How would you react to a Free-for-all Playlist? [Archive]

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 04:44 AM

I always wondered what a FFA playlist would be like. Some may ask "Why would Cog kill Cog? Same for Locust?" I asked this too. Then Wingman came to mind and i realized this already happens. lol The problem i saw was the team-based maps/size/spawns/powerweapons. I understand its a Team-Based game so dont get me wrong. I like it the way it is. Take Trenches for example, FFA would be kinda weird. Something larger be better. Also spawning on a Boomshot/Digger would put someone in the lead. I know they wont add this in but i just wanna toss around the idea.

I want you guys to address the pro/cons of this idea like Power Weapons, Spawns/Respawns, Maps...etc

HIT ME

Arkhamz

09-17-2011, 06:23 AM

I would love it!!! But you're gonna get loads of gears fanboys saying crap about it with some rubbish argument like"oh this is gears not call of duty".

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 06:32 AM

I would love it!!! But you're gonna get loads of gears fanboys saying crap about it with some rubbish argument like"oh this is gears not call of duty".

Id like it too...It would give some great variety...for those people that have no friends like me :) Teammates get on everyones nerves some days and they may decide to hit up FFA instead of quiting you know?...its just this concept has problems like spawning near power weapons...it would probably have to be Load Out only..but hey...as long as i dont have to hear that "Revive me!!" from dumb teammates..lol

Arkhamz

09-17-2011, 07:07 AM

Id like it too...It would give some great variety...for those people that have no friends like me :) Teammates get on everyones nerves some days and they may decide to hit up FFA instead of quiting you know?...its just this concept has problems like spawning near power weapons...it would probably have to be Load Out only..but hey...as long as i dont have to hear that "Revive me!!" from dumb teammates..lol
Geez I know right! free for all is my haven in video games

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 07:11 AM

Geez I know right! free for all is my haven in video games

I get you...its hard being a FFA fan in a GOW world hahaha

BLACKOUT in HDV

09-17-2011, 07:45 AM

I think it would be fun

TheJamsh

09-17-2011, 07:45 AM

No. Team game. No FFA. Never will be.

End.

Zaazous

09-17-2011, 07:51 AM

I would love to have that gamemode.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 07:53 AM

No. Team game. No FFA. Never will be.

End.

The idea of a separate Playlist is to give players choice and not force game modes onto Players. FFA is Wingman minus a teammate and plus an enemy. The difference isnt dramatic. you have 5v5..2v8...1v9 isnt a bad add...

eVo suicide

09-17-2011, 07:56 AM

Would be different, good for when you keep getting teamed up with idiots

Arkhamz

09-17-2011, 08:05 AM

No. Team game. No FFA. Never will be.

End.
Was expecting a comment like that, no one will be forced to play it.

Locust BarmyArmy

09-17-2011, 08:17 AM

Been suggested a gazillion times to be honest, and Epic still havn't added it...

They like to keep this series as team based as possible, and FFA is the complete opposite of that. I highly doubt it will be added to Gears 3, if they even intended to add anymore gametypes in the first place.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 08:19 AM

Swedish Dante

09-17-2011, 11:10 AM

Like before on all the other threads on this subject, FFA don't work in Gears because its a freaking team based game. Sure in sucky CoD there it works cuz you don't need team mates cuz all your weapons are broken and op. But no it don't and will not ever work in a Gears game. If you wanna play FFA then host an private match with friendly fire like all the other CoD *****

IPuRpLe 904

09-17-2011, 11:19 AM

I would like it. But the hardcore fan boys are going to tell you EPIC said no already and they just follow what EPIC saids, they don't speak for themselves.

JIBA JABA

09-17-2011, 11:54 AM

It wouldn't bother me if there was this game type and I can see why people would like to have the option to play it, but I wouldn't play it because I prefer team games.

S.A.F

09-17-2011, 01:05 PM

naw I'm fine with Gears the way it is

IDeadWork

09-17-2011, 01:24 PM

I don't know...I don't think it would work...but you ask me and wingman really doesn't work right either lol

Basically it's wingman by yourself...

Gims

09-17-2011, 01:25 PM

An Erection. I Want A Free For Yee

ColeTrain420

09-17-2011, 01:50 PM

i think it would be really fun everyone kill each other

xTeddyG

09-17-2011, 01:57 PM

Gears of War has been and will always be a team based game.

