ATI Temperatures.. PLEASE HELP ME!!

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

Hi. Does anyone know how to find the temperature of an ATI graphics card? I am getting artifacts with my Radeon 9800 pro (no i DIDN'T overclock it) and i would like to see if it is overheating, or if the card is just dead. I have heard that the ATI drivers are supposed to have a temp reading thing on them already, but i cant seem to find it anywhere. Please help, i would like to be able to play UT2k4 again soon and this is the first step in doing so. If the problem is heat, i plan on getting a new case and mobo (right now i have a really crappy dell case and mobo ) Otherwise, i will just RMA the card... I really need to know if its heat or not. The card worked fine for about 3 months then all of a sudden a started getting really bad artifacts... here are some pics http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/.../artifacts.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...classicwtf.jpg
As you can see, UT is pretty much unplayable.

BTW: Since i have a ****ty dell system, the mobo doesn't have a temp censor thingy, so i cant use a mobo monitor to see the temp of the card.

Here are some pics from inside my case... dunno if this will help or not...
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...f/DSC01183.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...f/DSC01182.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...f/DSC01181.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...f/DSC01180.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...f/DSC01179.jpg

Why puzzles me is, if the problem is heat, why did the card stop workign now, after 3 months? This is the only thing that leads me to think that the prob isn't heat.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

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[legacy-molszewski8]

if possible try leaving a gap between the videocard and the card next to it. move whatever that small card is next to it to a different PCI slot. This may help get the hot air away from the card. also check to make sure the fan is working and DUST FREE. also check the other fans in your system to make sure there is no buildup or anything...thats about all i can think of in regards to heat.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

Originally posted by molszewski8
if possible try leaving a gap between the videocard and the card next to it. move whatever that small card is next to it to a different PCI slot. This may help get the hot air away from the card. also check to make sure the fan is working and DUST FREE. also check the other fans in your system to make sure there is no buildup or anything...thats about all i can think of in regards to heat.

Do you know how to check the temperature of the ATI card?

[legacy-PlayerXXXX]

What ATI drivers are you using? I was having similar problems and updated to the latest drivers (both ATI and MB) and the problems went away. At the same time I added a CPU cooler as well...

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

I currently have the 4.4's... Im confidnet that the problem is not drivers... I really need a way to measure the temperature on the card though, to see if it is overheating or not and to make sure that the memory is not scrwed up or something.

[legacy-Skarjj Master]

Get really friggin big fans for your comp. Do this by cutting holes in your case that match the size of the fan, and stick the fan in. Drill/hammer the fan in. Plug the fan into the wall, and turn the fan on/off manually.

[legacy-sharpie-love]

Is that a dell? The green airflow channel thing looks framiliar. Make sure all your fans are turning the right way, and see if the problem is better when you play with the case off.

[legacy-EX1LE]

you could try a digital thermometer that you point at things to tell temperature or use this its for an ASUS card it might work for you but don't know.

[legacy-KenDawg]

Hey Monkey where did you get the card?

I got mine a couple months ago and it is also starting to do the same thing, but for me it even does this on the desktop. But my artifacts aren't quite that bad...

I figured out it was the ram getting too hot, so I underclocked it and its fine, then I bought some ramsinks (copper ocz). Now I can't RMA the card...and I still can't run at stock ram speeds, so I'm HOPING it isn't the card, but rather software.

P.S. it runs fine at 378/305, try that.

[legacy-audi2honda]

ATI Drivers only support temp monitoring on the 9800XT and up. If you remove the sink and put a probe on the core you void your warrenty so why mess with it..just return it and get a new one.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

Originally posted by KenDawg
Hey Monkey where did you get the card?

I got mine a couple months ago and it is also starting to do the same thing, but for me it even does this on the desktop. But my artifacts aren't quite that bad...

I figured out it was the ram getting too hot, so I underclocked it and its fine, then I bought some ramsinks (copper ocz). Now I can't RMA the card...and I still can't run at stock ram speeds, so I'm HOPING it isn't the card, but rather software.

P.S. it runs fine at 378/305, try that.

Its a sapphire card... I Got it from allstarpowershop... Im pretty sure that it is my case thats making the card overheat. I plan on getting a new case and mobo and moving all the stuff from this comp into it. If the card still doesn't work i guess i will rma it and get a new one... I am relluctant to do this though, since it will cost about $300...

[legacy-audi2honda]

Originally posted by MonkeyIncognito
Its a sapphire card... I Got it from allstarpowershop

Hey Monkey you know what I just thought of. There were some places that were selling bios flashed 9800 NPs as Pros and basically ripping people off.

I wonder if that happened to you
Let me do some searching on that NP flashed a a pro thing..

