about players who quit early

[COG_G3N3R4L]

will it be the same punishment like gears 2?
1500 xp penalty?
they should make it more than that and what about killing an employee if we're from europe, we'll not be able to play against americans? or am i wrong?

[iDrama360]

i'm guessing you mean the Lambency achievement? It's an infection achievement so whoever kills someone who has it, they get it as well and loads of people have it already. You'll probably get it on your first kill online.

[CharlieSpleen]

If you quit early the penalty is 4,500 xp and all your kills go to zero and 1 death is added to your total death count.

So if someone went 2 kills - 12 deaths and then decided to quit they would get a penalty of 4,500 xp and their k/d for that match would be 0 kills and 13 deaths.

[the UPS guy]

Damn, that's harsh.

[CodeNameNickG]

It should be.

[Clearly Balkan]

Good to hear that. It should be even harsher.

[AHal]

You also get all of your deaths counted but NO kills counted.

[IDeadWork]

Damn, that's harsh.

I think it's great. Now ppl have to play or face serious statistical consequences. How it should be. Leaving in gears is overboard. Some ppl quit more then they play

[Baroni 88]

What if you have choppy internet? I live on the perimeter of the at&t service and, every once in awhile, the internet might cut out. Because, personally, I don't ever want to leave a game but my internet doesn't want to cooperate. I really want to keep my disconnects at 0.

Don't get me wrong, I love how they are penalizing quitters in Gears 3. But I don't want to be one of those people because of an unstable internet connection

[GSK123]

How about even more harsh -3000

[Jiraytio]

No, you shouldn't make people who quit early pay. What happens if they have a crappy internet, or an emergency. It is not there fault. At least just make it 0 kills and 1 death and not lost exp.

[Baroni 88]

No, you shouldn't make people who quit early pay. What happens if they have a crappy internet, or an emergency. It is not there fault. At least just make it 0 kills and 1 death and not lost exp.

Well, like I was saying, my internet is unpredictable. Most of the time it will stay connected but, once in awhile, it will disconnect. I want quitters to be penalized but I don't want to be hammered if my internet cuts out.

[CharlieSpleen]

How about even more harsh -3000

the penalty is -4,500 xp kills drop to zero and 1 death is added to your death total for the match.

[CharlieSpleen]

Well, like I was saying, my internet is unpredictable. Most of the time it will stay connected but, once in awhile, it will disconnect. I want quitters to be penalized but I don't want to be hammered if my internet cuts out.

Play public then.

[MATUREX]

Why do people quit or quit early:
They are getting dominated
The MP match is too laggy
They are not pinging(gun less powerful+accurate) more than their opponent(gun is more powerful+accurate).
Their shotgun is shooting 3-4 seconds later after pulling the trigger
Their connection keeps shutting off
Someone is cheating, glitching.
They are tired of doing all the work while still losing the MATCH.
No one communicates
They had to go eat dinner
They have a clan match and didn't want to stay in the game they are in now(playing with randoms).
Someone keeps grabbing their fav. weapon.
Game invite(someone just sent and was expecting them).
Power went out.

I'm sure there's more

So many factors and reasons. You can't just say they quit because they are horrible(that just makes you single minded).

[Smokeout Slawth]

Why do people quit or quit early:
They are getting dominated
The MP match is too laggy
They are not pinging(gun less powerful+accurate) more than their opponent(gun is more powerful+accurate).
Their shotgun is shooting 3-4 seconds later after pulling the trigger
Their connection keeps shutting off
Someone is cheating, glitching.
They are tired of doing all the work while still losing the MATCH.
No one communicates
They had to go eat dinner
They have a clan match and didn't want to stay in the game they are in now(playing with randoms).
Someone keeps grabbing their fav. weapon.
Game invite(someone just sent and was expecting them).
Power went out.

I'm sure there's more

So many factors and reasons. You can't just say they quit because they are horrible(that just makes you single minded).

I agree except for grabbing their favorite weapon, thats just rediculous but most likely true. Still, there are so many reasons people quit and you have a good point. I do think people should be penalized, but people who don't deserve it for a couple of reason you listed shouldnt be playing ranked anyway because they know this will happen so it's really on them reguardless of their reason for quitting.

