I dont know what the hell you shotgun users are complaining about.

[PAVE LOW FO'SHO YO]

Its still a pain in the ass to main (I mean use consistently as you would a shotgun) the rifles XD.
I mean with Gnasher having the range and accuracy of a freaking sniper
The sawed-off one shot killing everything within its range.

The Lancer is still only really reliable for suppression.
The Hammerburst's decreased clip makes it a hassle to get kills with it.
The Retro is powerful buts its too inaccurate. And since a shotgun actually hits 100% of the time within its range it puts the Retro at a disadvantage when not point blank. But even then it gets outperformed by the Gnasher and Sawed-off due to the sheer damage of them.

Now I will admit its not a Gnasher-fest anymore but to use the rifles for anything more than campyness is a struggle without a good team. Especally since these "dedicated" severs are never on.

[XDS GaryOak]

I used to be like you; used the lancer more than the gnasher in gears 1 and ppl were always *****ing at me for being a ***** and sucking with the shotty and blah blah blah, but really now, what difference does it make? a kill is a kill. deal wit it...

[revitup360]

Me and my friend when we play wingman and ACTUALLY get dedicated servers we tear it up with the HB. Me and him had the higher ground on gridlock and we killed both cole's(not bots) because we downed them each 3 times. Two teammates using the same AR works wonders in this game. Shotty's can't touch two people who are mowing them down with lancers. I use AR's more than shotguns and i demolish with them. I don't care about the kill but i know i am helping the team because i can suppress a target. Also i am the dedicated anti-boomshot/digger on gridlock. Anyone who tries to pick it gets downed and killed by my HB. The AR is a monster but your not supposed to be able to beat shotgunners at close-range with them.

[King Sev3n]

You crying about shotties again= You´re the same guy who said rifles sucked in gears 2.

[bluegreenman]

honestly, I have no problem using my lancer as my main go to gun. It works wonders.

[Fire Kunai]

I switched to the Retro lancer to combat shot gun users who just seem to roll up and blast you once. It's really effective, especially in bursts. Sure the recoil is a little high but I've played Bad Company 2 a lot so I can deal with it.

[Call.Me.PRIEST]

AR's are mad effective in gears of war three sure the shotguns are always gonna be used more because people want quick kills "gibs" because there easy if you hit an opponent who isnt expecting it but nobodys getting close to you if you watch your back and sides and communicate AR's dominate if a team usues it right and for god's sake throw your shotgun down for a power weapon..

[Xx JUKE xX]

It is beyond easy to down with both the retro and HB, I have no idea what the hell you are on about... Maybe learn to shoot fast and control the kick of the retro? Otherwise, these guns will always seem bad to you...

[H0rr0r Sc0pe]

Its still a pain in the ass to main (I mean use consistently as you would a shotgun) the rifles XD.
I mean with Gnasher having the range and accuracy of a freaking sniper
The sawed-off one shot killing everything within its range.

The Lancer is still only really reliable for suppression.
The Hammerburst's decreased clip makes it a hassle to get kills with it.
The Retro is powerful buts its too inaccurate. And since a shotgun actually hits 100% of the time within its range it puts the Retro at a disadvantage when not point blank. But even then it gets outperformed by the Gnasher and Sawed-off due to the sheer damage of them.

Now I will admit its not a Gnasher-fest anymore but to use the rifles for anything more than campyness is a struggle.

Actually the Lancer is deadly when you have active reload and go for headshots

[K1LL STREAK]

Between you and me, I freaking love my snub pistol - it can down a guy almost as fast as my Hammerburst. Rifles and shotguns are both best used by team mates to support each other. I often lay down fire from a distance whilst team mates close in with their shotguns, and quite often a few of my bullets are the deciding factor in shotgun duels.

[King Sev3n]

It is beyond easy to down with both the retro and HB, I have no idea what the hell you are on about... Maybe learn to shoot fast and control the kick of the retro? Otherwise, these guns will always seem bad to you...

I would never trade my shotgun for a power weapon, even if I can get both torque and boomshot.

[Madman Redux]

The Lancer is still only really reliable for suppression.
Reload less often. It's kind of counterintuitive to not reload when you have some downtime, but never reload the lancer unless you have some downtime and are about halfway through the clip. Then, nail the active reload. It becomes a mid-range beast.


The Hammerburst's decreased clip makes it a hassle to get kills with it.
It has plenty of ammo. It currently has the most potential to kill the quickest at any range. Limiting your possible kills per clip to one is reasonable, IMO.


The Retro is powerful buts its too inaccurate. And since a shotgun actually hits 100% of the time within its range it puts the Retro at a disadvantage when not point blank. But even then it gets outperformed by the Gnasher and Sawed-off due to the sheer damage of them.
When firing it in bursts of three, it contends well with an non-active-reloaded lancer at mid-range. Up close, at full auto, aim for the waist. The kick will pull your reticle up to the chest.

