Thread: DM-Malevolence [v0.9][pics][Beta 4]

Downloading...

Just played it. Amazing jump over Beta 1. This is sooo close to being a perfect Malev! I know you are probably already onto most of this stuff but here goes:

Here's some of my notes:
1) The ships going over are cool but they are too loud, not random and too short of an interval. They are a bit distracting at the moment.
2) Skydome mesh centerpoint is visible when looking up in certain positions.
3) Would be nice to have moving clouds.
4) I'm still hanging up on curved wall near Rocket Launcher. I'm sure you will put blocking vols in there and around the door like you did elsewhere.
5) Did the original have the amp or the gold belt by the elevator? Thought it was an amp.
6) Water area needs to be darker and danker looking. Also maybe some drains and dirt/moss underneath water.
7) Mentioned before but those dark color bricks are really low res!
8) Floor material below gold belt has alignment probs
9) Elevator mesh is really dark. Light Environment may fix that?
10) Since you have dust cones elsewhere, maybe dust cones on the floor lights near the water valve in the flak cannon room.

Thanks for all of your hard work!!!!!

yup...this map is so true;as immersive as ut99 itself

music sounds & textures are nice;especially the wood boards one

my only complaint is the collision with thoses vertical "trims" it slow and break the gameflow and as mentionned before the briks seem low textured if u paste ur noze on walls



thx for that top notch map...will install on our server as soon as final

Here's some of my notes:

Originally Posted by M^vL

1) The ships going over are cool but they are too loud, not random and too short of an interval. They are a bit distracting at the moment.

Too loud? Wow I must be deaf. I could hardly hear them in testing. Yes right now they come every 10 seconds or so for testing. they will pass every couple of minutes on final

Originally Posted by M^vL

2) Skydome mesh centerpoint is visible when looking up in certain positions.

Because I changed the Sun's source "position" I also need to change the Skydome.

Originally Posted by M^vL

3) Would be nice to have moving clouds.

Will see what I can do.

Originally Posted by M^vL

4) I'm still hanging up on curved wall near Rocket Launcher. I'm sure you will put blocking vols in there and around the door like you did elsewhere.

Which side as you face the windows? left or right. There is a blocking volume there. at least on the left side anyway. There is not one on the right yet.

Originally Posted by M^vL

5) Did the original have the amp or the gold belt by the elevator? Thought it was an amp.

The original had the AMP but so few people in 1v1s use it. So I thought to use the shield belt would make that room more active

Originally Posted by M^vL

6) Water area needs to be darker and danker looking. Also maybe some drains and dirt/moss underneath water.

Yeah that water tunnel has been my bane. If you recall there are two lights under the water too. Am going to get everthing else done before I tackle that again.

Originally Posted by M^vL

7) Mentioned before but those dark color bricks are really low res!

The green ones on the in the water and in the flak room?

Originally Posted by M^vL

8) Floor material below gold belt has alignment probs

Will peek at that one.

Originally Posted by M^vL

9) Elevator mesh is really dark. Light Environment may fix that?

I believe it is unlit. but there are a couple of things I need to do with the elevator anyways so I'll fix that with them.

Originally Posted by M^vL

10) Since you have dust cones elsewhere, maybe dust cones on the floor lights near the water valve in the flak cannon room.

I was wondering which ones you meant but yes of course. They actually need new lighting anyway. Along with ALL of the orange lights. I've found a new way to do lighting and it kind of works (as seen by the blue wall lighting and the florescent ceiling lights).

Thanks for the list will get on that. If I get to it quick enough, I may have a beta 3 out before the final. Am expecting release for Christmas Eve.

Originally Posted by Bl!tz~

my only complaint is the collision with thoses vertical "trims" it slow and break the gameflow

really? will add a blocking volume around them

Originally Posted by Bl!tz~

as mentionned before the briks seem low textured if u paste ur noze on walls

Are you referring to the green walls? it is the original texture from Malevolence itself.

Originally Posted by Bl!tz~

thx for that top notch map...will install on our server as soon as final

Thanks for that :P

Originally Posted by Bl!tz~

I assume that is the green wall texture you refer to it.

Here's the new version of the flak room. What do you guys think? New Higher detailed wall.

yeah i was refering to the green wall texture but if it s imported from the old version it s not a surprise...i had same problems while trying to import ut99 textures...sad because quite all ut99 textures are nice.....from far

ur last pict looks good but as we cant get close to the wall we cant really tell...lol...the green wall was superb....but from far only

Am trying to decide which light is the best. Any that particularly jumps out?

pic 4 is good
but pic 2 is good too

Pic 4 is the way the map is currently. It's the closest resemblance to the original too however I want the lighting to feel "real"

I didn't had the time to play beta 0.5 but from the last posted pics since I see 2 lines (3 pics on the first line & 2 on the other one), what I like so far :

First line = third pic
Second line = second pic

On those pics, the mesh stand out more & there is more contrast. My screen is in 1680*1050 so it may be pics # 3 & 5 if all of them are on the same line.

