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    To reduce the numbers of quiters in GoW 2 i thought of a new quiting penalty.

    Lets say a guy quit in a 19 round ranked match when his team had 3 wins. He will automatically lose 100 points and the match will count as a loss on the leaderboard, regardless of the score. But then, since he quit when his team only had 3 wins, he will have 16 deaths added to his Leaderboard Score (19-3=16).

    If he was in a 10 round game and quit when his team had 5 rounds won, he would still lose 100 points and a loss counted towards his leaderboard score, but he would only have 5 more deaths counted towards his leaderboard (10-5=5).

    If this quiting penalty was implemented in Gears 2, it would not only stop more players from quiting, but it would have the quiters trying to stay in the match for as long as possible so they would have less deaths counted towards their leaderboard score.

    (Amount of Rounds to win - Amount of Rounds Quiter has Won = Amount of deaths counted towards their leaderboards)
    Ex: 7 rounds - 2 rounds won = 5 deaths

    I think that the players kills and deaths from the game they quit from should still be counted towards their leaderboards, but then they will have extra deaths counted against them depending on how long they stayed in the game

    If the host quits he would be penalized but not the disconnected players.

    Please post your comments and if you have any ideas to improve this idea please say so.

    EDIT: If you keep getting lagged out then either get a better connection or stop joining red/yellow connections. If it happens once or twice than its nothin to cry about.

    If there is a real life emergency than i think you should know whats more important. Don't let your roommate die in the other room because you chose you wanted to have more points added to your virtual score.
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    when u join a ranked match, the menus to quit should be removed! so you where forced to play the ranked match till the end... the only way to quit a ranked match would be to eject the disc ot turn off the console

    what do u think about this?^^
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    when u join a ranked match, the menus to quit should be removed! so you where forced to play the ranked match till the end... the only way to quit a ranked match would be to eject the disc ot turn off the console
    Dude hell yeah! I seriously second that one, but the first one too. Maybe both of them. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    To reduce the numbers of quiters in GoW 2 i thought of a new quiting penalty.

    Lets say a guy quit in a 19 round ranked match when his team had 3 wins. He will automatically lose 100 points and the match will count as a loss on the leaderboard, regardless of the score. But then, since he quit when his team only had 3 wins, he will have 16 deaths added to his Leaderboard Score (19-3=16).

    If he was in a 10 round game and quit when his team had 5 rounds won, he would still lose 100 points and a loss counted towards his leaderboard score, but he would only have 5 more deaths counted towards his leaderboard (10-5=5).

    If this quiting penalty was implemented in Gears 2, it would not only stop more players from quiting, but it would have the quiters trying to stay in the match for as long as possible so they would have less deaths counted towards their leaderboard score.

    (Amount of Rounds to win - Amount of Rounds Quiter has Won = Amount of deaths counted towards their leaderboards)
    Ex: 7 rounds - 2 rounds won = 5 deaths

    I think that the players kills and deaths from the game they quit from should still be counted towards their leaderboards, but then they will have extra deaths counted against them depending on how long they stayed in the game

    If the host quits he would be penalized but not the disconnected players.

    Please post your comments and if you have any ideas to improve this idea please say so.
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    Well i think epic should hire some assassins to kill all the d-bags that quit all the time!

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    ....But who cares if deaths get added to their leaderboard? And what if it's not a ranked match?
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    Great ideas!! Plus if you quit a certain amount of times you automatically get locked out for a period of time... maybe one day first, then one week, then one month, then permanent ban. Must get new XBL account then to play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoPrincess View Post
    Great ideas!! Plus if you quit a certain amount of times you automatically get locked out for a period of time... maybe one day first, then one week, then one month, then permanent ban. Must get new XBL account then to play!
    Er, no...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locust General View Post
    Er, no...

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    For some reason I retardedly laughed at the above.

    Anyway, it would be a good idea, but I think mine is better - because I am cool. Sort of? A little bit? Nah?

    I have a good one - replace the person who left with a bot? He is punished by loosing all kills in that match - but keeps the deaths. As host someone else is selected to host, and original host is replaced with a bot, and gets the same punishments.

