Ok, I beat the game, now what?

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

I beat the game, that's fine... it only took 10 hrs (and no it wasn't on the lowest level)

In any case, here is my question, I "unlock" the three characters at the end...so what is the use of them? I mean you can't add them to your crews...

With the three combined of nearly 99% on each stat except for aggression, what is the use of unlocking the characters?

Sure you can use their skins, but you don't get any other bonuses?

Cyberpawz

[legacy-Angelus]

Using em online proves you've at least beaten the game(or know how to modify an ini file, one or the other). Not sure what else you were expecting, FPS games aren't known for their great single-player experience.

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by Angelus
Using em online proves you've at least beaten the game(or know how to modify an ini file, one or the other). Not sure what else you were expecting, FPS games aren't known for their great single-player experience.

Possibly to use one, or have one traded for a character for the next level up?

I don't know, personally it's nice, but it doesn't do squat for me just to show that I beat the game. I mean you get teams you play against in the game, I would expect to be able to use the characters I beat...

I mean difficulty level should have a character at the end in which you can use in game play... (just my opinion)

(trading really isn't great in the game either)

Sure upgrading your character's team to possibly a few notches higher is fine, but there is a point where it doesn't matter and the other team has the obvious advantage. (upgrading from 85 to 87 really doesn't give you that much of an edge)

And by then, you don't really see much trading at all.

Hopefully 2004 will be better...and deal with some of these "issues"

[legacy-Angelus]

Yeah, the buy system they were going to use in 2003 would be nice.

[legacy-_ut=n00b_]

just play online

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by _ut=n00b_
just play online

I have been, but I have been getting tired of the "human" bots that are hanging around in the public servers.

I've been hanging around the Invasion, although the bots don't really have much a chance to do much in this level, so roughly everything is even.

Cyberpawz

[legacy-Chyron]

well i think the idea is that this is an online multiplayer game with a simple single player element tacked on to it. sure it's fine to complete the single player part but in your case you think that that's it, it's not. this is only the beginning, use the skills you've learned in single player to beat human opponents and get better at it. if you think that's just an extension of the SP element, you'd be right but it's different than playing AI routines.
if you still think that's not for you then consider getting single player (mainly) games, like Half Life or Deus Ex and their impending sequels.

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by Chyron
well i think the idea is that this is an online multiplayer game with a simple single player element tacked on to it. sure it's fine to complete the single player part but in your case you think that that's it, it's not. this is only the beginning, use the skills you've learned in single player to beat human opponents and get better at it. if you think that's just an extension of the SP element, you'd be right but it's different than playing AI routines.
if you still think that's not for you then consider getting single player (mainly) games, like Half Life or Deus Ex and their impending sequels.

As another thread I started before, playing against humans is one thing, but the fact that this "security" feature that they got going on, doesn't work, so even though you may be playing ageist "people" you aren't playing against people with skill, you are playing against people who can move fast, sure, but overall, no... the fact is that the game on public servers are flooded with hacks and bots.

So even though I may be playing against people, I don't know if these people are that good, or not... for some of the people I play against online, are either using a bot, or have no life.

I'd like to think that people spend more of their life doing more than playing games...

So even in that fact, I'd still like to know, after beating the game, is that all?

The one thing I don't like about the game, is that once you beat it, you can't advance your character difficulty wise. beat it on experienced, and you can't jump him to advanced... that sucks in my opinion.

Cyberpawz

[legacy-_ut=n00b_]

i duno if you are an ex-cs player or something, but ut2003 has ~0 aimbots currently
I think you are just getting whoped by people that are that much better than you

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by _ut=n00b_
i duno if you are an ex-cs player or something, but ut2003 has ~0 aimbots currently
I think you are just getting whoped by people that are that much better than you

And I've seen hacks that bypass that too online... so it's not as if it's not possible to bypass it.

aim/fire bots are still around, and have been for the PC systems for ages... what can be hacked will be, what is told to be unpassable, will be passed.

And I know a good player when I see one, and I know a bot when I see one... people who never miss is an impossibility.

Cyberpawz

P.S. My first experience gaming was a Texas Instrument that I had to program my self. My first FPS, was Wolfienstine. So needless to say I'm far from a noob, and I still can play quite well against some of these kids that "have no life"

[legacy-BoneCleaver]

If you've been around that long then you remember the neighbor kid that would take his ball home if you wouldn't play by his rules; I hated him. But I sure invied his power.

So if you want to run the game your way, build yourself a dedicated server and host your own games. That way the only Aimbots, Mutators, or MODS in the game are of your own choosing. And you can customize the environment to make it more inviting to all the people you really love to play with, and against, so they'll stick around.

It's a big internet. And there's no shortage of servers. So those that don't like the way you do things can just go play somewhere else.

[legacy-Chyron]

fine points indeed. but aimbots don't work like that, they are client-side meaning the host (server) computer has no control over them. i've seen and played in some games (mainly the half-life MODs) in which players had a huge disparity between kills to deaths and it aroused suspicion...note that these are present in the older games not like UT2003. however, if it exists people will always find ways of exploiting it.

