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    MUTATOR ZarkRifleFN [BETA]

    1. Name: ZarkRifleFN
    2. Version: 1.0 Beta
    3. Compatibility: UT3
    4. Description: Sniper rifle with increased firerate
    5. Credits: Chris 'Zark' Houghton for the oldschool ut99 Zark
    6. Website: www.fraggednation.com
    7. Download: FILEFRONT
    Last edited by SwaTz0rs; 11-20-2007 at 02:53 PM.
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    Hey thanks!

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    screens?

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    it looks like the sniper rifle as it is supposed to be
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    did someone say zark,

    Here you might need my map http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=584973

    lol

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    YES! YES! Woot! Thank you! This is going to be awesome. I was expecting this in a few weeks.
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    it still needs a lots of fixes e.g arms anim... it's currently disabled just like the reload anim because it looks ****ty when you reload your weapon 3 times a second
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    Hey a work in progress is great. Thank you for working on such an important part of UT history.
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    I'd rather see a new sniper rifle model for the Zark weapon, but whatever.
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    Uglypants: The UT3 sniper is a worthy Zark - unlike the pieces of rubbish most other Zark mods I've seen are. The original UT Zark was done with the classic rifle - the way it's meant to be, really.
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    Thanks. Can't wait to try it out.
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    Great mod! THANK YOU!

    I'd really love to install this on my GameServers.com server. (Vixen's Playhouse, 8.6.75.145) Do you have any idea what needs to be modded server-side in order to get this running?

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    u mean something similar to the serverpackages line? nope havent seen anything like that yet...
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    Please try to make the headshot boxes smaller! It isn't really fun when every shot of mine is a headshot. It feels like I'm playing 2k4 Zark, and thats bad. A few fixes for this and its great. Possibly even upthe firing speed a little bit.

    Good work overall. Thanks for working on a rifle so fast!

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    ill see what i can do
    what fireinterval would u prefer its currently set to 3 shots/ sec

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    i dont think i can make the hitboxes smaller ..... well maybe u can but i couldnt find anything so far...
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    i also wanted to add some variables which will be stored in the ini file to set an individual firerate / max ammout count / ammoamount / ammobox ....but i have to wait until the first patch comes out because the variables stored in the ini wont be used... freaking bug...
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    i was hoping NOT to see this.... GOD... seriously guys... STOP with the Zark auto BS this crap is POLLUTING the UT realm... there's nothing worse than the combination of FORBIDDING movement + MACHINE GUN sniper... it's like saying... "Hey not only can I not aim worth a crap but I have no intention to practice to get better so I'm going to have to ask you to STOP MOVING, so I can hit you...." Do you see what I'm saying? If you wanna SNIPE... play Crysis... I like moving and I don't enjoy being BANNED because I decide I don't wanna stand still for you to shoot.
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    Who said anything about not moving? Zark isn't intended to be used as a camping weapon, but rather as a run-n-gun weapon. Yes, your rifle does fire faster, but so does your opponents. Zark is about dodging rapid enemy gunfire on the fly, kind of like in real life battle.

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    what he said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixen! View Post
    Zark is about dodging rapid enemy gunfire on the fly, kind of like in real life battle.
    If your idea of a real life battle is something out of a John Woo film...
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    yes, that real life depending on where you live, iraq for example im pretty sure its like that in some places

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    You guys rip on zark, yet see nothing wrong with other games with automatic weapons. Camping is "skill," but zark is for those with no skills whatsoever. I don't get it.

    (FOR THE RECORD, I AM A 10 YEAR MILITARY VETERAN)

    Oh well, we all have our opinions....

