5 second bleed out in next TU?

[Qumph]

hell no.... the bleed out time should be fifty seconds. executions for nubs. or better yet, executions is warzone on training wheels. altho ppl that suck only use hammerburst in warzone when they have host on their team. but nah, Warzone makes u better, trust me, warzone u gotta play with caution. u cant play like nuubs like u can in execution and rush power weapons. and no we dont just use distant weapons. my shotgun skills is better then 80% then everybody that plays gears and climbing to 100% mark. im so confident in my shotty game that ill dance around u and let u shoot me once before i shoot back. or ill use a gorgon pistol to kill ppl using a shotty.

[ghoto]

hell no.... the bleed out time should be fifty seconds. executions for nubs. or better yet, executions is warzone on training wheels. altho ppl that suck only use hammerburst in warzone when they have host on their team. but nah, Warzone makes u better, trust me, warzone u gotta play with caution. u cant play like nuubs like u can in execution and rush power weapons. and no we dont just use distant weapons. my shotgun skills is better then 80% then everybody that plays gears and climbing to 100% mark. im so confident in my shotty game that ill dance around u and let u shoot me once before i shoot back. or ill use a gorgon pistol to kill ppl using a shotty.

Is it ok for us to have a playlist where we can get up your higness?

[AJ stays fresh]

15 always seems incredibly long, but 5 seems to short. how about someway to make it 10 seconds?

[xchange]

I'm glad to see xchange really pushing for this. 5 seconds for Execution.

Obv. not hard enough. I haven't viewed this post in about a week because there just isn't enough recognition of this thread; not enough votes.

Either way, I'm glad to see that the yes votes still outweigh the no votes, even though many of the no votes are from people that want 10 seconds instead of 15.

Hopefully the epic update crew has taken notice that we want our original 5sec bleed-out execution rules back!

[xchange]

hell no.... the bleed out time should be fifty seconds. executions for nubs. or better yet, executions is warzone on training wheels. altho ppl that suck only use hammerburst in warzone when they have host on their team. but nah, Warzone makes u better, trust me, warzone u gotta play with caution. u cant play like nuubs like u can in execution and rush power weapons. and no we dont just use distant weapons. my shotgun skills is better then 80% then everybody that plays gears and climbing to 100% mark. im so confident in my shotty game that ill dance around u and let u shoot me once before i shoot back. or ill use a gorgon pistol to kill ppl using a shotty.

All i have to say to this guy is he should support the reduction of the execution bleed-out. I mean, how many warzone games do you actually get to play without a full party? 1? 2? Its because everyone votes execution. If execution was a totally different gametype (as it would be with 5sec bleed-out), then many of those who don't want to see people get back up would start to vote warzone; hence, more people voting for the gametype you want!

Why would you vote against a change that would indirectly benefit you? Think about it!

[xchange]

15 always seems incredibly long, but 5 seems to short. how about someway to make it 10 seconds?

The same response I gave to everyone else I will give to this post. Execution is supposed to be up close and personal; 5 seconds is the only way to ensure this happens.

I challenge you to start counting and run/roll/bounce your way across the map for 10 seconds, and when you are done, come back here and tell me truthfully that 10sec would promote an up close battle. I guarantee you won't be able to because in 10 seconds you can cross a very large distance in gears (that is unless they continue to add pauses), heck even in 5 seconds you can get pretty far.

5sec or its pointless.

[Roachie]

Totally agree with this either 5 secs or 10secs is fine imo, but 15secs is just stupidly long, It's so annoying just laying their waiting for the guy to run accross map to execute me knowing I wont get up in time.
Maybe post this in Gears of war 2 section? That is a more active board I think, might get more interest there.

[Crazyjacknuts]

5 or atleast 10...for christ sake its so stupid. Epic didnt play Gears 1 at all and it shows.

[Roachie]

5 or atleast 10...for christ sake its so stupid. Epic didnt play Gears 1 at all and it shows.

