Petition to get RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge as Free DLC! Over 650 Fans Want Them

[COGKiller4 Ever]

MAJOR UPDATE: It has been confirmed by Quinn that the Locust will not feature in Versus MP apparently EPIC said the COG are more approachable as Characters so basically that's the reason we won't be playing as Locust which is a bit of a stupid thing to say as we know the Locust are Unique and are very approachable as Characters. So this thread is now to try and get RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops as Free DLC in the Future!


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This is the reason from EPIC why the Locust aren't playable.


Went through the long list of community questions in the bchaps thread (thanks man, great to have all that organized!!) and put together as many answers as I could. I'll hang around and answer more tonight!

• There was talk that the no Locust in MP was a misquote...is this true?
--if this is true, where did the data come from saying that people didn't want locust in MP?
--if it is a balance issue, why not allow locust and CoG to fight side by side (like in UT)?

[EPIC] It was a misquote to say that people didn’t want to play as the Locust – our fans are incredibly excited about playing as the Locust and we’ve specifically designed our new Overrun game mode around not only playing as the Locust but actually getting to feel what it’s like to have the strengths and abilities of the multitude of creatures that are part of the Locust Horde. The Locust have been removed from some of our other competitive multiplayer modes (FFA, Domination, TDM, etc.), and this decision was made not only for reasons of game balance and accessibility, but primarily because it allowed us to explore the depth of personalities of the human characters. Our players really identify with their favorite characters from the Gears universe, and by focusing on them in our MP modes, we’re able to give those characters even more personality, depth, and unique qualities that our fans have requested.

• We've heard that MP is all CoG v CoG now (because people didn't like Locust). Is this true?
--What about people who are Color Blind? (any color blind assist option?)
--Wont the character's voices (battle chatter) be confusing?
--Will we be seeing locust? (particularly, RAAM, Skorge, Sniper, Kantus...[the characters discussed daily on the forums])

[EPIC] See response above

We all knew Skorge and Cyclops didn't make the cut into Gears 3 but I wonder for what reason? Epic knew they were been demanded for but it was never really explained why they didn't make the cut. Also to cut to the chase Alex Brand was been demanded for to feature in Gears 3 but didn't she didn't make the cut either, but now with her recent announcement to feature in Gears of War Judgment that can only give us a bit more hope that we see Skorge and Cyclops back.

I can't see why RAAM wouldn't be a MP Character in Judgment, RAAM was also around during the timeline of Judgment as he led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right through until his death fourteen years later which was the Lightmass Offensive and Judgment is set three months/Few Weeks after E-Day so a brief appearance from RAAM in the Campaign is likely but I think maybe the attention is set of a New Locust Villain. Seen as RAAM's Shadow DLC for Gears 3 was very popular with the fans, I think we will most likely see RAAM back in Judgment's Multiplayer at least, to be honest I can't see why Epic would leave him out because as we know "Everyone loves RAAM"

The reason of this thread as you have no doubt gathered is to bring back the characters General RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge for Multiplayer. Every Votes counts and hopefully this time Epic will understand that the community want Skorge and Cyclops, as they were missed from Gears 3. Also most RAAM fans have been using him since Gears of War 1 and it would be a shame not to have that Legend back in the forth installment. So get those votes up high and vote for the Horde!

I was informed by Cyclops 100 (http://forums.epicgames.com/members/1468739-Cyclops-100) that he said that he Noticed Cyclops was featured in VGA Judgment Campaign Trailer and he managed to get some snaps from the Trailer. Great news but we need him in Multiplayer as well.

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http://images.wikia.com/randomgearsstuff/images/b/b7/Cyclops_vs_onyx_guard.png


Video Here Supporting RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge, Its a Must See!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ar4IMSO9I&list=FLfQTDeR-AVRgTVbLOGLEHaA&feature=mh_lolz

Thanks to R3D Diesel (http://forums.epicgames.com/members/1525803-R3D-Diesel) for making this Video!




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Thanks for everyone for voting in the Poll to Support General RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops for MP but a Big Credit goes to:

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[GearsCat]

Yes.

10Yes.

I support this.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Yes.

10Yes.

I support this.

Yeah its good to know, it would be badass to see these three Locust making it into the Multiplayer.

[lewisnic1]

I support this. I really would like to see RAAM making a comeback to multiplayer. As for Skorge and Cyclops, it only seems fair to add them to Judgment's Multiplayer. :p

[Valafar123]

What I really want to happen:

Commando from GoW1: RAAM

Suicide Missionary from GoW2: Skorge

That's Just Crazy from GoW3: Myrrah

Veteran Gear from GoW2: Palace Guard (I don't care if his helmet obscures vision a bit, I want the option to play as him)

And of course Cyclops should be in the game. Maybe for a Gold Lancer medal?

[Predalian5]

Lol, Third poll on adding skorge

[COGKiller4 Ever]

What I really want to happen:

Commando from GoW1: RAAM

Suicide Missionary from GoW2: Skorge

That's Just Crazy from GoW3: Myrrah

Veteran Gear from GoW2: Palace Guard (I don't care if his helmet obscures vision a bit, I want the option to play as him)

And of course Cyclops should be in the game. Maybe for a Gold Lancer medal?

Well all those ideas sound GREAT! It would prove how dedicated the fans would be to unlock the characters. Cyclops however I couldn't think of the best idea for him? of course it would have to be something to do with the Lancer as we know they are totally obsessed with it. :D

[STK Knoxy]

Gow1 Achievement Best Served Cold Should Unlock Classic RAAM when he had no lights on his armor and his armor was pitch black no silver or grey and brown just black.

[DenyThisFlesh]

I don't care about Skorge or Cyclops, but RAAM being in the game would make sense considering the time frame.

[Valafar123]

Gow1 Achievement Best Served Cold Should Unlock Classic RAAM when he had no lights on his armor and his armor was pitch black no silver or grey and brown just black.

Too easy imo. Defeating their respective campaigns on insane is much harder.

Hardcore RAAM < Insane everything

[Cyclops 100]

YES! I support this!
RAAM should be in this because he is an all time favorite! He is one badass character and this would not be Gears without him.
Skorge and Cyclops need to be in GOWJ because of all the demand they had for Gears 3. People demanded and demanded but they did not turn up. Hopefully Epic saved them for GOWJ.

RAAM- Complete all Gears of War 1 acts on Insane.
Skorge- Complete all Gears of War 2 acts on Insane.
Cyclops- Get 1000 kills with the chainsaw bayonet Or even the Lancer.

[War Pigs]

Too easy imo. Defeating their respective campaigns on insane is much harder.

Hardcore RAAM < Insane everythingThis^ i still think Gears on insane is one of the most difficult campaigns to play, and i stilllll die A LLOOOOOTTT even after almost 6 years.

[DanTheGamer11]

They should be the adolescent versions of them :p

[Valafar123]

This^ i still think Gears on insane is one of the most difficult campaigns to play, and i stilllll die A LLOOOOOTTT even after almost 6 years.

It would also prevent character overuse. If Myrrah was for the "That's Just Crazy" achievement, we wouldn't have 4 of her on every team. We have more Queens than Drones.

And if you see Skorge running around, you know you're in trouble. GoW2 on Insane isn't anything a rookie could pull off. That **** was crazy.

[JP5]

Skorge and cyclops should definately be in the game. I feel sorry for people who used them in the 2nd game and didn't have them for the 3rd. As for RAAM sure why the hell not?

[Clayman XIII]

RAAM and Cyclops make sense, I don't know about Skorge though. I would like him for mp but you never know what they'll do.

[Clone Recon]

Yes I want all of them for mp characters. I dont think they wont do this for raam cause they did raams shadow, but how cool would it be if skorge was in the campaign of judgement.

[Valafar123]

I just hope Skorge has the correct character model and a normal hitbox. The GoW2 model looked awful and was buggy as hell. :/

[Scar Tisshoo]

Skorge please and thank you.

[CHAINS4W]

Yes Please...a;though SKorge wouldnt really make sense.

[NP473L]

Too easy imo. Defeating their respective campaigns on insane is much harder.

Hardcore RAAM < Insane everything

And it would actually make me finish up the Gears 1 Campaign on Insane. I'm still stuck on beating RAAM.

I support that idea.

[STK Knoxy]

Well either way ill be glad if the 3 return ive completed every gears game on insane and gears 3 with no mutators when cliffy b said the games are getting too easy he was right if judgment is as hard as they are making it out to be then i will look forward to this challenge BRING IT!!!

[COGKiller4 Ever]

RAAM and Cyclops make sense, I don't know about Skorge though. I would like him for mp but you never know what they'll do.

Well yeah like you said definitely RAAM and Cyclops, but Skorge is also badass so he must come as well. It would only make sense to see Skorge as many asked for him along with Cyclops for Gears 3 but that didn't turn out to happen, so seeing them in GOWJ would only make sense. As for RAAM he is just generally badass so I think he will definitely make in into Judgment. :D

[lewisnic1]

Gow1 Achievement Best Served Cold Should Unlock Classic RAAM when he had no lights on his armor and his armor was pitch black no silver or grey and brown just black.

I think EPIC would just stick to the one RAAM Model and that would be the one from Gears of War 3. One of the reasons is because he is alot more of a detailed character model and secondly the way the Characters were fast paced in Gears 3 that is exactly in Judgment. So Epic would have to use RAAM's Model from Gears 3 to co-inside with the fast pasted multiplayer in Gears Judgment.

[Trugamer97]

Yes but you really need to stop excluding Bolter. :(

[CARMINE COG]

Skorge won't be in Judgment I think.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Skorge won't be in Judgment I think.

Well nobody knows, infact it wouldn't surprise me to see Skorge in GOWJ Multiplayer due to the fact he was been demanded for by the community to feature in Gears of War 3 Multiplayer but Epic decided against that for some reason, and that reason was probably the fact they were concentrating on working on GOWJ. If Epic put two and two together they could kill two birds with one stone, they could put Skorge in Gears of War Judgment, fans get him, then Epic then get £45 which it how much Gears Judgment is currently up for Pre-Order.

Also don't get me wrong RAAM and Cyclops are also extremely popular but the question was about Skorge. :D

[Bazinga-A7X]

It would also prevent character overuse. If Myrrah was for the "That's Just Crazy" achievement, we wouldn't have 4 of her on every team. We have more Queens than Drones.

And if you see Skorge running around, you know you're in trouble. GoW2 on Insane isn't anything a rookie could pull off. That **** was crazy.

We had Myrah from the beginning because a female character was needed for the Locust side for that bloody Battle Mistress medal.

[Valafar123]

We had Myrah from the beginning because a female character was needed for the Locust side for that bloody Battle Mistress medal.

