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NineCoder
06-23-2012, 09:05 PM
We've all probably seen the new trailer/teaser of EPIC's new game, Gears of War: Judgment which is an obvious prequel from their first game, Gears of War. With all regards going towards the game makers, considering it's a new game and must be improved upon previous titles, we all see a glimpse of different changes, such as in terms of the weapons. One of them being the sniper rifle; it's semi-automatic, which it wasn't ever like before ( it was single fire, in case some people don't know ;) ) and I along many other people have been going "Well, wait a minute... if there was a semi-automatic sniper rifle in the prequel, then why isn't it not in the first Gears of War game?" for reasons that couldn't be explained why there's different and probably many multiple different types of new weapons, we simply just have to accept it and live on with it.

THOUGHTS:
People may have some ideas for weapons that may be in the game, who knows, what ever ideas you may come up with, they could be in the game, either simply by luck, or maybe EPIC may look at this thread and go "Oh, yeah, that's quite a good idea..let's go for it!" I know, the chances are slim, but hey, have some hope! Anyway, more to the point; if you have any ideas of weapons/equipment that would prove useful and different in the game, go ahead, send a message below and depending on how many people respond, I'll put in let's say, a top 5 of the best ideas. So, go on ahead, write your ideas below.

LIST OF WEAPONS ( Available in-game )

-Lancer
-Retro Lancer
-Hammerburst V.2
-Gnasher Shotgun
-Sawn/Sawed-off Shotgun
-Gorgon Pistol
-Boltok Pistol
-Snub Pistol
-Boomshot
-Torque Bow
-Longshot
-Digger
-Hammer of Dawn
-Frag Grenade
-Incendiary Grenade
-Ink Grenade
-Mulcher
-One-Shot
-Mortar
-Silverback ( One map, so far )
-Flamer
-Boomshield ( Not much of a weapon, but could count )
-Cleaver
-Meatshield/Bag & Tag ( Same as Boomshield, not sure what to class it as )
-Smoke Grenade
-Beta Hammerburst

This is the current list of weapons and equipment, on a small note, I may have missed something and I'm not 100% sure if I have everything noted and if I don't, notifying me of corrections would be accepted and an edit will take place.

Jim Tuna
06-23-2012, 09:44 PM
I hope they all return personally.

GuillotineFall
06-23-2012, 09:48 PM
But this takes place before the Events of Gears 1. Sawed-Off was introduced to the COG around the events of Gears 3. So maybe no Sawed-Off or retro (since the savage locust re-discovered it during the events of Gears 3)?

Jim Tuna
06-23-2012, 10:02 PM
But this takes place before the Events of Gears 1. Sawed-Off was introduced to the COG around the events of Gears 3. So maybe no Sawed-Off or retro (since the savage locust re-discovered it during the events of Gears 3)?

They'll both be in it.

ExecutionWTF
06-23-2012, 10:04 PM
Take away the mulcher and the oneshot. Way to much camp action going on with those two weapons. Remove the SoS And retro aswell and the silverback then i would be a happy Gear!

xX Skyhawk 14 Xx
06-23-2012, 10:05 PM
i believe the semi-automatic sniper is only in overrun

ValeraPitiesDaFool
06-23-2012, 10:50 PM
They'll both be in it.
This has been confirmed?

Gear-Star
06-23-2012, 10:56 PM
Gorgon really needs to be back in burst action.

LambentHammerburst
06-23-2012, 11:07 PM
But this takes place before the Events of Gears 1. Sawed-Off was introduced to the COG around the events of Gears 3. So maybe no Sawed-Off or retro (since the savage locust re-discovered it during the events of Gears 3)?

Sawed-Off was a civilian weapon. So it makes sense for it to be added as a pickup during campaign as you should expect to find some deceased civilians with it by them.

Retro's make perfect sense to keep. Actually they make MORE sense to keep over the Lancer. Previous storyline has said the Lancer MKII wasn't made until about a year after E-Day.

To the OP:
You forgot to add the Classic Hammerburst (Name it Beta Hammerburst)

NineCoder
06-24-2012, 12:21 AM
Sawed-Off was a civilian weapon. So it makes sense for it to be added as a pickup during campaign as you should expect to find some deceased civilians with it by them.

Retro's make perfect sense to keep. Actually they make MORE sense to keep over the Lancer. Previous storyline has said the Lancer MKII wasn't made until about a year after E-Day.