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    All this quitting penalty stuff is swinging more to the negative side. See, if someone gets disconnected then what? or if there is a real life emergency out of no where? What if there is a whole team full of glitchers? The bad out weighs the good once you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burned Remains View Post
    Well i think epic should hire some assassins to kill all the d-bags that quit all the time!
    omg yes thats the best!!!! lmao
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    i dont think they would add deaths to the leaderboards but it should definately count as a loss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    All this quitting penalty stuff is swinging more to the negative side. See, if someone gets disconnected then what? or if there is a real life emergency out of no where? What if there is a whole team full of glitchers? The bad out ways the good once you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    All this quitting penalty stuff is swinging more to the negative side. See, if someone gets disconnected then what? or if there is a real life emergency out of no where? What if there is a whole team full of glitchers? The bad out ways the good once you look at it.
    Do you want there to be positives to quiting? "Quit and you have the match counted as a win and have 10 kills added to your leaderboard".

    If someone gets disconnected then they should fix their connection or stop joinin red/yellow ones.

    If theres an emergency, whats more important? Your best friends life or a video game?

    They're fixing alot of the glitches in Gears 2 and really testing to make sure there arent any major glitches in it. The glitches in GoW2 are probly gonna be minor and have less of an advantage than in GoW1.

    More ppl quit then the above circumstances occur. But a better quiting penalty can fix that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core2TOM View Post
    when u join a ranked match, the menus to quit should be removed! so you where forced to play the ranked match till the end... the only way to quit a ranked match would be to eject the disc ot turn off the console

    what do u think about this?^^
    This is a good idea, also. But, lag is a big factor. And forcin' players to perhaps repeatedly play in laggy matches (or with Glitchers) is not fair. So I still think that makin' players wait for 5 minutes is the best idea. Some even leave perfectly lag-free matches. But, havin' to wait for 5 minutes will certainly force players to wisely pick the matches they quit, but not force us more reasonable players to play with lag, or with Glitchers.

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    If you quit you shound go down in rank you know what i mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    Do you want there to be positives to quiting? "Quit and you have the match counted as a win and have 10 kills added to your leaderboard".

    If someone gets disconnected then they should fix their connection or stop joinin red/yellow ones.

    If theres an emergency, whats more important? Your best friends life or a video game?

    They're fixing alot of the glitches in Gears 2 and really testing to make sure there arent any major glitches in it. The glitches in GoW2 are probly gonna be minor and have less of an advantage than in GoW1.

    More ppl quit then the above circumstances occur. But a better quiting penalty can fix that.

    Answer me this JUSTxINSAN3, did I say make it positive? Did I? I said it would be a bad idea. It's sad that you would have your best friend die so you can win a match on a game... Sure count it as a loss, or just don't count anything at all for quitting (Games played number/kills/deaths/matches won, everything.)
    I was mostly addressing the quitting ban people keep throwing out there, so you might want to think or at least read a post right before you jump to conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoPrincess View Post
    Great ideas!! Plus if you quit a certain amount of times you automatically get locked out for a period of time... maybe one day first, then one week, then one month, then permanent ban. Must get new XBL account then to play!
    And after too many times, it just auto-RRODs your box, and tilts it so the Gears disc is unusable. Then it sends out a radio-active signal that burns your manual and melts the box, as well as your $130 Lancer, if you bought it.

    Also it punches you in the groin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Dancer View Post
    And after too many times, it just auto-RRODs your box, and tilts it so the Gears disc is unusable. Then it sends out a radio-active signal that burns your manual and melts the box, as well as your $130 Lancer, if you bought it.

    Also it punches you in the groin.
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    Good ideas but that wouldn't work all the time.

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    As much as I enjoy the idea of the persecution of quitters, that fact that a connection might have failed or a power cut must be distinguished between a quit. Then I will be fine with this reduction in points and rep etc.

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    You need a harsh qiutting rule, thats if they are keeping in Ranked/Player matches.

    Like a few more deatsh on my stats not to worried, neither about wins, you can even that ratio out in a few games, its not like you qiut ALOT. Usualy players only qiut because players in the room are to good, but the new Trueskill system might solve that, and the other reason people qiut is because of lag, even though it shows full ping on the list, the majority of them are laggy still.

    So if they fix these liek i think they will, qiutting wont be such a big problem..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    All this quitting penalty stuff is swinging more to the negative side. See, if someone gets disconnected then what? or if there is a real life emergency out of no where? What if there is a whole team full of glitchers? The bad out weighs the good once you look at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    Do you want there to be positives to quiting? "Quit and you have the match counted as a win and have 10 kills added to your leaderboard".

