 more votes and we will hit 100!

[MstarR x COG]

I think the damage is fine but maybe just reduce the mag size to 50

[BlaxicanX]

Clip size is too big for how easy it is to get active reloads with it. Clip size needs to be reduced, imo.

[SirDizzy]

It's fine. If you use it in the correct situation, you'll never lose.

[Devilcat398]

The lancer is finally what it was meant to be, a great medium to long range weapon, perfect counter to the gnasher.

[Soapy]

No, because a Hammerburst can counter a Lancer.

[BWO RazrStorm]

no. it feels fine to me.