I give up with some players....

[R3AP3R]

So sick of people with mods now....I've had 3 games tonight where they're blatantly modding hamerbursts......1 time a guy literally downed me and another guy in less than half a clip.....we were both full health and we both hit him with 2 gnasher shots each.....then reloaded (not active) and downed another guy in 1 second....this happened throughout the match the only time he died was when someone snipped him.......its beyond pathetic

[Beezy8669]

some people get a hard on when they cheat. makes me sick 2 man

[R3AP3R]

some people get a hard on when they cheat. makes me sick 2 man

It's just infuriating....I'm so temped to buy gears 2 back....its £5 at game and its a whole lot less rage inducing.....

[mrkelpo]

They should definitely throw a fire-rate cap on that thing. It's just unbelievable how fast some people down you.

[SPiD3RMANR3FL3X]

What game type did you encounter these dirt bags on, Ranked? etc....

did you stay until the end of the game, I'm not sure if i could tell if i came up against a HB modder. But if i was 100% sure, I'll take the penalty and leave, find
another game.

For me my rage can sometimes follow me to another game so i'd leave if there's cheating going on. My soul remains clam for the next match then, unless its another game with cheaters......LOL

[HUBRISofMAN467]

the other night people were modding and **** so much in a room i joined that it froze my connection...its ****ed up, i dont even like jumping on anymore

[R3AP3R]

What game type did you encounter these dirt bags on, Ranked? etc....

did you stay until the end of the game, I'm not sure if i could tell if i came up against a HB modder. But if i was 100% sure, I'll take the penalty and leave, find
another game.

For me my rage can sometimes follow me to another game so i'd leave if there's cheating going on. My soul remains clam for the next match then, unless its another game with cheaters......LOL

Ranked KoTH on 2 of the games and ranked TDM on the other.....I quit after my 5th death by the guy.....then I just switched my console off

[R3AP3R]

the other night people were modding and **** so much in a room i joined that it froze my connection...its ****ed up, i dont even like jumping on anymore

I know what you mean dude.

[crimedoggies]

I was under the impression there was a cap for the hammerburst. Could swear I read that somewhere, can anybody clarify?? I know that personally I can fire the HB pretty darn quick, but can certainly tell when someone is modding the HB>

[R3AP3R]

I was under the impression there was a cap for the hammerburst. Could swear I read that somewhere, can anybody clarify?? I know that personally I can fire the HB pretty darn quick, but can certainly tell when someone is modding the HB>

There's SUPPOSED to be a cap.......but if there is one its definitely not low enough.....if I'm on a good connection (since servers seem to be down again) I can get my hammerburst and snub upto a good firerate....otherwise I might aswell not bother....but consider the fact of 3 of my team mates were all using the hammerburst aswell.

I watched one of their cams when I died and they put a WHOLE clip into a guy and he turned around and put them down in 4/5 shots........now someone tell me there isn't cheating going on there I dare you!

[kurtfhouse]

So sick of people with mods now....I've had 3 games tonight where they're blatantly modding hamerbursts......1 time a guy literally downed me and another guy in less than half a clip.....we were both full health and we both hit him with 2 gnasher shots each.....then reloaded (not active) and downed another guy in 1 second....this happened throughout the match the only time he died was when someone snipped him.......its beyond pathetic

Same thing for me last night, can't even be bothered to send a message now you always get the stock "I've got a fast trigger finger" which is BS. You can tell when someones cheating.

[iiMPuLse]

Do you guys realize that their damage isn't increased by a modded controller?

If you put half a clip into him and he doesn't go down, then there's something wrong with your connection.

[Sanecow]

I was downed/killed by a guy with a hammerburst yesterday in quickmatch and while dead watched him mow another dude down. It was faster than a vulcan but with no kick. I've been owned many times before by many people with many weapons but this just didn't feel right. I didn't report it though because maybe he was just awesome.

[For Queen]

Guys, Support my poll on the cap for the rate of fire on the Hammerburst! Link can be found in my Signature.

I know how most of you feel, It's no surprise that this problem is growing larger, Throughout this week I'm seeing more and more threads just like this one about the hammerburst, Please Support the poll!

[MongooseRawr]

Don't be so quick to assume that people are using mods. Some people just have a fast trigger finger and seeing it client side may be different.

I got accused on Gears 2 of using a mod, and it was mostly when I would pre-active the hammerburst and down them extremely fast. I fire manually and pretty fast. Active bullets can greatly contribute to the speed you go down and make it seem like they are firing faster when the active damage is really doing some work.

