Sweet Suggestions For TU#3

[Perfect]

Weapons
Issue/Suggested Fix/Comment

Boltok Pistol
None

Boom Shield
Portable Glitch Machine (Post TU#2)

Boom Shot
Blast radius seems to be off when you are not the host

Frag Grenade
Lower life when planted to surface (Post TU#2) and lengthen detonation time when stuck to surface. Grenade rounds are lengthy for the experienced player because it encourages camping. I also think the ability to stick them on surfaces is a great addition to the game but it has to be easier to avoid stuck grenades.

Gnasher Shotgun
Bullet Lag is still an issue when you are not the host. Very Frustrating. This is the most important weapon in the game and should be flawless whether you are host or not. Why is this the only weapon with a bullet lag issue? The sound, shot and hit should be simultaneous.

Gorgon Pistol
Useless in MP. Shorten time between shots and increase damage.

Hammer Of Dawn
Sometimes it takes a while for the beam to come down after the initial or first shot is used. The beam should come down after 3-4 beeps and or shorten the amount of time it takes to get a beep when you have direct surface contact?

Hammerburst Assault Rifle
Targeting is inconsistent. Tighten up on aim and bullets.

Ink Grenade
No Issues. Very nice addition to the game.

Lancer Assault Rifle
Wow where do I begin? 1. The chainsaw should be lowered at the slightest hint of damage. Everything should over power the bayonet. Decrease the “suction area.” The following should lower the bayonet or revved chainsaw. 1. A single shot from a snub pistol or any other weapon. 2. A head to head melee.

Longshot Sniper Rifle
Slight increase the head shot box maybe? Everyone loves popping heads. Very happy active downs have been eliminated.

Mortar
None

Mulcher
Kind of clunky and hard to use in MP

Scorcher Flamethrower
None: Nice fix with TU#2

Smoke Grenade
Decrease radius and rag dolling down stairs. There should be a time limit on knockdown time and definite radius cap. Perhaps mashing the A button to get up quicker or know that knockdown time is no more than 3 seconds whether you are on stairs or not.

Snub Pistol
None

Torque Bow
I’ve seen people get hit with a bow and not die in the middle of a roll. I have done this.




Maps
Issue/Suggested Fix/Comment
Avalanche
A power weapon should be available on the street.

Blood Drive
This is the map where smoke grenades are the most annoying. Everyone rushes torque and sniper and is always a mess otherwise, awesome map.

Day One
Good for horde. Not my favorite for MP due to the lack of power weapons and encourages camping.
Hail

Nice fix with the grenades after TU#2. It is still one sided with Torque. Add more power weapons closer to spawn. Can we get rid of the hail? Reduce time of hail?

Jacinto
Awesome Map. No issues. Perfect Everything.

Pavilion
Open the doors in the back like wingman. Everyone uses the shield glitch to get inside these doors. Why are the doors closed anyway?

River
No issues. Just gets boring after a while. Whoever gets the boom wins the game. Replace boom shot with flamethrower?

Ruins
None

Security
None

Stasis
None

Canals
Same old stuff would rather have Fuel Depot.

Gridlock
Same old stuff would rather have Clock Tower. Replace boom with flamethrower. Boomshot wins this game.

Mansion
Same old stuff would rather have War Machine. Replace boom with flamethrower or add another Boomshot. Boomshot wins this game.

Subway
Same old stuff would rather have Escalation and War Machine. The weapons are one sided. The mulcher is in a horrible spot. Bring the boom back and cycle the sniper and torque bow in both places.




Tyro Station
No Offense. I HATE THIS MAP. The train is annoying and loud and now its super hard to get off the tracks? Why do you have to wait for the icon to appear to get back on the surface from the track? Rooftops would have been a better choice than this map and Rooftops pretty much sucked.

Flood
Eh!

Gold Rush
Nice Map

Fuel Station
Everyone seems to rush the mortar. Very one sided with grenades and spawn points. Needs a power weapon at both ends. Especially by the far building next to the gas station opposite mortat where the small steps are.




Matchmaking and Miscellaneous
Issue/Suggested Fix/Comment

VS.
I am one for a challenge but matchmaking is almost never even. How can you match 1 bar against 3 and 4 bars? Number of players is very inconsistent due to quitting and connections and therefore starts the domino effect of quitting. I am guilty of this myself. Why do I want to waste time staying in a game that is hopeless?

The deliberate lag switcher/standbyer, shield glitcher and crab walker.
I hope your XBOX’s break and are out of warranty. I hope you get banned from XBOX LIVE indefinitely. I hope you live miserable lives in a leper colony. You are pure scum!

