Run and Shoot, why i can't?

[Sprunk G]

I'm glad epic have made this choice.

It'll stop GoW2 becomming the 2-peicing game everyone was moaning about. At least now, people will have to think about how they attack and opponent using smart maneuvers, rather than just roll up to them and blow their head off instantly.

This must be a freaking joke? YOU CAN MELEE RIGHT AFTER A ROADIE RUN BUT NOT SHOOT! So it actually ENCOURAGES 2-piecing which makes me sick!

The title update would have saved this game if they didn't add this RETARDED little annoying thing.

Why do they have to keep upsetting people that CAN aim, instead of making the noobs have to learn to aim...

This game keeps getting more noobfriendly... First they get a chainsaw that can kill anyone, now people with skill can't shoot at them instead have to camp because if you approach someone you are in disadvantage because you can't shoot.

Seriously this makes no sense and NO ONE was complaining about this, yet it has been altered, while thousands of posts were complaints about lag switchers, spawning without weapons. HOWEVER they decided to use their precious time to mess something up instead of fixing a problem! how does it make sense wow I'm so angry right now...

[Uncrvd]

Because it's a pain in the ass when someone simply runs up to you/rolls up to you and shoots you in the head immediately after coming out of the roady run/roll.

Why was it a pain? Why didnt you shoot them while they were running/rolling?

Why didnt you move out of the way?

Why weren't you aware of their position and not let them run up behind you?

Why were you caught out in the open in a position where someone could do that to you?

Sorry Joe, but your attitude is all too common, in blaming your own faults on the games design, looking for things to be coded in to prevent you having to think about how you play.

[DspartaN]

2 piece is still king, meleeing is still possible

[Pseudo Cire]

I didn't see anything wrong with roadie running and then shooting. It was in GOW1 too. Most people use a shotgun when doing this move. So why then did they take it out. It is the people who are weak skilled in this game that became victim to a move where you have to have good aim and awareness of enemy.

First off you see someone roadie running at you, you evade and then shoot. Simple. Second you get into cover and wait until he comes to you and blind fire pop out and shoot. Simple.

Because roadie running and shooting is no longer available, I cannot get to my buddy with enemies swarming him roadie run and shoot style. This was one of the effective ways to save your buddy down or not downed was to roadie run to that area where enemies are surrounding him or about to execute him and then you come in and blast them from a roadie run.

Lastly, How many of you while icovered behind a corner sees an enemy around your area and you roadie run out of the corner and shoot? The roadie run and shotgun blast move was the best move to use while you were covered in a corner. It catches the enemy off guard. It also prevents enemies rushing at you if you have done this affectively in previous rounds. Now this won't be able to be done.

I rarely two piece only in desparate situations. Now I am going to be two piecing more out of the roadie run.

[K1LL L0G1C]

Isn't this an attempt to reduce 2 piecing?

It's an attempt to dim down the shotgun in general.

[Dubsmokey]

Yeah it is but they made it harder to do anything about it now because THEY WONT FIX THE ****ING SHOTGUN

[z|FATALITY]

Honestly who actually did the 'jump and roll shotgun to the face' tactic....?

Personally i must have done this about 100 times out of 18000+ kills.

[Final Light]

This update is awesome but the only thing that just pissed on my day was the fact u cant shoot right after running. I didn't know how much I used this move until today. I run to a corner and theres a guy coming around the same corner when i get there, I let go of A and pull the trigger and nothing happened, the guy just keeps walking to me and chainsaws me.

just beautiful, epic.

[z|FATALITY]

Honestly who actually did the 'jump and roll shotgun to the face' tactic....?

Personally i must have done this about 100 times out of 18000+ kills.

[Bare Lakus]

This isn't fixing the game, it's slowing things down to a boring crawl.
I'm starting to wonder if Epic wants us all to look like beautiful ice skaters.

1. Shotgun is already slower
2. Shotgun is already weaker
3. Shotgun wielders are already the most affected by stopping power from other weapons

Now we can't even shoot when coming out of cover or after running. The fast paced shotgun battles from Gears are being replaced with slow and more or less boring "stand and shoot" fests in Gears 2. If it all comes down to a shotgun duel, I want it to be fun and challenging, not a standstill fight like it is now.

Don't nerf the shotgun, but make the others more useful! And how woul Epic achieve this?
BY REDUCING LAG! No other game has weapon balance troubles like this game, simply because noe other game has the same amount of lag.