To the OP:
You forgot to add the Classic Hammerburst (Name it Beta Hammerburst)

Thanks for telling about that one, completely forgotten about that weapon.

DaRkNeSs
06-24-2012, 03:18 AM
My idea to get around keeping weapons introduced in G2/3 (Digger, OneShot, Scorcher, Incends) was for Kilo Squad to find malfunctioning versions of the weapons or prototypes in campaign. They could be working perfectly in MP, just malfunctioning and not built properly in canon.

Akamukane808
06-24-2012, 05:55 AM
I hope there is a chance of the use of duel guns!

Morry
09-08-2012, 08:32 PM
No Sawed-Off and no Retro everyone hates them and I would buy it if they are sorry but they are a scandal played all three and one is still the best yet.

TerrorTwilight
09-09-2012, 12:19 AM
I would like to see all the following weapons in GOWJ:

- Lancer (Gears 2 build)
- Hammerburst (Gears 2 build)
- Gnasher (Gears 3 build)
- Snub (Any)
- Boltok (Gears 3 build)
- Gorgon (Gears 2 build)
- Longshot (Gears 3 build)
- Torque (Gears 2 build)
- Boomshot (Gears 2 build - 2 rounds)
- Digger
- Hammer of Dawn (Gears 1 build - Infinite ammo - unless there is no Longshot on map)
- Mulcher (Any)
- Mortar (Any)
- Smokes (Gears 1 build)
- Frags (Gears 2 build)
- Inks (Gears 2 build)
- Incendiaries (with FIXED hitbox detection)

LobotiCasta+ion
09-09-2012, 12:30 AM
I would like to see all the following weapons in GOWJ:

- Lancer (Gears 2 build)
- Hammerburst (Gears 2 build)
- Gnasher (Gears 3 build)
- Snub (Any)
- Boltok (Gears 3 build)
- Gorgon (Gears 2 build)
- Longshot (Gears 3 build)
- Torque (Gears 3 build)
- Boomshot (Gears 2 build - 2 rounds)
- Digger
- Hammer of Dawn (Gears 1 build - Infinite ammo - unless there is no Longshot on map)
- Mulcher (Any)
- Mortar (Gears 2 build ((hipfire)))
- Smokes (Gears 1 build)
- Frags (Gears 2 build)
- Inks (Gears 2 build)

My "corrections" in bold.

General.Raam
09-09-2012, 05:59 AM
What weapons I want to see?
New ones!

Ratman Fi
09-09-2012, 06:09 AM
As much as I'd love to see the old school Hammerburst in Judgments multiplayer, it may never happen. But I'd love to have this weapon as a Campaign Easter Egg atleast!

Sabbath91
09-09-2012, 06:35 AM
My "corrections" in bold.

Seriously, you prefere the GoW 3 Torque to the GoW 2 one? Why? The GoW 2 torque had a much better aiming reticule and actually had some decent splash damage.

Anyway, on to the weapons. I've always been a "keep everything from the previous game" type of guy but may break that rule for retro and SOS :P Unfortunately they are confirmed to come back so ah well :(
Id like the digger to be altered so it travels faster or pops out the ground faster or some sort of change so its actually useful for its intended purpose!

bleeding pepper
09-09-2012, 06:57 AM
I'd like to see variations of current weapons like a Silenced Snub Pistol - maybe this would remove the scope/zoom and the silencer compensates by not indicating from what direction the enemy is taking damage from? This would allow for sneak attacks on unsuspecting enemies, causing them to panic as they're all of a sudden taking damage but have no idea from where. They could also reduce the visibility of the bullet as for this weapon too.

Flashbangs would be nice too - obviously they would temporarily blind people (friendlies and hostiles) so effective us requires co-ordination with team mates but would be effective to spread panic amongst the enemy, especially when they're camped out on the defensive.

And the Inks need a slight fix. Reduce the total stun to a minor stun like the Smoke Grenades (so that people can walk about, unable to perform actions and remove the ability to roll for that stun-period) and that will do. Or just add a bounce which gives players half a second to roll away.

The Last Fighter
09-09-2012, 07:31 AM
I'd love GOWJ without retro lancer and sawed off but unfortunately there will be both of them!

Maaaaaz
09-09-2012, 08:11 AM
Now I know the Retro and SO are making a return my hopes have already been dashed.

