Inconsistent behaviour

[dmbledore]

First off, this is not a complaint or gripe.

Consider the following scenarios:

1. You get tagged and happen to shotty the tagger before you explode. You get a kill, then you explode, and the tagger gets a kill too.

2. If #1 happen where both were the last two players left, the tagger would not get the kill and your side will win the round.

3. You get tagged and he got away and you explode. He gets the kill.

4. You get tagged and followed him and you both explode. He gets a kill and dies via suicide and you don't get a kill. Why doesn't the person that got tagged get a kill as well? Once a person gets tagged, they become a lethal weapon.

What do you think?

[bails]

First off, this is not a complaint or gripe.

Consider the following scenarios:

1. You get tagged and happen to shotty the tagger before you explode. You get a kill, then you explode, and the tagger gets a kill too.

2. If #1 happen where both were the last two players left, the tagger would not get the kill and your side will win the round.

3. You get tagged and he got away and you explode. He gets the kill.

4. You get tagged and followed him and you both explode. He gets a kill and dies via suicide and you don't get a kill. Why doesn't the person that got tagged get a kill as well? Once a person gets tagged, they become a lethal weapon.

What do you think?

I very much agree with number 4.......the person tagged should get a kill also

[OG LaZaRuS]

I don't agree. If you get fragged and happen to shoot and kill him then hell yeah you deserve the kill. But not because you happen to dive in his direction and take him with you. He died because of his own doing and not gaining enough distance so that is suicide. He died as a direct result of the explosion which he/she caused to begin with... make sense?

Just watch your back, keep your distance and blow them to pieces. I sometimes will use the vacuum chainsaw when I know a fragger is approaching at top speed and sometime if timed right you take them out with out being fragged. But if not, at least they are leaving with you!!

[Pwning j00z]

I don't think someone should get credit for a Tag unless they survive it. The only time I think Tagging is lame is if the Tagger never survives the encounter.

[aero405]

1. Fair, makes sense.
2. See below.
3. A well-played tag on his behalf.
4. See below.

I don't think someone should get credit for a Tag unless they survive it. The only time I think Tagging is lame is if the Tagger never survives the encounter.

I agree, and in cases where you're the last two left, a suicide tag should = draw, not win. Part of a successful grenade tag is clearing the blast radius, and this is much harder to do when your opponent is aware that you're going for the tag. That should be part of mastering the weapon.

[imgneevrythng]

so if you throw a nade on the ground, run over it and blow up...the map should get a kill?

the grenade is live. it came from the tagger. its still their grenade. if the person who got tagged would get credit for the kill, then they would have to get a suicide as well.

i do understand what you mean though. its like in WWII when someone threw a grenade in a trench and you were to pick it up and throw it back killing that person, they didnt commit suicide.

but then again, in WWII you couldnt run up to a nazi and tuck a grenade in there coat pocket and run away.

[dmbledore]

so if you throw a nade on the ground, run over it and blow up...the map should get a kill?

That's obviously a suicide.

[HRGeist]

Just my thoughts..

- Its down to 1 on 1 in the match. You get stuck with a grenade from the opponet. You manage to roll back and take him with you. I think they deserve the kill but it shouldnt win the match for them. It should come out as a draw.

[imgneevrythng]

it shouldnt be a draw because you both dont die at the same time. its pretty damn close but still, theres that nano second that the explosion takes to get you . i mean its obvious whoever is close to the nade is gunna die first.

how is it obviously a suicide? what if you threw a grenade and it bounced back and exploded infront of you? you didnt mean for it to happen. that wasnt your intent. its kind of like the map threw the nade back at you. the only way you could suicide is if A) you purposly run over the nade or B) you hold the nade in your hand and allow it to denoate, which you cant do in this game.

the reason why (im guessing) that the tagger gets the kill is because he/she initiates the explosion. without the tagger arming the nade, it would just become a shiny new piece of jewelry.

if anybody was smart theyd see im contradicting myself but ill just let you people figure it out.

[dmbledore]

how is it obviously a suicide? what if you threw a grenade and it bounced back and exploded infront of you? you didnt mean for it to happen. that wasnt your intent.

Intent is irrelevant. You were killed by your own weapon.

[TheBlackSpank]

it shouldnt be a draw because you both dont die at the same time. its pretty damn close but still, theres that nano second that the explosion takes to get you . i mean its obvious whoever is close to the nade is gunna die first.

I think you're splitting hairs. The nano second shouldn't count. It's the same explosion and it takes you down at the same time. I think it shouldn't count as a kill for the player who got tagged, but if they're down to 1 on 1, it really should be a draw. If you're not alive to enjoy the victory, it's not much of a victory.

[imgneevrythng]

You were killed by your own weapon.

accidental death isnt a suicide. some cop was at his 27th birthday party. he got a little drunk and thought it would be a funny idea to pull out his gun. he assured everybody it wasnt loaded. to prove his point he removed the clip and pointed it at his face and pulled the trigger. needless to say, there was one bullet left in the chamber.

was that a suicide?

If you're not alive to enjoy the victory, it's not much of a victory.

very good point.

[dmbledore]

In the gaming world, if you got killed by your own weapon, its a suicide.

[imgneevrythng]

4. You get tagged and followed him and you both explode. He gets a kill and dies via suicide and you don't get a kill. Why doesn't the person that got tagged get a kill as well? Once a person gets tagged, they become a lethal weapon.

What do you think?

In the gaming world, if you got killed by your own weapon, its a suicide.

theres your answer.