Lag
Yes we all have it. What will fix it? A region filter? A server? What is my $50.00 a year going to? A region preference will not work because the countries that only have a few players may be causing the lag so they will always pick the US as a preference. No offense to people in other countries, I was born in another country but c’mon?!?!?. If servers aren’t possible then we need a continental United States filter dividing the country into 3 parts and yes this excludes Hawaii and maybe even Alaska. Sorry and Aloha 808s.

Game Types
Please separate the game types. No offense but I only play Execution and Warzone. Every other game type is a chainsaw fest and you are at a disadvantage if you are not using the chainsaw. There are so many variables which influence this. Inexperienced leaders on Guardian, Mismatches with number of players and rank and so forth.

Quitting, Quitters & The Quit Option
As you can see, quitting is an issue and the lack of a quit button does not stop people from quitting. Quitters are not the problem. You have to ask a smart question… Why are there so many people quitting games? I quit all the time but it is for legit reasons. Mismatches, Lag, Game Type (Why are you forcing me to play something I don’t have fun with?) Nobody wants to waste time in a game that is lagging or mismatched. You could spend that time searching for another game that fits your preference. Glitchers. I refuse to stay in the game If I see someone glitching thru a wall or out of the map or using their shield with a two handed weapon. So if all the things I mentioned in this post get fixed, the quitting problem will be gone as well.

Host Advantage
It seems the team with lower rank always gets host. This contributes to quitting. If I am getting raped in a game. I’m out of there…. Can anyone honestly say they have fun in mismatches? Does anyone have a confirmed list of host identity besides the shotgun working perfectly and seeing the number 6 during map selection?

Two Piecing
I really don’t see anything wrong with it. It’s a skill. Do you get mad when you get two pieced in HALO with a shotgun? No, so why should you get mad in this game? The only problem is when you are up against the host. The host faster even if you the get the first melee. FIX THE SHOTGUN BULLET LAG PLEASE!
When it comes down it, I think this game has amazing potential once all bugs are worked out.

[Perfect]

Meat Shields
Utilize the X button instead of the A button. This will avoid jumping and or rolling into cover.

[Invader Skooj]

Security still has the smoke through the laser glitch.

Shield still can be used with two handed weapons.


Two Piecing isn't a skill when it's that simple to do and can not escape from it.

[enukem87]

PLEASE! get rid of the voting system, I cannot even put the game into my console for the fact when I want to go play online publicly I cannot choose the game type I'd like. I think I'm one of the many that can speak for the ever so dedicated original Gears Of War players who simply will not play this game for the fact that they can't play the game type they would like.

[jkillla]

the only thing that need to be fixed is the lag n the glitching..quitting is a usually but the answer is to that is nothing the voting is cool it dont bug me..i mean u going to play that particular thing..i dont get why people quit yea u getting beat but um like i say just get better the game not going to help u win while u sit there n dont do nothing u gotta shoot back lol..um the shield glitching still in effect n u can still go through the doors on pavilon the frags when stuck in wall some how people can walk pass them n not die? lol i just say shoot n run but the camping i hate it but i usually go after them iono about anyone else..um i seen also people bringin in 6 people into games like meatflag i caught them cheating by having a player be the meatflag how u ask iono but i got a pic of it n if i cant put it on here i do it..um wingman is ok if the lag aint there..i mean the whole game good just the lag n glitching what ruins it sowhat if u get beat u cant handle it buy the wii n play mario cart ..other than that chainsaw battles not working if the other teammate got a modded controller so it useless .. that bout it maps are cool ooo yea the smoke frags..if you can take away the part when u throw it n it hits the ground in front of u where it dont down ur self it kinda stupid lol n the host issue is not good but servers works fine with me lol o if u wanna see the pic of this hit me up on aim.

[lllHIGHllLIFElll]

I miss the convenience of gears of war 1 when i could turn on my xbox and be playing a match a minute later. Now this stupid lobby stuff turns it into a 10 minute process to play a match that goes best of 5 on execution and 2 for guardian. What the hell epic? I was so addicted to gears one because i could sit down and play a match that could be anywhere from 10 to 19 rounds! that was amazing! Not only that but i could also jump right into a game without dealing with this bull, i gotta find 4 other players then we gotta find 5 more, then instead of setting a map cycle we cast a vote on 2 maps that no one in the match enjoy. I don't understand why epic fixed something that wasn't broken. I want there to be a new patch that abolishes this stupid ass lobby or atleast lets you bypass it and jump into a match. PLEASE PLeASE fix this epic. i bought this game for its once incredible multiplayer. Pleas re-deliver! and go back to the old way so i can stop playing gears one while gears 2 collects dust!