IDeadWork

09-17-2011, 04:32 PM

Gears of War has been and will always be a team based game.

Tbh after going back to gears 1 for awhile now I realize gears 1 had very little team oriented play. Ppl fight over weapons and quit...if you use a lancer you get kicked by host and if it's ranked the host will drop 90% of the time if you play outside of the "respectable" way of playing in the gears 1 purists eyes (which IMO is much less competitive and skillful)

The game lacks team based anything and is really just a fun run and gun shooter...fun minus the fact that I haven't finished a SINGLE game without a teammate or a member of the opposing team quitting.

Basically what I'm saying is...the game is transforming more and more into a competitive team based shooter...wasn't ALWAYS that way. Proof is just play gears 1...it was always how it is now.

NFI

09-17-2011, 04:37 PM

Tbh after going back to gears 1 for awhile now I realize gears 1 had very little team oriented play. Ppl fight over weapons and quit...if you use a lancer you get kicked by host and if it's ranked the host will drop 90% of the time if you play outside of the "respectable" way of playing in the gears 1 purists eyes (which IMO is much less competitive and skillful)

The game lacks team based anything and is really just a fun run and gun shooter...fun minus the fact that I haven't finished a SINGLE game without a teammate or a member of the opposing team quitting.

Basically what I'm saying is...the game is transforming more and more into a competitive shooter...wasn't ALWAYS that way. Proof is just play gears 1...it was always how it is now.

I dont think this is exclusive to gears however you make a valid point. Every game seems to be this way. That is why I try to stay with a group of ppl I know while doing ranked, because a group that does work as a team is going to win most of the time.

IDeadWork

09-17-2011, 04:41 PM

I dont think this is exclusive to gears however you make a valid point. Every game seems to be this way. That is why I try to stay with a group of ppl I know while doing ranked, because a group that does work as a team is going to win most of the time.

Yea the other day 8 of us found a ranked match together ... First to 13 and it was a blast. I feel like that or player match is the only way to go with gears 1...searxhing random ranked matches can turn out to be a waste of time.

Ferp

09-17-2011, 04:47 PM

Maybe if the only weapons were grenades, snipers, scorchers, and pistols.

Shooterking69

09-17-2011, 04:51 PM

meh sounds good i guess but i don't see epic making it happen thought :(

IDemonic IPayne

09-17-2011, 06:21 PM

u can do ffa in gears 2... just do a custom wing man with five players on diff teams and no bots....

TheGnasher

09-17-2011, 08:42 PM

Was expecting a comment like that, no one will be forced to play it.

I hope your realize that Gears is a TEAM game. Wingman is so terrible unless you have a buddy to play with but that's pretty rare.

This is why you do Custom Match, FF on , ETC.

You say you want FFA yet you don't think of the spawn/camping it causes. I can easily camp by frags and retro/s.o since I know there won't be any team work involved so people wont have back up. It's dumb.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 09:31 PM

I hope your realize that Gears is a TEAM game. Wingman is so terrible unless you have a buddy to play with but that's pretty rare.

This is why you do Custom Match, FF on , ETC.

You say you want FFA yet you don't think of the spawn/camping it causes. I can easily camp by frags and retro/s.o since I know there won't be any team work involved so people wont have back up. It's dumb.

"You say you want FFA yet you don't think of the spawn/camping it causes."

you didnt even read anything...try again and i might reply with something sensible

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 09:33 PM

Gears of War has been and will always be a team based game.

FFA is only 15% different from Wingman..doesnt deviate dramatically...just T-h-i-n-k

NFI

09-17-2011, 09:40 PM

Yea the other day 8 of us found a ranked match together ... First to 13 and it was a blast. I feel like that or player match is the only way to go with gears 1...searxhing random ranked matches can turn out to be a waste of time.

Do you have Gears 3 already? I am getting anxious. For the first time going into a shooter I feel like the weapons are about as balanced as any weapon can be.

When I play with my friends I work one of two roles depending on game type, and I loved the support role with the Lancer in the beta.

None of the weapons felt too strong. Me want game. LOL.

TheGnasher

09-17-2011, 09:55 PM

"You say you want FFA yet you don't think of the spawn/camping it causes."

you didnt even read anything...try again and i might reply with something sensible

This is why you do Custom Match, FF on , ETC.

