What's HAPPENED?!?!

[TJ_MkII]

Things I've learned lately:

- Hammerburst is useless once again. (inb4 LERN 2 PLAY).
- Sawed-Off is PATHETIC. Might as well be throwing daisies at people. (inb4 LOL GEARS 1 VET LOL GOOD THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE LOL)
- Gnasher pre-active'ers make up a good 50% of the people I've played this week. Regular Gnasher by comparison is useless.
- Depths is an awful map for CTL. (Not really relevant, BUT TWO ROUNDS OF 15 MINUTES. GOD DAMN).
- Hammerburst apparently has no active bonus!? WHY!?

FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS. WHAT IS THIS?! Is my mind playing tricks on me or have these changes actually happened?!?!

[Gnashes]

Your mind is playing tricks on you. There haven't been any weapon changes in months.

[Maaaaaz]

Waitt, has HB lost it's active damage? Seen several people stating that recently, which at first I thought weren't serious...

[Bring the pain]

Your mind is playing tricks on you. There haven't been any weapon changes in months.

That's not true! They secretly buffed the retro and don't forget the removal of stopping power

[TAO Devil]

That's not true! They secretly buffed the retro and don't forget the removal of stopping power
retro hasn't been buffed in months either.

The stopping power was a test, and a by-product of that testing was Zeta.

[Bring the pain]

Waitt, has HB lost it's active damage? Seen several people stating that recently, which at first I thought weren't serious...

It seems like it takes Alot more work now to get a
Kill with it but I can't say if it's true or just bad connections

[NFI]

That's not true! They secretly buffed the retro and don't forget the removal of stopping power

Neither is this.

[Zubi Fett]

Your mind is playing tricks on you. There haven't been any weapon changes in months.

Thats pretty obvious with one of his sentences.

[Bring the pain]

Neither is this.

There is no stopping power for the past week now for me in all game modes and im not making that up others in game have noticed it too you actually can actually run thru a retro user without being stopped dead In your tracks

The retro idk what ppl say that weapon got a boost a month ago and insta downed you and I seen huge amount of threads of ppl complaining bout this.. That being said I think it recently got a slight nerf or it's just balanced without the stopping power

[DizzyRules]

I think you're confused. I prefer the Hammerburst and it's very efficient AND the active is insane. Gnasher without an active works perfect. I think your mind is playing tricks on you.

[Bring the pain]

retro hasn't been buffed in months either.

The stopping power was a test, and a by-product of that testing was Zeta.

Past week across all games modes for me has been no stopping power and ppl in game have noticed it too

[Gnashes]

There is no stopping power for the past week now for me in all game modes and im not making that up others in game have noticed it too you actually can actually run thru a retro user without being stopped dead In your tracks

The retro idk what ppl say that weapon got a boost a month ago and insta downed you and I seen huge amount of threads of ppl complaining bout this.. That being said I think it recently got a slight nerf or it's just balanced without the stopping power

https://twitter.com/#!/PeteNub/statuses/182504496377761793

There IS still stopping power, I play on a daily basis and I use the Retro about 1/3 of the time.

The buff was more than a month ago, because even IF it was when all of the complaints popped up, that was pre-Fenix Rising.

[DizzyRules]

There is no stopping power for the past week now for me in all game modes and im not making that up others in game have noticed it too you actually can actually run thru a retro user without being stopped dead In your tracks

The retro idk what ppl say that weapon got a boost a month ago and insta downed you and I seen huge amount of threads of ppl complaining bout this.. That being said I think it recently got a slight nerf or it's just balanced without the stopping powersorry guy, but you must be playing a different game than me.

[TAO Devil]

There is no stopping power for the past week now for me in all game modes and im not making that up others in game have noticed it too you actually can actually run thru a retro user without being stopped dead In your tracks

The retro idk what ppl say that weapon got a boost a month ago and insta downed you and I seen huge amount of threads of ppl complaining bout this.. That being said I think it recently got a slight nerf or it's just balanced without the stopping power


Past week across all games modes for me has been no stopping power and ppl in game have noticed it too
1) You are playing ZETA then.

2) It did NOT get a boost a month ago. They are wrong.

[Maaaaaz]

sorry guy, but you must be playing a different game than me.

I think you can't tell the retro has SP because it downs you so fast there isn't any time to slow down. You just automatically die.

[Xx Dantes Rage]

I think you can't tell the retro has SP because it downs you so fast there isn't any time to slow down. You just automatically die.

Pretty much this.^^^

[Bring the pain]

https://twitter.com/#!/PeteNub/statuses/182504496377761793

There IS still stopping power, I play on a daily basis and I use the Retro about 1/3 of the time.

The buff was more than a month ago, because even IF it was when all of the complaints popped up, that was pre-Fenix Rising.


The only thing can think of is that they are secretly trying out no stopping power in certain regions cuz I know I'm not crazy and have. I reason to lie about it

I wish I owned a cap card to prove it but seems silly to go buy one just for this... Ppl retro charge me I shoot them with the lancer dead in and they power thru it

But same goes for me with the gnasher I can power thru a retro and gib him

The game IMO has a better flow so I hope it stays this way

[Bring the pain]

1) You are playing ZETA then.

2) It did NOT get a boost a month ago. They are wrong.