    Anyway, I added the following to my config:

    [UTGame.UTMutator_WeaponReplacement]
    WeaponsToReplace=(OldClassName="UTWeap_SniperRifle ",NewClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTWeap_ZarkRifleFN ")
    WeaponsToReplace=(OldClassName="UTWeap_ShockRifle" ,NewClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTWeap_ZarkRifleFN")
    WeaponsToReplace=(OldClassName="UTWeap_BioRifle_Co ntent",NewClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTWeap_ZarkRifleF N")
    WeaponsToReplace=(OldClassName="UTWeap_LinkGun",Ne wClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTWeap_ZarkRifleFN")
    AmmoToReplace=(OldClassName="UTAmmo_SniperRifle",N ewClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTAmmo_ZarkRifleFN")
    AmmoToReplace=(OldClassName="UTAmmo_ShockRifle",Ne wClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTAmmo_ZarkRifleFN")
    AmmoToReplace=(OldClassName="UTAmmo_BioRifle_Conte nt",NewClassPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTAmmo_ZarkRifleFN ")
    AmmoToReplace=(OldClassName="UTAmmo_LinkGun",NewCl assPath="ZarkRifleFN.UTAmmo_ZarkRifleFN")

    In the CMD startup I added Mutator=UTGame.UTMutator_WeaponReplacement?

    Still no joy... Any ideas?
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    u also have to add the zarkrifle to the cmd startup

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    I have it running with no problems, i did have to replace the enforcer with it so that its available upon spawn. The only suggestion i have is to increase the fire rate. I run traditional zark and it seems like the fire rate is way to slow unless berzerk is enabled and traditional zark doesnt use berzerk, it sux for the regs. So if you could increase the fire rate to about what it is with berzerk that would be perfect. I do have the game speed mutator running and its still a bit slow. BTW i was on your server and it runs great there but then again u have every weapon replaced and berzerk enabled. So i guess if you could make it so its available on spawn without replacing the enforcer and increase the fire rate slightly it would be perfect. BTW thanks so much for getting this out so fast i was dying without my zark.

    Also any nub in here critisizing zark because its not realistic, go blow yourself and remember this is UNREAL tournament. Go play CSS is u want real.

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    Also i did not have to enable it in my command line just the weapon replacement mutator but i did notice that if you want to run more than one mutator u have to use a comma its not a seperate "?mutator= " line its "?mutator=mymutator,mysecondmutator". Sorry if that doesnt make a whole lot of sense but im not at home to post my actual cl. But what im trying to say is all mutators go in one command. Now if only i could find a fix for peeps not being able to connect to my server through the browser......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain717 View Post
    I have it running with no problems, i did have to replace the enforcer with it so that its available upon spawn. The only suggestion i have is to increase the fire rate. I run traditional zark and it seems like the fire rate is way to slow unless berzerk is enabled and traditional zark doesnt use berzerk, it sux for the regs. So if you could increase the fire rate to about what it is with berzerk that would be perfect. I do have the game speed mutator running and its still a bit slow. BTW i was on your server and it runs great there but then again u have every weapon replaced and berzerk enabled. So i guess if you could make it so its available on spawn without replacing the enforcer and increase the fire rate slightly it would be perfect. BTW thanks so much for getting this out so fast i was dying without my zark.
    im working with someone on a new version. what we want to do is

    A custom ZarkRifle
    Option to choose weather it's a camperrifle or run and gun

    reward:
    ->+x health for killer
    ->+x ammo for killer
    ->+x armor for killer

    disable tracer/beam effect
    replace any weapon you want
    menu
    get the hands anim workin properly

    configurable:
    ->fireinterval
    -> ammo count at spawn
    -> ammo pickup
    -> max ammo count
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixen! View Post
    You guys rip on zark, yet see nothing wrong with other games with automatic weapons. Camping is "skill," but zark is for those with no skills whatsoever. I don't get it.

    (FOR THE RECORD, I AM A 10 YEAR MILITARY VETERAN)

    Oh well, we all have our opinions....

    Still no joy... Any ideas?

