Can UT 3 mods make it 3rd Person?

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 01:45 AM

Man, this game is soo great i cant believe kudos to the team!

I was wondering, I played Gears of war A LOT , it was the reason why i bought this game on import. The only thing that would make it even better was if we could somehow make it 3rd person, I mean the characters look s00 cool when using the hoverboard Is it possible for the mods to make it 3rd person, that would be so great.. anyway kudos again for the team making this game so cool.

**AnubanUT2** · 12-22-2007, 01:50 AM

There is a mutator already for the PCs and I have it included in a Pack of essential mutators that I am trying to nicely nudge Epic to cook by dropping hints on every thread I can. I already know these 11 mutators (10 now because one of them is the VAS autoshields and they did convert that one) will go over extremely well with PS3 users because it is all the things they have been clamoring for and each respective mod author did an excellent job with them.

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 01:54 AM

OMG so you are saying that it is possible for 3rd person view, even on PS3?(cos i got one) ... When do you think we ps3 users can have it ?

OMG OFFICALLY UT 3 BEST GAME.

If you need some help in the spread i might be able to have some people join the forums to make it happen.

**AnubanUT2** · 12-22-2007, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Buddyluve

OMG so you are saying that it is possible for 3rd person view, even on PS3?(cos i got one) ... When do you think we ps3 users can have it ?

OMG OFFICALLY UT 3 BEST GAME.

If you need some help in the spread i might be able to have some people join the forums to make it happen.

LOL .. yeah sure ... just keep telling Epic that you would like them to cook Anubans Fav Mutator Pack .. go to this thread and get other PS3 users to ask for all these mutators as well. These devs deserve some real credit and for their work to be spread.

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=593800

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 02:19 AM

yeah taking care of that...

**c64days** · 12-22-2007, 05:09 AM

I also would love to see unreal as 3rd person shooter.

epic: please coock it for us :-)

**KriLL3.8™** · 12-22-2007, 05:13 AM

I don't see why people would want it to be third person, your character is in the way of your vision and that's the only thing it really adds, a rear view of your bum, I can understand why Tomb Raider is third person, but UT3? No thanks.

**poulet-7** · 12-22-2007, 05:21 AM

totally agree.

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 05:26 AM

thats because some people just prefer 3rd person, especially with consoles. And some play better when in 3rd person.

**KriLL3.8™** · 12-22-2007, 05:31 AM

Buddyluve: that doesn't make sense.

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by KriLL3.8™

Buddyluve: that doesn't make sense.

sorry I should have been more clear on that

What i wanted to say was that for the same reasons some would prefer 1st person view, others prefer 3rd person. Epic did some great work on the character models, it would be nice for them to show it off.

**Sourpuss** · 12-22-2007, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Buddyluve

Man, this game is soo great i cant believe kudos to the team!

I was wondering, I played Gears of war A LOT , it was the reason why i bought this game on import. The only thing that would make it even better was if we could somehow make it 3rd person, I mean the characters look s00 cool when using the hoverboard Is it possible for the mods to make it 3rd person, that would be so great.. anyway kudos again for the team making this game so cool.

Why would you want to make it third person? Why would you want to have a third-person obstructed view? I can't figure out why any third-person FPS games are even produced in the first place.

**Henrik** · 12-22-2007, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by KriLL3.8™

and that's the only thing it really adds, a rear view of your bum, I can understand why Tomb Raider is third person, but UT3? No thanks.

Come on Krill, you know nothing's hotter than Krall ass.

**KriLL3.8™** · 12-22-2007, 09:09 AM

Mm, anthropomorphic reptiles, the hotness. *vomits*

**edictzero** · 12-22-2007, 09:20 AM

3rd person is nice with a cover system, otherwise i have no preference

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 09:40 AM

yes exaclty.

**alfaphlex** · 12-22-2007, 10:18 AM

Having 3rd person view will not only change the feel of UT, but also change the leveled playing field. I'm a console gamer myself and played GoW seriously (clans/tournies) for a while and enjoyed it, but it had it's own system built specifically around 3rd person pov. I prefer 1st person and I never whined about not having it in Gears because it would change the way the game was meant to be played.

In every 3rd person shooter I've played, and even gears, people just take advantage of the 3rd person pov to stand behind a corner and peak while being hidden until someone gets close enough. Imagine someone doing that with a flak cannon or charged up bio or rocket launcher.

