Would you like a TRUE Capture the Flag game type? Over 1,300 Supporters!!!!

[DatSkumDog]

No CTL is good enough for me but its only fun when you are playing with a team of freinds and not bunch of randoms because chances are the leader thinks hes a pro and rushes in and gets captured.

[james288gto]

No CTL is good enough for me but its only fun when you are playing with a team of freinds and not bunch of randoms because chances are the leader thinks hes a pro and rushes in and gets captured.

Well then you would have no problem if the rest of us could play this game type? Personally I would play CTL and this non stop with the odd TDM match thrown in.

[Porshapwr]

Good looking out guys. Up to 317 and almost 80% approval. I think we would be well over 80% if it weren't for people simply voting no just to vote no.

[Medevacs wXs]

Im back to bump some more!!!!!

[xIRONx]

This is good.
We would need something like this if Guardian or Submission doesn't return because as if right now, CTL isn't doing anything.

[Porshapwr]

This is good.
We would need something like this if Guardian or Submission doesn't return because as if right now, CTL isn't doing anything.


Agreed 100%. We need a solid objective game mode badly.

[o0 Mordecai 0o]

Hell to the yes. That is all.

[SeniorDaddio63]

I love the idea. Thanks God there are whole batteries of Epic employees to do the math.

[JJRR_Esq]

I am a long time Halo fanatic, and my absolute favorite gametype in every game is multiflag. I would add, though, that I think it has bigger implications than just providing the CTF fans with their favorite objective option. In fact, I think it would do something for the game that no objective gametype currently does for CTF: stretch the goddamn field of battle. TDM is a bit formulaic, in the sense that everyone storms the power weapons off spawn. The rest of the game is spent either camping the PWs if you were successful, or trying to breach if you were not. KOTH varies the locus of the battle, but does so systematically and winds up being a cluster****. In CTF, you can't simply stand on the boardwalk with longshot the whole game if you want to be effective, because a lot of the fight will be taking place elsewhere.

With that said, the maps are not even close to ideal for CTF. I agree with the earlier poster that said squarish design would be an issue, but it is much more than that. Gears spawns (the natural flag bases in any CTF) are not diametrically opposed, which might render an entire portion of a map useless On top of that, some spawn points are designed to feed respawns out safely, but not in such a way as to be effectively defended. I think the Gears style of play is best suited to larger (e.g., 8-on-8) CTF matches, played on slightly larger maps, and possibly incorporating the 2-flag slayer innovation from Reach.

But done right, how could I possibly vote against this? I'm definitely for it.

[All My Rage]

CTF would be sick as hell in Gears. And for those bringing up CTL, CTL plays NOTHING like CTF.

[Bossgdt09]

CTL is causing me too much pain to play and I'm totally for this gametype. We just need to find a way to balance the maps. Once a team starts spawn camping then it'll be easy for the team that is getting screwed to just wait out the spawn switch.

[TheThirdFaction]

I don't really care for the idea. One of the things I love about Gears is it's unique take on different game types. I don't want the same game types I see everywhere else.

[Porshapwr]

I am a long time Halo fanatic, and my absolute favorite gametype in every game is multiflag. I would add, though, that I think it has bigger implications than just providing the CTF fans with their favorite objective option. In fact, I think it would do something for the game that no objective gametype currently does for CTF: stretch the goddamn field of battle. TDM is a bit formulaic, in the sense that everyone storms the power weapons off spawn. The rest of the game is spent either camping the PWs if you were successful, or trying to breach if you were not. KOTH varies the locus of the battle, but does so systematically and winds up being a cluster****. In CTF, you can't simply stand on the boardwalk with longshot the whole game if you want to be effective, because a lot of the fight will be taking place elsewhere.

With that said, the maps are not even close to ideal for CTF. I agree with the earlier poster that said squarish design would be an issue, but it is much more than that. Gears spawns (the natural flag bases in any CTF) are not diametrically opposed, which might render an entire portion of a map useless On top of that, some spawn points are designed to feed respawns out safely, but not in such a way as to be effectively defended. I think the Gears style of play is best suited to larger (e.g., 8-on-8) CTF matches, played on slightly larger maps, and possibly incorporating the 2-flag slayer innovation from Reach.

But done right, how could I possibly vote against this? I'm definitely for it.

Great post and as an avid Halo player myself, I agree.



