Coalition of Ordered Governments and Flashbacks about Marcus Phoenix's past

[armagon917]

gears of war.com had some vids Im sure most of you saw them where the destruction of Sera was ordered by the Coalition of Ordered Governments. In one vid there is a man, I assume a president type figure informing all surviving citizens to evacuate to some city that was built over granite. The theory is the Locust Horde couldnt burrow up and attack there. The Coalition of Ordered Governments proceeds to destroy all overrun cities to try and wipe out the Locusts. This story sets up the game, location and atmosphere really well. I think it would be cool to have maybe some flashbacks about Marcus Phoenix, why he's in jail in the beginning of the game, where he was in the past when the Coalition of Ordered Governments decided to destroy all the occupied cities with the cool laser beam thingy. (enter cool mass destruction weapon name) The show Lost does this with its characters. Maybe during a rest with your squad you go into a type of playable flashback when all those events took place. Show some cogs with Marcus trying to evacuate civilians with Locusts overrunning the area and show the weapon that destroys the cities going off way in the distance. Followed by a shockwave of smoke, dust and debris that rumbles towards you and blacks out the screen. Kinda like the end of FEAR. Then end flashback, back to present. I find the pre-story really interesting and would love to see something like that. I think they did some flashback stuff in Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood which worked well. What do you guys think?

[JohnWayne360]

I'm sure we will, I heard Cliffy said there would be a flashback of Marcus at his military academy.

[BerserkerCommander]

Yeah flashbacks of the past before diving us into the game where Marcus is in jail would be a VERY good idea, if they didn't there will be some pretty confused gamers.

[uR wOrSt nIgHtMaRe]

the laser beam thingy is called Hammer Of Dawn and is Fenix not Phoenix

[imusthaveGoW]

theres flashbacks of him when hes a child

[armagon917]

uR wOrSt nIgHtMaRe, oops Fenix it is, my bad. Epic forgive me!!!! haha Thanks for clearing up my mistakes for me.

[VeniVediVeci]

I think if they just started us off at the jail in beginning it would be fine... as long as they give us flashbacks throughout the game

[Ninja Yoda]

I thinkl flash backs will be good as long as it incorporated into the story at the right time. I for one agree with it because it stretches the story plus gives us more setails about the character that we are playing.

[armagon917]

Ninja Yoada, Indeed! I think with any good story telling you have to give a dam about the main character. Why do a lot of movies and TV shows fail? Because you really dont care about the characters. I would like a more human Marcus Fenix then the unfeeling badass DOOM guy. Im not saying make him a pansy, of course not. But if Epic adds some flashbacks that develope his character into a tragic sympathetic hero caught in a war he doesnt want to fight (which that part they are doing) it would work really well. Maybe he has a girlfriend who was killed during a Hammer Of Dawn liquidation of some city she was in. He would then be enraged at the Coalition of Ordered Governments for pulling the trigger and the Locusts. Hey it worked for Braveheart. Something that shows that Marcus had lost something dear to him would IMO work, and then put you in the role of a guy looking for vengence which would be way more powerful then just being plopped into the game...now go kill. But its all about execution if its done well it could work. In Max Payne I laughed when Max lost his wife. We dont want any of that in Gears. This is just an example anyways.

[BerserkerCommander]

wow you said it armagon!

[VeniVediVeci]

Amen to that Armagon

[Ninja Yoda]

Ninja Yoada, Indeed! I think with any good story telling you have to give a dam about the main character. Why do a lot of movies and TV shows fail? Because you really dont care about the characters. I would like a more human Marcus Fenix then the unfeeling badass DOOM guy. Im not saying make him a pansy, of course not. But if Epic adds some flashbacks that develope his character into a tragic sympathetic hero caught in a war he doesnt want to fight (which that part they are doing) it would work really well. Maybe he has a girlfriend who was killed during a Hammer Of Dawn liquidation of some city she was in. He would then be enraged at the Coalition of Ordered Governments for pulling the trigger and the Locusts. Hey it worked for Braveheart. Something that shows that Marcus had lost something dear to him would IMO work, and then put you in the role of a guy looking for vengence which would be way more powerful then just being plopped into the game...now go kill. But its all about execution if its done well it could work. In Max Payne I laughed when Max lost his wife. We dont want any of that in Gears. This is just an example anyways.