Also in deathmatch, 3rd ppov players will have the huge advantage of a much higher viewing area both vertically and horizontally. People who prefer 1st person shouldn't feel forced to change their view just to not feel disadvantaged, after all, it's the 1st person pov player that this series was made for.

Again, I am a console gamer, haven't played PC FPS since the CS1.6 prime days, and I agree that anyone whining about not having a 3rd person view in a UT game should stick to playing GoW, Warhawk, or wait for the next Socom.

Sorry about the rant, but you'd think that so many people who waited for the release of this game would have accepted the fact that it is a FPS beforehand and not "oh well, I guess they'll have to change the way it's meant to be played just cuz I bought it and prefer it differently".

**Viper29** · 12-22-2007, 10:43 AM

Yes, I WANT IT....NOW. please Dude Do it...please

**Buddyluve** · 12-22-2007, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Viper29

Yes, I WANT IT....NOW. please Dude Do it...please

if you want it go to here:

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=594272

**Kry-Vin** · 12-22-2007, 11:28 AM

Gamers love choice, may as well give it to them. If third person is a sought after mutator then sure what's the harm in throwing it in. And sure i wouldn't mind having a go of it, i reckon it'd be a laugh.

**ACIDSMOKER** · 12-22-2007, 04:06 PM

This would be badass... so epic please get on it.

**AnubanUT2** · 12-22-2007, 04:15 PM

I also like playing in 3rd person from time to time as it cool to check out your character and offers a really different experience. I have included a great 3rd person mutator in my Fav mutator pack v1.03. Just get Mark Rein to cook this complete pack (link is below) and you PS3 folks will have all the essential mutators that we PC users have. Take a moment and check out the great mutators in my pack. Good luck ... there are plenty of folks on the PC that play this game in 3rd person offline that's why the mutator exists. It is a lot different from using "behind view" since the aiming reticle is in the correct perspective.

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/sho...d.php?t=593800

**drjacobs** · 12-22-2007, 05:17 PM

There is a problem with 3rd person view though, the crosshair does not line up properly to your shot. You have to aim above your shot to hit your target. This sucks, if this could be fixed 3rd person could be alright.

**guitar_hero** · 12-22-2007, 05:31 PM

I'd enjoy third person in unreal and even over the shoulder like residentevil 4 would be awesome.

**hawke1170** · 12-22-2007, 05:32 PM

I'd love to have a 3rd person or even an over the shoulder mod. I have played UT for years, but I've been a SOCOM player just as long. I'd be able to get a good 70% of my clan on this game then (cause they don't like 1st person).

The other thing that I would like to see available is the toolset for those of us that have purchased the PS3 version. I'd love to dabble in it... even though I'm probably going to get the comp version anyway...

**freddosladen** · 12-22-2007, 05:57 PM

ok this is the obvious answer but err

F10

then type behindview 1

**AnubanUT2** · 12-22-2007, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by drjacobs

There is a problem with 3rd person view though, the crosshair does not line up properly to your shot. You have to aim above your shot to hit your target. This sucks, if this could be fixed 3rd person could be alright.

The mutator that I have as part of my pack fixes that problem so aiming in third person is just like aiming in first person. You are dead on target. It is not the same as using the behind view command. That is why it is such a great mutator.

**traumatism** · 12-22-2007, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by alfaphlex

Having 3rd person view will not only change the feel of UT, but also change the leveled playing field. I'm a console gamer myself and played GoW seriously (clans/tournies) for a while and enjoyed it, but it had it's own system built specifically around 3rd person pov. I prefer 1st person and I never whined about not having it in Gears because it would change the way the game was meant to be played.

In every 3rd person shooter I've played, and even gears, people just take advantage of the 3rd person pov to stand behind a corner and peak while being hidden until someone gets close enough. Imagine someone doing that with a flak cannon or charged up bio or rocket launcher.

Also in deathmatch, 3rd ppov players will have the huge advantage of a much higher viewing area both vertically and horizontally. People who prefer 1st person shouldn't feel forced to change their view just to not feel disadvantaged, after all, it's the 1st person pov player that this series was made for.

Again, I am a console gamer, haven't played PC FPS since the CS1.6 prime days, and I agree that anyone whining about not having a 3rd person view in a UT game should stick to playing GoW, Warhawk, or wait for the next Socom.