ValeraPitiesDaFool
09-09-2012, 10:02 AM
Now I know the Retro and SO are making a return my hopes have already been dashed.
I remember Cliffy saying to a player that the SO would be out by release.

Though that player was playing FFA. So it might not be in FFA at least.

The Shadman
09-09-2012, 10:26 AM
no joke i want the retro ans sawed off back
as seen on my sig they aren't my prefered weapons but i still like them

Angry Old Feral
09-09-2012, 02:40 PM
I hope they all stay. Even the Sawed-Off and Retro.

I love the weapons Epic comes out with. Everything from the way they look and how each one performs.

If they do scrap the SO and Retro, I hope they put in new equipment. I feel like the "Lancer/HB and Gnasher is the only way to play" mentality kind of holds the series back and keeps it from evolving. Don't get me wrong... I loved Gears 1, but the franchise needs to grow.

Sacred Samurai
09-09-2012, 03:24 PM
Hope Retro doesnt get included worst weapon ever put in Gears (which it will of course), it has no place in judgement! I refuse to kill anyone with it in gears 3 and no im not going for 3.0.

xGearsCarnage
09-09-2012, 05:11 PM
A harpoon sort of weapon.

Angry Old Feral
09-10-2012, 03:09 PM
A harpoon sort of weapon.

That would be righteous. Like an air-powered speargun or something.

LambentHammerburst
09-10-2012, 03:58 PM
Hope Retro doesnt get included worst weapon ever put in Gears (which it will of course), it has no place in judgement! I refuse to kill anyone with it in gears 3 and no im not going for 3.0.
Why doesn't it?
It was used during the Pendulum Wars and used for awhile AFTER E-Day. Game takes place shortly after E-Day. In the original canon the Retro Lancer would of been the only choice as the Lancer MKII wouldnt of been created yet during GoWJ's events. The canon (story of the Lancer MKII) was changed so it would be present in the game.
So it sadly does have a place in GoWJ, moreso than the Lancer MKII

Coleyman
09-10-2012, 04:11 PM
Stomper. For the lulz.

Oh, come on, a belt-fed, mounted grenade launcher? You know you love it!

Lost in Jungle
09-10-2012, 06:37 PM
I hope all the weapons return except for the Retro Lancer or maybe the Sawed Off Shotgun, those two, especially the Retro, were just ridiculous in Gears3.

Tweaks for most power weapons however would be good, like making the boomshot have 2 rounds, stuff like that.

LambentHammerburst
09-10-2012, 10:42 PM
I hope all the weapons return except for the Retro Lancer or maybe the Sawed Off Shotgun, those two, especially the Retro, were just ridiculous in Gears3.

Tweaks for most power weapons however would be good, like making the boomshot have 2 rounds, stuff like that.

Both are confirmed to return

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LambentHammerburst
09-11-2012, 02:34 AM
After browsing Pete Hayes Flickr page Epic scrapped a few weapons that were modeled.
In GoW2 there was a HoD TURRET. (Will get image later)

However in Gears 3 there were 3 weapons cut.
Locust Buzzsaw - I would of LOVED this. One of my favorite weapons in UT was the Ripper.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6834206593_83f8c78f4e_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6834206593_83f8c78f4e_b.jpg

CoG Stim Pistol
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg

CoG Rocket Launcher (looks like it would be AWESOME to use. However definitely a heavy weapon)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6834199297_1804f894d4_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6834199297_1804f894d4_b.jpg

LambentHammerburst
09-11-2012, 02:48 AM
Oh and I'd love to see this gun:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lPHaN3GxU9w/TVP9hLuXJnI/AAAAAAAAHUM/QCWSpLx5vKk/s1600/gears_of_war1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lPHaN3GxU9w/TVP9hLuXJnI/AAAAAAAAHUM/QCWSpLx5vKk/s1600/gears_of_war1.jpg
Was removed before GoW1's release. I honestly think it was the original starter rifle and then replaced with the Lancer.

Angry Old Feral
09-11-2012, 01:51 PM
Locust... Buzzsaw...
http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/2118-did-i-say-that.jpg
...MUST HAVE.

LambentHammerburst
09-11-2012, 08:02 PM
Locust... Buzzsaw...
http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/2118-did-i-say-that.jpg
...MUST HAVE.