And teamwork. Rifles enable teams to work together at range, which is something shotguns won't do.

In all honesty, I'd choose rifles and a decent team that marks enemies and doesn't try to rush power positions over either shotgun any day.

[Afro Zombie]

You crying about shotties again= You´re the same guy who said rifles sucked in gears 2.
You're implying that rifles did not suck in Gears of War 2 = Your an ignorant Gnasher kid who doesn't realize just how weak the rifles were in Gears of War 2.

[King Sev3n]

You're implying that rifles did not suck in Gears of War 2 = Your an ignorant Gnasher kid who doesn't realize just how weak the rifles were in Gears of War 2.

Right kiddo, I love Gnasher but it's terrible players (probably like you) that sucked with the hammerburst/lancer in gears 2 and think they were bad weapons. They were very good and I would know because I used them both throughout my whole gears 2 career.

[Gnasher Master]

gnashes were the funnest part of mp for me but i guess ill have to use AR mostly now

[InkPncl]

gnashes were the funnest part of mp for me but i guess ill have to use AR mostly now

I personally feel that the Lancer is the end all as far as AR's go; it really lets you dictate the pace of any given match if used correctly, but then again you can make that argument for all weapons. What makes this all beautiful is the meta-factor of it all; specifically referring to the adjustments that players will continue to have to make to remain competitive. It's actually quite refreshing.

[King Sev3n]

Gears is unique in that aspect.

[Digimass]

Its still a pain in the ass to main (I mean use consistently as you would a shotgun) the rifles XD.
I mean with Gnasher having the range and accuracy of a freaking sniper
The sawed-off one shot killing everything within its range.

The Lancer is still only really reliable for suppression.
The Hammerburst's decreased clip makes it a hassle to get kills with it.


The Retro is powerful buts its too inaccurate. And since a shotgun actually hits 100% of the time within its range it puts the Retro at a disadvantage when not point blank. But even then it gets outperformed by the Gnasher and Sawed-off due to the sheer damage of them.

Now I will admit its not a Gnasher-fest anymore but to use the rifles for anything more than campyness is a struggle without a good team. Especally since these "dedicated" severs are never on.

I agree completely. I just wish people would see as you see and stop complain about the Sawed off and every other weapon the can compete against a Gnasher. Because i bet most of the time its Gnasher users only doing most of the complaining. First it was the Retro people complained about so Epic weakened it and now its the Sawed off. Where does it end

[__Blaz0__]

Between you and me, I freaking love my snub pistol - it can down a guy almost as fast as my Hammerburst. Rifles and shotguns are both best used by team mates to support each other. I often lay down fire from a distance whilst team mates close in with their shotguns, and quite often a few of my bullets are the deciding factor in shotgun duels.

I too have been using my pistol a lot lately. In fact, start of match I find myself switching to. That way I can always get a couple shots off on someone and help spot for my team. My typical loadout is gnasher, retro. I prefer the power of the retro over the accuracy. Short bursts help keep it in check.

[gold charro]

Its still a pain in the ass to main (I mean use consistently as you would a shotgun) the rifles XD.
I mean with Gnasher having the range and accuracy of a freaking sniper
The sawed-off one shot killing everything within its range.

The Lancer is still only really reliable for suppression.
The Hammerburst's decreased clip makes it a hassle to get kills with it.
The Retro is powerful buts its too inaccurate. And since a shotgun actually hits 100% of the time within its range it puts the Retro at a disadvantage when not point blank. But even then it gets outperformed by the Gnasher and Sawed-off due to the sheer damage of them.

Now I will admit its not a Gnasher-fest anymore but to use the rifles for anything more than campyness is a struggle without a good team. Especally since these "dedicated" severs are never on.

HAHAHAHA Sorry mate but i think there are a lot of games way much better than GOW3 for lancers like you, like COD this was a game for people ho like close combat not an ease kill from 200 yards in the safe of your camp with your 4 friends lancering ass well for me thats been afraid of your oponet and not having any skyll. im a veteran of gow and i ask all the best players what they think about lancers and SOS and funny but the answers are always the same those are noobs weapons and i dont think there is a problem of beeign a noob we all where noobs in some point but whit these weapons you dont need to get beter in your game because its toooo ease to kill. its a shame GOW is loosing its soul but thats fine epic keep hearing only too the noobs and casual players i think they have more objective ideas to improve the game than veterans that have been playng for more time the game thats realy smart.

scuse my super poor inglish

[Iapetos]

The Lancer is a perfectly great weapon to use a main. I have no problem killing the kids using gnasher's.