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RETRO!
01-28-2012, 10:57 PM
Since you (Epic) removed the Retro's stopping power can we get a bit of an accuracy buff to compensate for the loss?
Nothing much, just a little tighter spread.

godsofwar10
01-28-2012, 11:23 PM
how about you remove the retro from the game. it simply has no place in gears. if you arent good with the gnasher GET GOOD or stop complaining, its really that simple.

mags1412
01-28-2012, 11:25 PM
I can't see that being fair. It is extremely deadly in close range and counters almost all Shotgun rushes. The Retro does more than supply CQC protection. It forces the enemy to change their game plan if they intended to Gnasher rush. Unless of course they like to die.

mags1412
01-28-2012, 11:26 PM
how about you remove the retro from the game. it simply has no place in gears. if you arent good with the gnasher GET GOOD or stop complaining, its really that simple.

Criticism like this is frowned upon. He did not come in to this thread saying anything about the Gnasher. You have 7 posts and I am sure they are all negative with the way this one is written.

W9496
01-28-2012, 11:35 PM
how about you remove the retro from the game. it simply has no place in gears. if you arent good with the gnasher GET GOOD or stop complaining, its really that simple.

If you can't adapt to a starter weapon, then I believe YOU have no place in Gears.

Retro downs fairly quick, so I think it's fine right now. I didn't even know that it had stopping power to begin with until a few days ago.

Master Roshi
01-28-2012, 11:43 PM
If you can't adapt to a starter weapon, then I believe YOU have no place in Gears.

Retro downs fairly quick, so I think it's fine right now. I didn't even know that it had stopping power to begin with until a few days ago.

Get out. Now. Your kind is not welcome here. Fool.

On topic:

I haven't been playing much of Gears MP lately, but if the only change is the removal of stopping power I say the Retro is fine.

rybowser
01-28-2012, 11:45 PM
I don't agree, retro is way powerful and downs quick enough to not need it

Masterphailure
01-28-2012, 11:47 PM
I don't believe it needs stopping power with the amount of damage it does. In CQC, it's simply a powerhouse. Stopping Power wouldn't do much to help it honestly.

godsofwar10
01-28-2012, 11:47 PM
If you can't adapt to a starter weapon, then I believe YOU have no place in Gears.

Retro downs fairly quick, so I think it's fine right now. I didn't even know that it had stopping power to begin with until a few days ago.

interesting. im supposed to adapt to the product of non-skilled players not being able to adapt.

W9496
01-28-2012, 11:49 PM
Get out. Now. Your kind is not welcome here. Fool.


I can't tell whether or not you are being serious, but even if I think that somebody doesn't belong, at least I respect their right to play it. I may have strongly expressed an opinion of mine, but I know that if they spent money on the game, they should play how they want.

In my defense, He as being rather close-minded.

W9496
01-28-2012, 11:52 PM
interesting. im supposed to adapt to the product of non-skilled players not being able to adapt.

Who says that they could not adapt? Someone who uses the Retro could be great with a gnasher, or as you know it, the golden messiah gun. It's the same thing with gnasher users. Just because you do well with it, doesn't mean that you aren't new.

Every weapon also has a certain set of skills that go along with it, no exceptions.

RETRO!
01-29-2012, 12:06 AM
I can't see that being fair. It is extremely deadly in close range and counters almost all Shotgun rushes. The Retro does more than supply CQC protection. It forces the enemy to change their game plan if they intended to Gnasher rush. Unless of course they like to die. The thing is though, that if the Gnasher user actives his reload, jumps the cover and is able to get a close shot on the Retro user then he wins :(. Since there's no more stopping power on the Retro, shotgunners can close the distance and get that "one" shot in for the kill. Eh but I see your point though, things have to be balanced. I kinda wish they would just nerf the active gnasher a bit.

RETRO!
01-29-2012, 12:09 AM
interesting. im supposed to adapt to the product of non-skilled players not being able to adapt.
Ever think that maybe I use the Retro because I like a cool-looking assault rifle with a Rambo knife attached to it? Dude it's not about skill. It's about that I like how the gun looks and plays. I've done my fair share of Gnashering in the past, yeah it was fun for a bit but i've always liked rifles. I'm glad that gears now has a competitive CQC rifle.

TigsIndeed
01-29-2012, 12:53 AM
I don't think the retro needed stopping power to begin with. If you can down two gnasher rushers in one clip without it you should be able to use it elsewhere effectively.

Gnashes
01-29-2012, 01:12 AM
Single-Fire

The accuracy is crazy. If they're close enough that you can't down them before they kill you, you don't need to be using a rifle anyway.