just finished my 10 ranked games under patch...(rant i just gotta get it off my chest

**Wakkatana** · 01-09-2007, 09:31 PM

...to test it out. heres what i learned. remember these are all ranked experiences ^_^

1:50% of the player's are little kids who complain when you pick up "their" weapon because they are the only one good with it and you suck with it.
2:strategy has gone out the window, people usually say "what are we gonna do?" and then someone say's some plan, but everyone goes thier own way. NO teamwork.
3:"team stacking" never existed before gears, lots of people complain about playing with freinds for some reason. just because you play with a team does not mean that you are cheating, it means you actually have strategy and teamwork, the other team may complain about it, but come on, seriously. blame yourself not the other team.
4

laying with people you wanted to play with in ranked matches has been around for ages, and it still is. Unreal2k4, quake4, battlefeild 1942/2142, halo 2, splinter cell, ghost recon, rainbow six.....the list goes on. TEAM STACKING DOES NOT EXIST!
5:the nade tag fix was minor but good ^_^ it's still easy but the chainsaw outranges it now
6:most players seem to just rush to the obvious spots and die.
7:9 out of the 10 games i played, i had the highest score, just because my team was terrible i get a loss. logical indeed.

my friends stopped playing player matches once everyone started to quit when they were lossing. so we moved to ranked, but as of now, that is impossible. i am going to continue playing gears for a little while longer, but unless they make it so we can play with our friends in games were people don't quit after 5 minutes, i cannot say how long this game will hold my interest and the interest of my friends.

end rant. and if anyone disagree's i apoligize but this is my opinion. but i am more than happy to here all of yours ^_^.

**Afroman12** · 01-09-2007, 09:33 PM

Well I've been making rants like this with a lotta people on this forum. I think were driving the Epic moderators bonkers and their closing a lot of forums.

Edit: Click my necessary link.

**e7ernalrest** · 01-09-2007, 09:37 PM

they just need to make a team ranking system and make a option to do team based games with your clan.

**Afroman12** · 01-09-2007, 09:39 PM

For some reason I think people who like having their friends (most likely 60% of this forum of people) are going to leave this game when Halo 3 comes out for that multi player since it is team supported (as in able to invite friends).

**TheGuyWhoGetsShot** · 01-09-2007, 09:45 PM

You are very wrong about team-stacking. It pretty much is cheating, because the stackers have played the game and practiced with each other, bringing a good team enviroment and know how to implement strategy. On the other team, you have screechy the twelve year-old, Silent Bob who isnt using a mic, and Captain never-finishes-a-game.

Think about that for a little. How fair is it?

**brent_12** · 01-09-2007, 09:55 PM

I cannot agree more. This term "team stacking" unrightly gives playing with your friends a bad rep. Its not just about playing with friends, its about meeting people and continuing to play. "Join my game again" or "that was a fun match join the next one i make" are often easy ways to play with a new group of people and have fun. It was never about having all my friends on my team, but also included playing against people with healthy rivalries. Just as you saw a spike in xbox live useage after the launch of gears, you will see a drop after this patch, heed our words Epic, and capitolize on the amazing product you have created.

**Afroman12** · 01-09-2007, 09:59 PM

Then they should make a game mode for it. Lol more people will be in that then anything else.

**Jig.Saw** · 01-09-2007, 10:02 PM

I just finished ten ranked games. Every match had 2+ quitters. Yay penalty

**SuspectMisconduct** · 01-09-2007, 10:06 PM

i just played for 2 hours strait and had a blast. everyone should quit crying.

stacking did exist, now that it can't be done so easily, the wankers are crying because now they know what the other team was going through. it was cheating, plain and simple, and now that they can't cheat, the game is broken.
go play halo2, and go back to cheating because it's easy over there. wankers

**Smurphy** · 01-09-2007, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Afroman12

For some reason I think people who like having their friends (most likely 60% of this forum of people) are going to leave this game when Halo 3 comes out for that multi player since it is team supported (as in able to invite friends).

**** i was going to leave this game when halo3 came out anyways but since this crap it just gives me more reason and now im going to have to go to lost planet hopfully they will have friends in ranked games. More indepth ranking system as well.

**Bonewalker99** · 01-09-2007, 10:20 PM

On the other team, you have screechy the twelve year-old, Silent Bob who isnt using a mic, and Captain never-finishes-a-game

LoL, that is hilarious. That is exactly how it goes...but here's the thing...I still win with that group. Go figure. :P

**ZER0 C001** · 01-09-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheGuyWhoGetsShot

On the other team, you have screechy the twelve year-old, Silent Bob who isnt using a mic, and Captain never-finishes-a-game.

Think about that for a little. How fair is it?

I just wanted to point out that now because of your thought process you'll probably being seeing a lot more of theses types. I know I have.