[IDeadWork]

No, you shouldn't make people who quit early pay. What happens if they have a crappy internet, or an emergency. It is not there fault. At least just make it 0 kills and 1 death and not lost exp.

ok those situations you mentioned are small compared to the overwealming constant quitting in gears of war games for no other reason then people are either; losing, cant get the weapon before a teammate, or trying to save stats....those are the bulk of the reason. everyone else is colletaral damage...those people ruined it for others because it happens so often. Im PSYCHED that they are doing this.

[Slaughterize]

Why do people quit or quit early:
They are getting dominated
The MP match is too laggy
They are not pinging(gun less powerful+accurate) more than their opponent(gun is more powerful+accurate).
Their shotgun is shooting 3-4 seconds later after pulling the trigger
Their connection keeps shutting off
Someone is cheating, glitching.
They are tired of doing all the work while still losing the MATCH.
No one communicates
They had to go eat dinner
They have a clan match and didn't want to stay in the game they are in now(playing with randoms).
Someone keeps grabbing their fav. weapon.
Game invite(someone just sent and was expecting them).
Power went out.

I'm sure there's more

So many factors and reasons. You can't just say they quit because they are horrible(that just makes you single minded).

Most of those reasons are arbitrary, we're talking about Gears of War 3 with dedicated servers, that removes 70% of those reasons, if their connection cuts out it's their fault they need to upgrade their net or just deal with it, it comes down to no ones fault but your own. As far as losing or feeling like they are doing all the work, then don't play alone or don't play competitive, I play ALL THE TIME in Gears of war alone and get terrible team mates, laggy games and I complain when I get killed but I NEVER leave the games due to any reasons you listed. People need to stop ruining the experience for everyone else based on silly excuses. You can't justify being a jackass with stupidity.

[ShaunOwnz]

Most of those reasons are arbitrary, we're talking about Gears of War 3 with dedicated servers, that removes 70% of those reasons, if their connection cuts out it's their fault they need to upgrade their net or just deal with it, it comes down to no ones fault but your own. As far as losing or feeling like they are doing all the work, then don't play alone or don't play competitive, I play ALL THE TIME in Gears of war alone and get terrible team mates, laggy games and I complain when I get killed but I NEVER leave the games due to any reasons you listed. People need to stop ruining the experience for everyone else based on silly excuses. You can't justify being a jackass with stupidity.

Are you gonna pay for everyone with internet issues to resolve them? If not, then I suggest you stfu.

I believe that those penalties are more extreme than GOW2 penalties. Almost to the point where Online Play is only gonna be about boosting. If you take that away from players everytime they quit, we're gonna see more boosters and lagswitchers than ever before. IMHO, penalizing them to that severity is insane. WHAT IF one of those circumstances occur, let's say, I'm playing a quick match before I'm off to work, but it's dragging out so long that I just cannot afford to sit at my console any longer and I have to do what I have to do to pay bills, the same thing that bought my copy of this game in the first place... I'm gonna lose stats for THAT? Where's the love Epic?

[IDeadWork]

Most of those reasons are arbitrary, we're talking about Gears of War 3 with dedicated servers, that removes 70% of those reasons, if their connection cuts out it's their fault they need to upgrade their net or just deal with it, it comes down to no ones fault but your own. As far as losing or feeling like they are doing all the work, then don't play alone or don't play competitive, I play ALL THE TIME in Gears of war alone and get terrible team mates, laggy games and I complain when I get killed but I NEVER leave the games due to any reasons you listed. People need to stop ruining the experience for everyone else based on silly excuses. You can't justify being a jackass with stupidity.

Are you gonna pay for everyone with internet issues to resolve them? If not, then I suggest you stfu.