All I remember Epic saying about Gears1 is they didnt want it to be a constant shotgun war which it turned out to be, whch is why i think they put it to 15 secs so you can get more kills with hammerb/lancer etc. I think 10secs would make everyone happy, its not far enough to run across a whole map but its close enough to make hammer etc worth while.

Personally i want 5 secs though ill play warzone if i want to fight long range.

[merlintt]

5 sec bleedout was the limit most people used in gears 1 matches,i played ranked on gow1 all weekend and most of the rooms had a 5 sec bleedout

[Sniper X]

I might add to those people voting ''no'' that this is a vote for execution mode only - not the game in general.

I can't understand why people would want 15 seconds in Execution... do you want to down him from a distance and THEN get close to him? I thought the point of Execution was to stay close in the first place?

5 seconds please.

[xII Morgoth IIx]

No thank you..I like 15 seconds.

[Sniper X]

hell no.... the bleed out time should be fifty seconds. executions for nubs. or better yet, executions is warzone on training wheels. altho ppl that suck only use hammerburst in warzone when they have host on their team. but nah, Warzone makes u better, trust me, warzone u gotta play with caution. u cant play like nuubs like u can in execution and rush power weapons. and no we dont just use distant weapons. my shotgun skills is better then 80% then everybody that plays gears and climbing to 100% mark. im so confident in my shotty game that ill dance around u and let u shoot me once before i shoot back. or ill use a gorgon pistol to kill ppl using a shotty.

Its so plain to see that you haven't pushed to that high skill factor that Execution requires... Anyone to say that Warzone is more Dangerous than Execution is a noob in my book anyday. Their typically not good enough to move/slide/bounce around and battle simultaneously, so they camp in Warzone and fire from a distance...

And its so typical of 50%of the Warzone players wanting to ruin the Execution mode for the executionists. Were saying we want to play Execution like Execution - thats it. We dont want to play Warzone within Execution...

May be 10-15 secds can work for Warzone so that when you down someone from a distance they can crawl into cover, but in Execution its close & personal - 5 seconds is what you have.

[GBarrs]

1. No 15 seconds is fine..don't get downed because your too stupid to check your suroundings since your so addicted to picking up a power weapon. For Crist sakes it's a cover-based shooter so use it

2. 5 second bleedouts would actually be worse for your execution loving whores because all i would have to do is acitive reload and know that all i have to do is shoot you again in an even shoter time period than before( still have my active power boost within those 5 seconds by the way). With 15 seconds you are like a crawling armidillo protected by pixie dust that i have to go out of my way to get to instead of shooting you down when you get back up because your too stupid to take cover.

[GBarrs]

May be 10-15 secds can work for Warzone so that when you down someone from a distance they can crawl into cover, but in Execution its close & personal - 5 seconds is what you have.

ohh! you mean two-piecing right.. in my experiance execution players are about the same as warzone players when it comes to "shotgun battles"( or rockem sockem robot's in this game) the big difference i've notices is that execution players rush straight for the power weapons without even looking around because they know the reprocutions aren't really severe at all.

[GBarrs]

I can't understand why people would want 15 seconds in Execution... do you want to down him from a distance and THEN get close to him? I thought the point of Execution was to stay close in the first place?

Where the hell in the manual does it say that.
My option are:

• Down you 3 times
• Down your then shoot you in the head with a pistol ( from any range i might add)
• Down you then walk up to you because no one on your team thinks its a big deal that your down since it's execution so they won't even attempt to revive you
• Down you then kill your with a power weapon you were so eagerly trying to achieve
  Down you then walk next to your and wait for your to get back up so i can get more points in your feable attempt to crawl away
  
  
  
  

[Sniper X]

ohh! you mean two-piecing right.. in my experiance execution players are about the same as warzone players when it comes to "shotgun battles"( or rockem sockem robot's in this game) the big difference i've notices is that execution players rush straight for the power weapons without even looking around because they know the reprocutions aren't really severe at all.

No, I dont mean 2 piecing - period.

Warzone players have ruined Execution, thats why may be to you it all seems so similar. A 5 second bleed-out time would set the pace of execution... Its so clear to see that your a Warzone player... Every executionist knows what a 5 second bleed out time would bring to the execution mode.