    Maybe its because those weapons have RECOIL, and require reloading.. The mini gun in UT is ok because the bullets don't kill you in TWO SHOTS (sniper does 70 DMG a shot if you haven't noticed .... Having an automatic sniper rifle like zark is removing 95% of the skill that aiming requires, simply because it does so much damage.. at the RoF this thing shoots at, it might as well be machinegun instagib... hold down fire, move your mouse in circles approximately near your target and OH look, they died... find another target... repeat. Forget AIMING, as would be required with a normal sniper rifle, just fire and move your mouse... your crosshairs will eventually cross over your target and OMG... you'll get a kill.

    Bottom line, this mod encourages terrible gameplay habbits, such as; spray n pray, bunny hopping, standing still, repugnant aiming, and worst of all: LOSS of the concept of skill. Even though you say it has nothing to do with forcing you to stop.... most servers that Have this mod forbid run'n'gun, disable dodging, and the mere fact that you KNOW of the term "Run 'n' Gun" proves my point... this is made for people who can't aim, don't want to put any effort into improvement, and want the game to be as easy as possible. Its a disgrace to UT. Delete it.
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    Ignoring darksideofnub.... That sounds great Swat, i hope the +hp and +arm is configurable also but it definatly sounds like your on the right track.

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    Darkside, have you ever though about this? If you don't like it, dont play it? It's simple, try it sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain717 View Post
    Ignoring darksideofnub.... That sounds great Swat, i hope the +hp and +arm is configurable also but it definatly sounds like your on the right track.
    nub?, lets 1v1, I'll show you "nub."

    My points are perfectly logical and valid. Your attitude only shows your obvious lack of skill and experience. Allow me to make an example of you, and perhaps show you the error in your line of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by »{LW}«WaR` View Post
    Darkside, have you ever though about this? If you don't like it, dont play it? It's simple, try it sometime.
    This has nothing to do with me not wanting to play it... it's TRASH, it DEGRADES the community, this is UNREAL not Counter Strike, and even CS/MoH/CoD/BF all have recoil. This mod captures n00bs and imprisons them in a vast cell of n00bishness, Surrounding them with shiney objects like easy skilless kills to boost their ego. They don't get ANY better, they pick up terrible habits, then when they come to any regular server.. What do they do? Suck, Whine, Cry, Call Hax, and in general pollute the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by »{LW}«WaR` View Post
    Darkside, have you ever though about this? If you don't like it, dont play it? It's simple, try it sometime.
    BTW This is a question, since I didn't really play UT2004 Very much online. I would think the server's tend to get over saturated with mods like this...Making mods like this hard to avoid sometimes. Truth or bleh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofOZ View Post
    This has nothing to do with me not wanting to play it... it's TRASH, it DEGRADES the community, this is UNREAL not Counter Strike, and even CS/MoH/CoD/BF all have recoil. This mod captures n00bs and imprisons them in a vast cell of n00bishness, Surrounding them with shiney objects like easy skilless kills to boost their ego. They don't get ANY better, they pick up terrible habits, then when they come to any regular server.. What do they do? Suck, Whine, Cry, Call Hax, and in general pollute the community.
    well thats just ur opinion... if u really think its trash don't play it... and zark DOES need skill.... u should try ut99... ull see what i mean
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    I never really seen much skill in zark as being an ex zark player but it is sure a lot of fun !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwaTz0rs View Post
    im working with someone on a new version. what we want to do is

    A custom ZarkRifle
    Option to choose weather it's a camperrifle or run and gun

    reward:
    ->+x health for killer
    ->+x ammo for killer
    ->+x armor for killer

    disable tracer/beam effect
    replace any weapon you want
    menu
    get the hands anim workin properly

    configurable:
    ->fireinterval
    -> ammo count at spawn
    -> ammo pickup
    -> max ammo count
    This is just what i've been waiting for and i have it on a test server at the moment, one complaint from players is that the bots tend to kill you with a headshot most of the time even when set on average skill, is there any way to change that?