Which was a stupid, stupid medal. Myrrah should be an unlock so I don't need to see 4 of her a match. -.-

[Flame Theron]

Heck yes to that. I was also wondering if since it's a prequel RAAM would make some sort of appearance in the campaign.

[shen Gaoren AJ]

I totally agree!!! They should add them.

[STK Knoxy]

Then who are the idiots who voted no they must be mentaly challenged or COG Lovers

[Viewing the hue]

who said no! damn psychos

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Then who are the idiots who voted no they must be mentaly challenged or COG Lovers

Yeah they must be COG Lovers, don't get me wrong everyone is in-titled to an opinion but RAAM, Skorge and and Cyclops would fit nicely into GOWJ and we need more votes! Best idea would be to bang this thread on your signature. :D

[III HOOP III]

YES!! And bring back RIVER too.

[GearsPro23]

I hope they make the cut for the same reasons as everyone else.Skorge,Cyclops, and RAAM were BADA55

[Valafar123]

who said no! damn psychos

You can tell by clicking the votes.

[lewisnic1]

I hope they make the cut for the same reasons as everyone else.Skorge,Cyclops, and RAAM were BADA55

Yeah all three of them are totally badass!! I just hope all three of them make it into Judgment's Multiplayer, I can't see why they wouldn't as all three of them are popular characters, RAAM especially.

[DaRkNeSs]

Yes. Be nice to see them in campaign too:

RAAM w/ Elite Maulers and Elite Theron's
Skorge w/ Elite Grinders and Elite Kantus'

[SHMEEDIDDY]

All I want, No I demand my Skorge, I dont mind RAAM, but to damn annoying to use him in my sperpective. Skorge was my absolute Fave. MP charcter, and him for few moment(s) in the campaign would be sweet, like him in the background of the game a dark shadowy figure during the war and General RAAM not in shadow and guiding his army of locust destroying sera in general! I want Skorge back since he wasnt in Gow 3, make him abit different too!

[lewisnic1]

Yes. Be nice to see them in campaign too:

RAAM w/ Elite Maulers and Elite Theron's
Skorge w/ Elite Grinders and Elite Kantus'

Yeah that actually sounds pretty cool, but I can only see them been multiplayer characters. The only reason why I say that is because I have a feeling Judgment will focus on a new Locust boss that we've never seen before. However RAAM has led the Locust Horde from the very beginning of E-Day right through until his death fourteen years later and considering Judgment takes place three months after E-Day a Cameo of RAAM is likely in the Campaign.


All I want, No I demand my Skorge, I dont mind RAAM, but to damn annoying to use him in my sperpective. Skorge was my absolute Fave. MP charcter, and him for few moment(s) in the campaign would be sweet, like him in the background of the game a dark shadowy figure during the war and General RAAM not in shadow and guiding his army of locust destroying sera in general! I want Skorge back since he wasnt in Gow 3, make him abit different too!

How can you find RAAM annoying? He is totally badass, his voice is Legendary. Skorge I can only see him been a MP Character as for RAAM he may feature in the Campaign for a brief stint/cameo as he led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until his death fourteen years later and Judgment takes place three months after E-Day so he may appear for a brief time but if not RAAM will likely just be a MP Character.

[SHMEEDIDDY]

Yeah that actually sounds pretty cool, but I can only see them been multiplayer characters. The only reason why I say that is because I have a feeling Judgment will focus on a new Locust boss that we've never seen before. However RAAM has led the Locust Horde from the very beginning of E-Day right through until his death fourteen years later and considering Judgment takes place three months after E-Day a Cameo of RAAM is likely in the Campaign.

How can you find RAAM annoying? He is totally badass, his voice is Legendary. Skorge I can only see him been a MP Character as for RAAM he may feature in the Campaign for a brief stint/cameo as he led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until his death fourteen years later and Judgment takes place three months after E-Day so he may appear for a brief time but if not RAAM will likely just be a MP Character.

I just cant stand him or using RAAM in general, I'am a veteran gearhear. Just an opinion to my taste...I like Skorge much better cuz how he looks much diff. from the rest before Savage kantas came in...C'mon a Locust with crazy ass Dreadlocks...and a twin bladded chainsaw staff. reminds me a Darth Maul In Starwars and Darth Vader as RAAM...Skorge Fast and Skilled, and RAAM slow and brutal!

[lewisnic1]

I just cant stand him or using RAAM in general, I'am a veteran gearhear. Just an opinion to my taste...I like Skorge much better cuz how he looks much diff. from the rest before Savage kantas came in...C'mon a Locust with crazy ass Dreadlocks...and a twin bladded chainsaw staff. reminds me a Darth Maul In Starwars and Darth Vader as RAAM...Skorge Fast and Skilled, and RAAM slow and brutal!

Well RAAM is extremely badass and is very popular among Gears fans, I have used him in every Gears game so far. Also It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest to see him back in Gears of War Judgment's Multiplayer, also I think Skorge and Cyclops will be in there as well. Yes Skorge is awesome but I would choose RAAM obviously has he has been my overall favorite since Gears 1 and hopefully I will be running around as him on Judgment Maps as well.

[Cyclops 100]

Well RAAM is extremely badass and is very popular among Gears fans, I have used him in every Gears game so far. Also It wouldn't suprise me in the slightest to see him back in Gears of War Judgment's Multiplayer, also I think Skorge and Cyclops will be in there as well. Yes Skorge is awesome but I would choose RAAM obviously has he has been my overall favorite since Gears 1 and hopefully I will be running around as him on Judgment Maps as well.

I cant see Gears not having RAAM among the MP characters in the game. He has been in 1,2 and 3 so far so why not include him in the forth one? He is probably the most popular Locust character so yeah RAAM needs to be in it. Skorge and Cyclops probably have more chance than alot of characters because they were easily the most demanded characters for Gears 3, and I highly doubt Epic would let that brush past them without even considering them for the fourth game.

[lewisnic1]

Yeah your totally right. Personally I can see all three Locust been part of Judgment's Versus Multiplayer.

[Masteralex09]

Fun Fact: RAAM was in the Dust to Dust GOW 3 Trailer

Answer to Poll: Obviously

[lewisnic1]

Fun Fact: RAAM was in the Dust to Dust GOW 3 Trailer

Answer to Poll: Obviously

Yeah your right and he was even badass for those few seconds he was show. :D
What if he appeared for a few seconds in a Judgment Trailer? unlikely, he will probably only feature in Multiplayer.

[Terra D Serph]

Well all those ideas sound GREAT! It would prove how dedicated the fans would be to unlock the characters. Cyclops however I couldn't think of the best idea for him? of course it would have to be something to do with the Lancer as we know they are totally obsessed with it. :D

How about getting "Sir Lancers-a-Lot"(onyx medal for Lancer kills) in Judgement(assuming there's going to be medals)? :p or the Gears 2 Chainsaw Battle Achievement. :D I think either will work for that.





I can see RAAM and Cyclops being added to Versus Judgement. I can't see Skorge. Would I like a Kantus variant? Sure, but I personally like the Kantus in its original dirty-priest outfit. :D

Reasons: RAAM was introduced to Gears 3 only because of the RAAM's Shadow DLC. They had a reason to bring him back. Most of their characters, aside from the LE versions, were mostly based off of the theme of the DLC or Gears 3. A lot of Savage everything was introduced or reintroduced, Savage Marauder, Savage Hunter, Savage Kantus(LE), Savage Grenadier Elite(LE). I can't really think of any more at the moment. Unless they had a DLC pack or mentioned a bit about Skorge, I can't see him making a return.

[John Matrix]

It'd be interesting to see an overhauled SKORGE in the campaign, with a new look and fighting style, and it would be justifiable given it's a prequel.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

How about getting "Sir Lancers-a-Lot"(onyx medal for Lancer kills) in Judgement(assuming there's going to be medals)? :p or the Gears 2 Chainsaw Battle Achievement. :D I think either will work for that.





I can see RAAM and Cyclops being added to Versus Judgement. I can't see Skorge. Would I like a Kantus variant? Sure, but I personally like the Kantus in its original dirty-priest outfit. :D

Reasons: RAAM was introduced to Gears 3 only because of the RAAM's Shadow DLC. They had a reason to bring him back. Most of their characters, aside from the LE versions, were mostly based off of the theme of the DLC or Gears 3. A lot of Savage everything was introduced or reintroduced, Savage Marauder, Savage Hunter, Savage Kantus(LE), Savage Grenadier Elite(LE). I can't really think of any more at the moment. Unless they had a DLC pack or mentioned a bit about Skorge, I can't see him making a return.

Sounds a good idea for Cyclops, as for RAAM we already know he was introduced to Gears 3 because of RAAM's Shadow. Epic did the DLC for two reasons, One they had been planning to do it for years and two RAAM is very popular within the Gears Universe so making the DLC Epic knew that they would gain alot of money considering how popular the character is. Like you said I can see RAAM been apart of the Multiplayer in GOWJ due to him been popular with the fans, as for Skorge and Cyclops they were been highly demanded for in Gears 3 so Epic probably already knew that but they where already making Judgment so they may include both of them in GOWJ as MP Characters.

[Scar Tisshoo]

I can see raam and cyclops but for Skorge it doesn't look too good.

[UNCL3 T1AN]

I'm hoping that GOWJ will feature a Campaign based DLC similar to RAAM's Shadow. They could use it as an opportunity to explore RAAM or Skorge's rise to power. I mean these two high-ranking Locust must have done something to earn their fame.

[Golden Hunter]

More characters the better indeed.

[GearsCat]

Bump for Rohan!

[Bspencer]

They won't be in the game, but yes.

[UNCL3 T1AN]

They won't be in the game, but yes.

you make it sound as if it's fact...any evidence?

[COGKiller4 Ever]

They won't be in the game, but yes.

How do you know??? RAAM is one of the most popular Gears Characters of all time so he will likely be in the game, Skorge and Cyclops were been demanded for Gears 3 but obviously Epic didn't have enough time to add them as they were likely busy and planning Gears of War Judgment, so Epic might be adding Skorge and Cyclops into GOW Judgment instead.

[Locust_Forever]

For The Horde!!!

[lewisnic1]

They won't be in the game, but yes.

You make it sound is if you know all about the game! Nobody from Epic has confirmed any Locust yet to feature in Versus Multiplayer yet, this is just a simple thread asking if you would like to see RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge in Gears of War Judgment Multiplayer. In my opinion I can see all three of them been brought back into Judgment but we will just have to see what Epic has to come out with.

[DaRkNeSs]

60th supporter. Where's my cookie?

[Cyclops 100]

I'm hoping that GOWJ will feature a Campaign based DLC similar to RAAM's Shadow. They could use it as an opportunity to explore RAAM or Skorge's rise to power. I mean these two high-ranking Locust must have done something to earn their fame.