[Sniper X]

Where the hell in the manual does it say that.
My option are:

• Down you 3 times
• Down your then shoot you in the head with a pistol ( from any range i might add)
• Down you then walk up to you because no one on your team thinks its a big deal that your down since it's execution so they won't even attempt to revive you
• Down you then kill your with a power weapon you were so eagerly trying to achieve
  Down you then walk next to your and wait for your to get back up so i can get more points in your feable attempt to crawl away

Its interesting how every single one of your points says ''down you, down you, down you, down you, down you...'' Its so clear to see that your not and execution player or look forward to shotgun battles. If you was you would know that we battle up close with flash movement left, right, everywhere and we can kill you on the spot there and then.... this is what the 5 second bleed-out time promotes... come close to me and fight me... this is what 5 seconds brings.

Not the down you, down you, down you, down you mentallity that has originated from the Warzone mode and has infected the Exection mode.

Executionists don't look to invade the Warzone mode, but why do Warzone players look to invade Execution?

Definately 5 seconds.

[xchange]

Its interesting how every single one of your points says ''down you, down you, down you, down you, down you...'' Its so clear to see that your not and execution player or look forward to shotgun battles. If you was you would know that we battle up close with flash movement left, right, everywhere and we can kill you on the spot there and then.... this is what the 5 second bleed-out time promotes... come close to me and fight me... this is what 5 seconds brings.

Not the down you, down you, down you, down you mentallity that has originated from the Warzone mode and has infected the Exection mode.

Executionists don't look to invade the Warzone mode, but why do Warzone players look to invade Execution?

Definately 5 seconds.

Well Put. Go back to warzone Gbarrs

[LiquidNitr0]

5 sec is too fast :\

[Qumph]

Its so plain to see that you haven't pushed to that high skill factor that Execution requires... Anyone to say that Warzone is more Dangerous than Execution is a noob in my book anyday. Their typically not good enough to move/slide/bounce around and battle simultaneously, so they camp in Warzone and fire from a distance...

And its so typical of 50%of the Warzone players wanting to ruin the Execution mode for the executionists. Were saying we want to play Execution like Execution - thats it. We dont want to play Warzone within Execution...

May be 10-15 secds can work for Warzone so that when you down someone from a distance they can crawl into cover, but in Execution its close & personal - 5 seconds is what you have.

actually execution is for noobs. I merk everybody but i specially love to kill ppl in execution that think their lil wanna wall bounce is gonna kill me. Im a all around killer and execution noobs have little to no skill. theres some that are good. but most are wack. lets run to the power weapon get shot by every bullet in everybodies gun on the other team get downed and not be able to die even tho im getting shot over 100 times with bullets from every gun when im down, but not out. WTF. who wants to take the time to pull out ur pistol and kill a enemy that ran for a power weapon and got downed. that takes too much time and is why executions wack. IN WARZONE, U HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE POWER WEAPONS and which makes it more "tactical" and forces players to either abandon the power weapon completely or wait till everyones fighting to pick it up. they need to bring back the choice to play warzone or execution period cuz im tired of playin with u execution nubbs. when u could wall bounce a wall bouncer using a shotgun with a gorgon pistol. U could say ppl in WArzone dont have skill.

[Sniper X]

actually execution is for noobs. I merk everybody but i specially love to kill ppl in execution that think their lil wanna wall bounce is gonna kill me. Im a all around killer and execution noobs have little to no skill. theres some that are good. but most are wack. lets run to the power weapon get shot by every bullet in everybodies gun on the other team get downed and not be able to die even tho im getting shot over 100 times with bullets from every gun when im down, but not out. WTF. who wants to take the time to pull out ur pistol and kill a enemy that ran for a power weapon and got downed. that takes too much time and is why executions wack. IN WARZONE, U HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE POWER WEAPONS and which makes it more "tactical" and forces players to either abandon the power weapon completely or wait till everyones fighting to pick it up. they need to bring back the choice to play warzone or execution period cuz im tired of playin with u execution nubbs. when u could wall bounce a wall bouncer using a shotgun with a gorgon pistol. U could say ppl in WArzone dont have skill.