CTF would be sick as hell in Gears. And for those bringing up CTL, CTL plays NOTHING like CTF.

It certainly doesn't.


CTL is causing me too much pain to play and I'm totally for this gametype. We just need to find a way to balance the maps. Once a team starts spawn camping then it'll be easy for the team that is getting screwed to just wait out the spawn switch.

Agreed.


I don't really care for the idea. One of the things I love about Gears is it's unique take on different game types. I don't want the same game types I see everywhere else.

I hear ya but there's no reason they couldn't put a Gears spin on CTF. CTL simply doesn't get it done.

[Porshapwr]

A CTF mode? Wow that sounds amazing. I'm in 100%.




:cool:

[SovereignXI]

Capture the flag might be nice but I want assassination from gears 1 I think it was renamed to guardian in 2

[Rossinio]

A proper Capture the Flag game mode would be pretty good. None of this "Capture the Leader" or Meat Flag businees. To rags on a pole is good enough! I just think that if you reduced the running speed too much with the flag, your opponents would be able to easily catch up to you - particularly if they've just respawned.
I also like the idea of an Assault Game mode, too.

[NearlyNumb]

I 100% support this. CTF is awesome in every FPS I have played it on. Gears of war 3 is awesome. What's missing here? CTF mode on Gears 3. Bring it plox.

[Porshapwr]

A proper Capture the Flag game mode would be pretty good. None of this "Capture the Leader" or Meat Flag businees. To rags on a pole is good enough! I just think that if you reduced the running speed too much with the flag, your opponents would be able to easily catch up to you - particularly if they've just respawned.
I also like the idea of an Assault Game mode, too.


I 100% support this. CTF is awesome in every FPS I have played it on. Gears of war 3 is awesome. What's missing here? CTF mode on Gears 3. Bring it plox.

Agreed and agreed. :)

[Porshapwr]

340 and almost past 4 to 1 positive. :D

[Porshapwr]

We've hit 4 to 1 finally after people were voting no just to say no. This idea is loved by many Epic..................

[AvgStaR]

Great idea! Most people will probably enjoy this. :)

[Jazztastic]

CTF is a good idea but i'm sure Epic has already thought this through and you have to look at other problems with make a CTF gametype. Gears unlike other games with CTF (mainly COD or BF) is very omni-dimensional in the way that your feet literally never leave the ground of the map, unlike in other games where you have elevation and speed boosters this game doesn't have the same elements that are in other shooter games. Although this sounds like a good idea to have a CTF game mode, it would only bring out more complainers and protesters than even the SOS has brought out.

[Porshapwr]

CTF is a good idea but i'm sure Epic has already thought this through and you have to look at other problems with make a CTF gametype. Gears unlike other games with CTF (mainly COD or BF) is very omni-dimensional in the way that your feet literally never leave the ground of the map, unlike in other games where you have elevation and speed boosters this game doesn't have the same elements that are in other shooter games. Although this sounds like a good idea to have a CTF game mode, it would only bring out more complainers and protesters than even the SOS has brought out.


It would be unique for sure. But to your statement about SOS, this is a game mode. Nobody is forced to play it if they don't like it. :)

[Porshapwr]

lol someone just voted no and rated the thread 1 star..............but didn't post. Thanks buddy!!

[Knux57]

Speed in this game would mean flag captures in under 5 seconds. Submission would be better.

[Notorious]

Speed in this game would mean flag captures in under 5 seconds. Submission would be better.

Carrying the Flag shouldn't let you sprint at all.

[sinfull bliss]

i gotta admit, this would be fun, only quarrel i have is i don't think the maps are quite big enough for a true CTF experience, idk though just my opinion.

[Medevacs wXs]

Speed in this game would mean flag captures in under 5 seconds. Submission would be better.

We would want them to make to where you run as if you were holding a boomshield.

[Porshapwr]

The point I keep trying to make is, it's obvious that play testing would need to be done to balance the mode. People posting no need to stop just imagining the TDM game mechanics with a flag thrown on the map. Obvious changes would need to be made. :)

[Porshapwr]

Almost 360. Let's keep it going.

[Blurrybuffalo]

Very nicely written Porshapwr. I believe this could totally work for gears. I definitely could see some epic team battles going on in a CTF gametype. Ranked matches would be crazy! Two 5 man teams strategically playing a CTF match in gears of war would be nothing but epic.

