The Sawed Off is annoying. Not overpowered.

[CommanderWilliams]

The SOS is not overpowered. The Torgue Bow, a one shot kill ANYWHERE that is obscenely accurate, and starts with 6 shots is overpowered. I don't hear anyone *****ing about that.

The SOS is not overpowered. The Gnasher is simply broken as ****. That is why everyone uses the SOS, because it works. The Gnasher has a mind of its own, and does whatever it feels like doing.

The SOS is annoying. Walking around a corner and getting obliterated is infuriating. But people do this with the Gnasher too. What's the difference?

[MaxamisLeonidas]

i always beat people who use the dbs with the gnasher.....gnasher is not broken

[Infernal_dream]

The difference is that I have to aim with the gnasher. If there's anything blue or red on any part of your screen with the sawed off you get a kill. Try killing someone who is on the left side of your screen with your gnasher, wont happen.

The torque bow requires aim. That's why you don't hear *****ing. Derp.

[Epic DOOM]

The SOS is not overpowered. The Torgue Bow, a one shot kill ANYWHERE that is obscenely accurate, and starts with 6 shots is overpowered. I don't hear anyone *****ing about that.
You know why? Because people don't get the option to spawn with a Torque Bow.

[CommanderWilliams]

I don't like the SOS anymore than you guys. I don't use it, and I don't like it. But it isn't overpowered.
Not everyone is a Gnasher beast, and you shouldn't have to be.

[TheFly]

i agree there nothing wrong with the power of the dbs, its its range and the fact that you can walk through a gnasher round
and blast someone away. its ridiculous, think thats why so many people are starting to use it, myself included
would be nice to know whats happening behind the scenes with the servers included

*updated very much needed*

[xICooRsYIx]

wanna know whats even more annoying? the fact that people are still posting these threads... even tho there are thousands... thats right thousands of threads like this already.

We get the DBS sucks... but we dont need to ruin the forums over it.

-xICooRsYIx

[Hartenbergg]

lol whats a sawed off?

[Squeezins]

Well, I disagree. The DBS is overpowered, but not by much!
Nerf it's range just 15% and I think the Majority of complaints would go down.
Nerf it's range 25% and it would be a tie with the gnasher.

[choc d]

You know why? Because people don't get the option to spawn with a Torque Bow.
This......

[Richtophen]

You know why? Because people don't get the option to spawn with a Torque Bow.

not to mention that it requires aiming and the sawed off doesn't.

[MaxamisLeonidas]

not to mention that it requires aiming and the sawed off doesn't.

it barely requires aim....it really isn't that hard to aim with the gnasher

[Hartenbergg]

im serious...WTH is a sawed off. i have never heard of this device..

[Tew Evident]

it barely requires aim....it really isn't that hard to aim with the gnasher


the torque not the gnasher you monstrosity

[MaxamisLeonidas]

the torque not the gnasher you monstrosity

lol my statement is true though

[edwardsa02]

Your right it isnt overpowered. But the range is inconsistently ridiculous. sometimes it will get me from beyond gnasher range, sometimes it wont reach me when i am like 2 feet away. If the range was reduced to melee range like it says then it would be fine and i would think threads about it would end for the most part. It's a ridiculously cheap and easy weapon but you can counter and beat it. I dont like it because i dont like the play style that is required to counter it. I hate using rifles online in gears. its just not fun. It has caused to much camping and AR usage and has made the game not fun for me. Or a old school/classic playlist would obviously work. Then the people that dont like it can play that while the people who use it and like playing against it can continue to play normal.

[Housin]

Wow this guy isnt too smart. the torque bow takes aiming skill and the SOS doesnt. And the SOS is OP at the state that it is now. The gib range is well further then melee range. *Facts*

[Blind Fired]

What they should do is lower the spread to twice the size of gnasher ONLY when you aim. (Gnasher x2 for the special people). Now when you aim your shot/mortar shell gains a slight amount of range. When you blindfire, it should only gib if your close enough to melee the enemy.

Any thoughts?

[chibimike]

I didn't think this thread was serious from the start when someone was comparing a POWERWEAPON to a starting weapon.

[Captiosus]

Times like this really make me wish the guy who had data mined the actual game data hadn't been banned. Numbers don't lie.

Gnasher has a relatively small spread and isn't going to "obliterate" anyone unless you're snuck up to from behind, or the player has an active reload and shoots you in the face in melee range. The SOS, by contrast, has exactly three damage functions: Obliterate (Melee), Obliterate (Short Range out of Melee), No Effect. The spread is massive, as defined in the game variables. The combination of the gib range and the spread means the gun requires no precision whatsoever. If any part of the spread touches an enemy player within the 0 to 6 foot range, it's a gib.

So either one of two things needs to happen, imo: Reduce the spread and keep the range or Keep the spread but reduce the gib range by changing the damage modifier so it only gibs in pure melee range and requires a two piece outside of pure melee range. I'd have no problems with it if, beyond melee range, it did 75% damage and gave me a fighting chance unless the player is adept at quickly swapping back to another weapon to finish off the last 25%.

Edit: And I have NO idea why the OP even mentioned the Torque Bow which requires you to be exposed long enough to aim for an accurate, penetrating shot and has a limited time from maximum aim to trigger release.

[michibee]

I want to take a dump on this threat . hehehe

[CharlieSpleen]

The SOS is not overpowered. The Torgue Bow, a one shot kill ANYWHERE that is obscenely accurate, and starts with 6 shots is overpowered. I don't hear anyone *****ing about that.

