DM-TowersArena2k9- final done [updated 01/19/2009]

[SEBASTIEN-NOVA]

Ajoutez un autre mirror, pas FileFront.

Why?
the link works and it's fast to DL so...

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Any others comments ?
No bugs ?

So I will release the final version this next days

[stevelois]

Hey

In the first post, just keep the link for the image & get rid of the second line of code (it is use for the publicity) which will prevent the page to be loaded inside the page instead of only 1 full page Testing night tonight

EDIT

I played the map but to tired to comments. I will send you a PM later. Going to bed now, good day

EDIT2

I send you the PM

[SEBASTIEN-NOVA]

Hey

EDIT

I played the map but to tired to comments. I will send you a PM later. Going to bed now, good day

EDIT2

I send you the PM

Thx for your comments, I will make some littles changes according to what you have point at me

Bye

[Staward]

I just played it, its awesome!! i like very much these kind of maps, with the sound effects, alarm when someone gets an item, just awesomely fun

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I just played it, its awesome!! i like very much these kind of maps, with the sound effects, alarm when someone gets an item, just awesomely fun

Great,
exactly what I have try to share with others players with that map, thx

[Dopemgs]

Aw mate I'm sry but I wasn't exactly happy with this map.I played,enjoyed for a while,after that got frustrated from all these jumps.It was kinda slow after a certain period.It was too dark and I couldn't see most enemies.Too much jumping around,too little space for dodging.The redeemer seemed strange because the map was freaking huge and a redeemer couldn't do you no good.
But I gotta say that the music was very good!
To sum up:Too much jumping,adrenaline doesn't pump from it but it has a nice atmosphere.It smells like a tournament map for sure

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...after that got frustrated from all these jumps.It was kinda slow after a certain period. It was too dark and I couldn't see most enemies.Too much jumping around,too little space for dodging.

First, thx for your comments and have take time to test it

It's true this map have a specific (maybe "special") gameplay/layout (I have try to make something original), based on air play action on the top, and a very close combat on the sub-level, so I can understand some players will not like it.
But I think the jumpads can bring a good advantage to those who use it wisely. As for the reedemer, I don't realy understand what you speak about, csz my english sorry...
Otherwise the final release will be more brighten for shure, but not too mush because the atmosphere will be loose...
And thx about music, it's a little remix of an original track from ut2k4 quick selfmade

I hope you will like the next one, based on regular DM gameplay

[Kazimira]

I love the color scheme and the lit arrows working the way thay do it reminded me of the old unreal games.

The jumping was a bit much though way way to much of it needed.

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I love the color scheme and the lit arrows working the way thay do it reminded me of the old unreal games.

Thx for comment

The jumping was a bit much though way way to much of it needed.

Did you mean their are too mush jumpads on it?
If yes, wish one?

[Dopemgs]

Ok so after a second 30 min game I kinda got used to the jumping.But still this map doesn't let me do most of the moves necessary to dodge properly.On the lower level I'm afraid nobody can memorise it properly or use it in his advantage.About the redeemer-the map is too big.The redeemer can't help at all and it's useless. It can only give you 1 to 2 frags,if you're lucky even 3 but it ain't useful and it can sometimes kill you >_>

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On the lower level I'm afraid nobody can memorise it properly or use it in his advantage.

Do you mean it's difficult to find and memorise where are the Jumpads?
Do you suggest me to to find a way to make the lower level more "clearly and understandable" by a player who play the map for the first time?
Because after make some few rounds on it, I think the layout is not very difficult to memorise, it's a symetrical map...

Ok for the redeemer, but with how many bots did you play on it?
I usualy play with 20-30 bots inside.

[Dopemgs]

I played full house. The redeemer almost never could get attached to more than 3 enemies. The lower floor was too hard to go through.You can always fall down and etc. And you can't use anything else than wall-dodging which ain't exactly helpful.maybe you should leave more open room down there.

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I played full house. The redeemer almost never could get attached to more than 3 enemies. The lower floor was too hard to go through.You can always fall down and etc. And you can't use anything else than wall-dodging which ain't exactly helpful.maybe you should leave more open room down there.

Ok.
I will try to explain how I play on it

The best tactical is to reach the upper level as quick as possible (if you don't spawn on it first lol) and grab all weapons on the 4 corners ( the tip is to use jumpads on the 4 uppers corners to reach the 4 weaponbases and the 4 armors quickly via the top of the Udamage's tower-and grab at the same time the Udamage if you are lucky) and then you are full-armed to make some monsterkills on the center lower level ! (ps : me and my friends are addicted to the sound played then lol)
Hope it can help you to have more fun in it...

As for the redeemer, yes it's true is not very helpfull in most case but it's not really affect the gameplay too, morever it's give some cool thrills when a bot take it and you are alerted by the big alarm that a missile is coming !