I believe that those penalties are more extreme than GOW2 penalties. Almost to the point where Online Play is only gonna be about boosting. If you take that away from players everytime they quit, we're gonna see more boosters and lagswitchers than ever before. IMHO, penalizing them to that severity is insane. WHAT IF one of those circumstances occur, let's say, I'm playing a quick match before I'm off to work, but it's dragging out so long that I just cannot afford to sit at my console any longer and I have to do what I have to do to pay bills, the same thing that bought my copy of this game in the first place... I'm gonna lose stats for THAT? Where's the love Epic?

no love for quitters ... stop trying to pass off quitting for ppl having internet issues. internet issues are few and far in between. the majority of the ppl that quit are losing, cant pick up weapons or trying to save thier KD

one of the members of my team has a 1.8 doanload speed and .3 upload ... worst intenet ever....i play with him everyday and he never lags out. and thats gears 2...and ppl almost ALWAYS call him host.

[Baroni 88]

Play public then.

Actually, that's a good recommendation. I play social all the time. Ill take your advice on that. I don't care about leaderboards anyway.

[Slaughterize]

Are you gonna pay for everyone with internet issues to resolve them? If not, then I suggest you stfu.

I believe that those penalties are more extreme than GOW2 penalties. Almost to the point where Online Play is only gonna be about boosting. If you take that away from players everytime they quit, we're gonna see more boosters and lagswitchers than ever before. IMHO, penalizing them to that severity is insane. WHAT IF one of those circumstances occur, let's say, I'm playing a quick match before I'm off to work, but it's dragging out so long that I just cannot afford to sit at my console any longer and I have to do what I have to do to pay bills, the same thing that bought my copy of this game in the first place... I'm gonna lose stats for THAT? Where's the love Epic?

You realize most internet issues beyond just pure connection are usually because of the router someone uses or just outdated equipment, it all comes back to the owner not properly setting things up, you could easily call your ISP and get step by step instructions on how to fix issues for FREE, but if your talking about purely connection issues, you need to find a better ISP or spend more money, I spend 36.99 a month through comcast to get 24mb down and 5mb up, I never disconnect or lag out, I have all my xboxs wired via ethernet cables under my house and my laptops, ect run wireless, you just have to set things up properly in the first place to avoid internet issues.

The fact that your first sentence demands I should pay everyones internet bill should make me ignore you completely but I'm pretty sure to play on XBL you are supposed to be using broadband internet and if your getting 1mb down and .4mb up THAT IS NOT BROADBAND QUALITY.

As far as you taking a quick game before work, I work too buddy I get up for work everyday at 6:30 and am in the road by 6:50, it's called responsibility I don't play before work because I don't have time I wait until I get home, eat dinner, ect to enjoy video games. If you are getting a game in quickly you need to play a gametype with drop in drop out capabilities or one you know the maximum allotted times for each game so you know the maximum possible time you could be playing before the game is over.

[ShaunOwnz]

no love for quitters ... stop trying to pass off quitting for ppl having internet issues. internet issues are few and far in between. the majority of the ppl that quit are losing, cant pick up weapons or trying to save thier KD

one of the members of my team has a 1.8 doanload speed and .3 upload ... worst intenet ever....i play with him everyday and he never lags out. and thats gears 2...and ppl almost ALWAYS call him host.

One sentence of my post was about internet issues. I'm more opposed to the penalties because there are VAST reasons as to why a player quits. Maybe they should have it so that if you're losing and you quit, you get penalized. Just something, because this just isn't right. I'd have to put in work to earn 4500 XP. And if I have to get somewhere in a rush, I don't wanna have to do it all over just because I turned my console off in the middle of a match.

I faced that scenario alot, on Black Ops for example, or Madden 12 (got 20% DNF because this guy wanted to keep rushing in the 3rd and trying to stall the clock, i had 10 minutes before I had to BE AT work...)

[ShaunOwnz]

You realize most internet issues beyond just pure connection are usually because of the router someone uses or just outdated equipment, it all comes back to the owner not properly setting things up, you could easily call your ISP and get step by step instructions on how to fix issues for FREE, but if your talking about purely connection issues, you need to find a better ISP or spend more money, I spend 36.99 a month through comcast to get 24mb down and 5mb up, I never disconnect or lag out, I have all my xboxs wired via ethernet cables under my house and my laptops, ect run wireless, you just have to set things up properly in the first place to avoid internet issues.