[Invader Skooj]

I miss the convenience of gears of war 1 when i could turn on my xbox and be playing a match a minute later. Now this stupid lobby stuff turns it into a 10 minute process to play a match that goes best of 5 on execution and 2 for guardian. What the hell epic? I was so addicted to gears one because i could sit down and play a match that could be anywhere from 10 to 19 rounds! that was amazing! Not only that but i could also jump right into a game without dealing with this bull, i gotta find 4 other players then we gotta find 5 more, then instead of setting a map cycle we cast a vote on 2 maps that no one in the match enjoy. I don't understand why epic fixed something that wasn't broken. I want there to be a new patch that abolishes this stupid ass lobby or atleast lets you bypass it and jump into a match. PLEASE PLeASE fix this epic. i bought this game for its once incredible multiplayer. Pleas re-deliver! and go back to the old way so i can stop playing gears one while gears 2 collects dust!

Yeah, Gears 1 became my new Doom where it was a time killer. If I needed something to past the time, nothing better then to jump in and play (Isn't this the 360's motto?) Gears 2 is Jump in, wait for 20 minutes as we find a game where one team practically leaves, not the mode you wanted, and it's laggy as hell. Yeah that's fun...

[Chambo83]

They need to just make a server so the lag is no longer a problem. Maybe for people that are Glitchers they can do an option like they have on left 4 dead where you can vote to kick someone.

Also they need to fix the split screeners mic issue. Whenever someone is split screening if they are not on the same team there mics do not work. If they are and one of them dies then they no longer work. I know there is the party chat option but if you are playing a private match then everyone is in the party and you can not plan attacks. The other thing is I liked how in gears 1 after each round everyone would be in the dead room and could talk some trash before the next round started. Why did they go away from that.

[El Jorge]

Where do I start? Glitching, lag switching, mic's for split screen players, 2 piecing (make it like in Gears 1 where you actually had to use timing), weapon balancing (you don't have to torque anyone anymore, just torque the wall they are next to and don't even get me started on the smoke grenades) and matchmaking. Is TU3 going to fix all of these issues? Probably not. But if they can at least get the lag switching, glitching, and matchmaking, Epic will definitely be on the right track.

[El Jorge]

Oh and add more of the old maps like War Machine, Escalation, Raven Down, and Process.

[Invader Skooj]

Oh and add more of the old maps like War Machine, Escalation, Raven Down, and Process.

What he said, oh and stop making them look gay. Gridlock looks alright but you messed up Mansion and your royally screwed up Subway. Subway was epic with that rain and now it's been gayafied. Also Canals sucks too. It's just blue and looks really lame.

[High Caliber]

they still do the dead chat

[High Caliber]

your a ***, Mansion looks great, like it has been there for longer, and canals is like that because it is based on being about winter time, queer.

[High Caliber]

they should take match making out but if they leave it in, the voting is awesome and if you got to choose every gametype you want, then there would be a million different match making types and Match making would take even longer than it already does...*served

[Invader Skooj]

your a ***, Mansion looks great, like it has been there for longer, and canals is like that because it is based on being about winter time, queer.

Yeah, up yours too buddy.


Mansion looks pretty lame and if they want Canals in winter time then there are better ways then make it ALL blue and very lame looking. Canals is just blue all over and it looks terrible.

[High Caliber]

Yeah, up yours too buddy.


Mansion looks pretty lame and if they want Canals in winter time then there are better ways then make it ALL blue and very lame looking. Canals is just blue all over and it looks terrible.

You're just a queer all over. how else were they supposed to do it? and Mansion is supposed to be worn and in bad shape since it is "later" in the story

[xXxGeArSxFrEaKxXx]

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah bam bam boyyyyyyyyy

[Invader Skooj]

You're just a queer all over. how else were they supposed to do it? and Mansion is supposed to be worn and in bad shape since it is "later" in the story

Mansion looked eerie in one and was still worn and in bad shape, can't keep it eerie and in bad shape?

Honestly, make the maps more visually appealing then just the same color all over. Gridlock was a welcome change because Gridlock looked lame before. But they messed up Subway and Mansion. Tyro Station is alright (wasn't a fan of the map to begin with.

You're just a queer all over

Sounds like you're coming on to me

[High Caliber]

Mansion looked eerie in one and was still worn and in bad shape, can't keep it eerie and in bad shape?

Honestly, make the maps more visually appealing then just the same color all over. Gridlock was a welcome change because Gridlock looked lame before. But they messed up Subway and Mansion. Tyro Station is alright (wasn't a fan of the map to begin with.



Sounds like you're coming on to me

man you're a fffaaagggeeettt. And no I don't like boys, unlike you. and your little gay motto thing is stupid. Why would you want people to use more cover. That makes the game slow and boring. gay piece a ****

[mexpertbound]

*Smoke Grenade*
Delete the knockdown, and Put Flashbang can't see for 3-5 sec. I hate Knockdown Grenade. Is not a smoke Grenade, is a Knockdown Grenade !