Think they removed it due to Torque. They look similar. However they could add it and simply make it a weapon that the Torquw and it swap on rounds. Give it less range (starts to fall over distance) and grant it a Chainsaw-like melee (spins blades instead of slapping enemy with weapon)

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whyumad
09-12-2012, 12:14 AM
I would like to see the Sawed-off and Retro both return as starters. They're both fun to use and bring much needed variety to the starting weapons list.

Sttaid
09-12-2012, 12:17 AM
fully customizable starting wepons...
able to make hammerburst like the gears 1 hammer..put a bayonette on it etc.
dual snubs things like that but keeping the starting wepons balanced

Eriko hemming
09-12-2012, 01:14 AM
Stim pistol please

Devious Sektor
09-12-2012, 01:17 AM
Think they removed it due to Torque. They look similar. However they could add it and simply make it a weapon that the Torquw and it swap on rounds. Give it less range (starts to fall over distance) and grant it a Chainsaw-like melee (spins blades instead of slapping enemy with weapon)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 2How about an arcing trajectory like the boomshot for it.

Parasidian
09-12-2012, 01:17 AM
I like the idea of the Stim Pistol being able to review a team mate from a distance. :D

LambentHammerburst
09-23-2012, 05:13 PM
I would just hope they add all of the GoW3 removed guns and simply add them in for Private Match Weapon Switch options. Then occasionally add them in for events.
Just because a weapon may be imbalanced or another weapon already fits its use doesn't mean it should be removed. Removed from standard gameplay - yes. Private matches for fun - allow it.
They did this in UT. You could re-enable the Unreal 1 weapons along with the Quadshot (removed from Unreal 1) through mutators and use them. Bring this back.
Hell even make them unlockables. Rocket Launcher - get 1000 kills with the Boomshot - unlocks it for Private Matches. Get 500/1000 kills with Torque - get the Buzzsaw for private. ect

Gnashty NaS
09-23-2012, 08:26 PM
It's all because of gameplay, canon has nothing to do with weapons, new game, new weapons, that's how it works. I want no boomshot, however I'm sure that won't happen so Nerf that dang thing.

Mr shWo
09-23-2012, 08:48 PM
i wanna see all of them plus many more, im personally a fan of large arsenals and have always been a huge fan of the weapons in gears...what the hell is the beta hammerburst, does that mean gow 1 burst version? if so change it to gow 1 hammerburst as beta hammerburst makes no sense at all

BMCM4716
09-23-2012, 08:51 PM
Just make sure the gnasher is right and i'm good

IronAssassin38
09-24-2012, 02:09 PM
'NineCoder' missed out Ink Grenades and Retro Sawn/Sawed-Off Shotgun, so edit it.

IronAssassin38
09-24-2012, 02:20 PM
remember when locust dug out of ground in emergence day. how???
Maybe pickaxe?
maybe new melee weapons such as knife that dom had in gow 3. you can throw it and stab or do a silent execution. even hold the leader a hostage in CTL match.

IronAssassin38
09-24-2012, 02:22 PM
also i want to see new dual wielding abilities that armoured kantus did with hi-tech SMG guns that do low damage but fast rate

DaRkNeSs
09-24-2012, 05:49 PM
I want some form of duel wield SMG.

LambentHammerburst
09-24-2012, 05:59 PM
i wanna see all of them plus many more, im personally a fan of large arsenals and have always been a huge fan of the weapons in gears...what the hell is the beta hammerburst, does that mean gow 1 burst version? if so change it to gow 1 hammerburst as beta hammerburst makes no sense at all
Makes perfect sense.
The GoW1 Hammerburst was redesigned to become the Hammerburst we have now. Basically a prototype. The HB we have now is commonly named Hammerburst MKII. Much like how the Lancer is the Lancer MKII while Retro Lancer is actually called "Lancer" it was the MKI.
So instead of simply saying Hammerburst MKII and Hammerburst MKI - naming it the Beta Hammerburst or even Proto Hammerburst (Protoburst) to represent "Prototype" works great.

II TH4 K1NG II
09-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Makes perfect sense.
The GoW1 Hammerburst was redesigned to become the Hammerburst we have now. Basically a prototype. The HB we have now is commonly named Hammerburst MKII. Much like how the Lancer is the Lancer MKII while Retro Lancer is actually called "Lancer" it was the MKI.
So instead of simply saying Hammerburst MKII and Hammerburst MKI - naming it the Beta Hammerburst or even Proto Hammerburst (Protoburst) to represent "Prototype" works great.

I like that. The "ProtoBurst". OT I want to see pretty much every weapon there is now.