How long have you had it?

[legacy-IGetKilledALot]

You might also try reseating the card in the slot. I had a similiar problem.

[legacy-DrThodt]

If it's a np look at the memory, Sapphire use samsung 333 memory for the np. so if your videocard's memory says 333 in the memory timings its flashed. Just thought I'd add my 2 cents. If at all possible return it or RMA through Sapphire.

[legacy-audi2honda]

Originally posted by DrThodt
If it's a np look at the memory, Sapphire use samsung 333 memory for the np. so if your videocard's memory says 333 in the memory timings its flashed. Just thought I'd add my 2 cents. If at all possible return it or RMA through Sapphire.

Yea the NPs have Samsung 3.3 or Infenion 3.0. If it is a pro it should say Samsung 2.8. Check that for sure.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

Originally posted by audi2honda
Hey Monkey you know what I just thought of. There were some places that were selling bios flashed 9800 NPs as Pros and basically ripping people off.

I wonder if that happened to you
Let me do some searching on that NP flashed a a pro thing..

How long have you had it?

I have had it for about 3 months

Where would i look on the card to see what kind of memory it has?

BTW: I also get **** like this when im not playing games
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...staff/wtf2.jpg
http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/...partifacts.jpg
Stuff like this keeps popping up... Like right now lol... Im guessing that their artifacts.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

BUMP!!! Well im going to bed... PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE!

[legacy-audi2honda]

Originally posted by MonkeyIncognito
BUMP!!! Well im going to bed... PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE!

Right on the memory chip itself. You might need to pull the card to see it cause it's small. The 8 little rectanglues are your memory chips it should be on there.

[||M@Yh3M||]

well,there goes the thing that the 9800 pro is good

im beginning to doubt the card,there have been many reports on artifacts with this thing...wtf is wrong with it?

also,which drivers are best?im using default now and no probs,so why should i change?

[sure]

Originally posted by [TnT]>>M@Yh3M<<
well,there goes the thing that the 9800 pro is good

im beginning to doubt the card,there have been many reports on artifacts with this thing...wtf is wrong with it?

also,which drivers are best?im using default now and no probs,so why should i change?

I use the CATALYST 4.5 drivers.

And i have zero probs. The card is good.

[||M@Yh3M||]

Originally posted by sure
I use the CATALYST 4.5 drivers.


And i have zero probs. The card is good.

id love to beleive that,but why is it that all the people complaining about artifacts have the 9800 pro?

and whats the difference in the drivers?what does the catalyst do/have that the default sapphire drivers dont?

[sure]

Originally posted by [TnT]>>M@Yh3M<<
...
and whats the difference in the drivers?what does the catalyst do/have that the default sapphire drivers dont?

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst...ase_Notes.html

[legacy-Flynn Flak]

I'm a fan of both nVIDIA and ATI, I have more than a couple of each brand. I've even got a 3dfx Voodoo 3 I bought to play UT with. Basically, my favorite video card is the cheapest card I can afford with the most power, which has only once been a top of the line card. (I got a GF3 days after they came out to play Unreal 2 which I just knew would be out shortly there after, yet in reality didn't come out for another year and by then my card was outdated and much more powerful cards were much cheaper than I paid for the GF3 but I couldn't buy any of them because I had told my wife how the GF3 was so powerful I wouldn't need to upgrade for a long long time.)

That being said, I think ATI has a huge problem with either their design, drivers, or quality. I've had a ton of problems with my 9600 Pro, and like Cheryl Crow, I've got a feeling I'm not the only one. Until recently the card has had me in UT2004 heaven, but soon as I introduced the card to FarCry it's been flaky as hell. FarCry crashed, froze, and rebooted my system continuously. I started searching around and it didn't take me long to find that I was buy one of many people having problems with FarCry on an ATI card. I tried a slue of drivers and bios settings, tweaked the cooling in my system, but in the end I had to just put up with the instability. I made it to the end of the game, but it wasn't easy, and the game didn't make it any easier either with the ignorant save point system and flat out cheating AI.

Now I get lockups/crashes/reboots playing UT2004. The other day I started getting waves of lines on my monitor, like signal interference. I hooked up a couple of other systems to the monitor and the picture was fine. Hooked the 9600 pro system back up, waves. Changing refresh rates and resolutions would make it go away for a couple minutes, but then it would be back. I took the card out, cleaned it, put it back in, no help. Yesterday, the problem magically went away, but for how long?

Your problem could be any number of things. It sure looks like heat, but it could easily be bad video RAM as well. As for RAM going bad after 3 months, it does happen. I've had 2 sticks of RAM go bad after at least 6 months of flawless use. At first the RAM just caused my system to be flaky, but eventually it wouldn't even boot. So if system RAM can go bad, so too can video RAM. It could be power dips or spikes. It could be drivers. It could be a combination of things.