The SOS is not overpowered. The Gnasher is simply broken as ****. That is why everyone uses the SOS, because it works. The Gnasher has a mind of its own, and does whatever it feels like doing.

The SOS is annoying. Walking around a corner and getting obliterated is infuriating. But people do this with the Gnasher too. What's the difference?

Go play Gears 1 or 2 and watch how people play with the gnasher. They usually confront you like real gentlemen, they take risk and make the game fun and exciting instead of camping, the pace is much faster, the adrenaline is much higher. Look at the type of gameplay that is promoted by the sawed-off mainly due to its limitations and enhancements. For instance people camp with the sawed-off or try to sneak up behind you because they have to make that one shot count.

The sawed-off was an unnecessary addition to a game that has buffed assault rifles and decreased range on the gnasher. Plus with minimal to no lag in Gears of War 3 the gnasher is substantially easier to use even for new players.

[LocustSlayer81]

The sawed-off was an unnecessary addition to a game

^^^^This

Epic literally made the best game of our generation, but then said... well we really dont wanna go down in history as the greatest game ever... so lets add this Double Barrel Shotgun so at least we have a flaw in our game

[michibee]

Go play Gears 1 or 2 and watch how people play with the gnasher. They usually confront you like real gentlemen, they take risk and make the game fun and exciting instead of camping

this is what i am talking about. GOW3 became a game where DBS pussies are running around hiding and camping.
no more exciting duels.

[Baroni 88]

The SOS is not overpowered. The Torgue Bow, a one shot kill ANYWHERE that is obscenely accurate, and starts with 6 shots is overpowered. I don't hear anyone *****ing about that.

The SOS is not overpowered. The Gnasher is simply broken as ****. That is why everyone uses the SOS, because it works. The Gnasher has a mind of its own, and does whatever it feels like doing.

The SOS is annoying. Walking around a corner and getting obliterated is infuriating. But people do this with the Gnasher too. What's the difference?

I'm sorry, but I disagree with your torque bow comment. It is only accurate if the operator can use it. I am horrible with the torque bow. Sure it hits what its aimed at but the fact that its hard to use equals out its power.

[lilhomeh]

SOS is highly dependable on position and map. For wide open areas, it's crap but for thsoe close quarters areas it's dominant. Which is why people hate is so much, where they gnasher was dominant, it has been replaced by a guaranteed gib machine. I personally don't think it lies within the SOS itself but rather in the gnasher. For example a guy almost one shot downed me with a gnasher from far away, however I point blank shoot a guy with a SOS in the chest and he doesn't even get downed, what do I get? Well it's obvious. It just can be inconsistant, and i've noticed the same problem watching others play. I'm not saying the gnasher sucks, but because of this inconsistancy it is actually contested by lancer, hammer, retro spam fire at medium ranges. I personally will not use a SOS, and stick to the gnasher. I prefer it, but I am still on the fence on the is the SOS op or not(I am trying to see all views before drawing conclusions) . I do have to say it sure as hell pisses me off. The gnasher inconsistency is something i have just noticed, and is just a theory I have; I am not saying that it's 100% what is wrong.

[ExplosiveWalrus]

The sawed-off was an unnecessary addition to a game that has buffed assault rifles and decreased range on the gnasher.
Plus with minimal to no lag in Gears of War 3 the gnasher is substantially easier to use even for new players.

THIS TIMES A GAJILLION. YOU SIR HAVE EARNED YOU AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW A PLACE IN HEAVEN.

Even without the sawed off the amount of Gnasher useage would be just about the same amount as Gears 3's. The Gnasher would still not be the primary weapon as it was in the previous two games.

So yes. No point of the Sawed Off even existing.

[Xx JUKE xX]

The Gnasher is fine... In fact, I love it. I just dislike the fact that its niche is now completely overrun by the DBS and Retro. In nature, the Gnasher as a species would die off entirely right about now...

This isn't to say I haven't done some wonderful things with the Gnasher. Every time I hear the pop of a head flying off and a successful hipfire gib connect as it should, I feel as if I'm a renewed human being. Must be the serene feeling of a gun working still kicking in from bad memories of... Well, "The Other Game" to be frank...

As for the DBS, its an issue of a combination of both being OP and annoying. OP in the fact that its effective range is superior to the Gnasher and can multikill, and annoying because everybody and their mothers know it... They abuse the tactics of lying behind corners in wait, rushing unaware players, and rushing downed players in order to slow down gameplay and turn it into a fest of decisions which usually revolve around either immediate conflict with the DBS or going out of your way to keep your distance from it.

[In Sanitys Defense]

I don't like the SOS anymore than you guys. I don't use it, and I don't like it. But it isn't overpowered.
Not everyone is a Gnasher beast, and you shouldn't have to be.

Yea, with the rifles as powerful as they are, anyone can dominate without ever pressing left on the D-Pad.

[Necromance Her]

LMAO
Torque Bow = POWER (emphasis on "power") weapon
Sawed off = starting weapon, you don't have to fight for it and you don't need skill.

[lawpage17]

The SOS is not overpowered. The Torgue Bow, a one shot kill ANYWHERE that is obscenely accurate, and starts with 6 shots is overpowered. I don't hear anyone *****ing about that.

The SOS is not overpowered. The Gnasher is simply broken as ****. That is why everyone uses the SOS, because it works. The Gnasher has a mind of its own, and does whatever it feels like doing.

The SOS is annoying. Walking around a corner and getting obliterated is infuriating. But people do this with the Gnasher too. What's the difference?

At first I thought the gun was OP. Now I am starting to agree with what you said. p.s the gnasher is not broken just is not cash money like the DBS:)