I also agree with all the suggestions. Don't know about the melee rang for the lag though. How big would it be and how big of a swing radius would it have? Bigger/smaller then the longshot?

also having locust and cog having different execution with the flag would be a nice touch. Maybe the cog stick the pole in the back slamming them down and then crub stomping them??

and the locust could maybe do the same thing but a little more intensely. maybe instead of slaming the cog to the ground the pole goes through him leaving the cog in the downed position and the locust either kicks the head off or pulles the head off like some mortal kombat finishing move!?!?!?!

[Porshapwr]

Very nicely written Porshapwr. I believe this could totally work for gears. I definitely could see some epic team battles going on in a CTF gametype. Ranked matches would be crazy! Two 5 man teams strategically playing a CTF match in gears of war would be nothing but epic.

I also agree with all the suggestions. Don't know about the melee rang for the lag though. How big would it be and how big of a swing radius would it have? Bigger/smaller then the longshot?

also having locust and cog having different execution with the flag would be a nice touch. Maybe the cog stick the pole in the back slamming them down and then crub stomping them??

and the locust could maybe do the same thing but a little more intensely. maybe instead of slaming the cog to the ground the pole goes through him leaving the cog in the downed position and the locust either kicks the head off or pulles the head off like some mortal kombat finishing move!?!?!?!

Thank you. I don't think the radius could be too large due to the CQC nature of Gears battles. Otherwise it would be too easy to get kills with.

Executions could be anything. As flag carrier you would obviously be taking a huge risk wasting your time so I think it should be worth extra XP personally. :)

[Acronos]

love the idea man! hopefully epics will make this happen :)

[God Complex]

I love CTF and I would love it even more if it was in Gears!

[Blades of Grave]

I gotta say, I would play the hell out of this.

[Exploits!]

I don't understand why anyone would vote no. It's all about variety and you're not gonna be forced to play it.

[TheHarbinger]

Someone make this happen

[Eliguy5]

I think this would be really fun! I dont think the flag carriers movement should be slowed though. An the flag as a melee weapon is a good idea to. It should have a retro blad or something on it so u can retro charge to

[dh2fast4u]

I think this would be really fun! I dont think the flag carriers movement should be slowed though. An the flag as a melee weapon is a good idea to. It should have a retro blad or something on it so u can retro charge to


YES YES YES!



Hi there! Can you guys plz help me pass a DM & CTF playlist for GoW3, link down here.


Thank you!

http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/853268-Deathmatch-Play-List!

[Cobryza]

Quite happy the way CTL is now. We have enough playlists as it is.

[BIN0CULARz]

YES! Or some kind of Thrasball game type... LoLz Anyway, if it were CTF, I'd say it'll have to be neutral flag.

[calebrocker7]

we could use thrashballs!

[Porshapwr]

Thanks everyone! And yeah, not sure why people vote no. It's a habit on this forum - "If I don't like it then it shouldn't be"

[StCortez8693]

yes yes yes i would play this you make it sound great, imagine spiking the flag into an enemys head while down for the execution. awsome

[dh2fast4u]

yes yes yes i would play this you make it sound great, imagine spiking the flag into an enemys head while down for the execution. awsome


Yes it will yes it will...

[dh2fast4u]

Go here and vote for DM & CTF playlist thanks guys!


http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/853268-Deathmatch-Play-List!

[Porshapwr]

Yes, yes it would. :)

[Porshapwr]

Passed 380............let's get past 400 now.

[TheJamsh]

No. so many times even infinity couldn't tell you.

We have CTL, thats the gears equivalent of capture the flag and thats as close as your getting. Epic have already said they think Gears running around with a flag would look stupid, its not happening.

[zLoG1C]

i love this idea. I don't see why a classic CTF wouldn't work in Gears. Dunno if they can update Gears 3 to support this but if so I would love to see it. CTF has always been my favorite gametype.

[Porshapwr]

No. so many times even infinity couldn't tell you.

We have CTL, thats the gears equivalent of capture the flag and thats as close as your getting. Epic have already said they think Gears running around with a flag would look stupid, its not happening.


Because Epic designs games based on how a character would look holding a flag? You kidding me?


And obviously there is a lot of support for it.

[t bird6969]

If Gears had capture the flag, I feel they would have to ENTIRELY eliminate the respawn countdown clock, otherwise it would just be easy captures if everybody dies and has to wait 14 seconds to jump back in.