Now then I've just tried playing maybe bout 10 matches each with them quitting way to early especially when I'm on the winning side. The problem with this is that now I have no idea who the host is, I can't leave feedback to avoid that player so I might have to actually deal with them again and others will have the same problem. If your going to take away host name you'd better raise up the point deduction because 50pts just isn't enough for the time lost in the match and having to find another one. Thanks a lot for making that obsolete for me since it was one of the only things that I felt I could help warn others about.

**Number 2** · 01-09-2007, 10:45 PM

Just wait until you end up in a French room and can't understand any of your teamates! How ever will we communicate with strangers and work as a team? Or how about the host quits because he is loosing and you and all the other players just got booted out of a game. Now we can never utilize the feedback portion of the game for that sense either.....

**Cool N Ski** · 01-09-2007, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bonewalker99

On the other team, you have screechy the twelve year-old, Silent Bob who isnt using a mic, and Captain never-finishes-a-game

LoL, that is hilarious. That is exactly how it goes...but here's the thing...I still win with that group. Go figure. :P

That's funny, but... imagine playing with those guys against a team of friends who play together every day! Sound fun? Think it would be competitive?

Of course not, but that's what ranked had pretty much become. Therefore, the patch was necessary.

**bigheadnick** · 01-09-2007, 11:18 PM

If they would just add clan support nobody would be complaining and the longevity of this game would increase dramatically.As for some of the bugs they fixed.,fantastic.The new maps 2morrow.,great.All of it is for nothing if clan support doesnt come.

**Zoso Fan** · 01-09-2007, 11:27 PM

THATS JUST GAMES AND GENERAL YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT!

That is with EVERY online game, and is to be expected. OMG have you played any other online shooter?

**pyro786** · 01-09-2007, 11:51 PM

Yay, Zoso still posts!
I haven't played with the patch yet, but I'm happy that it eliminates stack. I used to stack, but I'm kind of glad that I'm not allowed to anymore, honestly, because I HATED get stacked against much more than I liked doing it.

**TWISTED BULLET** · 01-10-2007, 12:12 AM

As soon as halo 3 comes out, this game is done, no party system, its just done.

**Popesta** · 01-10-2007, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by SuspectMisconduct

i just played for 2 hours strait and had a blast. everyone should quit crying.

stacking did exist, now that it can't be done so easily, the wankers are crying because now they know what the other team was going through. it was cheating, plain and simple, and now that they can't cheat, the game is broken.
go play halo2, and go back to cheating because it's easy over there. wankers

cheating? please define what you mean by cheating because last time i checked cheating in a video game meant manipulating the environment in ways the programmers did not originally want you to. So in other words your saying playing games with your friends is cheating?...So I guess that means playing football on a team w/ friends is cheating...I bet that even means playing a baseball game w/ friends is considered cheating....OMG THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!.......you can't be serious man, about 60% of the people that joined the same rooms with others just simply want to play with friends that they know rather than gaining the upper hand and this was what made this game great, it's what made halo 2 great ( even though i did not play that game much). Games are made for entertainment, that is the game developers top priority...to make the games fun. So naturally playing online would make games fun because you are playing with random people and most importantly people you know. Yeah playing with some random may be fun at times but as we all know it the world is not perfect and there are many people out there that others simply do not want to play with (immature people, racist, REAL cheaters, and the list goes on) and how do people avoid this simple annoyance? They simply play with people they know

I have no idea why MS/Epic decided to do this and there are those that agree with their decision. Not to seem like an ass but the group of people that agree are probably 15% of the entire community that play this game...majority rules, which is why democracy is the s***. And also most people that agree with this tend to be anti social and complain about this because they themselves cannot find friends to play with often. No offense of course.

My friend got hooked on this game because of GoW alone and is now saving up to buy a 360 JUST FOR THIS GAME. And now that i cannot play with him (unless in player matches.........which is F***ing pointless) and a few other personal friends odds are he won't be getting it as fast he originally planned....maybe not at all. But seriously I was planning on playing this game even through the whole Halo 3 craze ( not a fan of online respawn games) but now im questioning whether to even play for the next month....

On many channels and reports i read that GoW topped the charts as the most active online game, most sold games, and the list goes on...but as you can see from people's posts this will definitely change the amount of people online will definitely shorten( that is a guarantee until a patch). GoW will probably top the charts as most used games available inside EB Games and on Ebay. And if reviewers could rate this game again they surely will probably drop the score a point or two simply because of the lack of community options.

Except what they did instead was give everyone a taste as to how great this game could be.......only to show that this world is far from perfect and completely screw this game up just to remind us of that fact.

**Mike.Dude** · 01-10-2007, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Wakkatana

1:50% of the player's are little kids who complain when you pick up "their" weapon because they are the only one good with it and you suck with it.
2:strategy has gone out the window, people usually say "what are we gonna do?" and then someone say's some plan, but everyone goes thier own way. NO teamwork.