Mr shWo
09-28-2012, 12:02 AM
After browsing Pete Hayes Flickr page Epic scrapped a few weapons that were modeled.
In GoW2 there was a HoD TURRET. (Will get image later)

However in Gears 3 there were 3 weapons cut.
Locust Buzzsaw - I would of LOVED this. One of my favorite weapons in UT was the Ripper.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6834206593_83f8c78f4e_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6834206593_83f8c78f4e_b.jpg

CoG Stim Pistol
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg

CoG Rocket Launcher (looks like it would be AWESOME to use. However definitely a heavy weapon)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6834199297_1804f894d4_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6834199297_1804f894d4_b.jpg

seriously we need the rocket launcher and especially need the saw gun...c'mon that's just awesome

TG47
09-28-2012, 12:12 AM
CoG Stim Pistol
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6834198189_2dcbe4079a_b.jpg

Maybe the healing COG Stim Pistol is the kind of thing Waldo was talking about (http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/927872-To-all-the-talk-in-GoW-J-about-no-DBNO?p=30754863&viewfull=1#post30754863). Who knows!!

Mr shWo
09-28-2012, 12:21 AM
Maybe the healing COG Stim Pistol is the kind of thing Waldo was talking about (http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/927872-To-all-the-talk-in-GoW-J-about-no-DBNO?p=30754863&viewfull=1#post30754863). Who knows!!

definitely a possibility although it would be funny cause supposedly it was cliffs idea and everyone on the team crapped on it

GVincent
09-28-2012, 06:43 AM
But this takes place before the Events of Gears 1. Sawed-Off was introduced to the COG around the events of Gears 3. So maybe no Sawed-Off or retro (since the savage locust re-discovered it during the events of Gears 3)?

This is a year after E-Day. They haven't changed to Lancer V2 (Chainsaw) yet. They said something about changing it a bit though.

jmfchuckie
09-28-2012, 07:09 AM
Just make sure the gnasher is right and i'm good
This is what I'm worried about in Judgment. I feel that no matter what weapons they put into the game, it will still be Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher... I personally hope the Gnasher is nerfed or a power weapon. If people love it so much, I think it's time that it's a power weapon. Then people might play strategically instead of constantly rush...

Coleyman
09-28-2012, 07:40 AM
This is what I'm worried about in Judgment. I feel that no matter what weapons they put into the game, it will still be Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher, Gnasher... I personally hope the Gnasher is nerfed or a power weapon. If people love it so much, I think it's time that it's a power weapon. Then people might play strategically instead of constantly rush...

Gnasher is the most preferred weapon to use in Gears - that's why it still remains the most used weapon in Gears 3 after the rifles were overpowered to an insane degree. The simple fact of the matter is that the Gnasher is what's keeping a lot of players on this game; if you make it a power weapon, the game will die out.

Also, your naive assumption about how Gnasher players don't 'play strategically' tells me you know very little about this game.

Ragnarock1982
09-28-2012, 08:40 AM
A lazer rifle that you can use to 'limb' enemies. . . .kinda like the line gun in dead space!

xFOAxREAPER
09-28-2012, 09:22 AM
Retro, Sawed off in. the LONGSHOT Sniper rifle, is in as in the one round bolt action rifle we know and love, The BREECHSHOT rifle has a four round mag, bolt action, also another rifle, (green has a scope and a mag) has been seen on Sofia's back in a FFA video at PAX. There are many additional wepon changes, frags are less power, and DBNO is not in Overrun, or FFA (only confirmed modes. Others TBA)
*Edit* Also the Gnasher is a pickup wepon in FFA. Because in FFA you start with, your rife, snub, and granades. Judgement is 1 A.E. Therefore the MK. 2 Lancer is the standard COG Assault Rifle. (For anyone that thought otherwise.

Mr shWo
09-28-2012, 01:49 PM
This is a year after E-Day. They haven't changed to Lancer V2 (Chainsaw) yet. They said something about changing it a bit though.

gotta throw all that stuff out the window in the name of fun

DanTheGamer11
09-28-2012, 01:55 PM
Crazy guns, PCF had great ones in Bulletstorm

Csdabest
10-03-2012, 08:59 PM
With the Semi-auto sniper rifle. It could be explain that since one of the characters is from the UIR that COG and UIR have different technologies and models. So the Semi auto rifle is most likely from the UIR. Especially with that UIR character being the scout sniper class.