[Porshapwr]

If Gears had capture the flag, I feel they would have to ENTIRELY eliminate the respawn countdown clock, otherwise it would just be easy captures if everybody dies and has to wait 14 seconds to jump back in.


It would need to be reworked for the game mode definitely.

[IXxRolandxXI]

I've been thinking about all the different things the characters will be able to say when they cap a flag or ice the carrier. The possibilities are endless!

[Porshapwr]

I've been thinking about all the different things the characters will be able to say when they cap a flag or ice the carrier. The possibilities are endless!


No doubt lol

[Spots on]

get rid of capture the leader and implement this and put Gardian back in the mix as well. sounds good.

[Venomicidal]

Why yes, I would like this.

[Porshapwr]

get rid of capture the leader and implement this and put Gardian back in the mix as well. sounds good.

I already said that if they added CTF and changed CTL back to Guardian, I may seriously play nothing else.



Why yes, I would like this.

:)

[SWATSTRIKE]

You have another supporter. While I was reading, you really had me excited as if it were really coming or something! :)

[Hannah]

it would be a nice mode and i voted yes, but i don't see it ever happening and that doesn't bother me much

[iFury]

A team wins by eliminating all the players of the opposing team or capturing the opposing team's flag and returning it to their own base. PaintBall Rules for a Execution/CTF Gametype in GoW3

I obviously said no already some time ago because a respawn ctf in gow just doesn't sound right at all is useless and doesn't go with the game. Maybe if it was how i just stated it could work. Still don't see it happening though,

[Porshapwr]

We've hit 400. :)

[Threnody]

Great job with the thread Porsha. :)

[Porshapwr]

Great job with the thread Porsha. :)


Thanks bro. Gonna keep at it. If nothing else, it will show Epic just how much interest there is a true CTF mode (along with other objective games). :)

[Porshapwr]

Now that we've passed 400, let's hit 500. :D

[Porshapwr]

Just thinking about CTF on Azura. Put the flag up where the Mulcher is and have to get it back to spawn? Given the layout and close quarters, man that would be a blast.

[NuMbA1PaCkFaN]

Def would play this...but i really wish they would have just left guardian on instead of CTL

[Luigi649]

while it seems interesting they should rename the current ctf back to gears 2 submission if they do this. Although id like to have modes like guardian,annex.

[Porshapwr]

Def would play this...but i really wish they would have just left guardian on instead of CTL

Agree there too. Ideally I would love to see both Guardian and CTF. This game needs some objective playlists badly.


while it seems interesting they should rename the current ctf back to gears 2 submission if they do this. Although id like to have modes like guardian,annex.

At first I didn't know what you meant. But yes, we don't want Submission. I'm referring more to a new game type; a TRUE Capture the Flag.

[Porshapwr]

Seriously?



Yes.

[Medevacs wXs]

Bump for true CTF!!!!!

[pigdestroyer01]

Yes! It would be amazing but they would need to make it a high score to win cuz te maps are very small unless the enemy team are camping by there flag or the flag point to win then it would be easy to win I think! But I loved unreal ctf and sice epic made it im sure they can make it amazing for gears!

[Porshapwr]

Indeed. Thanks for the support. :)

[Porshapwr]

Need to get to 500!

[xJampire]

Great idea

[BenUK1989]

Must admit when i first saw your post i was gonna vote against it as i just couldn't imagine a Capture the flag gamemode working in gears but i read your post and youv'e changed my mind, you have my vote :)

[Reirvel]

It looks like a lot to the Submission game type in Gears of War 2? But I think it could be fun.

[Porshapwr]

Must admit when i first saw your post i was gonna vote against it as i just couldn't imagine a Capture the flag gamemode working in gears but i read your post and youv'e changed my mind, you have my vote :)

Thanks mate. I was hoping to get people to at least envision it before voting while providing reasons why it could work if done correctly.


"Gears isn't the game where you run around with a Flag".... yeah you run around with pink weapons instead.. -__-

No kidding right. You know why the pink guns are allowed? Money.

So in that case, Epic we will PAY MONEY for CTF DLC.


It looks like a lot to the Submission game type in Gears of War 2? But I think it could be fun.