Save yourself a lot of time and trouble, send it back. If the new card acts the same then you can worry about diagnoses, but at this point I'm pretty sure ATI expects to get a good portion of the cards they ship out back.

Again, I'm not an ATI hater, I love my 9600 pro. It's my best card right now and I'm hoping it will continue to be until PCI Express.

[||M@Yh3M||]

Originally posted by sure
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst...ase_Notes.html

im dloading it right now...whats that about it having problems with pop sot and splinter cell?

i have pop sot,ittle still work rite?

am i taking any chances by doing this,is the default driver better in any way?

has catalyst 4.5 got any known problems that arent there in the defaults?

fanx again

[legacy-audi2honda]

Originally posted by [TnT]>>M@Yh3M<<
id love to beleive that,but why is it that all the people complaining about artifacts have the 9800 pro?

and whats the difference in the drivers?what does the catalyst do/have that the default sapphire drivers dont?

bah 1 complaint..you know how many people have this card and have no problems? TONS

[legacy-Urizen]

Originally posted by MonkeyIncognito
I am getting artifacts with my Radeon 9800 pro (sic)

I am sorry I think your card is burned out. I had similar problems w/ arties with my Sapphire R9800 Pro and it turned out it was blasted. I had the VGA for nine months or so. It was quite frustrating as the computer store couldn´t figure the problem out at first. Luckily I got a free upgrade to a XT :up:

[||M@Yh3M||]

Originally posted by [TnT]>>M@Yh3M<<
im dloading it right now...whats that about it having problems with pop sot and splinter cell?

i have pop sot,ittle still work rite?

am i taking any chances by doing this,is the default driver better in any way?

has catalyst 4.5 got any known problems that arent there in the defaults?

fanx again

bump my question

[||M@Yh3M||]

i just installed the drivers...

1st of all,why is it configured at AGP 1X?and it refuses to change to 4X...

also,how do i check the temperature and everything?

[legacy-Noz]

As said before, leave one slot open between the agp slot and the next pci card. Then remove the pci bracket next to the agp slot for some more airflow.

Speaking of airflow, do you have any casefans in your system?

[legacy-GuiZmO]

Well i have a 9800pro drivers are cata4.5 (in a dell case) running with a p4 3ghz
and i never had any artefact with UT,far cry or any other recent released game.

Maybe the room where your pc is located is too hot so the fans cant do their job well?

[||M@Yh3M||]

how do i check the temperature of my pc please?

[legacy-Sheepdemon]

Stick a thermometer up its a$$? Those artifacts (the second lot) are what i get if I overclock my GF-FX 5600 up too high, as the card overheats, so I think it probably is a heat issue. No offence but ure case is a bit of a mess, u need to invest in some slim IDE cables and get some air flowing across the case, from front to back to reduce the temp.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

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[legacy-.dot.Chops]

Question: why would you get a new case and mobo for $300 when a 9800 pro can be had for only $200?

Anyways, your card is dead. Replace it.

[legacy-MonkeyIncognito]

Originally posted by .dot.Chops
Question: why would you get a new case and mobo for $300 when a 9800 pro can be had for only $200?

Anyways, your card is dead. Replace it.

So my card would work and not overheat maybe??

[legacy-audi2honda]

you still haven't checked your RAM..

And I'm not buying all this overheating stuff. Dell puts these cards in their systems and they don't have any crazy fan setup. Only an exhaust on the dimension desktops.

[legacy-aceôfbase]

Originally posted by [TnT]>>M@Yh3M<<
well,there goes the thing that the 9800 pro is good

im beginning to doubt the card,there have been many reports on artifacts with this thing...wtf is wrong with it?

also,which drivers are best?im using default now and no probs,so why should i change?

are you freaken insane 64 foot monitor lol i dont think u can afford that. i think you mean 64 inches, but i dont think u can afford that either. maybe you should think about sayin something thats actually real about a dell pc lol. by the way i had same problems with my 5900 and all i did was i just underclocked the memory clock frequency by like 10 and that made all those weird textures disapear. hope that helps you it helped me.

[legacy-CPG-US^Prophet]

Environment plays a role also... is your computer area hot? Also, I know someone who has one of those cases, it sucks. (Heat) Not sure if that's the problem, I would RMA your card. And as pointed out above, Radeon 9800 Pro's are dirt cheap now, they havn't been in the $300 range for a long time. (Unless you're talking aiw :>)

[legacy--Twista-]

OMG but u believe he has a ATIVidea RadForce 94500 64 GB AKR? :down: :down: