Getting Started Compiling a Mod

[KewlAzMe]

Fantastic! That was UT99 and UT200x greatest annoyance.. So now if a mutator is running the client will auto-download it? UT3 is indeed great!

[geodav]

can some one tell me the correct directory setup for a mod eg for maps and custom packages and how to link them all up cheers

[KewlAzMe]

Read my tutorial about 5 posts back for packages..
Read this tutorial for maps

[geodav]

yep the same mud as on udn, lets see if i can make it clearer, our mod will have maps, characters, weapons, vehicles, pickups, Environments, effects basically its a TC but expanding on UT3 code. in the unpublished/cookedpc folder there are only folders for CustomChars + CustomMaps, do i have to follow this example and make the folders CustomEnvir CustomEffe etc...
according to udn you have to make a extra folder

For your level to be visible in the game menus, it needs to be saved in a subdirectory of CustomMaps?. Anything saved directly in the CustomMaps? directory itself will be ignored. So, you’ll want create a directory that is appropriate to your mod name

so would that then be for me CustomMaps/UT40k or CustomMaps/UT40kmaps, i take it that this should apply to the other folders as well

[KewlAzMe]

Good question. Can you export anything else other than uc files from UED? maybe try that and follow the directory structure that it uses.

[geodav]

nope can't export anything else guess we'll have to wait for the Epic guys to tell us more !

[commander_keen]

I am not able to compile a simple package. I have added the correct things to the ini and the compiler will try to compile the package but will crash and attempt to open system32/dwwin.exe (which i have replaced with mspaint.exe because the original dwwin.exe is pretty much a virus). This is all that is logged:

Init: Version: 3487
Init: Epic Internal: 0
Init: Compiled: Oct 21 2007 03:17:32
Init: Command line:
Init: Base directory: G:\Games\Unreal Tournament 3\Binaries\
Init: Character set: Unicode
Log: Executing Class Editor.MakeCommandlet
--------------------Core - Release--------------------
--------------------Engine - Release--------------------
--------------------GameFramework - Release--------------------
--------------------Editor - Release--------------------
--------------------UnrealEd - Release--------------------
--------------------UnrealScriptTest - Release--------------------
--------------------IpDrv - Release--------------------
--------------------OnlineSubsystemGameSpy - Release--------------------
--------------------OnlineSubsystemLive - Release--------------------
--------------------UTGame - Release--------------------
--------------------UTEditor - Release--------------------
--------------------UTGameContent - Release--------------------
--------------------Poops - Release--------------------

EDIT: oops, had some leftover stuff in the ini's from before

[pingfreak]

I made a weapon with custom sounds and textures that are in a upk file. Where should this file be placed when compiling so that it gets cooked; Or is that a separate process?: if so, How is that done? My main problem is I created a upk file 90 instructions on just one of the materials.. I want this to work... When I compile I get 0 errors and 0 warnings but that's only if I place the upk in the main dir.. ( not cooked ) Otherwise, I get missing references to my upk warnings. When I play/ the weapon has no sound and the textures are missing /( all white gun ). What am I doing wrong? What's also annoying is when I compile using front end all my custom maps get deleted. Also, the only way to use the weapon is by placing both the .u and .upk in the main cookedpc. It won't work in published; I've also tried it using the -useunpublished extension and also tried using the -publish extension

[CVROY]

It should just work on a server. You don't need to do anything to make it download, etc.

What if the mutator is huge, can we compress them to a .uz2 type file like UT2004 and serve them to clients off of a redirect server.

[shadinio]

i've written a simple mutator that just modifies the pawn's JumpZ. compiled successfully, shows up in the mutator list, but does nusin.....what's goin on?! this shouldnt b 2 complicated!!

[DaWrecka]

Here is one hack I know of.. haven't tried it tho:
http://forums.epicgames.com/showpost...7&postcount=21

Here is also one from Microsoft themselves to change the way it works:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147

But I'm with you, I'd rather have it all on my "Game" partition.

The MyGames folder is pure evil. It's really chaotic compared to the Ut2004 mod folder structure.

But you can actually store the mod content and scriptfiles in the directory where UT3 is installed. You just need to create a src folder in UTGame, or define your own in the ModPackages section in the UTEditor.ini file.
The compiled scriptfiles however, are always saved in MyGames\..\Script. But you can also copy the file over to \UTGame\Unpublished\CookedPC\MyMod in the UT3 directory. Content can be put there too.

Mysterial mentioned an easier way...

Specifying -nohomedir might work but I haven't tried it.

I have tried it, and it does work.