[Mantis Tobagadin]

Do you guys realize that their damage isn't increased by a modded controller?

If you put half a clip into him and he doesn't go down, then there's something wrong with your connection.

Well.. depending on distance and connection it does, if the gnasher is 5 feet and being shot compared to the HB at the same distance with a higher rate of fire no matter what it will win...higher rate of fire + more bullets coming out with that rate of fire = more damage in they same amount of time it took the gnasher user to crank one round out...

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[greenblueman]

i hate modded hammys to man and this is coming from a guy who has a fast trigger finger its crazy and most of them have the always active thing on

[JOSH BROWN FTW]

It's just infuriating....I'm so temped to buy gears 2 back....its £5 at game and its a whole lot less rage inducing.....
Then you can come back to cry about host


They should definitely throw a fire-rate cap on that thing. It's just unbelievable how fast some people down you.
They already have a speed cap, i can reach it easily in fact most people can, a bit of advice pull the trigger using your middle finger instead, it can pull tge trigger faster.

Another bit of advice only pull the trigger down far enough for it to register, if you pull it all the way down then back up then you are doing it wrong.

You dont need mods to reach the cap, mods just make it easier.

If you really want to see mods go play mw2 and watch people use the EBR with an acog scope, you will quickly learn that the hammerburst cap is actually pretty fair.

[Vigilant Guardian]

Quit *****ing, I can dump a clip from a hammy in about 1-2 seconds depending on my mood with my finger. Just because it's not a gnasher doesn't mean it's a mod.


Then you can come back to cry about host


They already have a speed cap, i can reach it easily in fact most people can, a bit of advice pull the trigger using your middle finger instead, it can pull tge trigger faster.

Another bit of advice only pull the trigger down far enough for it to register, if you pull it all the way down then back up then you are doing it wrong.

You dont need mods to reach the cap, mods just make it easier.

If you really want to see mods go play mw2 and watch people use the EBR with an acog scope, you will quickly learn that the hammerburst cap is actually pretty fair.
Thank you!

[JOSH BROWN FTW]

the other night people were modding and **** so much in a room i joined that it froze my connection...its ****ed up, i dont even like jumping on anymore

Something is clearly wrong with your connection, you realize that a mod is just a turbo controller, you know like the ones you had for original xbox, it in no way causes your connection to mess up, you obviously have bigger than a modded hammerburst. Maybe fix the bad connection

[Ice ColeD]

I'm sick of the game period. With all the constant gun swaps from maps and ammo cheaping that Epic has done. No wonder people are driven to mod. Like Insane campaign for example, I'm carrying a Torque bow..its a bad guy weapon, so i go up to a Red Ammo box...and no reload for the Torque Bow? Wow, Real "epic" cheapness. OH yeah..and of course you can't forget about the cog bots. I mean I've gotten all the way to the last phase of the War beettle so to speak on solo Insane and my gahd..love the excellent coding on how the A.I should back you up...epic fail. I got more respect for Dom from Gears 1 ..at least he kept the Kryll buzy.

[JOSH BROWN FTW]

Whats REALLY UNFAIR is that epic.is probably going to slow the cap down even more to accommodate those of you out there with slow fingers, yes i know it sucks that you might never learn to play piano well but dont take the rest of us down with you.

[jashin]

You make yet another thread crying mods, idk how many youve made or maybe im mistaken but plenty of people have told you, the HB does have a fire cap it has since gears 2, the gun does and should down in under a second, bother the retro and lancer down in .63 seconds at medium and close range, the hammy clocks in at around a sec.

I'm not discrediting you, maybe you do run in to A LOT and i mean A LOT of modders, but i think most of it is you *****ing. The fire cap is around 9 shots per second (or so i believe)which guess what thats 1 down in 1 sec, the hb has 20 rounds a clip...thats 2 downs a clip, and the non active reload is stupid fast.

And from your original post, he downed 2 guys in each half a clip? 20>18, check
He reloaded and downed another guy nothing wrong so far.

Sounds to me like this guy knew how to use his hammy and was playing a support role, you rushed him with gnashers and got blown away by him, and he stayed back the whole game and let you guys rush him, seeing as his only death was a snipe. Just my 2cents.

Inb4 you're defender a modder you must be a modder!!!
I assure you i use a lancer 80% of the time, and rock actives on the thing all the time :cool:

OH!!!!!!! BTW, for those of you with slow trigger fingers, an actived HB at max fire rate looks like a vulcan.

pro tip for you guys as well, if im right about my RoF of 9, ease up on your shots and pace yourself, 9 shots isnt inhuman and quite easy imo, maybe its from years of paintball that i can shoot like that, but 9 shots per second with a middle finger is nothing astonishing. With practice maintaining that for the 20 bullets is easy.

