DM-Q1DM1_Beta2 [download] [pictures]

[legacy-Nawrot]

Name:
DM-Q1DM1 Skaarj Outpost

Version:
1.0

Compatibility:
UT2004

Description:
Remake of Q1DM1 map. Alien mothership style. Best load 2-4 players.

Comments:
Map is optimized. Skybox and outside area almost finished. Secret door and bridge are back. Bridge needs bot support and im stuck on it. Map is little brighter. I added ambient sounds and coronas. Some changes to pickups and weapons.

Screenshot:
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM101.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM102.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM103.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM104.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM105.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM106.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM107.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM108.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM109.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM110.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM111.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM112.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM113.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM114.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM115.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM116.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM117.jpg
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/Q1DM1/Q1DM118.jpg

Credits:
NIN for great music.

Homepage:
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Download:
www.ls-fenris.com/UT2004/DM-Q1DM1_Beta2.zip

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Comments BETA 1:
Map is not optimized yet. Area outside of outpost is placeholder. Skybox stolen from stock ONS map. I fix that for final release.
I tried to keep orginal Q1DM1 level proportions. BSP is exported from Quake and then scaled up. There are some minor changes like no secret door or bridgge and pickupis in differenet locations.
All windows for now are just blocking volume, I will do them as static meshes.
I'm worried about all taht Red, Blue and Green colors in map, is this annoyning, should I make map colors more toned down? Another problem is weapons placement (only 4 is engouth?) and shiled , health pickups. Any suggestions in those areas are really welcome and needed.

Screenshot BETA 1:
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM101.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM102.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM103.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM104.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM105.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM106.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM107.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM108.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM109.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM110.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM111.jpg
www.simnet.is/nawrot/q1dm1/Q1DM112.jpg

[legacy-Juggalo_Kyle]

ok i played the map. looks very nice. but only 1 thing that bugged the **** out of me. how dark it was. it was really hard to see anything, well except the bots. but it kinda looks like something in doom 3 (which ruled). i look forward to seeing beta 2 of this map
good job :up:

[legacy-Hedge_o_Matic]

All I can say is that I'm so glad the Unreal series has real map names Q3TDM38 and the like are a real pain in the ass.

[legacy-Mr_Caravaggio]

I like the look of this level, the darkness didn't even bother me that much. But 1 thing.
1. In screenshot 1 there's a hole in the floor, I understand it's there to make the shield power up perilous to get, but the wall underneath it makes it look like there should be a lift there and I jumped right into it the first time...
2. There's also an object that looks kind of like a teleporter, reminds me of one from q3, but it didn't do anything so I ended up wasting a few seconds jumping in it.

[legacy-*gR*]

nice, i didnt play q1 but i really like the lighting of this map
:up: :up:

[legacy-Yakomo]

Pickups and lightning need some serious work. I wouldn't worry about the Red, Green, Blue lights that you mentioned as they fit your map's atmosphere quite well. But overall it is much to dark.

The hole beneath the hole from the second to the first floor is a bit confusing, cause it looks exactly like the upper one but you can't jump through.

For the pickups, I recommend more and better placement. F.ex. exchange the standard Health with a MegaHealth like it was in Q1 and put in the secret door again so ppl don't spot it when they run by there. Maybe exchange the RL (where the grenade launcher was in Q1) with the Flak or Blob.

Bring back the bridge as it adds some tactical aspects. Just shorten the platform in front of the Shield so its not possible to just jump over there and the bridge will be needed.

It should be more visible that you'll die if you don't make the jump (where the lava was in Q1).

Bring back the door that needed to be opened with a button to get to the teleporter.

All those details were in that map for a good reason and if you want to bring back some of the Q1 fun and flow they should be there also.

[legacy-SCAFE]

change the button from please delete me so it doesnt

[legacy-Nawrot]

Thank you all for feedback. I wont make map much brighter, I like dark maps. Now I'm working on that secret door and bridge. I have trouble with teaching bots how to open door or use bridge. Map will be ready for beta 2, once I solve those problems. Items placement need to be balanced. This is small level and super health + shield and super shield is too much. Maybe it's possible to code health and shileds valuses to be lower like they were in Quake.

Thanks for pointing out wrong icon

[legacy-Nawrot]

Map is updated and ready for beta 2. Map will be released when I solve bot support for bridge, so for now bots don't use bridge and sheild.

[legacy-DrPest]

Hey, great work

Could you please remake q1dm6, too ?

Its the best dm map ever

would be cool,

cu Dr Pest

[legacy-GIdenJoe]

Originally posted by Hedge_o_Matic
All I can say is that I'm so glad the Unreal series has real map names Q3TDM38 and the like are a real pain in the ass.

Quake has real mapnames but they're just in the title, not in the filename

[SkaarjMaster]

alien mothership style with completely different look as futuristic space station on Mars?; bots are good and like the squeaking announcing arrival in that one spot; not as dark as others suggest (or at least it didn't bother me in this one) and the fake lift got me too; 2-4 suggested player load (not sure why the 4 different versions of this map for UT2004 all have different player loads).

http://www.mapraider.com/maps/?fileid=2724