Need Help

[legacy-evilklown]

When i start a server people can not join it just stays at the black ip screen. it lets me join through lan. and yes all ports are open and there is no firewall enabled.

[legacy-i_doit3d]

If they see a black screen, they are blocked by a firewall. FYI, some DSL modems have them built in.

That is the most common cause, but not the only one.

[legacy-evilklown]

I have turned off all my firewalls and stuff and open ports i dunno what could cause it

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by evilklown
I have turned off all my firewalls and stuff and open ports i dunno what could cause it

If you want helpful answers you need to provide more info about what your setup looks like. I would also recommend that you spend some time with the search function or browse the topics of this forum, problems like these have been discussed several times.

[legacy-evilklown]

I got cable a router (dlink i-604) Someone conneceted to it a day or two ago and then it stoped working YET AGAIN.

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by evilklown
I got cable a router (dlink i-604) Someone conneceted to it a day or two ago and then it stoped working YET AGAIN.

I believe most D-Links are afflicted with the "NAT bug". Search this term in this forum for more info.

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

Originally posted by evilklown
I got cable a router (dlink i-604) Someone conneceted to it a day or two ago and then it stoped working YET AGAIN.

Enable DMZ(in router settings) to the IP of the hosted ut2k4 server.
What it does is sending all incoming traffic to that IP, which is like opening all ports, so no room for misconfigurating left

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
Enable DMZ(in router settings) to the IP of the hosted ut2k4 server.
What it does is sending all incoming traffic to that IP, which is like opening all ports, so no room for misconfigurating left

This does not help against the NAT bug and is at best bad advice.

[legacy-shov3l]

dont enable dmz your server will be comprimised very quickly
all the info you need is in this forum do a search for nat or nat bug via the search function at the top right

also if you provide a little more info as to what ports you have forwarded in your router and the protocol udp/tcp we can help u much easier

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

Originally posted by NakedApe
This does not help against the NAT bug and is at best bad advice.

But it will fix the server issue. I thought this was the prob here, not the NAT bug.

shov3l
For security issues try www.zonealarm.com or just install WinXP Service Pack 2

evilklown
Yes, make sure firewall is enabled with DMZ and let ppl type your IP manually. As long as its not a public server, unfortunately you didnt said which one it is, it will be ok.

[legacy-shov3l]

lol zonealarm thats a good way to lag a server but whatever i use ipcop and sp2 sucks and will slow windows down bad but whatever it looks like mrs doubtfull is the new nat expert here so i will take my 6+ years of running ut 99 ut2003 ut2004 servers and sftu :bulb: :noob:

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

shov3l
Not that i noticed, but it sure puts a little strain on CPU, like any other application.

( ut99 was released in less than 6 years )

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
But it will fix the server issue. I thought this was the prob here, not the NAT bug.

You need to educate yourself a bit about the NAT bug as this bug is what is causing server issues like this (not the exclusive cause thereof though).

And in any case, DMZ does nothing that port forwarding can't do except indiscrimiately open ports excessively exposing your host and making port forwarding to other hosts impossible.

In short, it's bad advice.

[legacy-i_doit3d]

Have you tried to bypass the router to see if you still have the problem? That will help you to narrow down where the issue really is.

[NakedApe]

And to further pinpoint if the NAT bug is responsible for this, do the following:

Have a buddy look up your server in the masterlist (requires advertising but I assume you already do). Have them add the server to favourites and then choose "Edit Address" and compare the port number to what you're really using. If they match, NAT is not the problem.

A way around this is to have them add the correct address and port to favourites manually. That will not work to well if you're on dynamic IP and change it regularly.

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

NakedApe
Your in the wrong forum buddy. I provided a 100% working solution, which, in case its a private server and probably with dynamic IP, is fully sufficient. Knowledge about your blubber is not required. You criticized the threadstarter for not giving enough information, criticized me for helping him to solve the problem but did nothing more, than point him to the search button. To sum it up, all you did is nothing constructive, but just flames. You're the worst kind

In any case NAT is not responsible for this most probably firmware bug or whatever(noone cares anyway), because there is nothing to look up on a DMZ PC, since it has nothing to do with NAT. Shows how much you know.