Buncha scrubs (sarcasm, gotta add something to let you guys know im not flexing my ego, just my opinion)

[Hav0k Onslaught]

To me it seems that claiming that others are using mods is just an excuse to explain why someone lost.

There are a whole bunch of factors involved when making that assumption such as your connection, their connection, whether being shot at by multiple people (which you also may not be aware of), whether the shooter had actives, whether the shooter landed head shots, whether dedicated servers are down and maybe more I haven't mentioned. There is also a cap on the hammerburst firing rate that is apparently not that hard to reach.

Might it be possible that a person using a modded controller is not any better than someone with good aim and a fast trigger? Perhaps they didn't have a modded controller then, and they just played better than you.

[|| Vitty ||]

Tonight especially, it seems like there are no dedicated servers. The wild swings in how my team performed tonight were just asinine. It makes it seem like they are firing super fast because you drop like a ton of bricks and seemingly do nothing to them. WTF happened to this game? It was great the first month. Has gone wayyyyyyyyyy downhill now. Not because of the players, but the quality of the games is just junk now. It's almost like they had dedicated servers for that first month and then said F it and now people host all the time. It's really frustrating because the game was so much fun when the servers were working well.

[YahBoyzxSLACKEIRx]

Im guesing the people who dislike the hammy so much either cant even get near the cap or are always being crossed out by someone using a hammerburst.

In all fairness i love the hammerburst but i find that the other 2 assault rifles are just as strong/stronger but i dont see people *****ing about the lancers 60 round clip head modifier and did i mention a 60 round clip?
Well anyways

Yes mods are annoying but whoever buys a mod for gow3 isnt to smart because the cap for it is reasnable and most people can reach it...
Now as for the 60 round lancer clip..everyone has that and everyone can spray with it without having to reload..

Sorry if my argument was ridiculous but so are the rest off the assault rifles in this game.
Point is ! Big nerf on all assault rifles :D

[Medevacs wXs]

They should have just kept the hammerburst, Oh idk a BURST fire.... With all the modding that happened in gow2 I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't cap it. Or put it back to a burst fire with a set fire rate.

[R3AP3R]

Then you can come back to cry about host


They already have a speed cap, i can reach it easily in fact most people can, a bit of advice pull the trigger using your middle finger instead, it can pull tge trigger faster.

Another bit of advice only pull the trigger down far enough for it to register, if you pull it all the way down then back up then you are doing it wrong.

You dont need mods to reach the cap, mods just make it easier.

If you really want to see mods go play mw2 and watch people use the EBR with an acog scope, you will quickly learn that the hammerburst cap is actually pretty fair.


who mentioned needing a mod to reach the damn cap? like you said, IT MAKES IT EASY! you don't need to do anything but aim which leads to more shots on target! also there's a reason the controllers are not aloud for competitive gaming....because its cheating....../your argument

[R3AP3R]

Quit *****ing, I can dump a clip from a hammy in about 1-2 seconds depending on my mood with my finger. Just because it's not a gnasher doesn't mean it's a mod.


Thank you!

you honestly aren't worth any reasoning with

[R3AP3R]

@the idiots who claim there is nothing wrong......you do realise that the rate of fire mixed with only 8/7 bullets for a down results in 1 second to down if you can remotely aim?

also as for the moron who claims I've made another thread about mods.........this is maybe my 2nd! and I'm also not the only one noticing it.....oh but with your precious dedicated servers that must constantly be up as you never seem run into french/germans that use them!

Sorry I wasn't born in a trailer with the rest of you!

[R3AP3R]

To me it seems that claiming that others are using mods is just an excuse to explain why someone lost.

There are a whole bunch of factors involved when making that assumption such as your connection, their connection, whether being shot at by multiple people (which you also may not be aware of), whether the shooter had actives, whether the shooter landed head shots, whether dedicated servers are down and maybe more I haven't mentioned. There is also a cap on the hammerburst firing rate that is apparently not that hard to reach.

Might it be possible that a person using a modded controller is not any better than someone with good aim and a fast trigger? Perhaps they didn't have a modded controller then, and they just played better than you.