The fact that your first sentence demands I should pay everyones internet bill should make me ignore you completely but I'm pretty sure to play on XBL you are supposed to be using broadband internet and if your getting 1mb down and .4mb up THAT IS NOT BROADBAND QUALITY.

As far as you taking a quick game before work, I work too buddy I get up for work everyday at 6:30 and am in the road by 6:50, it's called responsibility I don't play before work because I don't have time I wait until I get home, eat dinner, ect to enjoy video games. If you are getting a game in quickly you need to play a gametype with drop in drop out capabilities or one you know the maximum allotted times for each game so you know the maximum possible time you could be playing before the game is over.

I Should play what the hell I feel like playing, because I spent my hard earned money to do so. Who are you to judge? And once again, ONE sentence of my post was about internet issues. That's far from complaining, I was stating a opinion, sir.

I have Comcast, and as crappy as they can be (Mortal Kombat, Madden 12 lag has been confirmed for a majority of Comcast Internet Service Users), I reset my modem/router and I'm good to go, except on those 2 games I've mentioned. So once again, internet isn't my main concern. But for the ones who have that concern, if you aren't going to assist in paying their internet bills throughout this economic crisis called "The Obama-Drama", then kindly stfu about internet issues. kthnxbai.

[IDeadWork]

One sentence of my post was about internet issues. I'm more opposed to the penalties because there are VAST reasons as to why a player quits. Maybe they should have it so that if you're losing and you quit, you get penalized. Just something, because this just isn't right. I'd have to put in work to earn 4500 XP. And if I have to get somewhere in a rush, I don't wanna have to do it all over just because I turned my console off in the middle of a match.

I faced that scenario alot, on Black Ops for example, or Madden 12 (got 20% DNF because this guy wanted to keep rushing in the 3rd and trying to stall the clock, i had 10 minutes before I had to BE AT work...)

if you have somewhere to go...you shouldnt start a game...if it is an emergency, well then obviously its more important then the game...either way thats a small percentage of why people leave.

if 1 person has an emergency and 100,000 quit for stats then you have to go with numbers...cant start making rules around the rare case that a random person has an emergency...youll earn the xp back if its that serious.

its a ranked match...ppl shouldnt be able to come and go as they please.

[Slaughterize]

I Should play what the hell I feel like playing, because I spent my hard earned money to do so. Who are you to judge? And once again, ONE sentence of my post was about internet issues. That's far from complaining, I was stating a opinion, sir.

EXACTLY I paid my hard earned money for the game, internet and xbox live, I start up my xbox put in gears of war, load up a match to see shaunownz on my team and then he says oh crap I have to go to work, bye! Guess what you just ruined my whole game experience for the next 15+ minutes, YOUR wasting my MONEY do you see where this argument doesn't work?

[ShaunOwnz]

EXACTLY I paid my hard earned money for the game, internet and xbox live, I start up my xbox put in gears of war, load up a match to see shaunownz on my team and then he says oh crap I have to go to work, bye! Guess what you just ruined my whole game experience for the next 15+ minutes, YOUR wasting my MONEY do you see where this argument doesn't work?

I would see your point if you saw mine. But until then, I'm Ray Charles to the bulls*it.

[Slaughterize]

I would see your point if you saw mine. But until then, I'm Ray Charles to the bulls*it.

Gears of war was set up to play 5 on 5 correct, but by your standards one match should be 3vs5 and the next 2v4, and so on if you don't punish people for ruining the game for others no one would have any fun.

[ShaunOwnz]

if you have somewhere to go...you shouldnt start a game...if it is an emergency, well then obviously its more important then the game...either way thats a small percentage of why people leave.

if 1 person has an emergency and 100,000 quit for stats then you have to go with numbers...cant start making rules around the rare case that a random person has an emergency...youll earn the xp back if its that serious.

its a ranked match...ppl shouldnt be able to come and go as they please.

In the days of lag switching (and trust me, there will be more in Gears 3) you never quit?

There's not one person responding to this topic right now that can honestly say they've never quit a ranked match, doesn't matter the circumstances, we're not gonna get into that. My point is, stop being a hypocrite. The penalty is unfair and outrageous. Only way I would be able to cope with that, is if it's easy as hell to get XP online. (without boosting).