And may i remind you:

1. Answering someone's question by telling them to use the search function isn't very nice, and if the person isn't familiar with the forum software, not very useful. If you know the answer, share it! Otherwise don't post.

Dont force me press the "report" button and report your post, because you are violating forum rules. If you have nothing to say, just stay out. kthx.

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
I provided a 100% working solution

No, you did not. It does not work if he is affected by the NAT bug. If you don't understand why this is, please refrain from trying to debate the point.

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
You criticized the threadstarter for not giving enough information, criticized me for helping him to solve the problem but did nothing more, than point him to the search button. To sum it up, all you did is nothing constructive, but just flames. You're the worst kind

You sure have an strange definition of "criticize"... I told the OP to post more details if he wanted people to be able to help and I told OP not to take bad advise when it was presented.

Putting a smiley after a baseless accusation does not excuse it.

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
In any case NAT is not responsible for this most probably firmware bug or whatever(noone cares anyway), because there is nothing to look up on a DMZ PC, since it has nothing to do with NAT. Shows how much you know.

Ok, it's obvious that you don't understand the problem involved in what is known as the NAT bug. Just stop trying to sound like you do.

I would wager that the OP cares.

Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtful
And may i remind you:

Dont force me press the "report" button and report your post, because you are violating forum rules. If you have nothing to say, just stay out. kthx.

Please, feel free to report me. I'd be interested in which of us they think are breaking forum rules.

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

NakedApe
Look. If you know a better solution, just post it. If not, stay out. Hard to understand?

FYI my private server worked fine, with same symptoms like "N/A" pings and black screen if connected through the In-game browser.

[Frogger]

no i'm smarter!1111

[legacy-Penguin]

Please stop with the flaming. Both of you post your thoughts without the insults please.

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

Penguin
Yes sir, all im interested in, is to help evilklown (and seek for better solutions for myself of course ) and not flame with NakedApe which he started. Sometimes its just hard to resist vs ppl who think their register date makes them .. not to sound insulting.. well, what Frogger said :noob:

[NakedApe]

Originally posted by Penguin
Please stop with the flaming. Both of you post your thoughts without the insults please.

I really fail to see where I've insulted anyone.

I've informed a poster about what he needs to do to find a solution to his problem and adviced him to not apply bad advice. Does this constitute as flaming these days?

Pointing out to someone that they are wrong or do not understand a concept is flaming?

If that is the case then this forum is no longer worth my time.

[legacy-shov3l]

someone reminds me of horndog, hummm could it be?? no its doubtful
:bulb:

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

Originally posted by shov3l
someone reminds me of horndog, hummm could it be?? no its doubtful
:bulb:

it is doubtful. However, during your adminning of ut99 before it was actually released, you could have various memories noone can imagine idd.

NakedApe
Now you are threating(?!?) the mods to either "speak you free", or you will stop posting :bored: Not very nice again. Just hold back judging everything with your subjective and unfounded opinions and everything will be OK.

Edit: ok if you want it that bad, technically there is no DMZ in the router, and everything is translated and some firmwares just dont get it right and one can call it a NAT-bug as well, cos it sounds cool, so you are correct. But in this thread this is offtopic.

[legacy-shov3l]

so i was off a year why are you so abrasive? that doesnt matter really because this forum doesnt need us anymore its all yours you b1tch just another nail in ut2004's coffin people like you that demand respect but give none really fvck this forum up enjoy your mess ***** im out

btw im smarter

[legacy-Mrs. Doubtful]

oh dear, some people. Im sorry that i heart your feelings after you told me to f*ck off.

(Lets agree that Frogger is teh smartest)

[NakedApe]

The plain facts of the NAT bug and it's relevance to this kind of problems are well documented and recorded here on the forum. We don't need to feed this troll. I just hope that this discussion is not going to set the tone for the future of this forum.

evilklown, if you still need help, pm me.