    If someone gets disconnected then they should fix their connection or stop joinin red/yellow ones.

    If theres an emergency, whats more important? Your best friends life or a video game?

    They're fixing alot of the glitches in Gears 2 and really testing to make sure there arent any major glitches in it. The glitches in GoW2 are probly gonna be minor and have less of an advantage than in GoW1.

    More ppl quit then the above circumstances occur. But a better quiting penalty can fix that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    Answer me this JUSTxINSAN3, did I say make it positive? Did I? I said it would be bad idea. It's sad that you would have your best friend die so you can win a match on a game... Sure count it as a loss, or just don't count anything at all for quitting (Games played number/kills/deaths/matches won, everything.)
    I was mostly addressing the quitting ban people keep throwing out there, so you might want to think or at least read a post right before you jump to conclusions.
    You were implyin to make it less negative, which is swinging towards the positive side, is it not?

    Jumping to conclusions? You automatically think that i would let my best friend die over a game when i was obviously not implyin that.

    Your against the idea because you quit way to often and you just want to continue that in Gears 2. How many emergencies a day do you have? How many times do you lag out? Fix your connection already. Oh and you never once mentioned the banning quiters idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burned Remains View Post
    Well i think epic should hire some assassins to kill all the d-bags that quit all the time!
    amen, ALL QUITERS MUST DIE!!!!! I am so sick of people quiting because they lost a round, their needs to be some sort of penalty, and i like the idea of adding deaths and losses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Core2TOM View Post
    when u join a ranked match, the menus to quit should be removed! so you where forced to play the ranked match till the end... the only way to quit a ranked match would be to eject the disc ot turn off the console

    what do u think about this?^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    You were implyin to make it less negative, which is swinging towards the positive side, is it not?

    Jumping to conclusions? You automatically think that i would let my best friend die over a game when i was obviously not implyin that.

    Your against the idea because you quit way to often and you just want to continue that in Gears 2. How many emergencies a day do you have? How many times do you lag out? Fix your connection already. Oh and you never once mentioned the banning quiters idea.
    I never lag out. I only quit the matches with all the damn glitchers in it. I'm not going to continue anything in Gears 2, unless there are new, cheaper glitches in there then I'll just stop playing the game like I did in gears 1. Less negative as in negative but less, read it correctly and put some brain effort into it next time. Count it as a loss but no 24 hour ban or permanent ban, that’s ridiculous cause of the collateral of people that actually have to quit cause they need to do something in real life. I'm just looking out for the little guy, spotting the negatives, nothing works perfectly. and it's spelled with two o's, "too", and your missing all the g's after "ing" and quitters is with two t's.

    Oh, and I never typed anything remotely familiar to making anything less negative in my first posted you flamed on.
    Seriously go back and read it, your attempts on making me look stupid aren't working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    I never lag out. I only quit the matches with all the damn glitchers in it. I'm not going to continue anything in Gears 2, unless there are new, cheaper glitches in there then I'll just stop playing the game like I did in gears 1. Less negative as in negative but less, read it correctly and put some brain effort into it next time. Count it as a loss but no 24 hour ban or permanent ban, that’s ridiculous cause of the collateral of people that actually have to quit cause they need to do something in real life. I'm just looking out for the little guy, spotting the negatives, nothing works perfectly. and it's spelled with two o's, "too", and your missing all the g's after "ing" and quitters is with two t's.

    Oh, and I never typed anything remotely familiar to making anything less negative in my first posted you flamed on.
    Seriously go back and read it, your attempts on making me look stupid aren't working.
    Less negative = more positive

    there hopefully you can understand that.

    Its true that u didnt type anything to make the quitting less negative... in the first post, but you just did in this post. "Count it as a loss but no 24 hour ban or permanent ban, that’s ridiculous..." I never once mentioned or supported that idea and somehow you think that this thread is about that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core2TOM View Post
    when u join a ranked match, the menus to quit should be removed! so you where forced to play the ranked match till the end... the only way to quit a ranked match would be to eject the disc ot turn off the console

    what do u think about this?^^
    Turning the 360 off or signing out, or just leaving your 360 on and leaving the console would bypass that, it's a horrible idea.

    You should lose a lot more than 100 points, because that's only about 5 kills. You should lose 400 or more points, and you can't play a game until the one you quit ends.

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    I think that they shouldn't have too much xp taken or too many deaths added....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    Less negative = more positive

    there hopefully you can understand that.

