Veteran Gear Unlock Update

[Tesco Jeans]

Great so now I can't unlock the golden gnasher thanks epic now I am totally screwed over.

How are you totally screwed over? You still have all of the weekends up until the release of Gears 3 to get it because there are experience events from now every weekend until Sept 20th.

[AlienShogun]

Great so now I can't unlock the golden gnasher thanks epic now I am totally screwed over.

Seems like a lot of people may have glitched to get their wings.

I'm starting to notice an emerging trend of people who were "fine with how it was" in that massive thread.

How are you totally screwed over? You still have all of the weekends up until the release of Gears 3 to get it because there are experience events from now every weekend until Sept 20th.

Because he's another no timestamp guy.

[Mishibishi Swag]

The problem is you could have (and most people like you probably DID) glitch your wings/achievement.

but they would of had their achievements take away by now, due to microsofts huge crackdown, thus taking away all of the glitchers gold gnashers

[peddro]

obviously.
you would rather have gold weapons than a visit to epic studios for a day

he would rather have the gold weapons than eat for the next six weeks, even if everyone else has them too, rendering them worthless.

[Nothin2Flashy]

nobody would be happy with reaching level 100 in gears 3 and getting the liquid skins?

[Tesco Jeans]

Because he's another no timestamp guy.

In that case, I offer my condolences.

[AlienShogun]

but they would of had their achievements take away by now, due to microsofts huge crackdown, thus taking away all of the glitchers gold gnashers

Lol, no they wouldn't have. That's for account hacking.

[Onyx Guarrd]

wish we had an answer for the EE as well

[LadyKagura]

Omg!!!! Thank you Epic for listening!! Now I can feel good that me and the other VGs out there have some exclusivity now. Yea!!!!

[IloveGearsandEpic]

So are these locked in now for sure

[spartain ken 15]

That is nice but I am surprised Epic didn't make the S/O a week one unlock instead of the Gold Lancer/hammy. :/

But, oh well...

[DynomiteDobson8]

I still think the golden retro lancer should be beta exclusive. I worked hard on that..

[xPOORGUYx]

nobody would be happy with reaching level 100 in gears 3 and getting the liquid skins?

considering how much they hyped VG i was expecting something cool like LM to be the VG unlock.
so for gears 3 100 i expect better.but it will probably just be onyx guard

[Da-bomber]

I still don't think the week 1 unlock should exist.

[Schwarzeis]

nobody would be happy with reaching level 100 in gears 3 and getting the liquid skins?

To be honest, I don't see why people like the Liquid Metal skins so much, but everyone has different taste, no?

If this was the 100 unlock I wouldn't really give a damn, but for 100 I would expect a character or two rather than a skin

[spartain ken 15]

I still think the golden retro lancer should be beta exclusive. I worked hard on that..

Well, it won't be too, too common.

But now I want an answer to the EE IO skins.

[Mishibishi Swag]

Lol, no they wouldn't have. That's for account hacking.

they would, a friend of mine had all his achievements taken away for glitching achievements, and a guy who i played against in gears a couple of years ago who was offering in the lobby to glitch level 100 for people, i played him a couple of days after and he had his gamerscore reset

[injek]

Well, it's not perfect (would've preferred the Lancer / HB not given out), but it's still very, very good. Thank you, Epic! <3

I was starting to get afraid that you guys wouldn't reconsider it.

[spartain ken 15]

I still don't think the week 1 unlock should exist.

No, I think it should exist but you shouldn't get a Gold hammy/lancer for it.

I mean letting VGs have the Gold Lancer/Hammy was fine but letting everyone have it week 1, ehhh no.

I think the rifles should be traded off with the S/O for week 1 unlock.

[xPOORGUYx]

To be honest, I don't see why people like the Liquid Metal skins so much, but everyone has different taste, no?