Yes they clearly played better when it was KoTH on azura and 2 of them just sat at the mulcher spawn and farmed kills without getting a cap the entire game??

oh wait no that's just being a sad F@G thinking hes good because he can exploit a mod! also the fact we beat them......of course they played better o.0

As for a good trigger finger.....I and a few others I play with can hit the cap without a mod.....but it throws your aim off and that's why I throw 5 shots out then take aim again! with a mod oh look.....no recoil to deal with just keep your aim on target....what is it with yanks and Canadians that never want to admit that the game has freaking faults!

[iFail]

Epic can't do anything about modded controllers without punishing the Hammerburst users who use the rifle legitimately.

I'd rather not be punished for other people and their cheating controllers... (which I've never encountered, but have been accused of using :p)

[R3AP3R]

Epic can't do anything about modded controllers without punishing the Hammerburst users who use it legitimately.

I'd rather not be punished for other people and their cheating controllers... (which I've never encountered, but have been accused of using :p)

"sigh" true enough.....sorry for the rant but after 3 games of people using them (2 of them being the same team as before)

it was either vent on here or snap the disk

[Liquid Shotty]

There are very easy solution's to this

A) Reduce the amount the gun can be fired (Test this with dedicated hammy user's to find the sweet spot or max fire) and adjust the damage accordingly to balance the weapon out or up the clip size - what ever needs to be done.

B) Install mod detection software on the server which will cap the fire rate to default and put an end to it once and for all in ranked.

Personally I've had it with ranked and all the little s**t heads who sit back and mod it - I'm almost done with this game and I'm one of it's biggest fan's since day one. If i wanted to play COD with gears skins then i would of bought COD.

Either one of these methods will not punish the normal hammy user

[R3AP3R]

There are very easy solution's to this

A) Reduce the amount the gun can be fired (Test this with dedicated hammy user's to find the sweet spot or max fire) and adjust the damage accordingly to balance the weapon out or up the clip size - what ever needs to be done.

B) Install mod detection software on the server which will cap the fire rate to default and put an end to it once and for all in ranked.

Personally I've had it with ranked and all the little s**t heads who sit back and mod it - I'm almost done with this game and I'm one of it's biggest fan's since day one. If i wanted to play COD with gears skins then i would of bought COD.

Either one of these methods will not punish the normal hammy user

Its QM aswell bro....doesn't matter where you go multiplayer wise you'll always end up running into some sad acts with them. Don't quit just cause of them we're going to start sorting scrims out when I sort a few issues out

[kurtfhouse]

@Hav0k Onslaught; "To me it seems that claiming that others are using mods is just an excuse to explain why someone lost"

Thats just not true, the last player I'm sure was cheating was only a rank 12. We played against him 3 games in a row and he lost every game and he went minus in all 3, which just made it all the more pathetic.

[Liquid Shotty]

Its QM aswell bro....doesn't matter where you go multiplayer wise you'll always end up running into some sad acts with them. Don't quit just cause of them we're going to start sorting scrims out when I sort a few issues out

See the problem there is QM is on the whole Client Side connection with a rare instance of grabbing a server game when they are up and running - if your on someone else's xbox their is no mod detection software obviously so this problem in general will never go away in QM. Ranked is really the only place anything can be done about the issue with detection software running soley on server based games.

Scrims sound good - I'll never quit the game itself (although it isnt the same enjoyment i got from 2) but I'm not staying in matches like that last night where 1 hammy second downs from across the map are happening even if it means losing XP. I understand why people use them and it's quite a simple equation - they care about K/D and if they really understood things they would realise no-one in this game or world cares about someone else's k/d ratio no matter how big or small......it's a video game and if all they do is play this game to achieve fake stats then they have some very very sad lives.

[Maker]

This issue will continue to be around as long as semi automatic weapons exist in video games no matter the type. Its supposed to be a skill based weapon for those fast enough to enjoy its advantages. Modders cannot be stopped by this for several reasons that are literally a decade old. Turbo controllers have existed since the NES and possibly before its time. Some have speed adjustments or the newer ones have arythmic timing setups to help beat "mod detection" Some have both. One of my cod buddies has one such controller he payed about $100+ for and he doesn't whip out that ability unless someone else does. (He doesn't play gears so don't yell at me).