I reckon with RAAM having RAAM's Shadow and being the badass he is, I think he will feature in the campaign somehow. Skorge should be given a story on how he became so high in the Locust ranks after RAAM died in Gears 1.

[lewisnic1]

I reckon with RAAM having RAAM's Shadow and being the badass he is, I think he will feature in the campaign somehow. Skorge should be given a story on how he became so high in the Locust ranks after RAAM died in Gears 1.

Well it would be good if Epic did something like that but I can't see it happening. I think the attention will be on a New Locust Villian that we haven't see before, but to the make the story co-side with the other Gears games its obvious that the new Villian will die in the Campaign. I can see Skorge been a MP Character along with RAAM, however a cameo of RAAM is likely in the Campaign but that would be about it.

[mexkain]

Hell yeah, gears of war without RAAM is not gears of war

[lewisnic1]

Hell yeah, gears of war without RAAM is not gears of war

Well I agree with you there for sure, personally I can't see why RAAM wouldn't be in Judgment, he is one of the most popular characters of all time and we all know RAAM's Shadow was the most popular DLC for Gears 3. So with all that into account I think we will see RAAM in Judgment's MP.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

More characters the better indeed.

Well I agree on that but I just hope in Judgment the Locust Outnumber the COG as on Gears 3 the COG totally outmatched the Locust. In Judgment Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge would be a good mix to throw into the Locust as all three of them would be used alot online as well. :p

[Snowgoon]

Cyclops. <3 How I've missed you chainsawing me in Horde constantly. It's almost too relaxing now, I haven't broken a controller in, like.... forever ago!

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Cyclops. <3 How I've missed you chainsawing me in Horde constantly. It's almost too relaxing now, I haven't broken a controller in, like.... forever ago!

LMAO Cyclops were really hard in Horde 2.0, especially on Insane. I can see them been enemies in Horde on Judgment as well. But lets hope for the best and that they are actually a multiplayer character in Gears Judgment.

[ClearlyBalkan]

RAAM & Cyclops definitely, but wasn't Skorge replacement when RAAM died by the hand of Marcus Fenix on the end of Lightmass Offensive?

[Cyclops 100]

RAAM & Cyclops definitely, but wasn't Skorge replacement when RAAM died by the hand of Marcus Fenix on the end of Lightmass Offensive?

True, but people wanted Skorge for GOW3 so he could be a MP character in GOWJ. I think Epic need to give us characters we want like these three in this game. I hope there is no 'LE' characters again.

[Masteralex09]

I Think that GOWJ should basically be GOW 3 with tweaks in the in game models, so that they can easily port the GOW3 characters to Judgment and only work on new characters.

[STK Knoxy]

Things i want RAAM Skorge Cyclops and NO LE skins they are wastes of good skins we could have had nuff said

[MasterGuard08]

Skorge 100%. Shame he wasn't added into GoW3

[COGKiller4 Ever]

I Think that GOWJ should basically be GOW 3 with tweaks in the in game models, so that they can easily port the GOW3 characters to Judgment and only work on new characters.

Well I think they will maybe port characters over like Kantus, Drone, Hunter, RAAM, Sniper and more obviously then maybe add new characters like Cyclops and Skorge and newer versions of Drones and Grenadier's.


Things i want RAAM Skorge Cyclops and NO LE skins they are wastes of good skins we could have had nuff said

Well I 100% agree with you on that. RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge have to make it into Gears Judgment as by the looks of things (Votes in the Poll) many Gearheads want them in it, and yes there better not be any L:E Skins in Judgment. They didn't prove to popular in Gears 3 so I wouldn't see the point in adding them into the new game.

[ObservationSlave]

Cyclops is the face of the "try-hards" and skorge is the face of the "all-stars". Raam is the face of the 12 year old kids who want to play as the biggest and scariest guy. I honestly don't care what characters are or aren't in the game because there are far more issues that need to be dealt with before characters.

[mmartina]

hope it's not based on gears 1 insane unlocks for some reason i was playing insane act 4 & since i can only play hardcore

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Cyclops is the face of the "try-hards" and skorge is the face of the "all-stars". Raam is the face of the 12 year old kids who want to play as the biggest and scariest guy. I honestly don't care what characters are or aren't in the game because there are far more issues that need to be dealt with before characters.

Actually all your opinions you state are all INCORRECT!
RAAM is Character that is for the Classic Hardcore Fans who have been playing since Gears 1 not some newbies. Skorge and Cyclops are also for Hardcore Players. The ones you need to be picking for 12 year old newbies is Myrrah and Anya. And what they hell is your silly quote "try-hards" and "all-stars"? I think you need to leave this thread as you have sort of mode a fool of yourself.

[lewisnic1]

hope it's not based on gears 1 insane unlocks for some reason i was playing insane act 4 & since i can only play hardcore

Well here is my opinion and what I have heard some people on here discussing how these three could be unlocked in GOW Judgment.

RAAM-Get the "Commando" Achievement (Complete all Gears 1 acts on Insane Difficulty)
Skorge-Unlocked at Level 80 (Example)
Cyclops- Unlocked by getting 1000 Lancer kills in Gears of War Judgment.

[Valafar123]

Well here is my opinion and what I have heard some people on here discussing how these three could be unlocked in GOW Judgment.

RAAM-Get the "Commando" Achievement (Complete all Gears 1 acts on Insane Difficulty)
Skorge-Unlocked at Level 80 (Example)
Cyclops- Unlocked by getting 1000 Lancer kills in Gears of War Judgment.


Would rather have Skorge for Suicide Missionary.

[lewisnic1]

Would rather have Skorge for Suicide Missionary.

Well actually I suppose that makes more sense by having to unlock Skorge by beating Gears 2 on Insane. :D

[Valafar123]

Well actually I suppose that makes more sense by having to unlock Skorge by beating Gears 2 on Insane. :D

Mhm. The name of the achievement is very fitting too.

And we can have Myrrah for That's Just Crazy. Then we wouldn't have 5 Myrrahs on one team.

[lewisnic1]

Mhm. The name of the achievement is very fitting too.

And we can have Myrrah for That's Just Crazy. Then we wouldn't have 5 Myrrahs on one team.

I forgot about Myrrah to be honest and I think she'll be in Judgment I think. She was two overused in Gears 3 but If she was to be in Judgment by having to get "That's Just Crazy Achievement" it would make sense. It would also be cool because then you would have to unlock all three Leaders (RAAM, Myrrah and Skorge) by completing each game they feature in on Insane. PERFECT IDEAS!

[ObservationSlave]

Actually all your opinions you state are all INCORRECT!
RAAM is Character that is for the Classic Hardcore Fans who have been playing since Gears 1 not some newbies. Skorge and Cyclops are also for Hardcore Players. The ones you need to be picking for 12 year old newbies is Myrrah and Anya. And what they hell is your silly quote "try-hards" and "all-stars"? I think you need to leave this thread as you have sort of mode a fool of yourself.

Lol, I was just messing around. No need to be so uptight. Its just video game characters.

On a serious note, cyclops may be for hardcore players, but good players on the other hand...

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Lol, I was just messing around. No need to be so uptight. Its just video game characters.

On a serious note, cyclops may be for hardcore players, but good players on the other hand...

Yes I know you was messing around I was just making a point thats all, you could have at least voted for the characters. Anyhow your right about Cyclops he is for good players also back to my other point RAAM is for the Classic Gears fans who have played since Gears 1.

[KO Victory]

I'd LOVE to see Skorge again.

Not really interested in seeing Cyclops or Raam again.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

I'd LOVE to see Skorge again.

Not really interested in seeing Cyclops or Raam again.

How could you not be interested to see RAAM and Cyclops again? Well Cyclops wasn't in Gears 3 for some strange reason so it would be badass to see him in Judgment's MP due to fans demanding him to be a MP Character in Gears 3 so it only makes sense. As for RAAM he has a hugh repetition so it only makes sense for him to be in Judgment's MP as he is such a popular character, plus he has made such an impact in the Gears series so far.

[LordOfDeath]

Well im pretty sure RAAM is there,but skorge and cyclops? I hope they will be,but i doubt it.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Well im pretty sure RAAM is there,but skorge and cyclops? I hope they will be,but i doubt it.

Well look what Jim said from Epic, here's his statement about Cyclops been in Gears 3.


If adding the Cyclops was as easy as many of you implied, we'd have done it long ago. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I am saying it can't be done without a patch. The work in porting over the AI Cyclops to a playable MP character is significantly more involved than you'd think, in ways that I won't bore you in explaining, suffice to say that its not just as simple as "strap a helmet on a drone and call it done".

Glad there's such a call for this guy though, he has always been one of my favorites as well!

So there was a struggle to get Cyclops into Gears 3 because they required a patch for him, but now with Gears of War Judgment its a fresh new game, empty data and new storage space so with Epic noticing the demand from fans to get Cyclops into Gears 3 well that may have led to Epic reserving a place for Cyclops in Judgment. As for RAAM he's been in all three Gears Games so far so I think in my opinion he will definitely make it into Judgment as he is so popular with the fans. Skorge, he's sort of in the same situation as Cyclops so I think we will be seeing him as well in Judgment as he received high demand like Cyclops.

[LordOfDeath]

Well look what Jim said from Epic, here's his statement about Cyclops been in Gears 3.



So there was a struggle to get Cyclops into Gears 3 because they required a patch for him, but now with Gears of War Judgment its a fresh new game, empty data and new storage space so with Epic noticing the demand from fans to get Cyclops into Gears 3 well that may have led to Epic reserving a place for Cyclops in Judgment. As for RAAM he's been in all three Gears Games so far so I think in my opinion he will definitely make it into Judgment as he is so popular with the fans. Skorge, he's sort of in the same situation as Cyclops so I think we will be seeing him as well in Judgment as he received high demand like Cyclops.

Just for time period alone im sure for RAAM, hell im even sure RAAM is in campaign of GOWJ. There is many fan fav characters that never appeared in gears3 and cyclops was only one with AI problem.That alone raises my doubt against skorge and cyclops,but who knows.

[Zen_of_Anger]

I don't care about Skorge or Cyclops, but RAAM being in the game would make sense considering the time frame.

Agreed, I dont give a rats ass about skorge or cyclops.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Just for time period alone im sure for RAAM, hell im even sure RAAM is in campaign of GOWJ. There is many fan fav characters that never appeared in gears3 and cyclops was only one with AI problem.That alone raises my doubt against skorge and cyclops,but who knows.

