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Nyan
02-14-2012, 12:41 PM
I'm not talking about a weapon or a map.. I'm talking about the Bot AI.

Currently, if you play a game where a bot is present, the game turns into a 'be faster than the bot'-race. You can't overthink what weapon you're going to pick up, or who's going to get what. The round starts and it's a rush against time to make it to the Ink Grenade, the Boltok, the Gorgon, the Frag Grenades... you name it and the bots are rushing for it.

Now, the issue is not only the rushing of the bots, it's also what they do when they beat you to it;
They pick it up and then put it away for the rest of the match. Bots with frag grenades swing them blindly and never throw them at the enemy. They constantly sit swapping weapons while they're being shot instead of returning fire.

Bots are complete bastards when it comes to kills, they fail at almost everything and sit in cover doing nothing. The instant you down something, the bot rushes into action and blindly charges for the kill. Not once, not twice, but. Every. Damn. Chance they get.

But wait! The bot spotted a prey and managed to down his target! ~What will the crude predator do now?
SIT WITH HIS DAMN BACK AGAINST THE WALL UNTIL THE GUY BLEEDS OUT OR REVIVES HIMSELF.

Are you slowly dying on the floor?
Well your bot buddy doesn't mind, he can be standing right next to you and will prefer warming his back against the wall to picking you up from the floor.

One moment they're literally walking against walls, the next moment they're headshotting everything in their line of sight.


I find this the MOST irritating aspect of the game by far, PLEASE tweak the AI somewhat;

~Less rushy when it comes to picking up weapons
~Less inclined to steal downed kills
~More inclined to pick up a downed player
~More inclined to finish off their own downs

These are only a couple of the aspects which need improvement, but just tweaking these will already help..


Just my 2 cents..

Z_Ethan
02-14-2012, 12:43 PM
TLDR, but I support the idea of what you're saying. Although having opponent bots is fun, it seems like they make it a point to pull out a smoke grenade as you approach them. Right before you pop their head off with the Gnasher.

Peruvian
02-14-2012, 12:47 PM
bots need fixing love racing them for power weapons they dont use. or having them steal the final kill priceless

FLaW ChRiS
02-14-2012, 12:53 PM
Agreed, but not untill stopping power is removed and the long range gnasher is reduced. You have my vote though, bots are so random at times.

Flaremin
02-14-2012, 12:56 PM
I agree with everything you said. The bots are very bi-polar and can do the wildest things out of nowhere. Grenades and pistols excluded you can always try to swap weapons with them if they pick up the one you want. I love that Epic added this feature.

Z_Ethan
02-14-2012, 01:01 PM
Agreed, but not untill stopping power is removed and the long range gnasher is reduced. You have my vote though, bots are so random at times.
Long range Gnasher? Also didn't Quinn say stopping power had a negligible impact on gameplay? Either way, unrelated I suppose.

Nyan
02-14-2012, 01:02 PM
TLDR, but I support the idea of what you're saying. Although having opponent bots is fun, it seems like they make it a point to pull out a smoke grenade as you approach them. Right before you pop their head off with the Gnasher.

Well I'm sorry, if you don't bother reading what I wrote, I'm not reading what you wrote.



I agree with everything you said. The bots are very bi-polar and can do the wildest things out of nowhere. Grenades and pistols excluded you can always try to swap weapons with them if they pick up the one you want. I love that Epic added this feature.

While that's true, I mostly want to grab pistols and grenades, plus by the time the bot's finally in reach to trade..


Trenches, Bulletmarsh and Old Town are three maps that come to mind when I think of annoying bots.


It was a combination of these maps and Dry Dock which inspired me to post this topic.

Phlegethon
02-14-2012, 01:02 PM
I feel for those who think a few paragraphs is too long to read. Tragic.

Anyway, good point. I can deal with them taking power weapons because we can trade. But I'm sick of them getting grenades and pistols. Grenades are a worse issue. Trenches, Bulletmarsh and Old Town are three maps that come to mind when I think of annoying bots.
They could do with improving but I'm not sure that is what they'll focus on. Hell, Epic are spending most of their time dealing with people moaning about weapon nerfs or buffs.

Epic DOOM
02-14-2012, 01:04 PM
It's just sad that the only way the bots seem to move at all is by trying to get the power weapons. I would say that they shouldn't pick any up at all but then they would probably take cover in the spawn until it gets switched and they get killed.

Nyan
02-14-2012, 01:18 PM
It's just sad that the only way the bots seem to move at all is by trying to get the power weapons. I would say that they shouldn't pick any up at all but then they would probably take cover in the spawn until it gets switched and they get killed.

Them not picking up anything wouldn't be a good solution, but with how it's currently is.. it's just unbearable.