Ive been very close with modding communities before due to my fighting game background and doing a lot of my own service / fixes on my arcade sticks / onza controller / official xbox controller etc:. The information you can get to beat whatever system put in place takes no time for a modding community to "re-break" the cap by shipping out or adjusting controllers based on the ROF cap found for the weapon in question. 1200 cap will result in 1199 ROF controller setups or adjustments and a "turbo sensing system" will be beaten by the arythmic ability of the controllers to internally adjust their fire rate from 1000-1199 semi randomly. Can they be detected, sure. But by the time any game company puts out a fix, someone cracks the update and finds the new ROF cap then one post on forums later the rof cap is known and the modding community basically just resets their adjustable controllers or sets out a new set of hardware based on that update. The adjustable controllers are by far the better buy if your not looking for two digit ROF advantages becuase that $100+ your going to spend on a good one built by someone who knows the system is going to last you a long time.

So Epic could patch this tomorrow... and in two weeks you'd be right back at square one.

MS Certified controller detection has been mentioned in the past. This would be ok for those playing gears or any other FPS really because it would allow MS to some how make their controllers recognizable by the system. This could be shared with trusted manufacturers lik Mad Catz or Razer and no one would notice a change except the modding guys. But give it time and those guys who know their stuff (and have older controllers etc: or an electrician degree) can crack that too.

All that would do is give a longer time between mod add ins, cost MS money, make us buy new gear, and all over in about six months or less have the same problems again.

I guess what im trying to get across here is that no fix is permanent and whatever you do to cap them is going to hurt the guys who legitimately are fast.

This said after a game of blood drive the other day, im fully ready to abandon the starting weapon selection, One hammy is no big deal Five, holy crap.

[The Retro Master]

So sick of people with mods now....I've had 3 games tonight where they're blatantly modding hamerbursts......1 time a guy literally downed me and another guy in less than half a clip.....we were both full health and we both hit him with 2 gnasher shots each.....then reloaded (not active) and downed another guy in 1 second....this happened throughout the match the only time he died was when someone snipped him.......its beyond pathetic

How exactly does a modded Hammerburst allow you to down two people in less than half a clip?

Personal oppinion: I've never encountered a Hammerburst I felt was modded.

[Maker]

How exactly does a modded Hammerburst allow you to down two people in less than half a clip?

Its just a rate of fire issue. Think about this. If you have to manually control recoil AND fire fast as you can thats two actions taking up that much of your attention, add a full auto hammy on that and ALL you have to do is clamp down on the trigger, forget it exists and focus on recoil / aiming. Its the other issue of modded controllers no one talks about and its one of those "soft" advantages that honestly make it into "hard" advantage territory because of this exact detail. You can't balance that either by the way that's strictly a human ability fact. less is easier to do than more.

[Gearsaholic]

yeah i know what you mean, iv run into some modders at overpass...damn i hate that map. im in cover trying to get close right, but as soon as i get out they would instantly start filling me with bullets. downed almost instantly.

i can fire very fast myself, but its very hard to keep that consistent fire rate and dead on precision at the same time. im no were near a hammerburst pro, but i find it more efficient then any other gun and thats why i enjoy using it, its a tough gun to master.

but these modders ruin all the fun, and thats what its supposed to be about.

and to the person that was talkin about those guys camping on azura and not capping once, its obvious they were just going for a high k/d ratio the cheap way...damn loosers..so pathetic its sad

[BigPapaPJC]

Just got killed from one now WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Moley UK]

Quit *****ing, I can dump a clip from a hammy in about 1-2 seconds depending on my mood with my finger.



PMSL.... of course you can! I can almost smell the BS!

[jashin]

@the idiots who claim there is nothing wrong......you do realise that the rate of fire mixed with only 8/7 bullets for a down results in 1 second to down if you can remotely aim?

also as for the moron who claims I've made another thread about mods.........this is maybe my 2nd! and I'm also not the only one noticing it.....oh but with your precious dedicated servers that must constantly be up as you never seem run into french/germans that use them!

Sorry I wasn't born in a trailer with the rest of you!

I'll say it again for you reaper my dear friend.

The lancer, rolling actives as it should be, if you argue this you're an idiot, its at the front for a reason, having them rolling 100% of the time is the "skill" with it, and aiming for the head, together this gun gets 3.0% damage modifier, an active lancer hitting a standing target with actives at medium range will down a person in ~.63sec, for arguments sake we'll say ONE SECOND.

The *** lancer, i mean retro lancer, will also down a standing target at medium range in ~.63 unactive. Again for arguments sake it downs in ONE SECOND.

The Hammerburst active at any range will down in ~1.16 seconds. For arguments sake ONE SECOND.

Can you see the correlation here? They all down in guess, ONE SECOND.

Go grab a timer and test it yourself.

Also, I never have and never will live a trailer. You on the other hand may as well have as you lack the rational capacity to accept what many have told you, you made a 2nd thread to complain about the same thing, this alone already says something about you, and are getting the same answers by many, myself included. Stop *****ing about it, you're obviously doing something wrong, change it or stop *****ing.

Once again for you, all rifles down is about one second, the HB has a firing cap of about 9shots/sec, it takes 9 shots to down someone that's one second for you. Now i ask you not to make a 3rd thread about you *****ing over this once again, or go play alpha.

[The Retro Master]

Its just a rate of fire issue. Think about this. If you have to manually control recoil AND fire fast as you can thats two actions taking up that much of your attention, add a full auto hammy on that and ALL you have to do is clamp down on the trigger, forget it exists and focus on recoil / aiming. Its the other issue of modded controllers no one talks about and its one of those "soft" advantages that honestly make it into "hard" advantage territory because of this exact detail. You can't balance that either by the way that's strictly a human ability fact. less is easier to do than more.

My point is the OP is raging about a modded Hammerburst that downed him and a buddy in half a clip. I mean, really? Really?

The OP is just bad and needs to vent in the forums... I don't believe that there are no controller mods, but I have NEVER encountered a Hammy that was inescapable. I don't know what that says about the community...

[R3AP3R]

My point is the OP is raging about a modded Hammerburst that downed him and a buddy in half a clip. I mean, really? Really?

The OP is just bad and needs to vent in the forums... I don't believe that there are no controller mods, but I have NEVER encountered a Hammy that was inescapable. I don't know what that says about the community...

Right I'm clearly bad.....2.5 k/d on quick and a 1.8 on Ranked TDM 2.0+ on Quick AND ranked KoTH with above 3.2 W/L on both gametypes in both categories aswell.......STFU coming from a guy with 5 posts and called retro master you can't say **** also maybe I worded it badly.....LESS THAN A FULL CLIP TO DOWN BOTH OF US! that results in less than a half clip to down 1 of us and less than half a clip to down the other.....

Now GTFO my thread!

[Fenhold]

For the naysayers check out the Evil Controllers GOW 3 rapid fire/ auto active reload mod (they have a Youtube ad video). While playing CTL I ran across a player who was most likely using their full mod controller. He was owning the field so bad I spent more time watching his view than playing. He was using the Hammerburst to close in and the snub (with far too much effect) when holding the leader. What gave it away though (besides no stutter in firing) was the auto revive, he was first last to go down in a crowd and the first up every time. All you can do is avoid the player or try to irritate them so they quit.

[The Medic]

It's just infuriating....I'm so temped to buy gears 2 back....its £5 at game and its a whole lot less rage inducing.....

were we playing the same game? gears 2 not rage inducing?!!?

[R3AP3R]

were we playing the same game? gears 2 not rage inducing?!!?

Okay I lied I smashed 2 pads playing that game but at least I and none of my friends have snapped that disk lol

[Maker]

Guys its a discussion of game balance not skill. I have run into inescapable hammys but they are few and far between.

Its not that huge of an issue. You will run into teams or solo's of these guys occasionally it happens. And while the OP may be venting. It doesn't change the fact that we have modded hammys out there. just beware of these guys and dislike / whatever. It'll never get "fixed"


I don't know what that says about the community...

All that means is some have and some haven't experienced it yet, or the ones that have and don't care don't worry about it.

[StoicReflection]

Its almost as bad as the connection issues

[BOLTOK]

It's just infuriating....I'm so temped to buy gears 2 back....its £5 at game and its a whole lot less rage inducing.....

No no Gears 2 is horrible. That is all.

[gold charro]

Not shure if mod controlls or OP rifles

[Aggressive]

LOL, "he only died when some one snipped him", the doctor gave him the chop?

But seriously, I can down people with active reload HB quickly too and I don't use a modded controller.

[PhizzilliO]

He mad cause he sucks at Gears :)
Try keeping your head down next time son

[R3AP3R]

He mad cause he sucks at Gears :)
Try keeping your head down next time son

LMAO! if you say so BRO

EDIT: also says the guy who's playing QUICK execution? LMAO!

[lolcougars]

So sick of people with mods now....I've had 3 games tonight where they're blatantly modding hamerbursts......1 time a guy literally downed me and another guy in less than half a clip.....we were both full health and we both hit him with 2 gnasher shots each.....then reloaded (not active) and downed another guy in 1 second....this happened throughout the match the only time he died was when someone snipped him.......its beyond pathetic

You do know that a hammer burst mod doesn't make the hammerburst shoot 500 bullets per second or make each bullet do more damage. All it does is shoot at the speed any good hammerburst user would shoot at by just holding down the right trigger. So what you're describing is pretty much impossible. You were obviously being shot at by more than one person at the same time and if you and your friend both hit him with 2 gnasher shots each then he should of gone down?