Your idea of skill is how you get power weapons and how you down people???

- Pathetic.

You really dont know what your talking about. Todays Execution constantly gets invaded by Warzone players. And why? Becuase the weapon balance is in their favour. It only takes 3 people out of 10 to change the game mode from Execution to Warzone because like I said, the weapon balance leans towards Warzone players.

You think its so much skill to down people with your cute Hammer-burst whilst standing in the open (most of the time).. it makes me sick.

Without Execution players, Gears would lose any edge that it's got. The competition and contant-real time- in your face, up close, intence & real personal, 1-on-1 battles (or even 3 on 1, or 2 on 1). This is has made Gears and is the reason why you even have the chance to post things on this forum.

Without Execution players, there would be no Gears or a forum for you to post your ill-minded comments. Were not asking to have any of the game the execution way, all were saying is: When we choose execution, we would like to play execution.

5 second bleed-out time - and a flat weapon balance for execution I might add - brings the battle on.

I think in your heart because you cant handle the amount of control that is needed to play execution you just stick to Warzone and then give silly reasons to make yourself look skillful. Because playing execution needs the use of all the buttons & both the move & look sticks at a much more combinational & much faster rate than Warzone, making execution a much more think fast and think correct type of game.

Warzone takes a slower pace of thinking and use of buttons. This is one of the reasons why Warzone is a tone down from Execution. And this is why we need to really create an Execution mode for fast thinkers, and this is why 5 seconds is needed to kick start this process.

The only thing may be all executionists will probably agree with you is the fact that we need to separate Execution & Warzone.

Put 5 seconds on Execution, and put 10 seconds on Warzone and what the heck, in Warzone make the long distance weapons stronger - it might make it worthwhile to play it if theirs a true sense of danger in it. With stronger Lancers & Hammer-burst in Warzone ONLY would make it feel real risky to get to the open. At the moment its only strong enough to kill Execution - which it does, but when you play Warzone it's even more boring because of the amount of safety involved.

Anyway, 5 seconds please to give the edge.

[Qumph]

5 seconds is wack. if im forced to play execution 95% of the time, then they need to keep the bleed out time as it is. If u go down, thats ur fault for not playing with caution. executions wack, and if epic does anything with the bleed out time, they should make it longer. and they should make it to where the person that downs a player can kill him from where hes at. but only the person that downs him. I get to play Warzone ONCE or TWICE a week, due to execution nubs and im tired of it. keep execution how it is. and dont raise the damage on the lancer. if u use a lancer that already proves ur a nub. if u hit the B button which execution players are best at doing, ur a nub. Epic shouldnt be trying to do anything with the game types besides wingman. EPIC needs to focus their attention on decreasing host advantage, bullet detection, lowering melee damage, and over all THE FREAKIN LAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

OH and for the record i use the left hand control style (southpaw) and the alternate button config. I use more buttons then all of u.

[SPIDER-MAN]

Change it to 10 seconds

[MacxAcessa1]

15 seconds does seem to long but 5 seconds just seems to short,if it was 5 seconds get up i would never pick someone up agian and this is a TEAM game unlike gears of war 1.If your looking for a game that you can take over by yourself without out team help go play gears of war 1.

Also if you get down all the way across the map who's fault is it really.it is pretty difficult to shoot someone down across the map with any weapon because chances are they will grab cover.

I believe it should stay at 15 seconds to keep the spirit of the game, which is working as a team.

[xchange]

15 seconds does seem to long but 5 seconds just seems to short,if it was 5 seconds get up i would never pick someone up agian and this is a TEAM game unlike gears of war 1.If your looking for a game that you can take over by yourself without out team help go play gears of war 1.

Also if you get down all the way across the map who's fault is it really.it is pretty difficult to shoot someone down across the map with any weapon because chances are they will grab cover.

I believe it should stay at 15 seconds to keep the spirit of the game, which is working as a team.

