Would you like a TRUE Capture the Flag game type? Over 1,300 Supporters!!!!

**aweZm** · 03-03-2012, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by the_suicide_fox

I still stand by what I have said before that CTF would just not function in Gears gameplay. Maps are too small, spawns are too easy to camp, and flag carriers would make captures much too easily on some maps.

However, I think a more reasonable solution would be to make CTL more like CTF. CTL works in Gears gameplay because it allows for moving spawns and all. One suggestion I made elsewhere was to reduce capture time in CTL to 10 seconds, but then require 3 captures to win the round. After a capture, leader's neck is auto-snapped and leader respawns like normal players. It would not only balance CTL more but make it a true Gears version of CTF.

The two things you listed as reasons why it wouldn't work are reasons that you could extrapolate to any objective game and even TDM and Warzone/Exe. The third is an issue of balancing flag-carrier attributes, score limits, and time limits.

CTL doesn't work in Gears gameplay at all, as evidenced by the microscopic player count. Those are good suggestions for that gametype, but it definitely wouldn't replace CTF or make it anywhere close to CTF.

**Master Roshi** · 03-03-2012, 07:46 PM

Yah! And then bring a Search and Destroy gametype too!

No, I'm kidding. I would like this idea. Replace CTL with CTF!

**MAKKAVELLI** · 03-03-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Master Roshi

Yah! And then bring a Search and Destroy gametype too!

No, I'm kidding. I would like this idea. Replace CTL with CTF!

lol, if a game screams teamwork and another mode screams it, why not wed them? Do you see what i'm saying here? CTF is all about teamwork and gears breathes, eats and sleeps teamwork. Search and Destroy is the only mode in COD that requires using most of your skills, afterall you only get one life, but we have warzone/execution, but if we had a bomb gametype it would be fun, the more teamwork based modes the merrier.

**Master Roshi** · 03-03-2012, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by MAKKAVELLI

lol, if a game screams teamwork and another mode screams it, why not wed them? Do you see what i'm saying here? CTF is all about teamwork and gears breathes, eats and sleeps teamwork. Search and Destroy is the only mode in COD that requires using most of your skills, afterall you only get one life, but we have warzone/execution, but if we had a bomb gametype it would be fun, the more teamwork based modes the merrier.

First sentence was sarcastic, second was serious. I think you're confused as to what I was saying.

**MAKKAVELLI** · 03-03-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Master Roshi

First sentence was sarcastic, second was serious. I think you're confused as to what I was saying.

No not really i got your sarcasm, but my post was actually for everyonne who disagrees with this thread.

**MAKKAVELLI** · 03-03-2012, 08:56 PM

Keep supporting and bumping people.

**the_suicide_fox** · 03-03-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by aweZm

The two things you listed as reasons why it wouldn't work are reasons that you could extrapolate to any objective game and even TDM and Warzone/Exe. The third is an issue of balancing flag-carrier attributes, score limits, and time limits.

CTL doesn't work in Gears gameplay at all, as evidenced by the microscopic player count. Those are good suggestions for that gametype, but it definitely wouldn't replace CTF or make it anywhere close to CTF.

The spawn system in Gears would not work well with classic CTF rules because CTF assigns 'sides' of the map. None of the maps allow for this type of gameplay, and even though WZ/EX sort of have sides they aren't important to winning the game. In CTF controlling your or your enemies side is very important. Spawn camping would run rampant in this mode since it would be nearly impossible to escape especially considering the game can't spawn you too close to the other side, and even Wingman spawns are too close/too far to be fair. Maps are much too small, with too few ways to move around quickly, to allow for this type of gameplay. CTL, on the other hand, does not assign 'sides' of the map to either team. Allowing the flag to move about works better in Gears gameplay with Gears maps because now the fight can take place anywhere and not your side or my side.

Quite honestly, CTL is broken in its current state for sure. But it has plenty of potential to be the Gears version of CTF, if Epic were to only address the few glaring flaws and make it so single small mistakes do not so frequently cost players the match. I would much prefer that to a new mode. CTL could have been better than Gears 1 Execution or Gears 2 Guardian, but Epic botched it in a few key areas (though they are giving us Guardian back so w/e). If they fix them a classic CTF mode would be obsolete.

**aweZm** · 03-03-2012, 10:19 PM

I can't see how it would be impossible to escape spawns or that spawn camping would run rampant. The goal is of course capturing the enemy flag while defending your own. If the enemy team is setting up a coordinated spawn camp, then they aren't accomplishing anything. If they send one to run the flag, that is one less camping the spawn. If you get one person out, you have an uncontested run to their flag.

The teams capable of spawn camping would probably the ones running a coordinated offense/defense and making quick caps. I just don't feel there would be as much incentive to spawn camp as there is in TDM etc.

I know that the maps aren't truly designed as CTF maps, but they are also all symmetrical for the most part and that is really the most important part.

**Porshapwr** · 03-04-2012, 03:02 PM

Just took my kids to see The Lorax.

Random info of the day resulting in a bump.

**Fupaz** · 03-04-2012, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by MAKKAVELLI

Lol i don't use twitter, neither do i know how to bro, but i put this in my sig, whenever i post it should get some people visiting here, fupaz you can put it in your sig too if you wish.