    The bonuses for ammo, health and armor are a great idea but i think they should only be for headshots.

    Other features i would like to see......

    DNA Sensor when zooming (to find enemy players hiding in shadows or hidden rooms etc)
    Increase health while crouching
    Faster zoom

    Great job so far and i for one am looking forward to using the finished rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwaTz0rs View Post
    well thats just ur opinion... if u really think its trash don't play it... and zark DOES need skill.... u should try ut99... ull see what i mean
    lol, no it doesn't I Have played since Unreal 1, Zark is one of the worst mods to evr hit the scene simply because it sucks in n00bs because of its ego pumping simplness.
    Sure, pros can come in and wipe everyone out, but thats because they have ALREADY developed and nurtured their skill. My point is that the people who get sucked into this mod and the servers dedicated to it, because its so easy, RETARD their skills... they get WORSE. They depend on spray and pray, non movement, slow low grav, and an excessive amount of damage to kill anything. Their skill either stays the same or gets worse. This isn't about the quality of the mod, its about WHAT it does to the community. Towards the end of UT2004's lifespan almost 3/4 of the populated servers were ZARK... and the players inside were terrible. It's truly sad and frustrating to see all that potential talent wasted on such a black hole for skill as this mod.

    That is all.
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    This mod works well! I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofOZ View Post
    lol, no it doesn't I Have played since Unreal 1, Zark is one of the worst mods to evr hit the scene simply because it sucks in n00bs because of its ego pumping simplness.
    Sure, pros can come in and wipe everyone out, but thats because they have ALREADY developed and nurtured their skill. My point is that the people who get sucked into this mod and the servers dedicated to it, because its so easy, RETARD their skills... they get WORSE. They depend on spray and pray, non movement, slow low grav, and an excessive amount of damage to kill anything. Their skill either stays the same or gets worse. This isn't about the quality of the mod, its about WHAT it does to the community. Towards the end of UT2004's lifespan almost 3/4 of the populated servers were ZARK... and the players inside were terrible. It's truly sad and frustrating to see all that potential talent wasted on such a black hole for skill as this mod.

    That is all.
    LOL. Wow. Just because you hate a mod doesn't nessacarily mean you NEED to degrade it for everyone else.

    Ever friggin' consider he made it FOR FUN and NOT SKILL? And really, I don't even believe in skill much anyway. Is it that complicated to run around with a few keys, jump around, and left or right click with a mouse? I thought not. lol Some people like the idea of rapid fire, and some not at all.

    This may be your OPINION, but there is no need to go all rude about it. Judging by your attitude, you're kind of contradicting yourself. Just because people like this mod doesn't mean you gotta treat them like trash. I don't play UT games online really at all anymore because there are a lot of rude people on there.

    I don't play for skills, I play for fun and I like the idea behind Zark because it's a new take on a favorite weapon of mine, and to be frankly honest, I still switch between the normal sniper rifle and this during matches. I've actually played previous versions of ZarkRifle and I happened to think they were kind of a cool concept.

    Just let the people who like it alone and go about hating it somewhere that there will be less chance of a flame war that could go on.

    'ZOMG. ZARK RIFLE! END OF UT Servers! Run for your lives... '

    Well, I still say way to go... it's come a long way, and thumbs up on your mod SwaTz0rs.

    No offense to that by the way... I just wanted to express my thoughts on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofOZ View Post
    nub?, lets 1v1, I'll show you "nub."

    My points are perfectly logical and valid. Your attitude only shows your obvious lack of skill and experience. Allow me to make an example of you, and perhaps show you the error in your line of thought.
    Nub i have been playing this since 1999 i think that qualifies as experienced. Besides that im just tired of seeing jerks like you chime in for no reason. Zark has been around for 8 years now i dont think one post by some douchebag like you is gonna stop anything. If you dont like it then fine keep your opinion to yourself and move on. There is no need to bash something that someone took their own time and effort to make and distribute for fun.
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