I logged thousands of hours on Gears1 with 5 second bleed-out, and let me tell you, 5 seconds is plenty of time to either get killed or picked up. I think if you guys actually try 5 seconds with friends in private, you will be shocked with how much fun it is.

And again. I AM ONLY TALKING TO EXECUTION PLAYERS. Qumph, find a warzone forum or make friends that play warzone so that you can have enough players to sway the vote, don't ruin a gametype you don't even want to play. Ridiculous!

[Sniper X]

OH and for the record i use the left hand control style (southpaw) and the alternate button config. I use more buttons then all of u.

I'm an Excutionist, and I use left handed control as well - but this does not make me any complex than standard users. In fact it doesn't make you anything other than if you can get your fingers right it means that you have more simultaneous combining of buttons & sticks.

And you say you use more buttons, you little Warzone head? It is the rate of button & stick combination over and over and over again that makes Execution more complex than Warzone... in Execution these combinations happen much faster on the control pad - note: much faster - and each combination is a different one due to the fact that your opponent is moving un-predictably and so you have to adjust within a very, very small amount of time. Executionists are fast thinkers, thats why we can handle it, thats why were asking for a 5 seconds bleed-out time.

But for real. Separate Execution from Warzone - its the only way.

[Qumph]

I'm an Excutionist, and I use left handed control as well - but this does not make me any complex than standard users. In fact it doesn't make you anything other than if you can get your fingers right it means that you have more simultaneous combining of buttons & sticks.

And you say you use more buttons, you little Warzone head? It is the rate of button & stick combination over and over and over again that makes Execution more complex than Warzone... in Execution these combinations happen much faster on the control pad - note: much faster - and each combination is a different one due to the fact that your opponent is moving un-predictably and so you have to adjust within a very, very small amount of time. Executionists are fast thinkers, thats why we can handle it, thats why were asking for a 5 seconds bleed-out time.

But for real. Separate Execution from Warzone - its the only way.

I completely agree with everything u just said. its all tru. i just got to play my second game of warzone this week. And all the other team did was sit behind cover with bultok pistols and wait for me or one of my teammates to move then shoot us down. When warzones played like that, its wack, well if u have a whole team of execution players besides urself which i did. U HAVE TO play warzone differently then exectuion. So, they should give us the option to play warzone and execution at our own free will. or have it to where u could pick to vote for warzone or execution. And have it to where u could play strictly one or the other game mode.

after that game of warzone i almost like to play execution more.

[MacxAcessa1]

I logged thousands of hours on Gears1 with 5 second bleed-out, and let me tell you, 5 seconds is plenty of time to either get killed or picked up. I think if you guys actually try 5 seconds with friends in private, you will be shocked with how much fun it is.

And again. I AM ONLY TALKING TO EXECUTION PLAYERS. Qumph, find a warzone forum or make friends that play warzone so that you can have enough players to sway the vote, don't ruin a gametype you don't even want to play. Ridiculous!

I am an execution player,my highest rank is on excecution(last time i checked i was 4200 in the world).Ok look i want to think of this,you are playing on Jacinto and every single game the opposing team picks of the sniper and torque and since there is a 5 sec bleed out you wouldn't be able to stop them from getting it becasue their teamates would just have to protect them with lancers and hammerburst for 5 secconds, unlike right now since the get up town is 15 your team can quickly devise a plan to get him because if the other team picks him up the will quickly be shot down agian.If it was a 5 second bleed out you wouldn't pck up your teamate in this situation.Your only choice would be to rush back

See all you want to do is rush,why would you want to recreate a game already made,if you want to rush play gears 1.If you take out 15 second bleed out you take out the strategy and dumb down the game

Gears of War 2=Team Skill

Let's not make it a game of whoever has the best shotgun.

[xSKULLDRILLx]

ermm..
No.
I like 15 seconds,i think it works well.

I agree with you!

[x LeG3nD]

your stupid get good at this game

[xchange]

"Let's not make it a game of whoever has the best shotgun."