Oh god no. Submission was awful. It took the basic concepts of CTF...................and ruined them entirely. lmao

[jashin]

I'm amazed so many people are up for it, I thought I'd be one of the few with the small amount of people that do play objective in Gears, just going by the small amount of people in CTL compared to TDM, hell even KoTH isn't that big compared to TDM...i blame the SOS, yay for breaking and and getting a multikill! (inb4 adapt/noob)

[Reirvel]

I hope that Epic will see your topic and will listen the players.

[kboo521]

Remember how submission turned out in gears 2?

[WillYouBillMe]

Remember how submission turned out in gears 2?

Don't you ever, don't you ever put submission and CTF in the same category

[Porshapwr]

I hope that Epic will see your topic and will listen the players.

One can hope.


Oh and thanks everyone. Please also rate the thread 5 stars. One of the guys who didn't like it and argued with me was very mature and purposely gave it 1 star.

[Porshapwr]

Don't you ever, don't you ever put submission and CTF in the same category


You beat me to it by about 10 seconds. Submission is NOT CTF. Hence my topic wording of "TRUE" CTF game type.

[GRAE SKYZ]

I like it!

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[Dio94]

I'm for , only if it doesn't divide a lot the players in different modes. Actually there are some modes where nobody played . With a new game mode, it could be worth

[xTZAx]

I would love it. The problem is that the maps weren't designed with this game type in mind. Something like Sandbar could work because it's long and open. Gridlock would be perfect. But Oldtown and Checkout? I don't think so.

[kma321]

Sounds like good fun idea that could work with alot of gow2 maps but horrible idea for gow3 maps. Gow3 maps are just to small for ctf gametype. If flag carrier wall slides they can easly get to otherside map in 10-20sec. So its highly unlikly that no matter how many supporters you get for the idea that epic will actually do it. They would have to add new maps that are much bigger for it to work and their maps are design to be long enough for rifles but small enough so shotguns are key element in gameplay and also keeps the action going with smaller maps. They tried ctf on gow2 with submission which made the flag cap the farthest point from you to cap and not many people played it. Closest your going get to ctf in this game is ctl which is the same concept really if you think about it. Bad team or bad leader aka no leader protection or leader runs out to them, is the only problem/difference in ctl from ctf concepts really.

[SpikeyNL]

I would love to see this happen! I also like all the other game modes, but hey! More modes = more fun! I myself love CTF most of the times i play it with different games.

[spjza80tt]

It would be nice but I would love a Guardian game type even more... maybe it can be called Guardian or something like that

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[Intuitive Soul]

Kma, they could make it so you have to bring 2 flags back to win a round to prevent it from ending too quick.

[Zamochy]

Well, there are a few issues with CTF that could turn up. However there are benefits. For example:
Ups:
-We could have a rather interesting mode to bring back old style gaming
-Bring new tactics to the "table" to have more fun
-New things to do in-game and encourage even more team effort

Downs:
-Could cause server issues (could be fixed after testing)
-Will cause an up-roar over change to the game. (Brought up before here I believe?)
-Many would disagree with the style of play for many play as lone wolf

Personally, I support this idea. I would love an objective based game like this. Though I think gears would be better based around an assault game mode than a CTF? (Due to the inequality of some maps. Open for judgment on that one.)

[aweZm]

Should collapse TDM and CTL gametypes for Warzone, Execution, CTF, and KotH. No offense to CTL fans, I just know not that many people play it compared to KotH and I'm sure they would want to drop an objective gametype to add another in CTF.

[Browning XT]

I think a capture the flag would be a cool addition to Gears.

[eeZbub]

anything that isn't another deathmatch variant would be worth a go.

a nice 'gears' touch would be that if you down the flag-carrier and you pick up the dropped flag - a flag execution would be a nice [btutal] addition.

[eeZbub]

anything that isn't another deathmatch variant would be worth a go.

a nice 'gears' touch would be that if you down the flag-carrier and you pick up the dropped flag - a flag execution would be a nice [btutal] addition.

[james288gto]

anything that isn't another deathmatch variant would be worth a go.

a nice 'gears' touch would be that if you down the flag-carrier and you pick up the dropped flag - a flag execution would be a nice [btutal] addition.

Yeah I tend to agree mate. This game needs more/better objectives modes.

[Patholog1K4L]

I love CTF, was my favorite mode in UT. However I dont think that a majority of the gears maps are large enough for it. It would be too quick on maps like overpass, check out, trenches. Perhaps on larger maps like Azura (but its not symmetrical so there are balancing issues) or on a stretched out map such as Gridlock it would work. It'd be great if they could make it viable, but honestly I would rather have them dedicate their time / resources to fixing current problems or adding new maps.