[Invader Skooj]

man you're a fffaaagggeeettt. And no I don't like boys, unlike you. and your little gay motto thing is stupid. Why would you want people to use more cover. That makes the game slow and boring. gay piece a ****

Because I enjoy making that little mushy lump of meat in your head work once in a while.

[PwnAnubAsarus]

what about skorge!!!!! getting hit with a smoke grenade and suddenly flying around..bouncing..bouncing...then dieing in mid air...just to have it happen again lmao

[Invader Skooj]

what about skorge!!!!! getting hit with a smoke grenade and suddenly flying around..bouncing..bouncing...then dieing in mid air...just to have it happen again lmao

Yeah, have they forgotten about that issue? I never play as Skorge to begin with but I've seen teammates and other players get thrown into the air.

[homiSi]

you can change you buttom layout so the roll button is the x button

[Invader Skooj]

you can change you buttom layout so the roll button is the x button

But it changes the rest of the layout, I would have liked a more in detail controls option like the PC.

[PwnAnubAsarus]

hahah i know!! but i hope that the 2second smoke down willl (if u still fly around).. just make u get bak up no matter what planet u fly to 8)

[abeullet]

Definitely sweet suggestions from Perfect. I too, would like to urge a much needed fix to what I call the chainsaw vortex. It is extremely frustrating being sucked into the bayonet when you are several feet away -- even more frustrating when you have already point blanked that opponent with your shottie multiple times. Get rid of the chainsaw invincibility and provide an "out", i.e. the ability to jump away/to the side.

In regards to the upcoming TU#3, the penalty for quitting early is a nice add; however, what if you quit because opponents are using standby/lag switches? It would be great if standby detection not only worked but also kicked that player(s) from the game and replaced them with bots. (Would need to get rid of host and move to servers, though)

[abeullet]

Breakout the gametypes...........Group Warzone and Execution together and dump guardian into its own.

[kalof_naturel]

AWSOME ur the best man

BUT yeh security need to get rid of the smoke laser glitch

good job man

[Zacxx201]

Honestly who enjoys Wingman!? The game type is a joke

[Wisdom Thumbs]

I love Wingman, what the **** are you talking about?

[Wisdom Thumbs]

what about skorge!!!!! getting hit with a smoke grenade and suddenly flying around..bouncing..bouncing...then dieing in mid air...just to have it happen again lmao

I KNOW!

I kept telling my friend Greg, "Don't play as Skorge or Kantus." When he asked why not, I told him, "Because smoke grenades make him go WEEE WEEE AHHGGHHG urgh in mid-air." And he just yelled 'cool!' And a few matches later he chose Skorge on Day One. BACKFLIP BOUNCE BOUNCE DEAD BOUNCE

It's ****ing hilarious on Ruins to get bounced off the bridge as Skorge. I flew almost all the way to the walkway on the other side of the Imulsion, but missed it by literally two feet. Longest effing bounce EVER. My friend did it once and got shot in the head with a torque-bow on LIVE!.

EDIT: oops, crap. Double post.

[Zacxx201]

I love Wingman, what the **** are you talking about?

Meh, just my opinion right?

[FenixFTW]

Yeah i agree with the switching out of the maps except for the gridlock for escalation one. gridlock is fine and escalation is cheap and unfair imo. but i did used to love fuel depot and clock tower

[budman02]

Two Piecing
I really don’t see anything wrong with it. It’s a skill. Do you get mad when you get two pieced in HALO with a shotgun? No, so why should you get mad in this game? The only problem is when you are up against the host. The host faster even if you the get the first melee. FIX THE SHOTGUN BULLET LAG PLEASE!
When it comes down it, I think this game has amazing potential once all bugs are worked out.

yeah but in halo 3 everybody doesn't start off with a shotty and even when you get punched you can still react without any stun at all + you can jump making it even harder to follow a target.

[Shotpiece]

What I'd really wish they would do, though I know it will never be done, is ti make it so that private matches can be set up the same way as Gears of War 1, where anyone could hop in and play. Matchmaking would be used for ranked. See? Everyone would be happy.

[enukem87]

Yeah I recently put the game in after some of the updates its much more enjoyable but the intense lag is definitely still an issue but after a few rounds you tend to get use to it except for the fact the other day I was shaking like I was having a seizure and could not move and then finally I was able to move but somehow was killed at the location I was stuck at previously.... much better after updates but then you have the issues with glitchers which is really annoying how is anyone able to have a good time if people are cheating to win!