[Final Light]

I don't know if reducing lag is going to revive this game. I think Epic dug themselves a deeper hole with their fans. I love the patch but there's unnecessary adjustments that ruin it. I hate having to relearn how to play gears over and over. They made a few dumb changes in Gears 1 that made people have to adapt to the new changes. But it was still a very fun game, a bit annoying to relearn a game but after a few days, you were back to having a great time. Now with gears 2, it's bad from the very get-go. I had to learn how to play gears 2 because it was no where near the gears 1 we all knew and loved. I had to forget about blindfiring and start pulling the L trigger. Now blind fire is fixed but theres still a massive lag which doesn't let me use my shotty as i wished to. Now i have to stop a few seconds before getting a guy so I MAYBE kill him. I don't see why I can't shoot right after running. I NEVER heard anyone complain about that; why fix whats not broken?

I'm on the boarderline about this game. 20% of me is telling me to just smash the game, another 70% is telling me to go sell the game, and the other 10% is telling me to wait it out. Somehow i keep waiting. But, i dunno how much longer i can keep my faith in a company that pays little attention to their fans...

[coolcat12]

its fine. no more haahahaah

[Chrono7rigger]

Because it's a pain in the ass when someone simply runs up to you/rolls up to you and shoots you in the head immediately after coming out of the roady run/roll.

and what some1 running up to you and 2 piecing u isnt annoying dude??? cmon man that was the dumbest idea ever, now i see double the amount of two piecing which i hoped wouldn't happen after the TU.... obviously u are a two piecing hoe.. u can leave

[Jhova808]

i played on my lunch break, and it annoyed me.

[Julian Casablancas]

BAD: you can melee right after leaving RR....THIS WILL MAKE TWO PIECING MUCH WORSE....so just remember, if your RR toward another player who is RR, throw the 1st punch man....lol sadly

Wow Epic. This is outrageous.

[eat Zeppelin]

I don't know if reducing lag is going to revive this game. I think Epic dug themselves a deeper hole with their fans. I love the patch but there's unnecessary adjustments that ruin it. I hate having to relearn how to play gears over and over. They made a few dumb changes in Gears 1 that made people have to adapt to the new changes. But it was still a very fun game, a bit annoying to relearn a game but after a few days, you were back to having a great time. Now with gears 2, it's bad from the very get-go. I had to learn how to play gears 2 because it was no where near the gears 1 we all knew and loved. I had to forget about blindfiring and start pulling the L trigger. Now blind fire is fixed but theres still a massive lag which doesn't let me use my shotty as i wished to. Now i have to stop a few seconds before getting a guy so I MAYBE kill him. I don't see why I can't shoot right after running. I NEVER heard anyone complain about that; why fix whats not broken?

I'm on the boarderline about this game. 20% of me is telling me to just smash the game, another 70% is telling me to go sell the game, and the other 10% is telling me to wait it out. Somehow i keep waiting. But, i dunno how much longer i can keep my faith in a company that pays little attention to their fans...

This man speaks 100% unadulterated truth.

[Final Light]

Wow Epic. This is outrageous.

very much so. Some guy ran to me, smacked me, as i was stunned he rolled behind me and shot me. 2 piecing fixed...right Epic...? :-\

This man speaks 100% unadulterated truth.

Thank you sir.

[F34R AXON]

I havent gotten a chance to play cuz of red ring but my friend told me that there is a delay in shooting after RR and after sliding around cover/rolling.

I was just wondering if this was true, that even if you just roll there will still be a shot delay?

[Julian Casablancas]

I havent gotten a chance to play cuz of red ring but my friend told me that there is a delay in shooting after RR and after sliding around cover/rolling.

I was just wondering if this was true, that even if you just roll there will still be a shot delay?

There is. It's so f***ing stupid.

Epic seriously wants this game to be as noob friendly as possible.

[OzKaR24]

this ****ing sucks everything is great but THAT make it sucks completely and they did it on purpose

from the rod ferguson post:
Removed the ability to instantly shoot coming out of a roadie run.

[coolcat12]

Umm how about let go of A and shoot, seriously stfu.

[Final Light]

Umm how about let go of A and shoot, seriously stfu.

But I have to wait 2 seconds! O:

[XxXx 350 xXxX]

This is going to seriously affect close quarters combat. Man this is particularly disapointing. I seriously dont understand why.