[Stefander]

Ouch, an error on my side... ConTEXT didn't save over the old one where I forgot a ;. Spent about 2 hours figuring out why it didn't compile right... I just need sleep I guess It just got compiled, yay Now for some serious scripting action... But first, sleep... It's 4 AM, have to get up at 6:45

[Taboen]

I used the way Mysterial says in topic and it worked. But somehow it doesnt work anymore. Earlier today it did but now it stopped working somehow. It just says 'No scripts need recompiling' even if I delete the .u file. What the h ell?

[KewlAzMe]

I used the way Mysterial says in topic and it worked. But somehow it doesnt work anymore. Earlier today it did but now it stopped working somehow. It just says 'No scripts need recompiling' even if I delete the .u file. What the h ell?

I got this once.. I just ran it again and it worked.. it was a weird fluke

[Taboen]

I got this once.. I just ran it again and it worked.. it was a weird fluke

Tried like 10 times by now...

[Mysterial]

Two ideas that immediately come to mind:
-Your UTEditor.ini got deleted, reset, or otherwise lost the entry about your mod packages.
-You deleted the version in Published, but the script compiler's date checking looks in Unpublished.

[Taboen]

Two ideas that immediately come to mind:
-Your UTEditor.ini got deleted, reset, or otherwise lost the entry about your mod packages.
-You deleted the version in Published, but the script compiler's date checking looks in Unpublished.

Checked UTEditor.ini already the line was still there.
Yea well the thing is it never put anything in Published it was in Unpublished/CookedPC/Script and that's where I deleted it aswell.

[KewlAzMe]

-You deleted the version in Published, but the script compiler's date checking looks in Unpublished.

It doesn't seem to be like the old UT2004 method where if you build it and put it into the System folder, you need to delete that system folder one before it will build again. In UT3, I've ran "make" many times without deleting the previous build U file and it always replaced it for me.

[Pfhoenix]

It's important to note that if you have Package.u in Published\CookedPC\Script and you rebuild Package.u (it being placed in Unpublished), make will also delete Package.u from Published as well.

[KewlAzMe]

It's important to note that if you have Package.u in Published\CookedPC\Script and you rebuild Package.u (it being placed in Unpublished), make will also delete Package.u from Published as well.

ah.. good to know.

[Taboen]

So how do I fix this?

[Geist]

It doesn't seem to be like the old UT2004 method where if you build it and put it into the System folder, you need to delete that system folder one before it will build again. In UT3, I've ran "make" many times without deleting the previous build U file and it always replaced it for me.

Hmm, so how does it know which packages to rebuild? For me, if it sees the .u in the Script folder, it doesn't rebuild it. Except for this 1 package that keeps getting rebuilt when I use my batch file, but not when I execute "ut3 make" directly from a command line... weird.

Another weird thing is that the .u that keeps getting rebuilt is the only one that generates an .ini file, too. Has anyone seen problems with generating .ini files?

EDIT: OK, it seems that if the Script folder is unmodified, that constantly-rebuilding .u doesn't rebuild. So because I was deleting a different .u to rebuild, and only this one has a .ini file, the make commandlet apparently thinks it should rebuild all .u's in the Script folder that have .ini files in Config. Very strange... and I still don't understand why the other packages I'm building don't generate .ini files.

EDIT2: Yep, just confirmed this theory. If the \Script folder is made dirty (by deleting another .u or whatever), the make util deletes the all the .u's that have matching .ini's, then rebuilds them. Any command-line switches to avoid this? Of course, if I knew how to rebuild ONLY a particular .u, it's not as much of a problem, since I wont be deleting .u's anymore.

EDIT3: Disregard that (in EDIT2)... with a few more tests, it's not that simple. All I have to do is edit a .uc file and they all rebuild. I'll try to figure it soon...

[Geist]

Ahhh... help is a wonderful thing... "ut3 help make" says the default behavior is to recompile any package that appears AFTER (in the ModPackages list) a package that is out of date (i.e. needs recompiling). So use -nodelete to change this behavior. It's very cool that it now auto-deletes the .u files, though!

Now if I can just figure out why the .ini files are not generated for these other mutator packages! Anyone?

[KewlAzMe]

default behavior is to recompile any package that appears AFTER (in the ModPackages list) a package that is out of date (i.e. needs recompiling).

That was brought up before.. sorry thought that was known already.

Now if I can just figure out why the .ini files are not generated for these other mutator packages! Anyone?

Are you extending your class to UTMutator or just Mutator? I had accidentally forgot the "UT" part in front of mutator and it wouldn't generate the file for me. So check that.