Well we know RAAM will probably be in there but the AI problem with Cyclops was only a problem as there was no room to play with on the disc. People were asking for Cyclops after all four DLC packs were released, plus if you think about the disc would have been pretty packed up anyway due extra characters, DLC packs, RAAM's Shadow, there was alot of things added extra to the game so that would have been half of the problem in getting Cyclops into the game.

Trust me if Epic noticed that people wanted Cyclops and even Skorge into Gears 3 so I am sure we will see them in Gears Judgment's Multiplayer as they can easily sort out the AI for both of them as its a new game with new content.

[lewisnic1]

Agreed, I dont give a rats ass about skorge or cyclops.

Jeez ok calm down, we will most likely be seeing all three of these characters anyway so.......

[KO Victory]

we will most likely be seeing all three of these characters anyway so.......

Didn't know you worked for Epic, lol.

[lewisnic1]

Didn't know you worked for Epic, lol.

I never said that I am just basically saying all three characters are very popular especially RAAM so I would like to think they will be in Judgment.

[TAO Devil]

Skorge wasn't debuted until Gears 2. This is set 15 years prior to that. Cyclops and RAAM make sense for timeline.

As for MP? Sure, IDC. I just want my RAAM

[Trugamer97]

Skorge wasn't debuted until Gears 2. This is set 15 years prior to that. Cyclops and RAAM make sense for timeline.

As for MP? Sure, IDC. I just want my RAAM RAAM looks silly in MP since hes so small.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Well we know EPIC aren't going to make RAAM any taller in MP as he has to be the same height as other characters in MP otherwise they would be some issues with hitboxes don't you think?

Yeah Skorge won't be in the Campaign for obvious reasons, however this thread is asking for all three of them to be brought back for multiplayer. I can maybe see RAAM and Cyclops in the Campaign as Cyclops is just a grub and RAAM led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until Lightmass Offensive which was fourteen years later when he died so its possible we could see him making a cameo, but in my opinion I think we will just be seeing RAAM in the MP instead of the Campaign. As for all three of them I hope Epic bring them back, it only makes sense.

[patywagon]

So Gears of War Judgment is set for early 2013 release so would it be a little early to start asking which MP Characters do you think will be making it into Gears Judgment? I think its never to early, infact I wouldn't surprise me to see alot of past MP Characters making it into Judgment, for example how about Skorge, Cyclops and General RAAM?

Skorge and Cyclops didn't make the cut into Gears 3 but I wonder for what reason? Epic knew they were been demanded for but it was never really explained why they didn't make the cut. By the time Epic noticed the demand they were probably already well on planning and making Judgment so what would be the point in Epic adding them to Gears 3 for at example 800 MSP when they could include them in a £45 (Gears Judgment). It would be awesome to see Skorge and Cyclops in GOWJ MP, if they did make it to Multiplayer I bet many people would be thrilled.

RAAM I can see definitely been a MP Character in GOWJ. He was around during the time of Judgment as he led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right through until his death fourteen years later and GOWJ is set three months after E-Day. A brief appearance from RAAM in the Campaign is likely but I think maybe the attention will be set on a Newer Locust Villian that we've never seen before. Seen as RAAM's Shadow DLC for Gears 3 was very popular with the fans, I think we will be definitely see RAAM in GOWJ Multiplayer at least.


Do you want to see these Locust in GOW Judgment Multiplayer?

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/39128/1642185-raam.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/skorge-490.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/Holy649/gears-of-war-2-20080625074324783.jpg


i read dec 31 2013 which is basically 2014. so a year and a half if there is no delays.
has there been an update on this?

[Trugamer97]

i read dec 31 2013 which is basically 2014. so a year and a half if there is no delays.
has there been an update on this? If I recall correctly Dec 31 2013 is just a place holder.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

i read dec 31 2013 which is basically 2014. so a year and a half if there is no delays.
has there been an update on this?

Yeah Dec 31 2012 is just a placeholder, I have heard Epic are releasing Gears Judgment early 2013, so I don't think its ever early to start asking for characters (RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops) :D

[lewisnic1]

RAAM looks silly in MP since hes so small.

Well we know EPIC aren't going to make RAAM any taller in MP as he has to be the same height as other characters in MP otherwise they would be some issues with hitboxes don't you think? So if RAAM makes it into Judgment's multiplayer he will be staying the same height.

[Trugamer97]

Well we know EPIC aren't going to make RAAM any taller in MP as he has to be the same height as other characters in MP otherwise they would be some issues with hitboxes don't you think? So if RAAM makes it into Judgment's multiplayer he will be staying the same height. I'm not saying they should change it i'm just saying he looks silly in MP compared to the SP.

[lewisnic1]

I'm not saying they should change it i'm just saying he looks silly in MP compared to the SP.

Personally I don't mind it but I must admit playing as RAAM as his actual height in RAAM's Shadow was so awesome, I just hope he makes it into Judgment's Multiplayer.

[LambentHammerburst]

Honestly they should just add in all the infantry based Locust.
So all Drone variants including Cyclops/Bolter/Grappler/Troika Gunner ect
Have all the Theron versions (including Palace Guard -- just remove his helmet, shoulder pads are a non issue)
I've always wanted a Boomer too (shrunk down like RAAM). The Savage characters need to return too -- however make them GoW3 Achievement based unlocks. So you need to have of played GoW3 to get them.

[JBIVZ]

I want my mp character to be brumak...

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Honestly they should just add in all the infantry based Locust.
So all Drone variants including Cyclops/Bolter/Grappler/Troika Gunner ect
Have all the Theron versions (including Palace Guard -- just remove his helmet, shoulder pads are a non issue)
I've always wanted a Boomer too (shrunk down like RAAM). The Savage characters need to return too -- however make them GoW3 Achievement based unlocks. So you need to have of played GoW3 to get them.

Well If I am honest I don't think Savage Locust will return as they won't introduced until Gears of War 3. I know that doesn't effect multiplayer but It would be to Gears 3 like if they were to add the Savage as Epic want Judgment to be different from Gears 3. I can see Skorge and Cyclops been added to multiplayer based on the demand they got for GOW 3, The only reason I think Epic didn't add them is likely because by the time they officially noticed the demand they were probably already well on with planning and making Gears Judgment. I would also expect to see fellow favorites like RAAM , A.Carmine, Kim and Hoffman to make a return as well.

[Eridanis Nadir]

Well If I am honest I don't think Savage Locust will return as they won't introduced until Gears of War 3. I know that doesn't effect multiplayer but It would be to Gears 3 like if they were to add the Savage as Epic want Judgment to be different from Gears 3. I can see Skorge and Cyclops been added to multiplayer based on the demand they got for GOW 3, The only reason I think Epic didn't add them is likely because by the time they officially noticed the demand they were probably already well on with planning and making Gears Judgment. I would also expect to see fellow favorites like RAAM , A.Carmine, Kim and Hoffman to make a return as well.

I really remember to see a picture where there are some Savage Drones in GOWJ

http://stickskills.com/omega/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Gow-JUdgement-3-1000x458.jpg

I have a theory of what they are doing in GOWJ, but that's just me, anyway, I'll love to see the Savege Locust, but like LambentHB says wish they going to be unlocked for the achievements in GOW3

[Maaaaaz]

Definitely.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

I really remember to see a picture where there are some Savage Drones in GOWJ

http://stickskills.com/omega/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Gow-JUdgement-3-1000x458.jpg

I have a theory of what they are doing in GOWJ, but that's just me, anyway, I'll love to see the Savege Locust, but like LambentHB says wish they going to be uncloked for the achievements in GOW3

But in the Extended Trailer the Savage look as if they have been replaced by the Original Drones.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/randomgearsstuff/images/1/15/Drones_in_Gears_Judgment.png

[Eridanis Nadir]

But in the Extended Trailer the Savage look as if they have been replaced by the Original Drones.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/randomgearsstuff/images/1/15/Drones_in_Gears_Judgment.png

True, but why not see the past of the Savages Locust? :p

[lewisnic1]

True, but why not see the past of the Savages Locust? :p

Well it would be pretty cool to see some Savage at least in the multiplayer. Well by looking at that picture it just seems to be Savage Drones that are appearing in Gears of War Judgment. Maybe the Savage will just make a brief cameo in the Campaign but personally I am hoping for a cameo from RAAM in the Campaign as Judgment is set three months after E-Day and he led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until the Lightmass Offensive which was Fourteen Years Later when he died. So anything is possible by seeing the Savage in the Campaign.....

[rigemeister]

Honestly they should just add in all the infantry based Locust.

Yes. As well as every COG we've been able to play with thus far. This is the only way to escape the inevitable community wrath that will come up no matter what character you make unplayable that was playable previously.

[Parasidian]

I really remember to see a picture where there are some Savage Drones in GOWJ

[SHOT]http://stickskills.com/omega/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Gow-JUdgement-3-1000x458.jpg[*/SHOT]

I have a theory of what they are doing in GOWJ, but that's just me, anyway, I'll love to see the Savege Locust, but like LambentHB says wish they going to be unlocked for the achievements in GOW3That was a leaked image before the actual trailer was released, its part of a bunch of unrendered screenshots. In the teaser and extended trailer they are regular drones, the probably put used the savage drone character model in place of the drone model for the early build of the trailer.

[lewisnic1]

Yes. As well as every COG we've been able to play with thus far. This is the only way to escape the inevitable community wrath that will come up no matter what character you make unplayable that was playable previously.

I totally agree with you on that. For example look at Skorge and Cyclops in Gears 3, they were been demanded for by the Community but didn't end up playable. I think personally Epic are holding them back for Judgment. As you say I expect some familiar faces to return for both COG and Locust, here is a list of characters I would expect to return: (This doesn't include confirmed ones)


Hoffman
Prescott
COG Gear (Classic)
Anya
Onyx Guard
Valera
A.Carmine
B.Carmine
Kim
Marcus
Dom
Drone
Sniper
Flame Grenadier
RAAM
Grenadier
Grenadier Elite
Cyclops
Kantus
Hunter
Skorge
Spotter
Beast Rider

[LambentHammerburst]

The "Savage" Drones would kinda make sense to add.
Keep in mind they designed their outfits around survival against the sand.
With massive destruction happening areas could be smoked out heavily.
The "Savage" Locust could simply be Drone Elites that survived and in Gears 3 when you saw them - their armor was sun bleached.

Just a little way they could add them in and why they were later not seen again. Only used in massive attacks where debris, smoke and all are heavy.

[JBIVZ]

Anya would not be playable though.

[lewisnic1]

Anya would not be playable though.

Well that depends, multiplayer has no effect on the Campaign for example look at B.Carmine in Gears 3, he didn't feature in the Campaign but was playable in multiplayer. Anya could be made playable but a younger version of some sort (Like Civilian Anya). She was very popular in Gears 3 so I am sure Epic will include her in Judgment's multiplayer.
I am hoping characters like Skorge, Cyclops, RAAM and the Theron's make a return.