It still stands. You don't understand that it just WONT work. No matter how much you ask for it. Stay in Custom Matches. I don't need to play it, yes but neither does anyone else for that matter when the game is heavily focusing on TDM.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 10:00 PM

It still stands. You don't understand that it just WONT work. No matter how much you ask for it. Stay in Custom Matches. I don't need to play it, yes but neither does anyone else for that matter when the game is heavily focusing on TDM.

What forces you to play a playlist? You are being close-minded and resistant to Logic...i said they wouldnt add it...i wanted to toss the idea around..All games started as Team-Based...so the change isnt inconceivable

TheGnasher

09-17-2011, 10:06 PM

What forces you to play a playlist? You are being close-minded and resistant to Logic...i said they wouldnt add it...i wanted to toss the idea around..All games started as Team-Based...so the change isnt inconceivable
I didn't say I was forced to play any mode. I said , I don't HAVE to play it, however neither does anybody else when the real mode is TDM which is what they said would be the main mode they are focused on. It's pretty much the opposite of what FFA. Which is why , if they did implement it, it would possibly be a disaster. So, for FFA fans like yourself, would you be DISSAPOINTED if it failed? Yes. But you have your mode now, so you got what you wished for. Now instead of producing maps/skins/character DLC, we have a messed up game mode that would need MORE time from Epic with tweaking and such. They listen to the community and the majority of the community knows that Gears is a Team Based game and FFA would just not work.

Like I said, keep it in Custom, theres your FFA.

Monst3r x

09-17-2011, 10:07 PM

I've wanted it since the first Gears.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 10:07 PM

I didn't say I was forced to play any mode. I said , I don't HAVE to play it, however neither does anybody else when the real mode is TDM which is what they said would be the main mode they are focused on. It's pretty much the opposite of what FFA. Which is why , if they did implement it, it would possibly be a disaster. So, for FFA fans like yourself, would you be DISSAPOINTED if it failed? Yes. But you have your mode now, so you got what you wished for. Now instead of producing maps/skins/character DLC, we have a messed up game mode that would need MORE time from Epic with tweaking and such. They listen to the community and the majority of the community knows that Gears is a Team Based game and FFA would just not work.

Like I said, keep it in Custom, theres your FFA.

FFA would work just as well as Wingman

Super Vegito

09-17-2011, 10:34 PM

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 10:37 PM

I'd personally love a FFA type playlist. That way I can play it when I'm rolling solo while waiting for friends to get on. It's good because I won't have to worry about stupid teammates or anything and I would focus on me getting kills.

You Sir are Logical...lol unlike most of these kids...They all commit 2 Fallacies, Hasty Generalization and Appealing to the Natural.

TeeJay0221

09-17-2011, 10:59 PM

Hell Yeah! sounds like a great idea.

TaoTang

09-17-2011, 11:00 PM

I probably wouldn't play it at all.

No teamwork in Gears just feels like I am playing the game wrong.

LigHt116

09-17-2011, 11:01 PM

I probably wouldn't play it at all.

No teamwork in Gears just feels like I am playing the game wrong.

I get you...this would be for people with no friends like me :)

THECRAZYBERSERKER

09-18-2011, 04:57 AM

Gears doesn't need free for all, only cod fans and halo fans want that plus new fans.

LigHt116

09-18-2011, 05:02 AM

Gears doesn't need free for all, only cod fans and halo fans want that plus new fans.

I Played since 06..no one said it needed it..it would be a useful addition to those who have no friends like meee lol..

Nayr

09-18-2011, 05:10 AM

FFA would be retarded if the respawns are just as bad as Gears 2.

LigHt116

09-18-2011, 05:13 AM

FFA would be retarded if the respawns are just as bad as Gears 2.

I think you should have a pool of lives like TDM..three lives?..idk...and have a smart complex respawn system...

Nerf The Bayonet

09-18-2011, 05:27 AM

It's a good idea, yeah. Whether it will work out or not, we can only theorize. I hope that Epic are like Bungie in that they constantly change their playlists round depending on what the community is saying.