If this was the 100 unlock I wouldn't really give a damn, but for 100 I would expect a character or two rather than a skin

i like it because it something that i have never seen before in another game.
its very creative and original

[AlienShogun]

they would, a friend of mine had all his achievements taken away for glitching achievements, and a guy who i played against in gears a couple of years ago who was offering in the lobby to glitch level 100 for people, i played him a couple of days after and he had his gamerscore reset

That's different than one guy doing it himself. Those guys got caught selling/glitching multiple achievements.

I highly doubt anyone here complaining about not having a timestamp got their 100 legit.

Sorry, but the internet is full of liars and especially with how most/all of them were acting in the last thread. I'm glad they are going to be left standing with their hand out, empty.

[spartain ken 15]

Well, it's not perfect (would've preferred the Lancer / Gnasher not given out, but it's still very, very good. Thank you, Epic! <3

I was starting to get afraid that you guys wouldn't reconsider it.

The Gnasher as an exclusive was a good idea, as for the rifles, ehh...

I am okay with that TBH.

[razrbak312]

The problem is you could have (and most people like you probably DID) glitch your wings/achievement.

Even those people that do have glitched achievements, some of them didn't even mean to glitch. Glitched lobbies where popping up everywhere at one point in time. I'm one of the those people that are now screwed out of any VG rewards in Gears 3

[Dan2102]

I suppose it's nice to have something exclusive. I'll probably end up using the flaming skins come release anyways.

[captain ped]

Right, since i just recieved a message telling me i was being a bit of an irate idiot, im going to write this post and make a simple request, please take the time to read my full post first, since i am not just speaking on my behalf, but on behalf of quite a few people who are getting screwed over due to recent revelations, anyway now ill make my point :

Please may we have the whole Timestamp/No Timestamp debacle sorted, my suggestion is that you make the golden gnasher available to EVERYBODY with the Veteran Gear Achievement, my reasons for this are :

1) there are many people, including myself, that have Veteran Gear without a timestamp due to circumstances out of our own control i.e in my case my internet was down and my cousin bought his memory stick round my house with his profile on and we was planning on playing split screen on various different games, we booted up Gears of war 2 planning on doing some horde, and when we started it up, i recieved the level 50 and the Veteran Gear achievements, with no timestamp. Anyway, with the amount of cracking down microsoft is doing now on achievement glitchers ( ive seen various amounts of people on my friends list and in random games with 0G now ) the glitchers achievements will all be taken away, meaning that they will not recieve a Golden Gnasher, the other way this also works is, if i had glitched my achievements, i would have 0G right now and have had all my gamerscore taken, but as of the time making this thread i have 51050, now with the exception of the achievements mentioned above, and a few on a couple of other games when my internet has been down ( crappy Virgin Media ) ALL of my achievements have timestamps, so i clearly havent glitched my achievements. Meaning that i should have been able to get the achievement with a timestamp but wasnt able to due to reasons beyond my control.

2) The few of us who this has happened to, will still feel appreciated by EPIC, like we did when we were told that we would be able to get the Gnasher without veteran gear, but then had that ripped away from us, because just because i dont have the Veteran Gear without a timestamp doesnt mean i am not a veteran gear, i have had both games since release day, i have all the books and comics, i have the replica retro, im planning on getting the EE and Console, and i also have a gears tattoo, i love this game, i always have done, and to be honest i dont find it fair that i cant get a Golden Gnasher ( a gun ive been waiting for since golden skins were announced for Gears 2 ) for such a trivial reason.

Thank you for taking the time to read this post, and please help and support us Loyal fans who love Gears get a truly awesome piece of in game content.

and a message to everybody who already has the Veteran Gear Achievement with a timestamp and their Golden Gnasher,Please have respect for those of us who Love Gears just as much as you do and dont say that we shouldnt get anything.

Thank you, zGreeNArroWz

I can understand your pain I have got timestamps n most of mine except story as I play that offline. I dont see why every VG cant get the gnasher if it a case of hacks then epic can scan EXP sorry to hear about your situation it is unfair

[Fl4m3rX]

It's the first time I am stating my opinion in this forum on the matter.
I was shocked, to say the least, when I heard about the unlocks on the live stream.