[Jwithouttheua]

I mean, if people want to quit, let them. The match will still go on, and you can always look at how many disconnects they have and just laugh. I cannot wait to see all the ridiculous k/d's that have tons of disconnects. I understand if you have a few, that is fine, but watch the kids with hundreds. That truly will be funny

[Slaughterize]

In the days of lag switching (and trust me, there will be more in Gears 3) you never quit?

There's not one person responding to this topic right now that can honestly say they've never quit a ranked match, doesn't matter the circumstances, we're not gonna get into that. My point is, stop being a hypocrite. The penalty is unfair and outrageous. Only way I would be able to cope with that, is if it's easy as hell to get XP online. (without boosting).

Yes there will be lagswitching on a game where no player in the lobby is host sorry but you're wrong. You can ping a server but that would just lag you out as well, you can't lag it to only benefit you.

[ShaunOwnz]

Gears of war was set up to play 5 on 5 correct, but by your standards one match should be 3vs5 and the next 2v4, and so on if you don't punish people for ruining the game for others no one would have any fun.

Putting words into my mouth eh? I don't think it's a punishment. It's an excuse for more people to do the cheap crap and exploit just like in Gears 1 and 2. I've been playing since Day 1, and still play Gears 2. I tell you, the penalties are a joke and a major reason to cause boosting. Watch and see sir, watch and see.

[Shockwave IIC]

I get the feeling it is more about the XP penalty than 0 Kills +1 Death.

[ShaunOwnz]

Yes there will be lagswitching on a game where no player in the lobby is host sorry but you're wrong. You can ping a server but that would just lag you out as well, you can't lag it to only benefit you.

Hmmm, no host? Do tell, my good sir, do tell. I need to get more info on this since you know so much. My head has been in the Algebra books and with annoying customers, so I wouldn't know.

[IDeadWork]

there are VAST reasons as to why a player quits.

i challenge you to pop in your gears of war 1 disk...play it for an hour and tell me how many matches you finish...i have played gears 1 since 06 and the quitting was ridiculous...even now, ive been playing gears 1 for the last 4 days alot...i have not finished A SINGLE MATCH ... i repeat not a SINGLE MATCH without someone quitting.

these ppl do not have emergencies or things to do...they dont even have internet issues...they are mad that you lancer them down...or missed a headshot and actived them down, or picked up sniper before them,...

in gears 2 the xp penalty and the loss that was factored in not being able to save stats changed the quitting dramatically...(all of a sudden no more emergencies or intenet issues hmmm) still ppl found ways around it eg; quitting before the match starts, quitting on host if they are up 1-0 for the auto win...quitting when tied so they dont get a loss

they NEED strict rule on quitting because people ABUSE it...now if you are the FEW ppl that legitemately must go to work or leave for real reasons...im sorry, but your collateral damage because of the other morons in the community that abuse quitting out for every reason but a good one.

you are not the majority. the majority are trying to boost stats or are Raging...period.

[ShaunOwnz]

I get the feeling it is more about the XP penalty than 0 Kills +1 Death.

With XP comes upgrade/unlockables etc, things to make it more fun. I've never been the kind to worry about my K/D spread, unless I'm with my clan mates, who always push harder in a match.

[ShaunOwnz]

I refuse to argue. I proved my point, you proved yours. I tip my Stetson to you in a good war of words.
Now, the info on the Servers please?

[Slaughterize]

hmmm, no host? Do tell, my good sir, do tell. I need to get more info on this since you know so much. My head has been in the algebra books and with annoying customers, so i wouldn't know.

dedicated servers = no host

[Mr Biron]

I'll only be playing social and private games so a quitting penalty won't affect me.
The quitting penalty is the exact reason why I won't play ranked. If something comes up so I have to quit,or I lose connection for some reason,then I don't like being punished for it.

[ShaunOwnz]

dedicated servers = no host

-_- My question, in detail, when was this announced that there will be a dedicated server? For the most part, I pre-ordered my game and that's all. As you can see, from my miniscule amount of posts, that I haven't really been reading about all the specs of the game in and out.