But I will take note of your suggestion to try to make more open spaces on the lower level, I have already made a version in that way, I will put this version to DL here ASAP

Again, thx for your comments

[Kazimira]

What ever floor your on theres still a large chance of you falling when simply dodgeing and ending up dieing. Theres only so many times I like to die accedently in a map. Its like constantly walking on egg shells yet you have to jump all over them to survive.

[SEBASTIEN-NOVA]

What ever floor your on theres still a large chance of you falling when simply dodgeing and ending up dieing. Theres only so many times I like to die accedently in a map. Its like constantly walking on egg shells yet you have to jump all over them to survive.

I was though it give a little spice's touch to precisely have to take care constently of the holes...

but I have play this map so many times that it's good to have other's players feedbacks and feelings

I will try to re-work the sub-level in that way as I have already said...

Thx

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Repply to Odedge :

Thx a lot for your great private feedback

I will try to explain me and tell you if I follow you or not on the following points according to your PDF Here :

1- Yes, all sources of lights are not already here, I'm on work !

2- I agree with the concept of "main weapons/more risk", but for now I will keep the weapon placement cause of the gameplay on the map, I mean I want to keep the bot repartition over the all map as it's actually.
But I will try to change the flak placement just for private test, and if I think the gameplay is better, I will keep the change

3- This part of the map is not finish, and I agree, need's lighting ASAP !

4- It's not your perception ! the collision is a bit huge for the 4 jumpads on the lower level, I have already fix it.

5- Thx, it's the best I can do for now with my emitter's knowledge (wich is very small).
The effect I give to my jumpads on the UT2004 version was a bit better...

6- I works actually on a re-working of the center part of the lower level, and for shure I try to break the flatness of the floor

7- It's a part of visual not already finished too...

8- I agree, and it's fixed.

9- The platform on the left and right of the main way (with the red arrow) are there to allow players to reach by another way more fast the teleporter who lead to the Invulnerability (by the top of the rocket/stinger tower).

10- It's a lack, thx to point that me

11- I have learn few time ago that it was possible, so I will fix that stuff too

12- I just learn how put the music in the music's channel instead of this for ambient sound, so it will be fixed too on the next beta and you will able to turn off it

13- On the first version, I was made the armor's towers reachable just like you say, by the lower jumpads. I have changed that point to increase the the fastness of the flow inside, but maybe you have right, the layout need a bit more challenge for some items.
I will make a test with comeback to my previous building.

14- For this point, I don't understand what you try to advise me, my english reach is limit here lol

To sum up, still lot's work inside, happily, the chrismas hollidays come

[Odedge]

Thx a lot for your great private feedback

You are welcome.

I will try to explain me and tell you if I follow you or not on the following points according to your PDF Here :

Hahaha, so much for the private feedback.

14- For this point, I don't understand what you try to advise me, my english reach is limit here lol

You have a sound that is activated when a power up (Keg of Health) is available, which is fine as it fits with your theme (Rock concert meets deathmatch!). But when that power up is picked up, everybody (who is paying attention), hears a sound to tell them it's not longer available.

I think this sound should only be heard by the player picking it up. The other players should have to go and see if the power up is still available.

Does that help clear my point up?

[brisingre]

Thanks for making a map about gameplay. That is all.

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Hahaha, so much for the private feedback.

Lol Yes but it was to make it everybody be of benefit of this good feedback

You have a sound that is activated when a power up (Keg of Health) is available, which is fine as it fits with your theme (Rock concert meets deathmatch!). But when that power up is picked up, everybody (who is paying attention), hears a sound to tell them it's not longer available.
I think this sound should only be heard by the player picking it up. The other players should have to go and see if the power up is still available.
Does that help clear my point up?

Yes sir !
I think I will follow your suggestion (again ), especially because it's boring to listen those sounds each time a bots grab it lol

Thx

[SEBASTIEN-NOVA]

New version available on the first post

The last one before the final version ( just a little new S-FX to tweak, fix a bug with lifts, and maybe create an other music)

I have make some visuals changes, added apropriate sound walk step to some materials, rework the lower level for more space to move on, tweaked the lowers jumpads, remade some kismet seq...

I wait your feedbacks...

Bye,
and happy chrismas guys

[stevelois]

Great

I won't have to play it today (I wake up 1 hour ago & I'm going to another party lol) but I'll try it out tomorrow. I'll comment if there is anything. But that B8 look & sound very solid !

THX & Merry Christmas to you Seb !!!

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DM-TowersArena2k9 is finish.
I will release it the next days, bye.

UPDATE Screenshot 03/01/2009 :


Edit : I have to delayed the release of this map cause a trouble with my customs stingers, I try to find a solution...
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=650305

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Final release done, hope you will enjoy it

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=653249

[SkaarjMaster]

I like the low gravity, jumping like a jackrabbit as well as the abundant pickups, neon lights, spotlights and lighting/shadows; a lot of stuff going on here with the excellent music choice, ambient sounds, berzerk, udamage announcement and hat trick; the player recommendation is a bit high and I would think an ideal player load would better fall from 8-16 players; bots are a little easy in here and best played as TDM. Not sure how I missed this one.