Sorry about the rant, but you'd think that so many people who waited for the release of this game would have accepted the fact that it is a FPS beforehand and not "oh well, I guess they'll have to change the way it's meant to be played just cuz I bought it and prefer it differently".

i have to agree here. if the server permits 3rd person then thats fine, but to use it on a server where every one else is using 1st person is just plain annoying. the person with 3rd person view will have a higher advantage over the people who play first person. im nopt against the idea aslong as there was a way to allow it or not in the games

**Obscurite** · 12-22-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Kry-Vin

Gamers love choice, may as well give it to them. If third person is a sought after mutator then sure what's the harm in throwing it in. And sure i wouldn't mind having a go of it, i reckon it'd be a laugh.

I will agree with this. Gamers do love choice and the Unreal Tournament games have stressed on trying to make this an essential part of the game. There's no denying it, that's why Epic ships their tools including a PLE version of Maya which the Ueditor has adopted a few features from in the PC versions of their games. Anyone who says otherwise has little knowledge of the Unreal franchise.

**AnubanUT2** · 12-22-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by traumatism

i have to agree here. if the server permits 3rd person then thats fine, but to use it on a server where every one else is using 1st person is just plain annoying. the person with 3rd person view will have a higher advantage over the people who play first person. im nopt against the idea aslong as there was a way to allow it or not in the games

Well this is one of the reasons there is an offline Instant Action mode where you can play against bots. People really don't have to go online ... many people in the PC UT community are offline bot only gamers and this is where we use mutators like these and the other ones found in the pack in my sig.

**PristineSneakers** · 12-22-2007, 09:12 PM

I registered just to cast my vote, I'd love to see 3rd person UT3 come to PS3. Please make this happen

**PristineSneakers** · 12-22-2007, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by traumatism

i have to agree here. if the server permits 3rd person then thats fine, but to use it on a server where every one else is using 1st person is just plain annoying. the person with 3rd person view will have a higher advantage over the people who play first person. im nopt against the idea aslong as there was a way to allow it or not in the games

I don't think it would be too much trouble to have a room show whether or not 3rd person is enabled, it's similar to people who do/don't want to play with PS3 players using a kb & mouse while they're on a sixaxis, just a simple matter of adding a filter. I agree, 3rd person support, but with filters for people who don't want to mingle.

**Jre** · 12-23-2007, 12:46 AM

My vote for the "cooking" process is in.

**MAXIMUS_90** · 12-23-2007, 01:30 AM

I not a good player in UT..cause is the first time I play it..but I think it's a suicide play UT in third person..

**Kyllian** · 12-23-2007, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by KriLL3.8™

I don't see why people would want it to be third person, your character is in the way of your vision and that's the only thing it really adds, a rear view of your bum, I can understand why Tomb Raider is third person, but UT3? No thanks.

Not in UT3. I did a Behindview offline and the crosshair was located not only above my head, but weaponfire went where it was, not straight ahead like 2k4

**Esu** · 12-23-2007, 02:11 AM

I used to play Competitive CTF on UT days:P

I used to bind 3rd person View to my mouse 3rd button to trans locate/Run/Dodge much more efficiently.

Would help more on UT3 to avoid static mech & its more fun to watch the character especially now they have a much better run animation/gfx than Crappy UT2kx :P

Any one tried this already on PC?
http://files.filefront.com/MK3rdPers.../fileinfo.html

The author claims its GEOW style With Sniper Zoom done write!

Hope they cook this one for PS3, unless there is another one better than this which I'm not aware of!

**Figboy** · 12-23-2007, 02:17 AM

well, it could be because some of us get motion sick when the camera is in the first person.

i don't get motion-sick, but i have gotten headaches while playing in first person view.

when i play third person view games, however, like Uncharted, or Ratchet and Clank, i don't get those headaches.

it's an option for us, that's all, instead of a rigid structure.

if you like the FPS view, that's great, i do too, but why should some people not be able to play the game because of something as silly as first person view only? options are nice, that's all.

**imaballa** · 12-23-2007, 02:50 AM

Some people are scratching their heads saying why do you want to play UT3 in 3rd person view, thats a stupid question. I want to play it in 3rd pov because of the freaking motion sickness after playing for an hour. Having a center object to look at actually helps get rid of motion sickness.