    Its true that u didnt type anything to make the quitting less negative... in the first post, but you just did in this post. "Count it as a loss but no 24 hour ban or permanent ban, that’s ridiculous..." I never once mentioned or supported that idea and somehow you think that this thread is about that idea.

    Oh and im so sorry, Mom, that i misspelled words. Keep pointing out mistakes and then tell me when i should care.

    Stop wasting my time and dont reply unless you have something more important to say than how i type words.
    Well this IS your thread so you support the idea of the banning sh*t. And your damn right I'm yo' mama'! Also that’s the smartest thing I've seen you type, I am going to stop typing in this messily thread, no reason I should keep making it be one of the top threads out there.
    I’m just looking out for the poor people that will be punished for no reason if this idea comes to light, just for having to do something urgent... As anyone can tell, you don’t give a damn, anything to make Your play experience better and no one else.
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    How about we attach wires to the player's BALLSACK and they get a massive electric shock when they quit?!?! Would that make you guys happy?!

    Losing points or stats is good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imortalfalcon View Post
    Well this IS your thread so you support the idea of the banning sh*t. And your damn right I'm yo' mama'! Also that’s the smartest thing I've seen you type, I am going to stop typing in this messily thread, no reason I should keep making it be one of the top threads out there.
    I’m just looking out for the poor people that will be punished for no reason if this idea comes to light, just for having to do something urgent... As anyone can tell, you don’t give a damn, anything to make Your play experience better and no one else.
    Please legitly quote me when i said "I agree with 24 hour ban idea" or even implied that, I would love to see that.

    All im doin is laying out another quitting penalty idea out there because way too many ppl quit in ranked matches today. More ppl quit than those urgent circumstances happen. You for some reason dissagree with that and you want ppl to continue ruining ppls matches and fun.

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    One possible way to reduce quiting is to track the quit/disconnect verus complete match ratio and try to matchmake according to that ratio. That way, quiters can get to play with quiters more often.

    Since its a ratio(its get lower if you have more completed matchs), you dont necessary penalise those who have to leave or "force to quit".

    A minimum numbers of matches should be collected before it should be used so players doesnt get a bad raito with small numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerKink View Post
    One possible way to reduce quiting is to track the quit/disconnect verus complete match ratio and try to matchmake according to that ratio. That way, quiters can get to play with quiters more often.

    Since its a ratio(its get lower if you have more completed matchs), you dont necessary penalise those who have to leave or "force to quit".

    A minimum numbers of matches should be collected before it should be used so players doesnt get a bad raito with small numbers

    I like that idea. As for punishing quitters, I think that once your ratio gets to a certain amount and you quit, you shouldn't be allowed to play for a certain amount of time. Say the first time its only for like 10 minutes. Then you quit your ratio gets worse and it goes to 20 minutes. So on and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jambi Bum View Post
    I like that idea. As for punishing quitters, I think that once your ratio gets to a certain amount and you quit, you shouldn't be allowed to play for a certain amount of time. Say the first time its only for like 10 minutes. Then you quit your ratio gets worse and it goes to 20 minutes. So on and so forth.
    Isnt matchmaking quiters with quiters a bad enough things to do.

    Its almost like giving you a taste of your own medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerKink View Post
    Isnt matchmaking quiters with quiters a bad enough things to do.

    Its almost like giving you a taste of your own medicine.
    Which would be awesome
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    Yeah, removing the quit button is the best idea, along with it being counted as a lose or losing points. etc. cause it only takes like 30seconds to load the game back up again.

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    it's annoying how many people quit ranked matches now. I personally feel that it has gotten much worse lately, so a solution (any) has to be found for Gears 2, especially with a fresh batch of new players that will be trying out the game don't let them learn the bad habits. Quitting early ruins it for everyone! It just sucks waiting so long for a room to fill then someone quits after just the first round bc they are getting pwned!!!

    No quit button, quitter matchmaking, and time penalty all sound like great ideas )

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTxINSAN3 View Post
    EDIT: If you keep getting lagged out then either get a better connection or stop joining red/yellow connections. If it happens once or twice than its nothin to cry about.

    If there is a real life emergency than i think you should know whats more important. Don't let your roommate die in the other room because you chose you wanted to have more points added to your virtual score.
    i was actually planning to kill my roomate because i want the 360 to myself
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