[legacy-BoneCleaver]

There will allways be cheaters. And there will allways those of us who take great joy in exposing them and visiting shame and other unpleasant things upon them while continuing to play as if they did not exist.

If I think someone is cheating and I can prove it, I'll tell the world. If I can't prove it, I'll simply leave and put that URL on my personal banned list.

But while we're on this subject I would be interested in what kinds of things can be done from the server side of things to detect the kinds of cheats we're talkin about.

[legacy-Edepsiz]

... people who never miss is an impossibility.

Reeeeally? I don't think you have played UT2K3 long enough my friend. Try playing 1vs1 against some people like RUDO from LOB or |pure|two time or heck even A!M-Krascher when they get a hold of the LG. You'll see very fast that "humiliating" defeat" is a great possibility :haha:

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by Edepsiz
Reeeeally? I don't think you have played UT2K3 long enough my friend. Try playing 1vs1 against some people like RUDO from LOB or |pure|two time or heck even A!M-Krascher when they get a hold of the LG. You'll see very fast that "humiliating" defeat" is a great possibility :haha:

There is no such thing as such a person that never misses. It is statistically impossible. Even on the most difficult level of UT2003 the bot misses.

The fact is this, I can play against some of the best players (and have)I am not saying I am better than them, but I do know that they do miss.

So please don't tell me it's not impossible. Even the best players miss sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes.

Cyberpawz

[legacy-Edepsiz]

all right then buddy, I believe u. if the public servers are "FULL OF HACKS-AIMBOTS" as you put it, then I want the IPs of the servers where u have seen them and the nicks they go by. I have been playing on clan servers and pubs since the game came out and haven't seen a single creature that

1)I haven't been able to kill
2) That hits "EVERYTIME"

so, please go ahead and post it, I wanna see what this elusive aimbot looks like

[legacy-_ut=n00b_]

lighten up man, monkey was only kidding...
he is just saying that there are some people that are incredibly good, and dont cheat.
if you ever play with kracher, who is nowhere near as good as some pros and even others in his clan, you will be surprsed at how good some people are.

and i dont understand how odds plays into accuracy at all (godlike bots are not particularly good). If you miss, it is just because you didnt aim in the right place, not because the chances are against you... :bulb:

[legacy-Cyberpawz]

Originally posted by Edepsiz
all right then buddy, I believe u. if the public servers are "FULL OF HACKS-AIMBOTS" as you put it, then I want the IPs of the servers where u have seen them and the nicks they go by. I have been playing on clan servers and pubs since the game came out and haven't seen a single creature that

1)I haven't been able to kill
2) That hits "EVERYTIME"

so, please go ahead and post it, I wanna see what this elusive aimbot looks like

here is a suggestion, take some prozac and come back when you are more relaxed and willing to talk like an adult, and not some spaz.

Just because you have been playing a game since it first came out means squat. I played Myth when it first came out, and for a time I was one of the top 10 players in the International Board. Does it mean that I was good? No, it meant that I was lucky, and that I had no life.

My guess is that I have been playing games probably longer than you have been alive. That being said, I know good players when I see them, I also know a bot when I see one play.

Before thinking of a witty responce, think of this before you go any further. The best players barely miss, they known the maps in and out, and they know every secret that is known out there.

But when you see someone facing one direction, and kill you, and you are at another angle, something is fishy, don't you agree?

Cyberpawz

[legacy-Zen_5]

What's the big deal? Bad A$$ bot's, whatever, to answer your question. Yes you can use Brock & the others in Instiant action. Just don't use map default bots. That is if you just like playing with bots in a Sp mode.
I just like playing CTF with REAL PEOPLE if they kill me so what
makes the game that much more fun

[legacy-Chyron]

Originally posted by Zen_5
What's the big deal? Bad A$$ bot's, whatever, to answer your question. Yes you can use Brock & the others in Instiant action. Just don't use map default bots. That is if you just like playing with bots in a Sp mode.
I just like playing CTF with REAL PEOPLE if they kill me so what
makes the game that much more fun

heh, you've missed and misunderstood the point completely. what they are talking about are "aimbots" which is a small program you run before running the game. it makes you able to kill other human (or bots, i suppose) players without even facing their direction. it snaps automatically to an enemy player and you shoot. looking for huge differences between kills and deaths is a sign of session-abuse

[legacy-Abz]

if you get killed by every shot the chances are that your movement sux...(strafing, dodging, jumps) and most likely you're very predictable. :haha:

[legacy-_ut=n00b_]

it is really lame how many "noobs" are degrading ut2003s reputation by playing with people that are much better than them, and then *****ing about how those people must cheat because they made a moving headshot on me:cry:



I realize that some people do cheat in many games, but ut2003 is mostly clean for now. So give the people that are good enough to kick you ass credit for it, and if you really think they are cheating, spec and use fraps to record that persons playing, and release the movie publicly

just dont tell everyone that ut2003 is full of cheaters--keeping those people away from the game.:down: