Lancer Is Over Powered ?!

[TryHardNinja]

Am I the only one that thinks the Lancer out classes the other Assault Rifles and its too powerful ?

[Arsyyn]

Yeah, it's a little OP, but I don't mind. It's not on the same level as something like the MP40 in CoD: World at War or anything.

[The Locust Horde]

Its fine .

[Helluminatus]

The Hammy can take it in the hands of a competant player

[ahgha]

Lancer is by far and away the dominant rifle. Also slightly OP, but not gamebreaking.

I say reduce the active bonus or the headshot multiplier or both.

Also, make the chainsaw take slightly longer to rev or make the character turn speed slower when the saw is revved. It seems more and more people are chainsawing others that are behind them just because they can turn and rev so quickly. I have done it and have had it done to me. Both times it was clearly BS.

Whatever they decide to do, it should tone down the speed at which it can down while not making it useless.

[suppafinga]

The Hammerburst pwnzorz.

[TryHardNinja]

I am a Hammerburst user myself but in my opinion I think the Lancer out classes it and I want to see your guys opinion

[TryHardNinja]

Lancer is by far and away the dominant rifle. Also slightly OP, but not gamebreaking.

I say reduce the active bonus or the headshot multiplier or both.

Also, make the chainsaw take slightly longer to rev or make the character turn speed slower when the saw is revved. It seems more and more people are chainsawing others that are behind them just because they can turn and rev so quickly. I have done it and have had it done to me. Both times it was clearly BS.

Whatever they decide to do, it should tone down the speed at which it can down while not making it useless.

I agree with you its not game breaking but its too affective and I like your ideas for this gun

[Falcon2223]

The gun is fine, retro downs people faster close range, hammerburst does better long range, lancer is best mid range. I almost never die by the gun even on the alpha playlist...there are plenty of negative factors that make it balanced with the game, and besides that hammerburst is getting a buff so the lancer should be even less of an issues online (not that it is one now though)

[Z_Ethan]

It's way easier for me to get kills with the Hammerburst. The Lancer doesn't seem to work well for me simply because it's forte is actives and headshots, and I'm not a pre-active kind of guy (and the opportunity to active never seems to be appropriate) nor am I aiming for the head since I'm usually shooting from quite a distance.

[zechs marquise]

I have no issues with the Lancer, but i prefer the Hammerburst over the Lancer

[HGunSlingerX]

Lancer is the best rifle. Also, is one of the best weapons period. I find myself debating whether or not to drop my lancer for most power weapons. Active lancer is the scariest thing in this game.

[TryHardNinja]

Lancer is the best rifle. Also, is one of the best weapons period. I find myself debating whether or not to drop my lancer for most power weapons. Active lancer is the scariest thing in this game.

Yeah the active reload is the biggest problem with it

[Supreme Beast78]

then move out the way

[XOmn1cide3X]

Lancer is fine.

[Sixth]

Haha. There you go. The every thing except Gnasher is OP.

[Mr.Storm]

Its soso a lot of Stopping Power though

[Brendy Boy]

I think the lancer is easily the strongest starting weapon. So much ammo in a clip, active bonus, headshot bonus, stopping power, easy to use, etc.

[Epic DOOM]

It's a little too versatile considering it's ease of use. It doesn't need a significant nerf. Maybe dial back the active reload damage considering the clip size and rate of fire it has.

Beta Hammerburst wasn't as strong or as versatile as retail Lancer, and it's pretty acknowledged that the Hammerburst in beta was OP.

[TryHardNinja]

I think the lancer is easily the strongest starting weapon. So much ammo in a clip, active bonus, headshot bonus, stopping power, easy to use, etc.

I completely agree with you

[Coleyman]

The Lancer is absolutely the best, and strongest, rifle in Gears 3.

[TryHardNinja]

Haha. There you go. The every thing except Gnasher is OP.

If you dont like complaining get off the forums

[Eliguy5]

Damn i must using it wrong or something. Im lucky if i can just down somone with the damn thing in public/ranked games.

[Z_Ethan]

Whoever said it first was right, Lancer is next on the hit list.

[Meatyy]

Damn i must using it wrong or something. Im lucky if i can just down somone with the damn thing in public/ranked games.

Always having/keeping an active going is what makes it scary. The gun needs to have less bullets or it's active bonuses need to be tweeked

[Eliguy5]

Idk mabey i just suck balls with it in public lol im an active reload pro but... I dunno. Im just sticking to the retro and hammer

[IPlatinum]

Ya it's dumb stupid if I wanted to get lancered down I'd play COD

[OyeDale05]

every weapon is overpowered

[TryHardNinja]

every weapon is overpowered

Not really

[OyeDale05]

Not reallyUmm a INK is overpowered in this game... it's a noob friendly game i get it.

[Garry]

It's just it's infinite magazine and the lack of effort required to use it. But any GOOD HB user can take on ANY Lancer user with 0% possibility of failure. Lancer will always fail against retro at short range.
Balance doesn't mean equality in all situations.

[Corporal Baird]

It's okay, it is just way too easy to active than the other rifles, but it still isn't as good as the hammy in long range.

[bxfinest]

I dont think its overpowered i think the health its just too low. Which makes it seem overpowered.

[cape000]

No.

In a face to face duel, it's always HB > Lancer (if you have a fast finger).

[H0rr0r Sc0pe]

I find the lancer to be pretty much useless at long range but at every other range it dominates, which kinda saddens me because I genuinly find the hammerburst more fun
to use. But its annoying how it takes much more effort to use it yet still falls slightly short of the lancers capabilities.

My dream rifle would be a hammerburst with a headshot multiplier and a chainsaw on the end lol

[IMPEND1NG DOOM]

The active reload is what makes it OP. No other gun can even compare to the lancers active

[TryHardNinja]

Umm a INK is overpowered in this game... it's a noob friendly game i get it.

Yes and its Epic fault they are following the same path as CoD and the INK got buffed its not OP but its so Annoying when you get Lancer while INK stunned

[TryHardNinja]

It's okay, it is just way too easy to active than the other rifles, but it still isn't as good as the hammy in long range.

Yes the active is its biggest problem and that is true but Gears is a more CQC game and Im a Aggressive so it that advantage doesnt effect me

[TryHardNinja]

I dont think its overpowered i think the health its just too low. Which makes it seem overpowered.

-___- the health been always the same the thing that is different is the Lancer not the health

[TryHardNinja]

The active reload is what makes it OP. No other gun can even compare to the lancers active

Agreed the Active is the Lancers biggest problem

[TryHardNinja]

It's just it's infinite magazine and the lack of effort required to use it. But any GOOD HB user can take on ANY Lancer user with 0% possibility of failure. Lancer will always fail against retro at short range.
Balance doesn't mean equality in all situations.

Your making it seem like the Gears is assault rifle game which epic is trying to make it

[Trinimini]

The gun is fine, retro downs people faster close range, hammerburst does better long range, lancer is best mid range. I almost never die by the gun even on the alpha playlist...there are plenty of negative factors that make it balanced with the game, and besides that hammerburst is getting a buff so the lancer should be even less of an issues online (not that it is one now though)

What would those negative factors be? Seriously, the only thing I can see wrong with it is that it does the least amount of damage bullet-for-bullet than any of the other assault rifles. However, it has a 60-round mag, headshot multiplier, more accurate with a higher rate of fire than the Retro and the things plays like its on steroids after an active reload. Please don't tell me that I can use cover, because that's like saying the gun's other weakness is that it can't shoot through cover, which only strengthens the argument it's overpowered.

[Vivica]

I personally think the AR's are extremely well balanced.

Lancer is nowhere near as strong as the others, but has the rate of fire.
Retro is powerful, but horribly in accurate - only useful for mid/close quarters.
Hammy is really powerful, especially on active, and has great accuracy, but suffers from poor rate of fire/clip size.

If you ask me they're perfect as they are.

[Energizamillion]

I agree. Well then again i think all 3 em are (ik im about to get bashed about this). Hammerburst gets thrown in only cuz of modded controllers

[Tuberculosis]

It's very OP, botomless clip, easy active, does tons more damage with actives, plus it's accessible, and can compete with the gnasher in close range battles! If you don't immediately get close to the person you'll get destroyed because of it's stopping power. It's like QUICK SAND! Lancerfests are so boring, nerf it please epic.

[slicknslim88]

The biggest complaint I hear about the Lancer, and it's something I agree with is the seemingly bottomless clip. There were times where I was laying on the trigger and thinking, "holy **** do I ever gotta reload this thing??" Also it reloads mad fast with Active, and the damage and headshot multiplier just are icing on the OP cake.

But it's also got competition with the Hammerburst, and Retro, sure they aren't as versatile, but they have their strengths, i say just drop the clip size.

[im warthriller]

The lancer is completely OP and game breaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-IktM2RmE

Video proves it, if you fail to realize the issue with the gun from watching this video, then don't bother replying, because you're probably stupid.

[slicknslim88]

The lancer is completely OP and game breaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-IktM2RmE

Video proves it, if you fail to realize the issue with the gun from watching this video, then don't bother replying, because you're probably stupid.
yeah that video definatly is an eye opener for just how powerful the Lancer AR is. But the rounds for the Lancer lose power over range, so they might not be nearly as powerful at a distance that the Hammerburst can effectively down at.

[Nothin2Flashy]

It feels fine in most gametypes, its a beast in alpha though, active shots with lancer is like insta death xD idk if I would say its OP, its just VERY strong with active shots, so if you see it, avoid it if you can, stopping power really isnt even needed... imo

plus that video proves nothing, its not on xbox live, its system host, meaning no lag...if anything the clip size should just be brought down to maybe 40 bullets a mag... cause 60 shots is kinda stupid, and that's what makes it a little to strong... because you can shoot and miss and hit for like 15 seconds, so if you think about it, thats what makes it so strong the amount of shots you can keep putting down range, not really so much the normal damage of it..

[JLG023]

all the ****ing guns in this fuc.king game are over powered!!!!

[TryHardNinja]

It's very OP, botomless clip, easy active, does tons more damage with actives, plus it's accessible, and can compete with the gnasher in close range battles! If you don't immediately get close to the person you'll get destroyed because of it's stopping power. It's like QUICK SAND! Lancerfests are so boring, nerf it please epic.

Completely agree with you

[TryHardNinja]

I personally think the AR's are extremely well balanced.

Lancer is nowhere near as strong as the others, but has the rate of fire.
Retro is powerful, but horribly in accurate - only useful for mid/close quarters.
Hammy is really powerful, especially on active, and has great accuracy, but suffers from poor rate of fire/clip size.

If you ask me they're perfect as they are.

Are you kidding me the Lancers active is crazy it almost matches the Retro and have you use the Hammerburst its not as strong as you think and cant even kill a guy with out reloading most of the time

[ObservationSlave]

Am I the only one that thinks the Lancer out classes the other Assault Rifles and its too powerful ? The lancer is strong, but not too strong. It takes much more skill to be good with the hammerburst, but a good hammerburst player can use it very effectively.

[Gnash]

I think it's OP because its a gun that can perform well outside of it's designated range. It's bull**** that people just spam the Lancer even in close quarters where the gnasher should be used. MW3 is less than a week away and I'll be jumping on that bandwagon because this Lancer fest is boring.

Sorry Epic, I supported you since Gears 1 but your on your own until you fix this.

[TryHardNinja]

I think it's OP because its a gun that can perform well outside of it's designated range. It's bull**** that people just spam the Lancer even in close quarters where the gnasher should be used. MW3 is less than a week away and I'll be jumping on that bandwagon because this Lancer fest is boring.

Sorry Epic, I supported you since Gears 1 but your on your own until you fix this.

I agree with you but most of the Lancer kids are CoD fanboys so im hoping all the Lancering will dim down once MW3 comes out