[Parasidian]

Well that depends, multiplayer has no effect on the Campaign for example look at B.Carmine in Gears 3, he didn't feature in the Campaign but was playable in multiplayer. Anya could be made playable but a younger version of some sort (Like Civilian Anya). She was very popular in Gears 3 so I am sure Epic will include her in Judgment's multiplayer.
I am hoping characters like Skorge, Cyclops, RAAM and the Theron's make a return.Well Ben was in the prologue. XD

[ValeraPitiesDaFool]

Well Ben was in the prologue. XD
But so was Dispatcher Anya, yet she wasn't in MP!

*Throws her at you*

[lewisnic1]

Well Ben was in the prologue. XD

Well that's the same with Anya in Gears 3. I am not hoping she's playable but I am just saying that if she is a multiplayer character that has no effect on the Campaign. You could look at it a different way what if Skorge was to become playable? (Which is Highly Likely)

[Parasidian]

But so was Dispatcher Anya, yet she wasn't in MP!

*Throws her at you*Ya, but you could actually play as Ben in the prologue.

[lewisnic1]

Ya, but you could actually play as Ben in the prologue.

Well that maybe the case but doesn't effect who becomes playable in multiplayer. Look at RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops they likely won't be in Judgment's Campaign but will likely be in multiplayer.

[Parasidian]

Well that maybe the case but doesn't effect who becomes playable in multiplayer. Look at RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops they likely won't be in Judgment's Campaign but will likely be in multiplayer.I never said they wouldn't, i was just stating Ben was in the campaign. XD The likely hood is that RAAM will most likely be in mp because eyes a fan favourite from the series, and we may even see Skorge and Cyclops. But you never know.

[dude527]

I would like to say that, considering Judgment appears to be on a slightly tweaked version of the Gears 3 engine, I don't see a reason why they couldn't theoretically just "import" all of the Gears 3 skins into Judgment...

[Cyclops 100]

I would like to say that, considering Judgment appears to be on a slightly tweaked version of the Gears 3 engine, I don't see a reason why they couldn't theoretically just "import" all of the Gears 3 skins into Judgment...

Thats what I was thinking. I heard Epic had problems importing characters from Gears 2 to Gears 3 because the gameplay was slightly different with the movement of the characters ect. So with that in mind I see no reason not to import the current skins on Gears 3 like RAAM, Minh, A+B Carmine and then focus on making things like Skorge and Cyclops who haven't already got a MP model for Gears 3.

[Bazinga-A7X]

I'm one of those people in teh camp that hopes that the traditional MP of Geras 3 and GOWJ will combine. In other words GOW3 characters ( including DLC) will be playable in GOWJ< and vice a versa, , as well as weapons skins and maps. I understood that Gears 2 skins had difficulty in Gears 3 because of the engine changes ( ie mouths not moving). I also understand that the maps of GOWJ will likely feature aspects specific to Overun ( ie Ticker only access points, or Scout only access points). It just would be cool if the two could combine in some way so as not to further divide the community of active players.

My son plays a ton of Halo, specifically Reach. Now I'm not a fan of that game, but when I saw that Halo Reach and Halo Anniversary allowed MP to cross, ie skins, stats, and maps, that was impressive.

[LambentHammerburst]

Thats what I was thinking. I heard Epic had problems importing characters from Gears 2 to Gears 3 because the gameplay was slightly different with the movement of the characters ect. So with that in mind I see no reason not to import the current skins on Gears 3 like RAAM, Minh, A+B Carmine and then focus on making things like Skorge and Cyclops who haven't already got a MP model for Gears 3.

It wasn't due to any reasons like you said. It was because it was a entirely different engine.
They didn't say it was hard to port characters over (that's actually fairly easy) -- it's the maps that couldn't. The whole new lighting systems and all. They basically had to re-do everything.

Since GoWJ runs on the same engine - it's even easier. They could port them over in no time - especially if they don't change the skeleton (used for animation).

[DaRkNeSs]

How about Bolter? He needs to be playable in this game xD

[LambentHammerburst]

Ya, but you could actually play as Ben in the prologue.
If you aim at them - they are called CoG Gear.

It's a standard Gear that just shares the same armor as him. It actually isn't him.

[Clone Recon]

Skorge!!!!

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Skorge!!!!

Yeah seeing Skorge in GOWJ MP would certainly be Badass!

In my opinion I think the reason why Epic didn't add both Skorge and Cyclops into Gears 3 was because by the time they really noticed the demand by the community they were likely already planning and making GOWJ. I an Epic admin said that there was difficulties adding Cyclops to the Gears 3 due to the AI however he did state that if adding the Cyclops to Gears 3 was as easy as many of us implied, they would have done it long ago. So that means they could be reserving the Cyclops as place in Judgment along with other popular Locust.

[lewisnic1]

I'm one of those people in teh camp that hopes that the traditional MP of Geras 3 and GOWJ will combine. In other words GOW3 characters ( including DLC) will be playable in GOWJ< and vice a versa, , as well as weapons skins and maps. I understood that Gears 2 skins had difficulty in Gears 3 because of the engine changes ( ie mouths not moving). I also understand that the maps of GOWJ will likely feature aspects specific to Overun ( ie Ticker only access points, or Scout only access points). It just would be cool if the two could combine in some way so as not to further divide the community of active players.

My son plays a ton of Halo, specifically Reach. Now I'm not a fan of that game, but when I saw that Halo Reach and Halo Anniversary allowed MP to cross, ie skins, stats, and maps, that was impressive.

Yeah I can see them porting some characters over but not all of them. In my opinion I don't think they will port Characters over like Superstar Cole, Big Rig Dizzy, Golden Hunter, Golden Miner, LE versions, Savage, Unarmored Marcus etc.

However characters from Gears 3 like Flame Grenadier, Sniper, RAAM, Beast Rider, Hunter, Spotter, Grenadier, Grenadier Elite I can see been ported over also new characters like Skorge, Cyclops and Bolter I can see making it into Judgment's multiplayer.

[Masteralex09]

To make a good MP locust list, Remove Savage Kantus, Remove Savage Kantus LE, Remove Myrrah, and we are perfect.

[HRPac]

I'd love to see these three characters available in MP but I doubt we'll see Skorge. For some reason I get the feeling that Epic is finished with him.

[Valafar123]

To make a good MP locust list, Remove Savage Kantus, Remove Savage Kantus LE, Remove Myrrah, and we are perfect.

SGELE likes to eat shots for some reason too. All the LE skins actually.

Am I the only one who notices this? It happens in private too.

[ValeraPitiesDaFool]

SGELE likes to eat shots for some reason too. All the LE skins actually.

Am I the only one who notices this? It happens in private too.
Doctor Pie says that LE eat shots all the time.

I think all characters have the ability to eat shots, just depends on whose using them.

[Valafar123]

Doctor Pie says that LE eat shots all the time.

I think all characters have the ability to eat shots, just depends on whose using them.

Even in private though? When I do my warm-up against bots in private, the LE players still sponge a lot.

Maybe I'm imagining things. IDK. Something seems fishy though. I don't think it's a hitbox size thing (though the gore rig can be deceptive).

Maybe that's why SKLE is so spongey. Tiny hitbox + LE sponging power. It's a conspiracy I say. :/

[Cyclops 100]

To make a good MP locust list, Remove Savage Kantus, Remove Savage Kantus LE, Remove Myrrah, and we are perfect.

I doubt that we will see the LE skins come back. There was loads of people complaining about having different coloured characters which we have already got, and paid extra money for by pre ordering the game.
I seem to think that some savage wont appear in MP not just for timeline reasons but because I only saw people using the Savage Kantus and Marauder.
Other than that I hope that all Locust characters will return for GOWJ along with new characters that wasn't in GOW3 like Skorge and Cyclops.

[RoboSeal1]

Return those in poll over hunter elite, spotter, miner etc we would rather have cyclops and bolter over these names

[lewisnic1]

Return those in poll over hunter elite, spotter, miner etc we would rather have cyclops and bolter over these names

I agree, I would rather have RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops over the above Locust sure, but I wouldn't mind to see the Miner and Spotter again but I think they should add more important Locust first.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

SGELE likes to eat shots for some reason too. All the LE skins actually.

Am I the only one who notices this? It happens in private too.

I don't want the LE versions in Judgment as they didn't prove very popular in Gears 3 MP. Saying that I didn't see many people using the Savage, Miner, Spotter etc so it leaves you wondering if they will be in GOWJ MP.

I think they should add at least fan favorites to Judgment as by looking at the poll RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops look as if they are Wanted in Judgment.

[YiffYiff Hooray]

While I do support more characters, I rather have the savage locust return in MP, especially the ninja Grenadier; I can't play as any other locust since I got him.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

While I do support more characters, I rather have the savage locust return in MP, especially the ninja Grenadier; I can't play as any other locust since I got him.

Well I like the Savage, but I can't see them been apart of GOW Judgment's multiplayer as it would be to much like Gears of War 3. I can see RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops been added as two are the Locust General's and Cyclops is a foot solider that features in most battles against the COG so I can see them three been in MP however the Savage were introduced in Gears 3 so maybe they should stay Gears 3 Exclusive.

[TJ_MkII]

I WANT THE TROIKA GUNNER / GRAPPLER!

Bring Him to MP too! Sick of not seeing him in! My fave locust and I've never got to use him :(

[Cyclops 100]

I WANT THE TROIKA GUNNER / GRAPPLER!

Bring Him to MP too! Sick of not seeing him in! My fave locust and I've never got to use him :(

Grappler was supposed to be playable for GOW2. http://images.wikia.com/gearsofwar/images/b/bf/HammerheadDrone.jpg
Hopefully he will come with these three for GOWJ

[COGKiller4 Ever]

I WANT THE TROIKA GUNNER / GRAPPLER!

Bring Him to MP too! Sick of not seeing him in! My fave locust and I've never got to use him :(

Well it would actually be awesome to see the Troika Gunner and Grappler in MP, hopefully Epic will make them playable in Judgment as they have been asked by the fans to be playable for years.


Grappler was supposed to be playable for GOW2. http://images.wikia.com/gearsofwar/images/b/bf/HammerheadDrone.jpg
Hopefully he will come with these three for GOWJ
I can see RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops coming, I hoping Grappler and Trokia Gunner become playable but personally I can't see it happening sadly.