Now I want to thank EPIC for rethinking their decision about the Golden Gnasher. It wasn't about a weapon skin, it was about what this weapon skin stands for. We, the veterans, who played this game to the limits (Hell, I've gathered XP that is enough to fill my rank 100 bar more than 4 times and there are some who have even more) asked for it so long ago and so many times. Even Rod said the Gnasher is a symbol for every Veteran Gear. That said, I didn't understand why they would give away the very symbol of any skilled player to two million players once the game ships.

The worst is fixed, but it is still about symbols. And this guy here has to get a call out for his work on the post.

QFT, even if it's damn long!

I still don't understand why Veteran Gear gives access to all the gold weapon skins? Realistically, the weapon skins should inform me of your story, not make it less interesting.

It's like when someone plays as Raam in Gears of War 2 online. You know they beat Raam in the first Gears of War on at least Hardcore. The same applies to the unlocks of Lt. Kim or A. Carmine. And when I would play and see someone with a Gold Lancer I believed them to be dedicated to the series because they either bought the Limited Edition, or won it from an Epic contest. In either case, their loyalty was reflected by their weapon skin.

When I saw a Gold Hammerburst during competitive or Horde, I would literally watch that player for a bit. Regardless of a Midnight Madness or contest give out, I knew that the extreme rarity of that skin meant significance to the dedication a player had to the game. Likewise, when you see players with Rank 100 still playing the multiplayer it impacts you that they enjoy the game that much to continue playing at peak rank. Rather than riding a Brumak to hit Seriously 2.0, some people would still rather play competitive or Horde modes, and the rank and gold weapons reflect a mutual appreciation between gamer and game developer.

I know that sounds stupid and simple, but obviously the games that try to reward community and legacy are the ones that resonate more with the gaming audience. Halo, Uncharted, and Gears are three very big games that reward their fans with legacy unlocks, saying thank you for having played their previous titles. It seriously is appreciated to know that the developers value our loyalty by making a special unlock that other gamers can see, and it tells a story about us -the gamer- without having to even vocalize it. You know who played what games, or what edition they own by certain unlocks; flaming orange helmet [Halo], custom gold weapons [Gears], or even a special baseball outfit [Uncharted]. This stands out, and makes other players notice, even envy, the exclusives. And, from a business stand point, it encourages new players to go back to previous entries in the series, if only for the "sweet" unlocks.

This is where I'm confused, though. I did not go to the Midnight release of Gears of War 2. I do not own the Limited Edition of either game. I won a Gold Hammerburst from a competition just the other weekend, and seriously could not believe that I had been lucky enough to win not only an exclusive weapon skin for Gears of War 2, but also Gears of War 3 by legacy unlock. Now I find out it's completely worthless, as any person who plays the first week gets access to these exclusive gold weapons. What an insult. Seriously.

Any one who follows this site, or even the twitter pages, sees how much people desire the gold weapons. It's a way to present that you are a part of an elite fan base. Naturally, there are people who enjoy the Gears of War games but lack the gold skins, but this is just one extra wink at those who bought the limited edition of the game, stood in line opening night, follow the forums, or just stalk twitter. People on the site congratulate the winners, while envying their win and hoping for the chance to win next time to brandish the gold weapons, presenting loyalty to Epic and the community. But now, it's simply for putting the disc into your Xbox 360 for a few seconds during opening week.

There should be no giveaway the first week. If nothing else, the pre-order skins are the exclusives for that week. I don't understand why giving away two gold weapons, highly sought after, seems like such a great idea, as it insults your loyals, and rewards the casuals. This is becoming a defined issue this generation; it feels like loyal gamers are somehow being placed aside in hopes of capturing casuals for a grasp at money. I understand it's business, but I don't understand the point in giving away such an exclusive weapon skin to anyone with the game the first week.