I'm sorry I'm not mentaly handi capped I know what I'm playing

I don't play zeta or alpha cuz I love my hammy also when I'm dying from retro and sawed offs I'm sure there not in Zeta

[TAO Devil]

I'm sorry I'm not mentaly handi capped I know what I'm playing

I don't play zeta or alpha cuz I love my hammy also when I'm dying from retro and sawed offs I'm sure there not in Zeta
They are not in Zeta. however, that is the only playlist where stopping power is removed.

[oXFiercePlayXo]

Only problems I have seen is people eating up close Gnasher shot's they take 3 or 4 shots to put people down especially when you shoot someone in the back. But at a medium range it takes 1 or 2 shots to knock them down. Plus the Retro Lancer seems more powerfull. You get touched with that weapon their is no avoiding it even when you try wallbounce. Plus Retro can beat a Lancer and I have seen it beat Hammerburst's from long range. Also Epic need's to fix the hit detection on the Gnasher in up close situations and reduce the range on the Gnasher just abit. Basically what I am saying is I would like to see the Gnasher like the Gears 1 Gnasher Shotgun. Because this is what the Gears 3 Gnasher use to be like before the DLC came in then it changed. I just do not understand why the Gnasher would be more effective from a distance then up close!

[Bring the pain]

They are not in Zeta. however, that is the only playlist where stopping power is removed.

Then what I think is there trying out no stopping power again but only in my region!

That's the only thing that makes sense to me if other are saying there still playing with stopping power

I know I'm also on server lately cuz when the room empties there no host migration message

[TAO Devil]

Then what I think is there trying out no stopping power again but only in my region!

That's the only thing that makes sense to me if other are saying there still playing with stopping power

I know I'm also on server lately cuz when the room empties there no host migration message
Only in your region.....


and the purpose of that would be......?

[Bring the pain]

Only in your region.....


and the purpose of that would be......?

To test without affecting the whole community idk

I wish I owned a cap card so you would believe me! I have no reason to lie about and I wouldn't get the point of lying what would it prove?
I play this game hours a day since day 1 even the beta so I know when the game isn't playing the same

[TAO Devil]

To test without affecting the whole community idk

I wish I owned a cap card so you would believe me! I have no reason to lie about and I wouldn't get the point of lying what would it prove?
I play this game hours a day since day 1 even the beta so I know when the game isn't playing the same
as do I, and the fact that Zeta is the only playlist where stopping power doesn't affect me leads me to believe your claims are untrue.

I am not saying you are lying, I am saying your views may have been hindered by other variables, such as lag.

Removal of stopping power for testing purposes would be across the entire network. Testing 20,000 people compared to a couple hundred thousand makes no sense.

[DizzyRules]

as do I, and the fact that Zeta is the only playlist where stopping power doesn't affect me leads me to believe your claims are untrue.

I am not saying you are lying, I am saying your views may have been hindered by other variables, such as lag.

Removal of stopping power for testing purposes would be across the entire network. Testing 20,000 people compared to a couple hundred thousand makes no sense.Now this makes sense.

[Bring the pain]

as do I, and the fact that Zeta is the only playlist where stopping power doesn't affect me leads me to believe your claims are untrue.

I am not saying you are lying, I am saying your views may have been hindered by other variables, such as lag.

Removal of stopping power for testing purposes would be across the entire network. Testing 20,000 people compared to a couple hundred thousand makes no sense.

I would say lag but that can't be the case for the past week and a bit

My down is 30 up is 10 with less than 20 ping

To be honest my frie d pointed it out when I was being rushed at with a gnasher and I was trying to put him down with the hammy and he powered thru it

The next day I noticed not being stuck as soon as being shot with the retro like b4 and I could counter it

Anyways I dont wanna turn this into an arguements this is may experiences right now tho

[TAO Devil]

I would say lag but that can't be the case for the past week and a bit

My down is 30 up is 10 with less than 20 ping

To be honest my frie d pointed it out when I was being rushed at with a gnasher and I was trying to put him down with the hammy and he powered thru it

The next day I noticed not being stuck as soon as being shot with the retro like b4 and I could counter it

Anyways I dont wanna turn this into an arguements this is may experiences right now tho
The hammerburst has very little stopping power. The damage done per bullet is what downs them before they get close, not the stopping power.

Continuous fire is necessary to make any impact.

[Bring the pain]

The hammerburst has very little stopping power. The damage done per bullet is what downs them before they get close, not the stopping power.

Continuous fire is necessary to make any impact.

Continuous fire is no prob for me I have a fast trig finger

But I even noticed with the lancer with someone running straight ap me with the retro without slowing down

[Lambent Venom]

I would say lag but that can't be the case for the past week and a bit

My down is 30 up is 10 with less than 20 ping

To be honest my frie d pointed it out when I was being rushed at with a gnasher and I was trying to put him down with the hammy and he powered thru it

The next day I noticed not being stuck as soon as being shot with the retro like b4 and I could counter it

Anyways I dont wanna turn this into an arguements this is may experiences right now tho
Your experiences aren't being doubted, but like Tao pointed out, you may not be considering all variables.

Even with ping like that you could still experience lag, especially when not on a server.

[Bring the pain]

Your experiences aren't being doubted, but like Tao pointed out, you may not be considering all variables.

Even with ping like that you could still experience lag, especially when not on a server.

It could be.. Whatever it is im enjoying it much more

[TJ_MkII]

Maybe you guys are right, but there's something about the hammerburst lately that's really changed it...