[aids0109]

would be cool to add a DLC where skorge is unlocked called something like Skorge's supremacy

[aids0109]

btw savage were in there as they got flooded from their hideout and now live underground, its not as they dont obey the queen as savage corpsers have armour

[COGKiller4 Ever]

btw savage were in there as they got flooded from their hideout and now live underground, its not as they dont obey the queen as savage corpsers have armour

Yeah that happened at the end of Gears 2. Jacinto got flooded and some Locust fled to the Deadlands, those Locust are now known as the Savage. However I doubt they will feature in GOW Judgment.


would be cool to add a DLC where skorge is unlocked called something like Skorge's supremacy
I think Skorge will be in Judgment but I doubt there will be a Campaign like RAAM's Shadow for him. I think he along with Cyclops and RAAM will be a MP Character, also I many other Classic Locust will return (Sniper and Beast Rider).

[Tax]

Queen Myyrah.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Queen Myyrah.

Personally Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge>>>>>>>>>Myrrah.

[ValeraPitiesDaFool]

Queen Myyrah.


Personally Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge>>>>>>>>>Myrrah.
*Hits you both with Classic Queen Myrrah*

[KoS Killshot]

Cyclops FTW!!! Chainsaws all day long!

[lewisnic1]

*Hits you both with Classic Queen Myrrah*

Well I think Myrrah will be in multiplayer as she was a very popular character in Gears 3, however I must agree that Cyclops, Skorge and RAAM would be more suitable characters in Gears of War Judgment multiplayer. But that's just my opinion.

Anyway I thought you wanted Valera in Gears Judgment?

[Trugamer97]

Personally Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge>>>>>>>>>Myrrah. Bolter>Cyclops>Skorge>Troika Gunner>RAAM>>>>Myrrah

[Acid_Knives]

Bolter>Troika Gunner>Skorge>Cyclops>RAAM>>>>Myrrah

More like RAAM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else! Who could possibly dislike someone so cute and cuddly.

And for the record Myrrah's new look blows her "classic" look 10 miles away and then some, put some crimson, black and gold on that dress and then she would look great but as is just no way in hell does it compete with the new Myrrah.

Cyclops would be great, and Skorge put his damn armor back on he looked stupid in Gears 2 without it. His minions looked cooler then he did.

[Cyclops 100]

Cyclops FTW!!! Chainsaws all day long!

I second this!

[lewisnic1]

More like RAAM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else! Who could possibly dislike someone so cute and cuddly.

And for the record Myrrah's new look blows away her "classic" look 10 miles away and then some, put some crimson, black and gold on that dress and then she would look great but as is just no way in hell does it compete with the new Myrrah.

Cyclops would be great, and Skorge put his damn armor back on he looked stupid in Gears 2 without it. His minions looked cooler then he did.

WOW you sound like a RAAM fan just like myself. I have played as RAAM ever since Gears 1 to Present and I just hope he will be in Judgment's multiplayer. Well he is loved by the fans so I can't see why he wouldn't be in.

As for Myrrah I would love to see her Classic look in multiplayer but if she turns out to be playable in Judgment I can see her with her red Armour once again.

Skorge if he's in Judgment I just hope he will have his amour as he looked awesome in the Gears 2 Campaign but in multiplayer it was a slight let down the fact he wasn't amoured.

Cyclops would be awesome as well, infact I am sure Cyclops will make it into multiplayer as EPIC said they wanted to add him into Gears 3 but couldn't due to AI problems and disc space. :p

[Anthony*Carmine]

i want more characters, the more the merrier, but i think that they should add a lot more new characters instead of the classic ones, then again some people like certain characters (sniper ftw) so i am sat with my balls on the fence for this one.

[Judg3mentDrag0n]

I would love RAAM in this. Skorge and Cyclops would also be great additions for those who love 'em

[Cyclops 100]

I would love RAAM in this. Skorge and Cyclops would also be great additions for those who love 'em

Agreed. RAAM will more than likely be in this. Skorge and Cyclops deserve to be in it from the amount of people that demanded for them to be in GOW3 but didn't get them.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

i want more characters, the more the merrier, but i think that they should add a lot more new characters instead of the classic ones, then again some people like certain characters (sniper ftw) so i am sat with my balls on the fence for this one.

Excellent yeah I definitely want RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge however I also want new characters as well. But saying that I want certain characters back from Gears 3 like Spotter, Hunter and Miner so I hope characters like that make it into GOWJ MP. ;)

[Demonz II]

It wouldnt be a bad thing putting them in multiplayer.

[lewisnic1]

It wouldnt be a bad thing putting them in multiplayer.

In my personal opinion I think it would be a brilliant move if Epic decided to put RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge into Gears of War Judgment, also I think it would boost sales if fans wanted them in. Well Judging by the poll 159 people want them in Judgment so I suppose that shows that all three Locust are wanted in the game.

[allcitychessclub13]

They should put in more locusts than just the ones listed. But at least put some extra effort into making them unique.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

They should put in more locusts than just the ones listed. But at least put some extra effort into making them unique.

Well its obvious that there will be more Newer Locust besides Cyclops, Skorge and RAAM but I listed those as they are three of my favorite Locust. However don't get me wrong I would like to see Bolter added as well along with newer type of Drone and Grenadier.

[Cryra]

I miss my Cyclops dearly :(

[Masteralex09]

Miner should definitely return, he is beast.


Well I think Myrrah will be in multiplayer as she was a very popular character in Gears 3

For her Hitboxes.

[lewisnic1]

Miner should definitely return, he is beast.



For her Hitboxes.

Yeah the Miner is a beast and I hope he makes it into the multiplayer, personally I can't see why he wouldn't as all Epic need to do is pick the Gears 3 Characters they want adding into Judgment and transfer there character data as Gears Judgment runs on exactly the same engine as Gears 3.

Locust Characters from Gears 3 that I can see been added in Judgment.

Drone (Obviously)
Spotter
Miner
Grenadier
Grenadier Elite
RAAM
Sniper
Flame Grenadier
Hunter
Theron
Kantus


Then obviously we will be getting new Locust like a newer type of Drone and Grenadier, also hopefully Skorge and Cyclops will finally be making a return and Bolter, Grappler and Troika Gunner should get added as well.

[Valafar123]

Miner should definitely return, he is beast.



For her Hitboxes.

And for that bloody medal.

Very few people genuinely like her.

[Paging Dr. Kantus]

i have had a bad history with all of these characters, RAAM was an unstoppable ten foot kryll shrouded juggernaut spewing bullets by the hundreds, dropping me as soon as i peeped out and his kryll vaporizing my body to a cloud of red dust in a matter of seconds. Skorge seemed to have many clones, as i played many a round of versus and every corner i turned there he was, stalking me, like a PREDATOR!!! Cyclops, oh dear, that roaring in the air, can you hear it, if yes, you are dead, if no, you have died already. The blade of the lancer, how it spins, much like winds of a category five tornado as they suck you into your inevitable death. I VOTE YES!

[COGKiller4 Ever]

i have had a bad history with all of these characters, RAAM was an unstoppable ten foot kryll shrouded juggernaut spewing bullets by the hundreds, dropping me as soon as i peeped out and his kryll vaporizing my body to a cloud of red dust in a matter of seconds. Skorge seemed to have many clones, as i played many a round of versus and every corner i turned there he was, stalking me, like a PREDATOR!!! Cyclops, oh dear, that roaring in the air, can you hear it, if yes, you are dead, if no, you have died already. The blade of the lancer, how it spins, much like winds of a category five tornado as they suck you into your inevitable death. I VOTE YES!

Yeah Nice. ;)

You gotta love RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops. I really hope they make it into Judgment's MP as all three of them are unique in there own different ways. RAAM is just simply an unstoppable killing machine with a badass voice, Skorge he reminds me of Predator with those Dreadlocks and that Chainsaw is so cool. Cyclops I just love them due to there awesome Helmet and for some unknown reason they have an obsession with the Lancer's Chainsaw.........AWESOME! :D

[PureFunkayy]

Yes.

10Yes.

I support this.

Meow, and yes.

[Proniem]

Yes heaps of people would love having them in multiplayer, as you said more characters are better.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Yeah by the looks of things 175 Gearheads know they would be a great addition to Judgment's MP as all three Locust are extremely awesome. :cool:

I mean how could you leave Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge out of Judgment?
Lets hope Epic see this thread and realise fans want them in.

[The Nice Guy]

Cyclops :D that character is awesome. Skorge wears a training bra. RAAM is too incredible for me to comment on.

[Dr doom]

I support this but I would also like the bolter and palace guard to be avalible and the default drones should wear the helmets like in horde and campaign mode instead of just bare faced

[lewisnic1]

Cyclops :D that character is awesome. Skorge wears a training bra. RAAM is too incredible for me to comment on.

Agreed, RAAM is a total Legend, he has been my favorite character since Gears 1. I would love to see all three of these Locust in Gears Judgment. I hope that we finally see the return of Skorge and Cyclops considering they were missed from Gears 3 fro unknown reasons. RAAM I am sure he will be returning to multiplayer, I mean would a Gears of War game be the same without RAAM?

I don't think so.;)

[Doctor Pie 7056]

Raam is gonna be in it no doubt its a tradition and all skorge I doubt it and Cyclops is never coming back

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Raam is gonna be in it no doubt its a tradition and all skorge I doubt it and Cyclops is never coming back

So you suddenly decide who and what characters are coming back? Well check out what Entropy said about Cyclops for Gears 3. He claims that they were difficult to add as there was not a patch, however for Gears Judgment it will be fresh new data and new patches will be available so Cyclops could easily be added. The only problem was for Gears 3 was that all four DLC packs were done and there was hardly any disc space left I presume.

Here's what he said.


Hey guys!

If adding the Cyclops was as easy as many of you implied, we'd have done it long ago. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I am saying it can't be done without a patch. The work in porting over the AI Cyclops to a playable MP character is significantly more involved than you'd think, in ways that I won't bore you in explaining, suffice to say that its not just as simple as "strap a helmet on a drone and call it done".

Glad there's such a call for this guy though, he has always been one of my favorites as well!

[upsmadman]

The more the better. Ive been beasting kim and grenadier since day 1. Dont fail me epic.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

The more the better. Ive been beasting kim and grenadier since day 1. Dont fail me epic.

Well I am 99% sure Grenadier will be a MP Character, as for Kim I am sure he will be in the game along with RAAM. Hopefully Skorge and Cyclops will be in there as well considering they didn't make it into Gears 3.

[lewisnic1]

Well I am 99% sure Grenadier will be a MP Character, as for Kim I am sure he will be in the game along with RAAM. Hopefully Skorge and Cyclops will be in there as well considering they didn't make it into Gears 3.

I think Grenadier, Grenadier Elite and the Locust Hunter will be in multiplayer as we have pictures of them shown in the Sticky Thread. Its only a matter of time before more and more characters start getting announced to feature in the game.