LigHt116

09-18-2011, 05:28 AM

Z33NOF

09-18-2011, 10:19 AM

I remember playing custom matches in Gears 1 with Friendly Fire turned on so we could have a pseudo FFA. Haha. By and large, however, I wouldn't want a FFA playlist in Gears. It doesn't really fit with the theme of the game which is (suppose to be, anyways) teamwork, and unity. Working together watching each others' backs and fighting as a squad against the larger threat.

That being said, if enough people wanted it I suppose there's nothing wrong with them having the option for it. I know I'd never play it though. I love FFA in other games. Those games generally revolve around one particular guy who's just a general b.a.m.f capable of fighting against a whole armada alone. Those games are usually also faster pace which I find fits the chaotic nature of the mode. My 2 cents anyways.

Gears of Daniel

09-18-2011, 10:48 AM

Yeah, sounds good.

CharlieSpleen

09-18-2011, 11:13 AM

Here are all of the playlist so far that have very large support groups:

- Oldschool/Hardcore playlist

- MLG playlist

- Longshot only playlist

- Torque Bow playlist

- No gnasher playlist

- Free For All

- Capture the Flag

- Disarm the bomb playlist

- Large scale 10 v 10 team deathmatch

- Guardian

Some of those playlist, Guardian, MLG, OldSchool, Disarm the Bomb, have a ridiculous amount of supporters and yet Epic is not going to add those playlist. I don't
think FFA stands a chance.

Undead Paradox

09-18-2011, 01:06 PM

How would I react to it? I wouldn't care.
Is it a good idea?
Not to me.

FLaW ChRiS

02-18-2012, 11:00 PM

I would love it!!! But you're gonna get loads of gears fanboys saying crap about it with some rubbish argument like"oh this is gears not call of duty".Idk, it feels like a 3rd person call of duty to me.

bjo510

02-18-2012, 11:22 PM

I would completely boycott it. No offense but look at it like this.

- Back in the days of Gears of war 2 everyone played Guardian because there was no Team Deathmatch. Epic puts Team Deathmatch in Gears of war 3, and it instantly effects the learning curve. Making it so players didn't have to sweat thinking about being killed and forced to watch the ghost camera for minutes until the next match. In turn, giving most players leway to lower their guard.

- Now... think of the potential things that might have stopped Epic from putting Free-For-All in the last to installments. Cogs killing cogs doesn't make much sense, and Locusts killing locusts makes no sense. The only way this would make sense is if they implemented a sort of Bioshock'ish multiplayer, where we're all playing as Stranded, and even then, there is no reason as to why the stranded would be killing each other. Also, take into account the respawning system that they have in place. Maps like Mercy, Clocktower, and the upcomming Raven Down would be way to small for any kind of Free-For-All game-play because we would all be respawning in front of each other. Which is a big no-no in any FFA game-type.

If you want to see what I mean - invite all of your gears friends to a private lobby, and turn friendly-fire on. Then tell your buddies that it's everyone vs everyone. Me and my buddy's do it all the time for sh*ts and giggles. I can't really describe it fully. It just... doesn't work well.

I wouldn't care much if they did add Free-For-all, the same way I don't care that they added Alpha, or Team Deathmatch.

Now....the upcoming Guardian re-introduction is another story....

MadxJoKeRx69

02-19-2012, 12:34 AM

I've talked about the idea of FFA in Gears 3 with some of my friends before, and I've always thought that it'd be interesting to see how Gears 3 played with a FFA gametype. Just bc COG would be killing other COG, and locust killing other locust doesn't mean jack sh** (I mean, look at Halo for ex: you're pretty much always killing other spartans, but no one ever says anything about that). It's multiplayer, not story. Therefore, it doesn't matter if it makes sense to kill this person bc you're "supposed" to be on the same team. That's my opinion at least.

Now, I can see where balance would be pretty much the only issue in this game type, with weapon spawns and all. But that'd be pretty easy to counter.

1 of 2 things could be done about this:

1.) Make it to where the weapons on the map don't spawn for about 20-30 seconds after the start, that way everyone has a chance to fight for them.
2.) Make the scoring system more like wingman, where you have to get maybe around 15 kills to win, but you only get 1 life per round. This way not only would it take multiple rounds for the match to finish, but everyone would get at least one or two chances to spawn by a power weapon.

That's my take on FFA in Gears 3. I'd really like to see Epic put some kind of FFA playlist in one of the weekend events at least once, but I won't be too surprised if they don't since it seems like most people aren't too fond of the idea..