[R3AP3R]

Right seriously.
The hammerburst downs a person in 8 COUNT IT EIGHT shots WITHOUT ACTIVE the hammerburst...has a 20/25 bullet clip.....

SO to anyone with a very basic understanding of maths........8+8 = 16..........16 BULLETS OUT OF (for arguments sake) 20 is enough to down 2 people....

Also 3 of their team were re-spawning.....so who was magically shooting us when the other one was fighting at boom???

AND the gnasher shots were part of my point about how much foreign players sponge......./thread

[tre bomber]

ive been encountering it everyday now, really sucks, just wish people could play the game how it was meant to be played

[Maker]

Do I get ignored on purpose or do people just not want to hear the truth? I already said its not the cap that will fix it, Its a human issue because holding the trigger is less jerky on the controller than pulling or twitching it fast. Which throws your aim off slightly already, add in game existing recoil and there you go.

Remove the need to feather the trigger makes the aiming more accurate. regardless what else it does.

[patriot715]

You don't need to mod to get kills/downs with a Hammerburst, let alone an active

[R3AP3R]

Do I get ignored on purpose or do people just not want to hear the truth? I already said its not the cap that will fix it, Its a human issue because holding the trigger is less jerky on the controller than pulling or twitching it fast. Which throws your aim off slightly already, add in game existing recoil and there you go.

Remove the need to feather the trigger makes the aiming more accurate. regardless what else it does.

I wasn't ignoring you dude I agree with you. I just like to point out to people how narrow minded they are about this kind of thing....like saying the mod doesn't give it a damage boost......It doesn't freaking need to :rolleyes: Its just annoying how ignorant most people are to this problem.

[R3AP3R]

You don't need to mod to get kills/downs with a Hammerburst, let alone an active

I'm confused......was that aimed at me or someone else?

[WarDecoy II]

LMAO! if you say so BRO

EDIT: also says the guy who's playing QUICK execution? LMAO!Ummm... Whats Wrong with Quick, there is no difference besides one being called RANKED and one being called QUICK, personally there is less gnasher inconsistency in quick, so that's why i play quick everything, and when epic fixes it, then I'll play Ranked More

[patriot715]

I'm confused......was that aimed at me or someone else?

Just in general. A lot of people think other players have mods when they don't. The Hammerburst is pretty strong now.


Ummm... Whats Wrong with Quick, there is no difference besides one being called RANKED and one being called QUICK, personally there is less gnasher inconsistency in quick, so that's why i play quick everything, and when epic fixes it, then I'll play Ranked More

I agree with this by the way. What's the point of Ranked Matches if there are no ranks?

[R3AP3R]

Ummm... Whats Wrong with Quick, there is no difference besides one being called RANKED and one being called QUICK, personally there is less gnasher inconsistency in quick, so that's why i play quick everything, and when epic fixes it, then I'll play Ranked More

Nothing......its the fact he's calling me bad when He's running around against bots. I found it funny.

[R3AP3R]

Just in general. A lot of people think other players have mods when they don't. The Hammerburst is pretty strong now.



I agree with this by the way. What's the point of Ranked Matches if there are no ranks?

How do you mean no ranks? :S also fair play

[Trashball Cole]

Never seen one person with a mod.
I've seen some pretty decent Hammerburst players, but it's obvious they don't mod.

[patriot715]

How do you mean no ranks? :S also fair play

Well remember in Halo 2 there were Ranks for playing Ranked Matches? Or Gears 2 before they changed it? You played Ranked to get a higher rank. There aren't "ranks" anymore. Why play Ranked Match if there are no ranks?

[R3AP3R]

Damn Double post

[R3AP3R]

Well remember in Halo 2 there were Ranks for playing Ranked Matches? Or Gears 2 before they changed it? You played Ranked to get a higher rank. There aren't "ranks" anymore. Why play Ranked Match if there are no ranks?

Ah I get you now, To be fair I play ranked match for the "better" opposition. Also I prefer ranked because it actually has to put you against a team. rather than finding game 15 and being against bots until someone joins...and then leaves when they see a clan.

+ it gives people something to think about before they rage quit. they get a penalty rather than.......F's sake I can't get a kill (leave find another game, rinse and repeat)

[aweZm]

It's just infuriating....I'm so temped to buy gears 2 back....its £5 at game and its a whole lot less rage inducing.....

rofl...I'd rather play against a team of 5 modded hammerbursts than play Gears 2.