I am waiting for the confirmation on RAAM been in Gears of War Judgment. I mean it without't be Gears of War without General RAAM. ;)

[SneaKerhead2009]

With the already high demand for Skorge and Cyclops in Gears 3, they have no choice but to add them in Judgement. RAAM is virtually guaranteed. I support this 100%.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

With the already high demand for Skorge and Cyclops in Gears 3, they have no choice but to add them in Judgement. RAAM is virtually guaranteed. I support this 100%.

Hey Thanks for the Support and I agree I am sure Epic can't let the demand for Skorge and Cyclops slip by them, they for sure need to be added into Judgment to make up for the loss in Gears 3. As for RAAM like you said he's guaranteed as he's made his mark among the Gears Universe since Gears 1.

[xBursst]

I just want Skorge!

[Rainbow Dash]

why don't they just add all the characters from Gears 3 and add the characters which we asked for as a community also adding/making new ones of course

[Cyclops 100]

why don't they just add all the characters from Gears 3 and add the characters which we asked for as a community also adding/making new ones of course

Im happy with that just as long as they dont add stupid ones like the 'LE' characters. RAAM is almost guaranteed. As for Skorge and Cyclops, I reckon they have a great chance because of the demand they had for GOW3. I bet they did not add them two in GOW 3 because they probably saved them for GOWJ.

[Earth2036]

Bolter needs to be in it too, can't forget him.

[BFW Wolf]

i definitely agree with this

[COGKiller4 Ever]

why don't they just add all the characters from Gears 3 and add the characters which we asked for as a community also adding/making new ones of course

Well It would be pointless to add the Savage, LE Skins, Commando Dom, Golden Hunter, Golden Miner etc as they were really Gears 3 Exclusive. However the LE Skins didn't prove popular with the fans so that would be a waste of time in adding them to Judgment.

Anyway like you said New Characters will come and various past characters will also make a comeback however the Return of Cyclops, RAAM and Skorge would be a good move as by looking at the poll they seem to be wanted by the Community. So fingers crossed. ;)

[The LONE WONDERER]

NO LE SKINS!!! and add skorge the fact that he and cyclops arent in GOW3 is a joke.

[lewisnic1]

NO LE SKINS!!! and add skorge the fact that he and cyclops arent in GOW3 is a joke.

Your thinking just like I was, I thought it was rather pathetic that Epic didn't put Skorge and Cyclops into GoW3 however they could put them in Gears Judgment and make fans happy that way. Also how can they be a Gears of War game without RAAM? He's for sure got to be in there.

[Doctor Pie 7056]

No cyclops -_-

[BlueDodger]

Why does everyone say RAAM is slow (I read the beginning pages of the thread)

he just uses two speeds: walk and kill



RAAM is a definite GoWJ NP character, I don't care if it "hasn't been confirmed" Well I'm confirming now! :p

Skorge is a maybe, but I wouldn't care if he made it in or not.

Cyclops, sure I guess? (Spotter rules!)

[Phenomenal]

Skorge!

I really hope they bring him back, every DLC during gers 3 i was hoping would bring back this epic leader of the kantus. Only to be disappointed every time. :(

[DEATHVOID]

of course comeon they gotta bring back raam and skorge for sure come on epic

[Spitfire MLG]

I want new characters!

[Regi]

Sniper with the goggles glow.

[Terra D Serph]

Skorge!

I really hope they bring him back, every DLC during gers 3 i was hoping would bring back this epic leader of the kantus. Only to be disappointed every time. :(

They added RAAM in because he fit with the campaign DLC.

I don't see how Skorge could even fit with the timeline of Gears Judgement. He was neither in power or gaining power during the time. He literally gained status right after he summoned and controlled the super-worm. Before that, he was just a regular ol' Kantus.


So if you want a Skorge that fits with the timeline(or fits with a theme they place in the multiplayer DLC/campaign DLC), pick a Kantus, any Kantus. Assume he's Skorge.

[Trugamer97]

I'm probably one of the only few who prefer Skorge over RAAM. -.-

[Cyclops 100]

They added RAAM in because he fit with the campaign DLC.

I don't see how Skorge could even fit with the timeline of Gears Judgement. He was neither in power or gaining power during the time. He literally gained status right after he summoned and controlled the super-worm. Before that, he was just a regular ol' Kantus.


So if you want a Skorge that fits with the timeline(or fits with a theme they place in the multiplayer DLC/campaign DLC), pick a Kantus, any Kantus. Assume he's Skorge.

Skorge will only be in MP if anything. I doubt he will be in the campaign. Look at Big Rig Dizzy in GOW3 and A and B Carmine. They made it in GOW 3 and had nothing to do with the timeline of GOW3 at all, they were popular characters just like Skorge. So I think there is a high chance he will be in it.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Why does everyone say RAAM is slow (I read the beginning pages of the thread)

he just uses two speeds: walk and kill



RAAM is a definite GoWJ NP character, I don't care if it "hasn't been confirmed" Well I'm confirming now! :p

Skorge is a maybe, but I wouldn't care if he made it in or not.

Cyclops, sure I guess? (Spotter rules!)


Well on the one hand Cyclops was been demanded by the community to feature in Gears 3 MP so adding him to Judgment makes a whole lot of sense.
Plus I miss that glowing eye. :p

Also I love your comment about RAAM. ;)
I think its safe to say that he'll be added into MP, I am not saying he will definitely, but I would be shocked if he wasn't included in Judgment as fans love him so it makes sense to throw him in there.

Skorge I really hope he gets added as he was been demanded for Gears 3 along with Cyclops so it would make a whole lot of sense to put Skorge in GoWJ MP.

[Original]

Why NOT have more characters. I mean, the more variety the better right? In GOW 3 it seems to me that most people used Myrrah, Kantus (both),and the Goldies.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Why NOT have more characters. I mean, the more variety the better right? In GOW 3 it seems to me that most people used Myrrah, Kantus (both),and the Goldies.

Well I think people used Myrrah a lot in Gears 3 was because her hitbox was sort of broken. But on the other hand I think she may make it into Gears Judgment multiplayer. The Golden Characters I think should remain Exclusive Characters to Gears 3.

As for the thread poll I hope to see RAAM, Skorge and Cyclops back into multiplayer as Judgment looks awesome and they would fit in nicely.

[NFI]

In my opinion I highly doubt you see Raam in Judgement. At all. He maybe referenced but I bet thats it. Skorge was a nobody at that point so you can rule him out of the campaign.

[TAO Devil]

In my opinion I highly doubt you see Raam in Judgement. At all. He maybe referenced but I bet thats it. Skorge was a nobody at that point so you can rule him out of the campaign.

Don't say that! I NEED RAAM!

[COGKiller4 Ever]

In my opinion I highly doubt you see Raam in Judgement. At all. He maybe referenced but I bet thats it. Skorge was a nobody at that point so you can rule him out of the campaign.

How do you know? He led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until the Lightmass Offensive which was fourteen years later when he was killed and Judgment is set three months after E-Day.

Anyway the title is regarding Multiplayer. Everyone loves RAAM like what Cliff Bleszinski said a while ago. So I would expect to see him.

[NFI]

How do you know? He led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until the Lightmass Offensive which was fourteen years later when he was killed and Judgment is set three months after E-Day.

Did you happen to notice the point that says in my opinion? Or did you immediately get defensive because I disagree. Besides it doesn't matter when he did what, Marcus was fighting in the war when Judgment occurs, it doesn't mean hell be in the game. Coud he be? Yes. So could the tooth fairy, I just don't expect to see either.

IN MY OPINION in trying to establish a new story and a new "big bad", they won't want to bring back ones from prior games which will immediately over shadow them. I don't think we will see much outside of a mention or brief cameo.


Also, I know this threads about mp, but I was responding to the few posts about campaign and giving my two cents.

[Jim Tuna]

How do you know? He led the Locust from the very beginning of E-Day right until the Lightmass Offensive which was fourteen years later when he was killed and Judgment is set three months after E-Day.

Anyway the title is regarding Multiplayer. Everyone loves RAAM like what Cliff Bleszinski said a while ago. So I would expect to see him.

There is no certainty though. No matter what, RAAM would not be able to be killed. Plus they are focusing on this new "big bad" right now. I'm sure the focus will be directed at the new locust.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Did you happen to notice the point that says in my opinion? Or did you immediately get defensive because I disagree. Besides it doesn't matter when he did what, Marcus was fighting in the war when Judgment occurs, it doesn't mean hell be in the game. Coud he be? Yes. So could the tooth fairy, I just don't expect to see either.

IN MY OPINION in trying to establish a new story and a new "big bad", they won't want to bring back ones from prior games which will immediately over shadow them. I don't think we will see much outside of a mention or brief cameo.


Also, I know this threads about mp, but I was responding to the few posts about campaign and giving my two cents.

Well if your referring to the Campaign I highly doubt RAAM will feature unless its a Cameo of some sort. I know the attention will be on a New Locust Enemy (who will obviously get killed) but with RAAM leading the Locust at the time a Brief Appearance of some sort would be cool.

As for multiplayer I would be very surprised if RAAM wasn't 't a Multiplayer character considering many fans play as him all the time.

[NFI]

Well if your referring to the Campaign I highly doubt RAAM will feature unless its a Cameo of some sort. I know the attention will be on a New Locust Enemy (who will obviously get killed) but with RAAM leading the Locust at the time a Brief Appearance of some sort would be cool.

As for multiplayer I can't see why RAAM wouldn't be a Multiplayer character considering many fans play as him in all three Gears Games.

Lots of players used Cyclops too, and Skorge. They weren't in Gears 3, and RAAM only appeared due to the DLC for a campaign. His popularity is no guarantee we will see him.

[TAO Devil]

Lots of players used Cyclops too, and Skorge. They weren't in Gears 3, and RAAM only appeared due to the DLC for a campaign. His popularity is no guarantee we will see him.
Seriously dude. Don't say that. I love RAAM.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Lots of players used Cyclops too, and Skorge. They weren't in Gears 3, and RAAM only appeared due to the DLC for a campaign. His popularity is no guarantee we will see him.

Well in my opinion by the time Epic really noticed the demand for Skorge and Cyclops they were probably already planning and making Judgment. So why would Epic include them to Gears 3 for say 800 MSP when they could include them in Gears Judgment for a price at lets say £45, its a better profit for them if they were to include them in the new installment of Gears.

Cliff Bleszinski said a while ago that "Everyone Loves RAAM" so Epic know that the Community love him so they created RAAM's Shadow for Gears 3. I wouldn't rule out a return of RAAM in Judgment's multiplayer.

[NFI]

Well in my opinion by the time Epic really noticed the demand for Skorge and Cyclops they were probably already planning and making Judgment.