I run/slide into a corner/cover and cant shoot for two seconds, while the other guy around the corner just strolls up and fks me up!!! WTF!!!

[darkslayer1458]

If you cant melee either when coming out of a roadie run, then i welcome this tweak. If its only shooting thats delayed, then screw it.

[Gearsofwarfan47]

Umm how about let go of A and shoot, seriously stfu.

Aww this is kinda cute, the tyke can't stand for people to diss his epic.

[Sgt.Milkajug]

Well now the only thing the shotgun had similar to Gears1 shotgun is taken away.For people asking if you can melee people right off a roadie run/roll, the answer is yes.Meaning this change will not affect two-piecers since they can still melee and then shoot right after a roadie run.

Its also impossible to roll or side-roll and shoot in the same time so while your dancing with your opponent with the shotgun, the only thing you can do is walk left and right lolz.

[PR0JECTMAYH3MxX]

I Wish This Was Gears of War (1).

[Chrono7rigger]

very very dumb! what if u go to get a downed kill and some1 is reviving him.. you have to stand there and look at the effin kid for two whole seconds before you shoot... or iff you are going to help you team m8 in combat... you expect me to walk there so by the time i get there i can shoot my gun like seriously this has to be the dumbest idea ever..... not only that but you can run up and two piece some1 but not run up and shoot them ..... which means more two piecing WOOHOO .........

[A_SILENT_EMU]

Isn't this an attempt to reduce 2 piecing?

That's a joke it promotes 2 piecing because you can still melee straight out of roadie run.

[EmbraceTheOne]

Isn't this an attempt to reduce 2 piecing?

this makes more 2 piecing more because the player cant shoot, so they melee then shoot..

[kilzone]

!!!! hell this increases the 2 piece!!!!!
people come on!!!!
now all there going to do is roadie run at you and 2 piece you!!
WTF you guys smokein!!!
this was the only way i could not stop from turning to the DARK side
(start 2 piecing people) !!!
i NEVER 2 pieced NEVER !!!
now they take out the ''superman''!!!
this game is slower then chess now -.-

PS:PUT SUPERMAN BACK!!!!!! ON TU3!!! PLS!!!!!! I CANT WAIT FOR GEARS 3 FOR YOU GUYS OT FIX THIS!!!

[monkeyinmyhead]

I think in the first gears it upset noobs who cant simply pull the trigger first

[pr0 b0uNcA]

this is a bad thing cause i cant just run up to them and shoot them i have to wait 1 sec and while i waited that second i get shot first this is bad..

[x RaNdoM x]

OMG I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY TOOK THIS OUT... IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!! i sold gears after they took it out.. am waiting for next update.. if they put it back in lemme know ill go buy it again..

[x RaNdoM x]

DO NOT TAKE OUT 2PIECING OUT YOU MORONS!!!!.. WITH LAG ITS A MUST IN THE GAME.. THE SHOTTY SUCKS WITH LAG.. BUT YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS RIGHT HERE --> Removed the ability to instantly shoot coming out of a roadie run. <---- WHATS WRONG WITH THAT ABILITY??? WHY ARE WE TAKING ABILITIES OUT?? HMMM??? CHANGE IT BACK EPIC!!i wanna enjoy gow2 before the new XBOX FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! SHEESH!!! QUIT CHANGING STUFF THAT DONT NEED CHANGING!!! IF THE NEXT UPDATE DOES NOT FIX the ability to shoot imediatley after roadie running.. I WILL KILL MY SELF AND BLAME IT ON EPIC!!! I SWEAR TO GOD!!

[EXTREME NOOBHUNTER]

It seems that this will only encourage 2-piecing even more!

[x RaNdoM x]

Because it's a pain in the ass when someone simply runs up to you/rolls up to you and shoots you in the head immediately after coming out of the roady run/roll.

lots of thin gs are a pain in the ass just shoot them first IDIOT!! damn no skill when kids cant play a GAME THEY WANT IT CHANGED FOR THIER LIKING gow2 origiNAL was the best not this new buill**** they put out epic sucks GOW 1 was garbage now gow 2 is turning into garbage..

[JGabriel]

Isn't this an attempt to reduce 2 piecing?

It's only provoking it because you can still melee out of a roll.

[BoomerBrian]

They need to change it back for sure IMO. Because of the change I find myself chainsawing more often because of it. If I see someone I can run up on because they don't see me I just chainsaw them now because I can't run up behind them and gib them with the shotty.