Hey BB, we had fun playing this on the server tonight. Interesting that the ships flying over don't work online. I've had this problem many times and have found that if for certain animated events, if they are not driven by a matinee, it won't work online. I didn't check out your Kismet. I had to redo months of work on the Hangar because of that. Map played great tho!

In terms of getting hung up on the wall behind the rocket launcher, just slide along the wall on the right side (facing the windows) and right before the wall curves, there must a tiny bit of an BSP edge there.

Originally Posted by M^vL

Interesting that the ships flying over don't work online. I've had this problem many times and have found that if for certain animated events, if they are not driven by a matinee, it won't work online. I didn't check out your Kismet. I had to redo months of work on the Hangar because of that. Map played great tho!

The reason the ships don't play online is because it is configured not to run when running off a dedicated server. It is configured that way so the server can focus on things that matter EG: gameplay.

That was done intentionally If you want it to happen online it is an easy change.

Originally Posted by M^vL

In terms of getting hung up on the wall behind the rocket launcher, just slide along the wall on the right side (facing the windows) and right before the wall curves, there must a tiny bit of an BSP edge there.

Yeah thats what I thought. The right side didn't have the blocking volume on it in beta2. It does now though

Originally Posted by Barballs

The reason the ships don't play online is because it is configured not to run when running off a dedicated server. It is configured that way so the server can focus on things that matter EG: gameplay.

That was done intentionally If you want it to happen online it is an easy change.

Okay, you're way ahead of me!

Originally Posted by stevelois

I finally played beta 2 (0.5 version)

Things I notice against 5 bots :

- It seem to be to much action near the bio / stinger. Bots do cover all the map but this sector is where 80% the action take place. I found there is to much stuff on that sector. I didn't look at the map in the editor but maybe there is more playerstart in that part of the map ? It just that the map seem to be crowded there & it affect the gameplay badly.

heh I just got done playtesting it myself and noticed the same problem. I'll have to make the other items on the map feel more juicy to the bots so that they go elsewhere. I have noticed that the bots seem to ignore the elevator even though it works fine. I don't get it. Will have to look into the pathing.

Originally Posted by stevelois

- The material on the rocket launcher ceiling don't fit imo. Those tiles are seen on floors on every maps so the fact that I see them above my head is rather odd...

That is a mesh that is in the ceiling above is an actual ceiling mesh! :P Personally I haven't seen it in any other maps on the floors. But then again I've not played them all I chose that mesh because it is the closest mesh/material I could find that matched what was in the original.

Originally Posted by stevelois

- The spaceship sequence is cool but they pass to often & they make to much noise. It's cool the first time but it get repetitive after a while.

- As other point out, the brick wall material is very low detailed. It doesn't make the map justice.

Wall has been fixed. and spaceships will come every minute or so.


The plan

Upload Release Candidate 1/Beta 3 Tomorrow for Christmas to catch any last issues and make final after that.

Hope thats alright with everyone

Changes made thus far:

• New higher res green wall texture
• The preview picture included
• fixed floor material below shieldbelt
• Elevator lighting fixed
• Elevator pathing fixed
• New Supports for wood platforms
• Blocking volumes on curved walls by Rocket Launcher

Darn I will be away from my puter the next couple of days. It's lookin good though so I'm not too worried.

Originally Posted by stevelois

Just to mention that I was referring to the material on the ceiling, not the mesh Specifically those square tiles, not the beam.

hehe I know.

Those square tiles are meshes. and they are meant as ceiling tiles. (S_HU_Building_SM_TypeC_bottomrow_Ceilingtile)

There must be something wrong because if I compare the ceiling with your last pic in your first post it's not the same & I'm sure to had downloaded b2 & overwrite the old files.

I'll redownload just to be sure, it may be just that.

BTW, your readme is all messed up. Look like you made a html file & save it in TXT format ???

EDIT

Yep, I don't know how I've done that but it was B1 & not B2.

Great improvements. So you can forget the tiles on the ceiling comments. Still, the rest of my comments didn't change.

Keep up the great work dude

Beta 3 (RC1) is out now!