Sorry but not the case. They weren't holding them back for Judgment. EPIC knew the demand was high as far back as release date because Entropy discussed here on the forums they knew demand was high for Cyclops.


So why would Epic include them to Gears 3 for say 800 MSP when they could include them in Gears Judgment for a price at lets say £45, its a better profit for them if they were to include them in the new installment of Gears.

From a business standpoint why not? If they are included in judgment you aren't paying or them. Financially ppl would buy them as DLC twice. So it makes sense to sell Gears 3, sell them as DLC, release Judgment,more DLC. .


Cliff Bleszinski said a while ago that "Everyone Loves RAAM" so Epic know that the Community love him so they created RAAM's Shadow for Gears 3. I wouldn't rule out a return of RAAM in Judgment's multiplayer.

I wouldn't rule it out, but I won't anticipate it either. Every skin in Gears 3 is a character, or a variation of a character, in the game or gears 3 related DLC. But as I said, it's possible. But it's at this point unlikely given the past trend.

Hopefully they are there for the die hard Raam Heads like Tao here. My point is simply to temper your optimism.



Seriously dude. Don't say that. I love RAAM.

You

[DEATHVOID]

sure why not

[MasterShake]

I don't understand the hype about cyclops but the more the better!!

[Cyclops 100]

I don't understand the hype about cyclops but the more the better!!

Cyclops are the awesome Drone in GOW! Just look at their helmet... the helmet alone is awesome! :D

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Sorry but not the case. They weren't holding them back for Judgment. EPIC knew the demand was high as far back as release date because Entropy discussed here on the forums they knew demand was high for Cyclops

Actually Entropy said they if adding the Cyclops was easy they would have done it long ago. He said to add Cyclops they needed a patch but they obviously couldn't due to limited disc space however Judgment is fresh new game new open data so they could quite easily add Cyclops.



I wouldn't rule it out, but I won't anticipate it either. Every skin in Gears 3 is a character, or a variation of a character, in the game or gears 3 related DLC. But as I said, it's possible. But it's at this point unlikely given the past trend.


Actually Big Rig Dizzy, LE Skins, Superstar Cole, Commando Dom, Mechanic Baird etc all have no relation to the Gears 3 whatsoever, They were just basically thrown in there to make a little money. So your telling me if they can add the LE Skins, Superstar Cole and others to Gears 3 when they have no impact on the Campaign at all, they can't add RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge that have featured in past Gears Games into Judgment?

[AndJusticeForMe]

I like the idea of beating their respective game on insane. I could easily imagine RAAM and Cyclops being in MP but..Skorge? Maybe.

[lewisnic1]

I like the idea of beating their respective game on insane. I could easily imagine RAAM and Cyclops being in MP but..Skorge? Maybe.

Here is a good idea like you said:

To Unlock RAAM in Judgment -Get the "Commando" Achievement by Completing all acts on Insane on Gears of War 1.

To Unlock Skorge in Judgment -Get the "Suicide Missionary" Achievement by Completing all acts on Insane on Gears of War 2.

To Unlock Cyclops in Judgment - Get 2000 Lancer Kills in Judgment.

[Bizkitdoh]

Want helmet-less Theron please. And no. RAAM is not a helmetless Theron. At all.

[SneaKerhead2009]

Wouldn't RAAM have to appear anyways? I mean wasn't he leading the Horde at this time?

[lewisnic1]

Wouldn't RAAM have to appear anyways? I mean wasn't he leading the Horde at this time?

Yes he's leading the Locust at the time of Judgment as he has been doing ever since the beginning of E-Day however despite this I think the attention will be on a New Locust Enemy so I would just if anything expect RAAM to be in multiplayer. ;)

RAAM may make a cameo of some sort in the Campaign but I think that will be about it if he was to feature.

[Sir Biggumz]

100% support this :D

[Gnashty NaS]

I want to see absolutely every character they can put in the game, in the game.
And mostly, EVERY COLE SKIN THEY CAN THINK OF! THIS ONE IS ABOUT HIM MORE THAN EVER SO LET'S SHOOT FOR 15 COLE SKINS! :p

[allcitychessclub13]

I want to see absolutely every character they can put in the game, in the game.
And mostly, EVERY COLE SKIN THEY CAN THINK OF! THIS ONE IS ABOUT HIM MORE THAN EVER SO LET'S SHOOT FOR 15 COLE SKINS! :p

No more cole skins they were everywhere in this game.

[xKiLL ZoNEx]

I'd like to see their appearance in GoW: Judgment.

[II TH4 K1NG II]

I would like to see RAAM, dont know about skorge though because the only reason he was made general in gears 2 was his ability to control the riftworm so... idk if he'll be there, but the more the merrier

[the Welsh Guy]

i hope skorge is gonna be hes the best

[antbirch]

If EPIC would be bothered we still could have Skorge in GOW3 ... shame they cbf :\

[RoboSeal1]

I want those three, i dont want myrrah annoying azz running around screaming RE-ARM ME!

[lewisnic1]

I would like to see RAAM, dont know about skorge though because the only reason he was made general in gears 2 was his ability to control the riftworm so... idk if he'll be there, but the more the merrier

Well I doubt we will see Skorge in the Campaign but I wouldn't rule out Skorge been in Multiplayer.

RAAM may make a brief appearance in the Campaign considering he's leading the Horde around the time of Judgment but then again I would just expect RAAM just to be in multiplayer as I can see the attention been centered around a New Locust Enemy but a Cameo would make a whole lot of sense as we all know Everyone loves RAAM! :p

As for Cyclops they are just regular Grubs but on the other hand they are one of the most popular Locust so I would expect to see the Cyclops back into Gears Judgment multiplayer as well.

[GOWLocust4]

Yes, RAAM has been in every mp and no RAAM wouldn't feel the same, plus he is my favorite character lol.

[LONEWOLF6004]

Yes , to all 3 !

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Yes, RAAM has been in every mp and no RAAM wouldn't feel the same, plus he is my favorite character lol.

No your right it wouldn't be the same without RAAM so I hope that Epic include him in the fourth game. Also I just hope Epic don't miss out on the return of Skorge and Cyclops considering everyone wanted them for Gears 3.

[GOWLocust4]

Also I hope Zeta squad gets put in mp. I understand Epic can't have a thousand mp characters to choose from but Judgement really isn't adding that many new characters. I would rather Epic put in atleast one model of every known Cog instead of leaving some out for like 3 Marcus models and 4 Cole models, etc.

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Also I hope Zeta squad gets put in mp. I understand Epic can't have a thousand mp characters to choose from but Judgement really isn't adding that many new characters. I would rather Epic put in atleast one model of every known Cog instead of leaving some out for like 3 Marcus models and 4 Cole models, etc.

I am sure they will be a variety of Old Characters to choose from. Don't get me wrong Epic will be adding New Characters to Judgment but alot of past characters will likely be added to the game for example A.Carmine, Marcus, RAAM, Grenadier Elite, and Sniper.

[LONEWOLF6004]

I would be surprised if kim was not in there also.

[GOWLocust4]

I would be surprised if kim was not in there also.

Kim,Barrack,Valera,Tai, they should all be put in. Judgment is taking place when every member of Zeta squad is alive. A cameo of them in the campaign would be awesome but idk about that, mp they should be in that for sure though.

[Victimizer]

I want those three, i dont want myrrah annoying azz running around screaming RE-ARM ME!

Indeed. She absolutely ruined the character selection of the Locust in my opinion.

OT: Yes I would like them all in Judgment, accompanied by the Bolter and Troika Gunner. :)

[COGKiller4 Ever]

Indeed. She absolutely ruined the character selection of the Locust in my opinion.

OT: Yes I would like them all in Judgment, accompanied by the Bolter and Troika Gunner. :)

Myrrah was very annoying but I wouldn't rule her out been in Judgment also I wouldn't mind seeing Bolter and Troika Gunner.

As for RAAM, Cyclops and Skorge yeah I really want them in Gears of War Judgment and by the looks of the Poll 200+ GearHeads want them in as well. :D

[SneaKerhead2009]

Myrrah was very annoying but I wouldn't rule her out been in Judgment also I wouldn't mind seeing Bolter and Troika Gunner.She's gonna have to at least appear in the game. She has been in all of them games so far. Her voice was heard at the end of Gears 1 as well as between matches/rounds for the Locust, and made a actual appearance in 2 and 3.

[Yamato Kakashi]

Cyclops just drone with helmet, kinda like a beast rider and what's the difference between skorge and a normal Kantus?

[Devious Sektor]

Cyclops just drone with helmet, kinda like a beast rider and what's the difference between skorge and a normal Kantus?
Skorge has awesome spiked armor and dreadlocks.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111217202625/gearsofwar/images/0/08/Gears-of-war-2-skorge.jpg

[GOWLocust4]

Skorge has awesome spiked armor and dreadlocks.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111217202625/gearsofwar/images/0/08/Gears-of-war-2-skorge.jpg

Sad thing though in Gears 2 mp they took off his awesome spike armor. Hopefully that changes though.

[lewisnic1]

She's gonna have to at least appear in the game. She has been in all of them games so far. Her voice was heard at the end of Gears 1 as well as between matches/rounds for the Locust, and made a actual appearance in 2 and 3.

You will probably hear her voice in the Campaign again but then again we may see a Classic Version of her in Multiplayer who actually knows. You could say the same about RAAM, he was around during the time of Judgment infact he has been leading the Locust even since Emergence Day and as Judgment is set three months after E-Day a Brief appearance of RAAM may happen in the Campaign.

Other than that I would expect to see Myrrah and RAAM in Multiplayer at least.


Cyclops just drone with helmet, kinda like a beast rider and what's the difference between skorge and a normal Kantus?

In my opinion Cyclops are far more awesome than Beast Rider, infact Cyclops are by far the most aggressive Drone and both of there Helmets are different any how. Skorge is alot different compared to Kantus as Skorge wears his Dreadlocks Wig and has Spiked Amour and the Kantus don't. Also I noticed that Skorge has slightly darker skin compared to them as well.

[Yamato Kakashi]

Skorge has awesome spiked armor and dreadlocks.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111217202625/gearsofwar/images/0/08/Gears-of-war-2-skorge.jpg

You got me at Dreadlocks!

[Cyclops 100]

Cyclops just drone with helmet, kinda like a beast rider and what's the difference between skorge and a normal Kantus?

Cyclops are by far the best Done! Most Locusts are Drones with helmets or different armor anyway.

[TsuFlow]

Onyx cyclops. Black armor. Wow, and Skorge is BAD A$$.

[MxcnPro12]

Yes, Yes, and Yes.. :3

Miss these characters soo much..