Quick thought on Quick Match Un-Even Team problems

[NicodemusX0]

I typically run with another player... and have realized that quick match has a hard time distributing teams.

Maybe I am wrong, but It seems the problem may be based on a theory I have that they may calculate "parties" as a single player/entity... when starting a match.


I kinda did math as players joined and left as I played last night, and it seemed to be the problem.

[JuggaloJ4y]

I agree, I was with a team that didn't re-up and the other team with looked like a Christmas tree with red and blue lots lol. Uneven, but love the challenge.

[NicodemusX0]

I agree, I was with a team that didn't re-up and the other team with looked like a Christmas tree with red and blue lots lol. Uneven, but love the challenge.
I understand what you are saying .... You are talking about them matching rank vs rank.

However I am talking about the matches which are setup with uneven teams as fars as players vs bots.
In my theory this can happen with scenarios like the one below:

(Two parties of Two) vs (One Player) equates to Two vs. One But is really a 4 on 1 match

[bigblue786]

yeah i dont get it either. theres 8 ppl in the lobby and we're about to start another game. make it 3v5, 4v4 would be unfair. not even like a full party or anything, mabye a party of 2 or 3 and still would go 3v5

[NFI]

I typically run with another player... and have realized that quick match has a hard time distributing teams.

Maybe I am wrong, but It seems the problem may be based on a theory I have that they may calculate "parties" as a single player/entity... when starting a match.


I kinda did math as players joined and left as I played last night, and it seemed to be the problem.

Yes and no. It simply takes the average xp level of everyone in the party to get a single average, and finds players in that xp zone. It can't go about matching up 5 v 5, it doesnt even count spots, it would take entirely too long.

However t identifies multiple party members in order to find enough spots on a team. It finds space and just puts you on a team at random.

[1rate]

how hard could it be to balance teams, UT even had mutators in place to address this, so why not on gears 3,
I always play alone and I am almost always outnumbered.

Or just make ONE playlist with no parties... for all the lone-wolfs out there, seems to be a lot of us!

[wanes16years]

8 out 10 matches i would end up against a party ... WTF where's We're All Stranded Now when you need it :(

[iMoshToBreakdowns]

I know how you feel.

For example a match will start with say 4 players total. For some reason the game will start 1v3. Then 2 people will join and it will make the team of 3 a team of 5 instead of evening out the teams making it a 1v5. Was always a little frusterated about this but hey, pick your battles

[G3T GNASHTY]

If you are within a party, your party will not be separated when a match starts or ends. (This will not happen if the playlist that is created lists that parties will not be supported. Ex. "We're all Stranded Now.")

[ValeraPitiesDaFool]

8 out 10 matches i would end up against a party ... WTF where's We're All Stranded Now when you need it :(
When, We're all stranded now is gone, everyone complains about it not being on.
When, We're all stranded now is up, no one is playing it.

wat.

[1rate]

I know how you feel.

For example a match will start with say 4 players total. For some reason the game will start 1v3. Then 2 people will join and it will make the team of 3 a team of 5 instead of evening out the teams making it a 1v5. Was always a little frusterated about this but hey, pick your battles

I agree with everything you said, except pick your battles?
why should I have to leave/join a few matches, lose points/xp or whatever, so as to avoid completely unbalanced teams, I just wanna enjoy playing,
I am sure there was a Mut in place for UT2k4 that would always even out the number of players per team, UT2k4 was almost a decade ago.

Of course I am no Unreal engine guru and perhaps its not that easy to implement in Gears? anyone?
But what chance does the casual lone-wolf gamer stand against stacked, unfair & outnumbered teams, frustrating idd.

Or, as Wane16 & myself pointed out, give us one permanent stranded playlist please, problem solved :)

[o A R T S Y o]

I agree, I was with a team that didn't re-up and the other team with looked like a Christmas tree with red and blue lots lol. Uneven, but love the challenge.

Rank means nothing in this game, I am only a green 85 and put some work in on people that run with stacked red/blue teams all the time.

[Luck V3]

Yes hate joining stacked quick matches...of course my team will have a bad kid and his even worse split screen brother...

[Z7 SA Z7]

Im tired of being put into rounds with parties with 4-5 people in them.

I can deal with 3, but when its 4 or 5 its like why even bother.

I'm also tired of being put on teams by myself, or with one other person vs 4-5 people (non partied). This usually happens at the end of a round, when the game is creating the next round.

But whatever, somedays are better than others I suppose.