Last edited by MacxAcessa1; 07-03-2009 at 08:44 PM. Reason: Edit:actually im in the low 3900's,so i am really an execution player.

Warzone is already all about the best hammerburst so why cant we have a up-close shotty battle gametype?

I am not saying you have to be up close to battle them, you just have to be remotely close to KILL them. In most cases, the guy coming in to shotty you will still get owned by an experienced hammerburst, so don't JUST shotty battle, just hammerburst them and they will be downed at your feet.

And as far as your rank in GOW2 execution goes, and you claiming to be an execution player, I have a comment. GOW2 execution (with the current 5sec BO) is not execution at all. Don't claim to be what you can't; most real execution players have abandoned the gametype or the game altogether.

[xchange]

My main point with this thread is that the execution gametype was created as a gametype where you can revive without being revived and have a chance to live/fight on if the "Debbie Downer" can't get to you in time to kill you. I have done this approx. 3 times while playing execution with the current 15sec bleed-out.

"This is not what our fathers intended."

[Drwster]

i voted yes.... but here is what i really think. 15 - too much 5 - too short

10

[xchange]

Just thought I would post in order to re-activate this thread.

Has anyone heard anything about the execution bleed-out timer being changed yet? In any upcoming updates? I never end up hearing about the updates until shortly before they come out so if anyone has heard if this may be considered a potential change, let me know.

Thanks. And KEEP VOTING

[Gears_Warrior]

I think 5 seconds is too short for Execution, that makes it too hard to kill someone, since they'll just get back up. Maybe for non-leader players in Guardian, but not Execution.

[Sniper X]

I think 5 seconds is too short for Execution, that makes it too hard to kill someone, since they'll just get back up. Maybe for non-leader players in Guardian, but not Execution.

Real executionist's don't fear this. In fact, if you watch them play private matches you'll see that its MORE than enough time to kill them & crawl. Executionists think different.

[xchange]

Wow, this post has been here for over a month at least, and I have got what, 74 votes out of the millions of players?

Oh well, hopefully EPIC will see that even with the small population sample I have it is easy to tell that 5sec, or at least a shorter bleed-out, is desired in EXECUTION.

[Demon Kidd II]

Yeah bring back the 5 sec bleed out.

[MacxAcessa1]

"Let's not make it a game of whoever has the best shotgun."

Last edited by MacxAcessa1; 07-03-2009 at 08:44 PM. Reason: Edit:actually im in the low 3900's,so i am really an execution player.

Warzone is already all about the best hammerburst so why cant we have a up-close shotty battle gametype?

I am not saying you have to be up close to battle them, you just have to be remotely close to KILL them. In most cases, the guy coming in to shotty you will still get owned by an experienced hammerburst, so don't JUST shotty battle, just hammerburst them and they will be downed at your feet.

And as far as your rank in GOW2 execution goes, and you claiming to be an execution player, I have a comment. GOW2 execution (with the current 5sec BO) is not execution at all. Don't claim to be what you can't; most real execution players have abandoned the gametype or the game altogether.

Ok if you made it to 5 seconds i would down about halfway across the map with my HB,active,down you agian,active,down agian,active,your dead,but with the current 15 sec bleedout your pretty much protected for 15 seconds to get into cover and get picked up.

Now you have actually made it easier for me because orginaly i would have to go all the way near your teamates and attempt to kill you.

I was playing a private game of 4v4 execution today with my friends on River with 5 second bleedout.Two of us went to boom and three of the other team went to boom.So they picked up boom and we down him,he started to crawl towards his teamates but halfway thier he got downed agian because of 5 second bleedout.Then finaly his teamates started to rush us,but the person who picked up boom died while getting back up because he was being lancered by two people in the sniper tower.

This would happen a ton more if it was 5 second bleedout,for example whenever i play on ruins I run up to flame and down the person who picked up torque,he usually always get picked up by his teamates after he crawls away into cover,if it was a 5 sec bleed out I would just down him 3 times wihtout him having a chance to get into cover.

But then agian this is just my opinon,I still thinks it would be a bad idea.