Have I said somthing wrong, did'nt I say I agree with flashbacks, yes I did as long as they put in correctly, I always liked the idea of a backstory as it fleshes out the characters plus you begin the care more about the character your playing as suddenly he has a personality, so if I explained what I was saying was wrong then sorry.
Oh and one more thing it's Yoda not Yoada....lol

[armagon917]

oops no apology needed Ninja Yoda. When I said "Indeed" I was agreeing with you. Then I just went on to say what I think a good character development could be, thats all. sorry for the confusion. I suck at typing haha Yoda it is. dam Im getting all these characters names wrong. haha

[Ninja Yoda]

oops no apology needed Ninja Yoda. When I said "Indeed" I was agreeing with you. Then I just went on to say what I think a good character development could be, thats all. sorry for the confusion. I suck at typing haha Yoda it is. dam Im getting all these characters names wrong. haha

Cool man no prob, looking forward to killing along side or against you online.

[armagon917]

Yeah Ninja Yoda Id enjoy curb smashing your skull hehe. My user name will be Armagon, so keep an eye out for me. If we play co-op I gotta be Fenix tho =D
haha Happy gaming to you, this game is getting me really excited.

[Ninja Yoda]

Yeah Ninja Yoda Id enjoy curb smashing your skull hehe. My user name will be Armagon, so keep an eye out for me. If we play co-op I gotta be Fenix tho =D
haha Happy gaming to you, this game is getting me really excited.

But my friend how can you curb stomp me when I would have just sawed you in half, or I could put you the DBNO positon then take out my pistol and just shoot you in the face HA HA!. But seriously play along side you anytime man just give us a holla.

[Critical Timing]

But my friend how can you curb stomp me when I would have just sawed you in half, or I could put you the DBNO positon then take out my pistol and just shoot you in the face HA HA!. But seriously play along side you anytime man just give us a holla.

So many posabilitys, I was thinking of Sticking smoke nades to DBNO'ers, Then once there there team mate tires to revive them, tell every on on side to nade the smoke, and BOOM!

[SuspectMisconduct]

don't flame me here, but what about the novels that (hopefully) follow. i loved halo, but didn't have a clue who master chief was. after i read the novels, i enjoyed the game that much more. using the DOOM example, you're just "space marine #XXX", no feeling of a connection. backstories give you a sense of empathy, and allow you to immerse your self in the game (why the hate between carachter 'A' and charachter "B"... ohhh, he left him for 'dead' in some past skirmish... now i hate him too...selfish bastard!) i trust Epic to do this right, oh, and by the way....NOVEMBER IS HERE, *****ES, I'VE ONLY BEEN WAITING 3 YEARS FOR THIS!!!

[Ninja Yoda]

So many posabilitys, I was thinking of Sticking smoke nades to DBNO'ers, Then once there there team mate tires to revive them, tell every on on side to nade the smoke, and BOOM!

Well won't be long untill we find out buddy, you stick em with the smoke and I will frag the *****es.

[Timbaland 007]

gears of war.com had some vids Im sure most of you saw them where the destruction of Sera was ordered by the Coalition of Ordered Governments. In one vid there is a man, I assume a president type figure informing all surviving citizens to evacuate to some city that was built over granite. The theory is the Locust Horde couldnt burrow up and attack there. The Coalition of Ordered Governments proceeds to destroy all overrun cities to try and wipe out the Locusts. This story sets up the game, location and atmosphere really well. I think it would be cool to have maybe some flashbacks about Marcus Phoenix, why he's in jail in the beginning of the game, where he was in the past when the Coalition of Ordered Governments decided to destroy all the occupied cities with the cool laser beam thingy. (enter cool mass destruction weapon name) The show Lost does this with its characters. Maybe during a rest with your squad you go into a type of playable flashback when all those events took place. Show some cogs with Marcus trying to evacuate civilians with Locusts overrunning the area and show the weapon that destroys the cities going off way in the distance. Followed by a shockwave of smoke, dust and debris that rumbles towards you and blacks out the screen. Kinda like the end of FEAR. Then end flashback, back to present. I find the pre-story really interesting and would love to see something like that. I think they did some flashback stuff in Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood which worked well. What do you guys think?

Lucky for you armagon, the game does offer insight on Marcus's past. He supposedly gets thrown in jail for abandoning his post to save his father from the advancing Locust on Emergence day. Even though his actions were noble, he was too late. The COG viewed his actions as treason and had him locked away. Remember when Marcus told Hoffman"I'm not doin this for you"? He was talkin bout dear old dad.

See you online yo. Maybe we can form a clan or somethin.