Again, I'm pretty new, so what's a sig?

**Fupaz** · 03-04-2012, 05:20 PM

Almost 860 supporters guys!!
Keep Bumping!!

**Fupaz** · 03-04-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Porshapwr

Mak/Fup - if you really want to get Epics attention to this, the two guys at Epic who are in charge of the day to day with Gears 3 are Pete and Quinn. I believe it's like Quinn Del Hoyo and PeteNub or something. Look for them on Twitter and tweet to them about this thread.

Will do. Think they'll actually take a look though?

**Marilynm615** · 03-04-2012, 06:36 PM

Yup, it would be amazing to try something new.

**PapiChuloCobb** · 03-04-2012, 06:42 PM

I would be interested in trying it out. Hard to really imagine something like this would just now be added into the game though.

**Fupaz** · 03-04-2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by MAKKAVELLI

Your Sig is your personal comment or whatever, my Sig is the "support a true CTF gametype" and this threads link. You already have the CTF thread as your Sig already.

Gotcha....Thanks

**Predalian5** · 03-05-2012, 01:47 AM

Hell yeah. I would love to see this in the game.

**Marilynm615** · 03-05-2012, 04:34 AM

Bump for CTF in gears 3.

**The Nice Guy** · 03-05-2012, 05:11 AM

CTF would really make for just a nice, enjoyable gametype. I support this 100%

**Porshapwr** · 03-05-2012, 06:25 AM

Man, the voters are piling on. Love it!

**Porshapwr** · 03-05-2012, 11:08 AM

Sunday is the true start of the week in terms of time.

Yep.

**Fupaz** · 03-05-2012, 05:37 PM

Keep voting! Nearly 900 voters! Hopefully we can get to 1,000. That would be great. Bump for this, lol.

**Fupaz** · 03-05-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by MAKKAVELLI

Most definetly we can get 900, by the way man have you tweeted one of the guys from Epic to view this thread? But I guess they've seen this and are observing lol.

I have been, still am trying to get them to notice my tweet though, after all I'm sure they get a lot of tweets from other people.

**Jonez0wnz** · 03-05-2012, 07:15 PM

I voted when this thread was fisrt made, but is it even possible for Epic to make a whole gametype? They can't even make medals the way they'd like.

**Jonez0wnz** · 03-05-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by MAKKAVELLI

Forget medals, we just want this for fun, i play for fun not medals, medals are a by product, but nice.

My point is if they can't fix something as small as medals how can I expect them to make something as big as a gametype.

**Fupaz** · 03-05-2012, 08:09 PM

I know that epic has it in them to make a CTF game mode. Btw, i tweeted to both people on twitter. I cant send a direct message to them because they aren't following me, and I doubt tat they'll follow me. So it might be hard for me to get there attention JUST on twitter. You guys know any other way to contact them rather than twitter or Facebook? I will do anything I can to contact them.

**Fupaz** · 03-05-2012, 11:35 PM

Shotty snipers should be the name of it. What are they tweaking with the frag grenade?

**Jonez0wnz** · 03-05-2012, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by Fupaz

Shotty snipers should be the name of it. What are they tweaking with the frag grenade?

Shotguns and Snipers playlist, semi-auto longshot, gnasher, 1 tweaked frag. Tweaked frag has smaller damage radius, doesn't proximity explode

http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...FEED-March-5th

**Fupaz** · 03-05-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jonez0wnz

http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...FEED-March-5th

Nice, definitely something I'm gonna be into.

**Porshapwr** · 03-06-2012, 06:18 AM

Morning fellas.

**Fupaz** · 03-06-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Porshapwr

Morning fellas.

hate mornings

**Porshapwr** · 03-06-2012, 03:59 PM

Was up at 4:30am this morning. By time I simply got to work, I had already been up for 4 hours.

**Fupaz** · 03-06-2012, 05:50 PM

Porshapwr: why is sunday so important? And what are you talking about the true start of the week in terms of time?

**Fupaz** · 03-06-2012, 10:38 PM

Come in guys keep BUMPING this thread! 870 supporters!

**Porshapwr** · 03-07-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Fupaz

Porshapwr: why is sunday so important? And what are you talking about the true start of the week in terms of time?

Just a BS post to bump this thread. Shhhhhhhh

**Fupaz** · 03-07-2012, 08:07 AM

Gotcha, lol

**ONYXGEAR** · 03-07-2012, 08:19 AM

This is actually good, I would love this for gears but the game has been out for a while do you think Epic will consider this?

**Vbfslayer** · 03-07-2012, 10:11 AM

I would love a ctf game type, but I don't agree that the person with the flag can't shoot, that would be like the leader in guardian can't shoot. Let them defend themselves. My favorite ctf ever was quake 2, granted the grapple helped as did the tech power ups, but you have to allow them to defend themselves. Even when grabbing the flag, do you roadie run away which is faster, or do you kill off anyone trying to kill you? I vote yes on a ctf game type, but I hate the idea of not being able to fight back at all, it's why I dont play a lot of newer ctf games since they also adopted that idea.