[R3AP3R]

rofl...I'd rather play against a team of 5 modded hammerbursts than play Gears 2.

Rather you than me.

[Liquid Shotty]

Come played ranked then and your wish will be granted!!!!

[Sddoye01]

HB is OPed. That is the problem. It's a CRUTCH for decent players. A vet using the HB is no different than a noob using a SO imo... Each group is using a unfair advantage, just in a different way.

I honestly feel guilty when I pick up the HB and use it. Anyone saying its not OPed is in denial. And good luck going up against a whole team using the stupid thing.....

And I also have seen people that are using a modded HB. Not many but about once a week. One guy was shooting so fast the sound of the gun wouldn't even register....

[AwfulCreature]

OMG i didnt knew that... there is people cheating.. :/ that explains how one hammerburst shot ****ing rape my brains out :s

[CasualKiwiGamer]

I'll probably be slammed for saying this but it seems that playing ranked Gears with a HB is a bit like playing Halo 3/ Reach with BR/DMRs.

The highly skilled players basically can set up a defendable position and rape anyone who comes near with team shotting to the head.

This is one of the reasons I play gears because I know I can never compete against that type of teamwork. I'm sticking to quickmatch where most stick to a variety of weapons as the maps etc dictate, but for me because I enjoy using the Gnasher as much as a rifle

[SCOTT KOHLMEIER]

The more and more people keep asking for changes, the more the game becomes unbalanced. Remember World of Warcraft, i used to play it for fun back in HS. Every new update, would buff this, nerf that, and always...always something became too powerful, or a class becomes too powerful, or just sucks now.

I understand your frustration guys, I use both the Lancer and the Hammerburst. So I have a good eye for when the weapon is used incorrectly or something fishy is going on.

The clip is designed to down someone with about 2/5 of the clip left, w/o active. I believe the "The average rate" (also considering misses) the clip is used up generally and the person is downed. and then you switch to your sidearm to finish, or if time get that quick reload.

In my opinion, There is absolutely no reason, 1 on 1 that the hammerburst non-active should down someone in less than 1/5 of the clip as some are saying is happening. It may seem like that, but obviously lag/mods.

OR what I noticed today playing Team Death Match, you know the kind of event where "my Snub pistol or my hammerburst (basically the semi auto weapons) never has a consistent fire rate. I swear some days, they fire as fast as my finger is pressing, other days its like burst fire... click.. click.. click... burst. (hopefully some of you know what I mean)

If it is not a modded controller, then this simply is the fact that one team has host, and your team doesnt. You know, the game types where you are like "WTF" or one team is completely one sided every single game.

Just some things to notice next time you play, these are things I observe first before I start to go throwing out the "He is probably cheating card"

[TexasTech90]

If you have a great connection...I was thinking the same thing and got it handed to me. I have not played it since 3 was released...these guys had been.

We all get pissed and *****. That is the beauty of Gears because I never get killed legit (sarcasm). I just sold my PS1 and I had a "Game Shark" with hack codes in the book that came with the game...to beat the computer. I wasn't very proud but funny.

[CasualKiwiGamer]

I think that in reality, all global online shooters are inconsistant enough to frustrate the hell out of anyone that takes the game too seriously.

I just do my best game and take the hammerburst downs, Gnasher sponging, or whatever else comes up in my stride as part of it.

as long as I get to blow someones head to pieces as often as possible I'm happy

[Luck V3]

Cap it? I've recently started using it on certain maps and have had some success.

[MxcnPro12]

I miss teh shotty battles in G2.. Regardless of lag or not... That game had a lot of memories :)

[Viewing the hue]

I wish someone with that controller would post a video so I could see just how fast the shots are. I have used the Hammer burst since the gear3 beta. (I never thought I would give up my lancer) so I learned how to shoot it pretty fast but would like to compare my fire rate to the modded one.

[Viewing the hue]

NM I found one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-MgCfMwln0

Ok this makes sense it should be easy to tell because of how consistent the fire rate is. I pretty fast but I can't shoot a whole clip that rhythmically. and this video sow the snub downing faster then the HB?? Does it have higher close range damage?

[GhostlyKage]

I don't think firing the hammerburst at it's maximum rate of fire is hard at all...So, I'm not sure how someone can tell if someone mods, or not. I can easily fire that thing really fast. It's so easy. I have no idea what the point of modding is.