Then statistically, the other team will have just as many bad players.

**Zoso Fan** · 01-10-2007, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by TWISTED BULLET

As soon as halo 3 comes out, this game is done, no party system, its just done.

The only game that uses matchmaking that is REALLY SUCCESSFUL is Halo 2.

GEARS OF WAR is the most played online game at this time and uses the standard xbox live online ranking system.

STOP TROLLING ABOUT OTHER GAMES. If you want to talk about Halo, go to a halo forum. Being a fan of Unreal Tournament, Halo seems like chump change to me. So is matchmaking worth the cost of crap gameplay?

**ZER0 C001** · 01-10-2007, 12:28 AM

I concur Popesta

**The Junkie** · 01-10-2007, 12:31 AM

the only team stacking us battlefield guys know from playing clan matches, (something that is a must for gears) is when its 6 on 6 and then the next thing you know its now 6 on 12,thats stacking. the stacking talked about on gears is something someone who disagreed with the whole friends playing together on the same team because of some reason or another is refering to the occasions where the teams are totally unbalanced which isnt fun for the random team. the simple fix would be to add clan and group game searches as well as a random ranked . the random ranked would work like it does now while the clan and group search would pair friends and so called stacked teams together. the stack teams would have their clan matches to see whos the best, the groups could play with their friends. until everyone here has the type of match making available to them that they would like to play, there is going to be this great arguement about which way was entended to be played. i personally believe that it was by all means meant to be a team game. we got a patch today that fixed some of our complaints and made some of us other gamers crushed at hopes of playing real matches that count with real compitetion. i am one of thoose people that played in thoose stacked teams, but i am also one of thoose people that played individually as well. as an individual, i had good teams and bad. i have been a player on a team of the worst players and i have been on teams with good players. i have ran across so called stacked teams that totally dominated. i undersatand how that can leave a bitter taste in your mouth. when playing with my friends we ran across groups of people on the oppossing team that ranged from randoms to stackers, i guess some here would say. personally the challenge of the other so called stacked teams were some of the most intense gears games i ever had. we all need a place to play on a fair ranked field, ranging from the individual, to the friends ,and the best of the best, clan type teams. i think in the long run everyone will be please at what epic has instore for us. all we can do is sit tight and keep our fingers crossed and hope something will come soon. until then i would be nice to see this forum calm down and act civilized instead of going at each others throats.

**bitonti** · 01-10-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by TheGuyWhoGetsShot

You are very wrong about team-stacking. It pretty much is cheating, because the stackers have played the game and practiced with each other, bringing a good team enviroment and know how to implement strategy. On the other team, you have screechy the twelve year-old, Silent Bob who isnt using a mic, and Captain never-finishes-a-game.

Think about that for a little. How fair is it?

yeah NOW we all get to play with screechy, silent bob and captain sucko - i guess that's fair... no one has a good team. nice work epic

**Cyborgmatt** · 01-10-2007, 02:33 PM

Wakkatana & Popesta got it in one, I totally agree.

**Elusive502** · 01-10-2007, 02:36 PM

I think the update was both good and bad. I like the grenade tag fix but they should have also fixed the use of the chainsaw. Its just to easy to suck you in. Now the fix of team stacking is just stupid. Xbox live is to play with friends and thats your choice if you want to play ranked or not. It just takes the fun out of the game. Team stacking is not cheating its a plan for those who care to win and play with people who wont quit. With your friends you know what each others plan is. As far as having a life as some would say well I have a great life and if ranked is what i want with friends,thats what I should get because Im a paying customer. I agree in some cases but to make all lives better they just need to come up with team match making where you can invite your friends and like a solo team join. Ill play it for a bit longer but thats it unless they fix this. I dont play call of duty 3 for this reason. Im a big spender on games so I hope it gets fixed.

**PartySystemFTW** · 01-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by SuspectMisconduct

i just played for 2 hours strait and had a blast. everyone should quit crying.

stacking did exist, now that it can't be done so easily, the wankers are crying because now they know what the other team was going through. it was cheating, plain and simple, and now that they can't cheat, the game is broken.
go play halo2, and go back to cheating because it's easy over there. wankers

Exactly! Playing with friends = cheating. Playing without friends = fun. That is visionary, next-gen foresight. Brilliant!