Changelist:

• Corrected low res green bricks
• Added preview picture
• Fixed Floor material below gold belt alignment probs
• Lit elevator Mesh
• Added dust cones on the floor lights valve in the flak cannon room.
• Corrected elevator for bots
• Changed support under wooden platforms.
• Changed door meshes in map to LOW_Detail to ensure visibility
• Corrected accidental static mesh off position
• Added blocking volume in bio tunnel for lights
• Added blocking volumes on curved walls
• Altered pathing to make bots navigate more of the map.
• Added blocking volume to curve on wall under link platform.
• Added 60 second delay for ship fly-by.

Still TODO:

• Pretty the water tunnel and remove placeholder lighting
• Clear up sky dome
• add ambient sounds
• Top secret item one (in water tunnel area)
• Top secret item two (vest area)

Indeed! Oh, you will notice that the blocking volume has been removed near the vest. I was testing that cheeky area you mentioned. I have a plan. If there's time I may just do a little something special

Originally Posted by stevelois

Great update !

Glad you like

Originally Posted by stevelois

you have a texture misalignment (the surface between the ceiling & the wall) in the Enforcer corridor.

That will indeed be covered in part of the water tunnel that while area is being taken care of.

Originally Posted by stevelois

this baby is going straight in my top picks

Why thank you

Originally Posted by stevelois

THX for the Enforcer credits (betatest is missing lol)

Corrected

Nice work I'll try out the beta three as I missed the second one.

Played some more tonight. It is playing really well now. Here's a couple more things I noticed.

1) On the archway entry to the water tunnel on the shock rifle side, the texture on the highest part of the arch is rotated 90 degrees from the other textures.
2) This one has been building on me the more I play it and it did pop into my head the first time I played it: The predominant metal floor texture (cross-hatch) seems scaled too large to be honest. It makes me feel like I'm closer to the ground. It's not a massive problem if you don't want to change it.

Can't wait to put the final on my server. It's gonna get heavy rotation I'm sure!

Got a bit more done today.

Upcoming RC2 Changelist to date:

• Added blocking volumes to all concave brushes where players frequently collide.
• Scaled thread plate material to 0.5 to make character feel further off the ground.

Originally Posted by Barballs

Got a bit more done today.

Upcoming RC2 Changelist to date:

• Added blocking volumes to all concave brushes where players frequently collide.
• Scaled thread plate material to 0.5 to make character feel further off the ground.

Great! Those will be excellent changes.

I've been a busy boy Some screens coming tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Barballs

I've been a busy boy Some screens coming tomorrow!

(10 chars)

Screens as promised! Happy New Years Folks! I'm Off to celebrate and don't plan to be too productive tomorrow! So, these will have to suffice for another day or so




Upcoming RC2 Changelist to date:

• Added blocking volumes to all concave brushes where players frequently collide.
• Scaled thread plate material to 0.5 to make character feel further off the ground.
• Added SM Wooden planks to on rap to water tunnel
• Added SM pipes details under the previously mentioned planks.(Broken pipe to act as water source)
• Corrected Mis-aligned textures in Water Tunnel
• Added underfoot lighting for water tunnel
• Messed about with UT Billboard (just coz)

Left To Do:

• Add Decals to water tunnel
• Add SM Drains to water Tunnel
• Change skydome
• Add water emitter to broken pipe
• Add ambient sounds
• NICETOHAVE: Add Cheaky Shock area
• NICETOHAVE: Moving clouds in Skybox

HOLPY New Year BB!

Great progress

THX for the new year pics & happy new year to you to Barballs

nice "waterlighting"

all the best for 2010

I'm pretty confident this will be the last beta. All of the remaining changes that I notice are cosmetic so barring any additional issues I'm confident the next release will be final

As Always I look forward to your feedback!

RC2 Changelist:

• Added blocking volumes to all concave brushes where players frequently collide.
• Scaled thread plate material to 0.5 to make character feel further off the ground.
• Added SM Wooden planks to on rap to water tunnel
• Added SM pipes details under the previously mentioned planks.(Broken pipe to act as water source)
• Corrected Misaligned textures in Water Tunnel
• Added underfoot lighting for water tunnel
• Messed about with UT Billboard (just coz)
• Added ambient sounds
• Corrected BSP surfaces to allow Decals to work
• Added Water emitters
• Rearranged Tunnel Geometry
• Added player triggered sounds
• Added SM Drains to water Tunnel

Left To Do:

• NICETOHAVE: Add Cheaky Shock area
• NICETOHAVE: Moving clouds in Skybox

Download: DM-Malevolence-rc2.zip

Didn't have the chance to play any maps but I'll give it a go this week.

Last release should be damn awesome

Hey BB, for some reason I'm getting an error attempting to decompress the .ut3 file on RC2. Anyone else have this problem?

That's an odd error. I've just downloaded it. Extracted fine for me. Maybe the download got interrupted?