I feel insulted for playing the Beta, and earning the Gold Retro. The entire point of special unlocks is to make the people you play with look at your exclusives and be jealous. That's the idea of it. "I played the beta. I bought Bulletstorm, and was able to get into the Beta and unlock this gold Retro Lancer." Fellow gamers are supposed to look at that and envy my Gold next to their standard Retro Lancer, or Crimson Omen skin, or Infected Omen. That's the idea. It tells a random gamer all about my loyalty in only a glimpse.

It's the same reason I feel sympathy towards people who were buying the Epic Edition or Console. While I truly hope they weren't putting over $100s of dollars simply for DLC skins, those Infected Omen skins were supposed to be symbolic. I could play a game of Horde, and look at a teammate and know they bought either the Epic or Console Edition. It could provoke me to ask them about it. This conversation helps reinforce the comradery the Gears Community has - the subtitled "brothers to the end."

Now, with both the Controller and Limited Edition getting the Infected Omen weapon skins, there's nothing to distinguish yourself as someone who spent more on the game. I hate posting it that way, as I wish there was another way of putting it, but from a business/consumer relationship, you know that that's the point of the Infected Omen skins. Visual representation of who spent more on the game.

I'm grateful you removed the Gold Gnasher unlock for people who played during the first week. I know it's insignificant, merely a weapon skin, but what it represents to the community is why it's so important. That's why I don't understand why Veteran Gears gets the unlock for all gold skins.

If I'm playing social Horde 2.0, which I most definitely will be playing the most, I'll know who is a Veteran Gear by their Gold Gnasher. The title will not exist, since it's social, so that's how it is reflected to the community. Giving them all gold weapons skins removes the other Gold value, though.

I beat Gears of War on Insane. I'll proudly display the Gold Sawed Off Shotgun. Even if no one else cares, I'll be glad to know that my playing through the first game is still appreciated by Epic. Again, I played in the Gears of War 3 Beta. I truly bought Bulletstorm's Epic Edition exclusively for the Beta. And, being more blunt, I didn't enjoy Bulletstorm, but I thoroughly enjoyed the Beta. It made me wish the game would have released in April so that the wait would be so much less.

I won a Gold Hammerburst, and I couldn't believe the luck of it. Almost a week later, I find out the win is meaningless, as every player will have it, at least during the first week. And I was lucky enough to unlock Veteran Gear. It makes sense to have it be a Gold Gnasher; a symbolic weapon that has been through the entire game series. But that should be the only unlock for Veteran Gear.

I know nothing will change. It's probably too late to address this so close to game release. But I am truly disappointed. The correction of the Gold Gnasher giveaway was good news, but to read that not only are first week players getting two gold weapons, but two weapons that the community has competed to earn for almost 3 years is offensive. It's a lack of respect. I can't believe I just typed that, but I mean it.

Epic has their own special weapons, that only they have access to. They have the other VIP skins. And then there is the gold weapon skins. It felt like the gold skins were a real thank you for past loyalty, and that the VIP skins were going to be a reward for challenges in the new game, for more loyal gamers. But now it's an insulting presentation. It means little. Or, really, it just represent consumerism. I'll see Gold Lancers and Hammerbursts, and feel like the others. I'm a sucker who bought it during the first week. That's all it represents. Nothing more.

[spartain ken 15]

Even those people that do have glitched achievements, some of them didn't even mean to glitch. Glitched lobbies where popping up everywhere at one point in time. I'm one of the those people that are now screwed out of any VG rewards in Gears 3

That sucks, well at least you can get a Gold Lancer.

[Mishibishi Swag]

That's different than one guy doing it himself. Those guys got caught selling/glitching multiple achievements.

I highly doubt anyone here complaining about not having a timestamp got their 100 legit.

Sorry, but the internet is full of liars and especially with how most/all of them were acting in the last thread. I'm glad they are going to be left standing with their hand out, empty.

the internet is also full of ignorant selfish people like you, how is fair that i dont get a golden gnasher just because gears 2 was broken?