Also ensure you don't have "bExportMenuData=false" in the defaultprops area.

[pingfreak]

Can someone please explain to me how exactly to 'publish' a mutator you have made?

[MysTikal]

Can someone please explain to me how exactly to 'publish' a mutator you have made?

Put it in the published / private folders?

Check some of the released mutators directory - you just need to move it from Unpublished to the correct directory.

[pingfreak]

But there is a .upk file that goes with it/ how does that get cooked?

This is my situation:
I have made a gun with custom sounds and textures 'materials' rather. When I load the weapon in game, the Gun texture is missing and there is no sound.
0 Errors and 0 Warnings.. and all textures materials sounds and cues referenced.

Please help :/

[Mysterial]

You can just copy them to the appropriate places in the Published directory. You don't need to cook them and for mutators you probably shouldn't.

[{SAP}THEEDGE]

pingfreak...can you explain how you did the sound and sound cue section of your rifle?? What is the relationship between those two things

[Geist]

Are you extending your class to UTMutator or just Mutator? I had accidentally forgot the "UT" part in front of mutator and it wouldn't generate the file for me. So check that.

Also ensure you don't have "bExportMenuData=false" in the defaultprops area.

Yep, I'm extending UTMutator... and nope, I don't have bExportMenuData=false. The strange thing is that after working on a few other mutators, I recompiled and it made 4 .ini files (for past mutators) in a row, as if it finally noticed the .ini files needed creating. *sigh*

So then, it eventually did create them, but I don't know why it's so inconsistent.

[QuinN]

i had a look at creating a mutator anyone stubled across any docs like the php docs for refrence. it would be kl if some one has found some

[KewlAzMe]

Speaking of which.. anyone got a UnCodex working for UT3 code?

And yes I know about these:
http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/In...To_Replication
http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/UT3Mo...%20a%20Mutator

But its still not getting through to me. Perhaps if a tutorial took existing mutators and stepped through the parts that use replication and the parts that are on the server, rather than a generic functions like "DoOnServer()". Need real examples.

[BakerCo]

yes and yes Kisk took care of it http://www.codekisk.com/unreal/ut3/scriptref/

[Athest]

Anyone know a place with tutorials for people who've never before worked with the unreal script and anything involved with it? I'm trying to follow Kewl's tut, but I find myself with no clue what I'm doing and no idea how to fix it.

Update: Ok, what was confusing me was that adding extra mutator command lines, but since I just skipped that I was able to make it compile correctly. I suppose now the only problem would be the actual coding of what I want to happen. Anyone have any good tutorials for this part?

[JaFO]

Speaking of interesting options ...
Anyone got a clue if these do what I think they do :

[ModPackages]
ModPackagesInPath=..\UTGame\Src
ModOutputDir=..\UTGame\Unpublished\CookedPC\Script

I noticed them in UtEditor.ini after running "ut3 make".

[KewlAzMe]

Speaking of interesting options ...
Anyone got a clue if these do what I think they do :

[ModPackages]
ModPackagesInPath=..\UTGame\Src
ModOutputDir=..\UTGame\Unpublished\CookedPC\Script

I noticed them in UtEditor.ini after running "ut3 make".

Yes they do do what you think they do. I have mine redirecting my output to my Server PC's published folder.

[JaFO]

Has anyone noticed that the reported execution-time given by UT3 make is not even close to reality ?

At least on my system the commandlet has the nerves to tell me it took 0.00 seconds to execute when it didn't have to compile anything.
Yet the entire process requires +/- 20 seconds.
I've also noticed that I need to start UT3.COM when starting it from another process.
Is there any reason for this ? (except to confuse users ?).

// -- edit --
Just in case you think that messing with UnrealEditor.ini is too complicated you might want to take a look at a little helper-utility I wrote (it's the basis for a project of mine :
UT3 Magick builder

[2tall]

I added mypackage to the UTeditor.ini but all i get when i run 'ut3 make -full' is

core - release
engine - release
gameframework - release
...
...
...
UTGameContent - release

//edit
when i run 'ut make' i get this message

I tried to compile my mutator and I'm seeing the same thing as what your screenshot shows. I plan on checking everything over again but what did you do to get past this?

[JaFO]

You do have your sources in "mypackage\classes", do you ?
And did you try my MagickBuilder-utility ? (or see Beta-secion of this forum)
That should save you the trouble of trying to manually add those packages to UtEditor.ini ...

[gravity0]

i have used unreal fronted to compile my basic mutator.... everything get far but i cannot find any configuration file in the Config directory