**Voradors** · 01-10-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Wakkatana

...to test it out. heres what i learned. remember these are all ranked experiences ^_^

1:50% of the player's are little kids who complain when you pick up "their" weapon because they are the only one good with it and you suck with it.
2:strategy has gone out the window, people usually say "what are we gonna do?" and then someone say's some plan, but everyone goes thier own way. NO teamwork.
3:"team stacking" never existed before gears, lots of people complain about playing with freinds for some reason. just because you play with a team does not mean that you are cheating, it means you actually have strategy and teamwork, the other team may complain about it, but come on, seriously. blame yourself not the other team.
4

laying with people you wanted to play with in ranked matches has been around for ages, and it still is. Unreal2k4, quake4, battlefeild 1942/2142, halo 2, splinter cell, ghost recon, rainbow six.....the list goes on. TEAM STACKING DOES NOT EXIST!
5:the nade tag fix was minor but good ^_^ it's still easy but the chainsaw outranges it now
6:most players seem to just rush to the obvious spots and die.
7:9 out of the 10 games i played, i had the highest score, just because my team was terrible i get a loss. logical indeed.

my friends stopped playing player matches once everyone started to quit when they were lossing. so we moved to ranked, but as of now, that is impossible. i am going to continue playing gears for a little while longer, but unless they make it so we can play with our friends in games were people don't quit after 5 minutes, i cannot say how long this game will hold my interest and the interest of my friends.

end rant. and if anyone disagree's i apoligize but this is my opinion. but i am more than happy to here all of yours ^_^.

i completely agree

**Voradors** · 01-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Afroman12

For some reason I think people who like having their friends (most likely 60% of this forum of people) are going to leave this game when Halo 3 comes out for that multi player since it is team supported (as in able to invite friends).

sad but true.....i plan on doing it. i have even been breakin out Chrome Hounds because its the only 360 game i have that allows friends to play together in ranked (great game btw)

**Elusive502** · 01-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Why do you think having your friends play and have a plan is cheating? Its called practice and if youre not that good then of course you would agree with the patch so you dont always get beat down. I also guess you like the lag and error signal every 5 seconds too.

**Head Noize** · 01-10-2007, 03:10 PM

hmm.. team play seems to work fine for me.

I played with all 5 of my friends from work last night, and had a blast!

Who cares if we didn't get any 'ranked' points.

do you share these 'ranked' points with your friends? No you cannot.

So why do you some of you feel the game is 'broken' somehow, when the ability to play with your friends exists?

It seems to me that you're not thankful for this wonderful game, and are upset that you no longer have a soapbox to flail your e-peen on.

Have a good day, and enjoy the buggy lost planet demo.

**duranduran1984** · 01-10-2007, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Zoso Fan

The only game that uses matchmaking that is REALLY SUCCESSFUL is Halo 2.

GEARS OF WAR is the most played online game at this time and uses the standard xbox live online ranking system.

STOP TROLLING ABOUT OTHER GAMES. If you want to talk about Halo, go to a halo forum. Being a fan of Unreal Tournament, Halo seems like chump change to me. So is matchmaking worth the cost of crap gameplay?

Yeah, great point, considering Halo 2 is the most successfull/highest selling xbox/360 game ever. Why take pointers from it? Sure....

**Elusive502** · 01-10-2007, 03:20 PM

Well heres a fix, Update it with a deathmatch and a team deathmatch. Ive played it for a couple of hours post update and since the patch its everyman for its self anyways so why not just have a deathmatch and team deathmatch and be able to invite whoever

**rageTW** · 01-10-2007, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Wakkatana

my friends stopped playing player matches once everyone started to quit when they were lossing. so we moved to ranked, but as of now, that is impossible.

Why don't more people catch on to this?!? Player matches suck because noone stays whole game or just messes around!

**OldBones** · 01-10-2007, 03:54 PM

I don't follow how, in points 1 and 2, you complain about how much it sucks to be on a random team, but then, in point three, you say people shouldn't complain and should blame themselves. Contradicting, y'know?

Also, just because playing with a group of familiar teammates/friends/etc is allowed in games does not mean that team stacking doesn't exist. The logic just doesn't follow there.

Personally, I have no problem with friends playing together. But a group of friends versus a group of randoms is an unquestionable advantage. Kind of like sticking a dot on the middle of your screen. Is it fair to call it cheating? That's opinion. But it sure is a substantial advantage, no question. That's why I'd rather it be in player matches until such a time as a proper team lobby system is setup.

**Wakkatana** · 01-10-2007, 03:57 PM

Wow, i am actually suprised so many people agree with me on this ^_^

also, in Execution, 3 downs=/=warzone...kinda eliminates the point of execution, i it should be either a 3 countdown timer, where if you get downed you die after 4 downs if they are 10 seconds within eachother. or just make it so the last survivor can only withstand 4-5 downs before dying, because if its the last one and he is outnumbered with people surounding him, i do not think it is a winning battle.

**fartssmellgood** · 01-10-2007, 04:04 PM

See ya later!

We won't be missing you at all!

Bye bye you little whiner

**Knight Marquise** · 01-10-2007, 04:39 PM