[jjboy97]

yeeehaahhhhh !!!!!!!!!! <3 this so much and im not even a vet yet

[G4M3R GUY]

Like I said to someone earlier you can join my club.

I know this sucks completely for me. I figured I wouldn't get the veteran unlock because of my achievement being messed up, but was alright because I could still get my gold set through everything else you do now. This is unfair I have can't get the Gnasher in any way now. If you are changing this I DEMAND the time stamp issue be taken off the requirement list. You are practically handing it out with the exp events. I have lost lots of things to you guys lately many things that were exclusive, but I same back and said fine, but I am not losing a unlock because of it. You think your making this right for the Veterans now you are screwing over a larger population that isn't on the forums.

[AlienShogun]

Even those people that do have glitched achievements, some of them didn't even mean to glitch. Glitched lobbies where popping up everywhere at one point in time. I'm one of the those people that are now screwed out of any VG rewards in Gears 3

Like I said, I don't believe any of you.

Any one of you would make up some sob story right now in order to get what you screwed yourselves out of.

Perhaps the lot of you should contact microsoft and ask to have your achievement reset or some such thing.

But as far as I'm concerned. Good.

[spartain ken 15]

the internet is also full of ignorant selfish people like you, how is fair that i dont get a golden gnasher just because gears 2 was broken?

Yeah, GOW2 MM is really laggy sometimes if the host has a bad connection.

[jjboy97]

the internet is also full of ignorant selfish people like you, how is fair that i dont get a golden gnasher just because gears 2 was broken?

it is fair you need to stop being ignorant and play the game and if u wwere a true gear you would see past the bulls**t in the game

[AlienShogun]

the internet is also full of ignorant selfish people like you, how is fair that i dont get a golden gnasher just because gears 2 was broken?

Ignorant?

I'm informed.

Selfish? Hardly, and nothing here is showing that I'm selfish.

You need to brush up on your vocabulary son.

What I am is untrusting (I'm not naive) and observant.

[Schwarzeis]

i like it because it something that i have never seen before in another game.
its very creative and original

I know it's something different, I didn't expect Gold as the reward for Veteran Gear either, but this is apparantly what they wanted to give out, and I am quite pleased with it, but yes.. This is not what was expected by the majority

But new stuff is not always good, I think the Liquid Metal skin looks pretty bad, meanwhile in the other boat you love it, which is good! Will bring more diversity to the multiplayer

The Gnasher as an exclusive was a good idea, as for the rifles, ehh...

I am okay with that TBH.

Yes, now that we got a noticable exclusive I'm happy, we were promised one and now we got it

But I do wanna know why they have to give out something for the first week, I don't mind it, but I wanna know why they keep going back on their exclusive and only way statements - they said the only way to get them in Gears 3 was to have them in Gears 2, but now everyone will get it for putting in the disc

I don't mind, but I do wish to know why they went back on it

[c0rps3f4ctory]

damn epic you know how to make my day

[spartain ken 15]

I really like this but should the Gold Lancer/Hammy be a week 1 unlock?

I mean, replace the Lancer/Hammy with the Sawed of shotgun and it will be awesome.

I mean, letting VGs have it is fine but when you give out both the rifles gold in first week, ehh....

It is just okay.

[Da-bomber]

Keep the timestamp on as then all the glitchers would get it.

[J0RD]

To encourage new players to venture online

Hmmmm, I doubt it would make much difference as most new people won't even know it, the majority of casuals don't check out news from games and such, they just buy it.

[xPOORGUYx]

I really like this but should the Gold Lancer/Hammy be a week 1 unlock?

I mean, replace the Lancer/Hammy with the Sawed of shotgun and it will be awesome.

I mean, letting VGs have it is fine but when you give out both the rifles gold in first week, ehh....

It is just okay.

you asked for the gold lancer/HB and you got them.
ask and you shall receive