[John Birdflu]

An objective gametype would be welcomed by me

[Porshapwr]

Wow! Fantastic support guys. :D


Also make sure you read through the thread as many suggestions have been made in terms of time limits, cap limits, movement, etc......

I need to stop being lazy and update the OP with all the suggestions. I will soon. :)

[Porshapwr]

Also just like to say, when I started this I figured I would get a handful of people that agree. My good buddy and I who have been playing shooters for 15+ years always talk about having CTF in Gears (and as I said I was a big Unreal player too).

It's nice to see that so many people agree and understand how amazing a properly designed CTF mode can be in a game. And to those saying "I would like to see ANY good objective game in Gears 3".........trust me I agree as well. In my ideal world, Guardian would return and CTF would be added. This game SORELY needs some game modes to keep it from getting stale. CTL is incredibly unpopular (for good reason) and KOTH while fun, is not a true objective game type in the vein of Guardian/CTF/etc.....


Let's keep this going guys. If nothing else, it will show Epic that we crave some objective modes for Gears.

[SoSiCc408]

I think a legitimate Capture the Flag gametype for Gears 3 would do alot of good. CTF was a huge gametype in Unreal Tournament, don't see why it wouldn't be cool for Gears. I've always wanted to see this, Capture the Leader just doesn't do it for me.

[Medevacs wXs]

Sweet the flag thread is back! time to bump some more!

[Porshapwr]

Sweet the flag thread is back! time to bump some more!


I'm truly surprised at how much support it has gotten. Love it!

[cRaNk3d]

Yes!!!!!!!!

[DirtyDanPwns]

If they did it would be lame like a meat shield flag

[TFGx HAVOK]

I'm neutral on the idea..don't care if it's in or out..I would play it though

[Saxophone18]

I would play it if they added it.:)

[SoSiCc408]

If they did it would be lame like a meat shield flag

Submission & Capture the Leader.

[Porshapwr]

Submission & Capture the Leader.

Sad isn't it?


Simply put: Instead of Epic insisting to make modes that only Gears has, which aren't popular, they need to make popular modes with Gears "flavor". That's what people would love. 3 games in and why do I feel they still don't get this concept?

[Threnody]

Well, I commend Epic for trying to stand out and be original within the sea of sameyness that is the current generation of shooters, but yes, they are a little bit stubborn with this sort of thing.

How's this proposal coming along? Hey, if Epic added Annex in Gears 1 via an update, this can happen too.

[Porshapwr]

I agree different is good. But let's be frank: Submission was a sad excuse for CTF and Capture the Leader is a sad excuse for Assassination/Guardian (which oddly enough they had perfect to begin with in Gears 2 - they've essentially regressed).


Also: 450 positive votes. :)

[Dark Borrelnoot]

Not before a Bomb gametype.

Agreed.

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[TrntReznor]

I do like the idea of CTF in gears, but can the map size and spawn system handle it? Maybe a single flag mode would work better, where rounds change which side is on offense or defense.

[Porshapwr]

I do like the idea of CTF in gears, but can the map size and spawn system handle it? Maybe a single flag mode would work better, where rounds change which side is on offense or defense.

1. NIN FTW

2. Yes we discussed the same possibilities. Or they could do like the Alpha playlist does and allow voting. For instance you could choose between "Sandbar 1 flag", "Overpass 1 flag", or "Checkout Multiflag" where the 1 flag games would be offense/defense and the multiflag games would be like 3-5 caps to win. :)

[LeoTheGreat]

I've said from day one that one of the only flaws Gears has and has ever had compared to COD and Halo is the lack of game modes/playlists. I support this idea.

[Medevacs wXs]

Bump bump bump

[Threnody]

I've said from day one that one of the only flaws Gears has and has ever had compared to COD and Halo is the lack of game modes/playlists. I support this idea.
Agreed. And Gears 3 in particular is in dire need of more objective based game modes, I hope Epic realizes this...

[Porshapwr]

I've said from day one that one of the only flaws Gears has and has ever had compared to COD and Halo is the lack of game modes/playlists. I support this idea.

Indeed.


Bump bump bump

Thank you sir.


Agreed. And Gears 3 in particular is in dire need of more objective based game modes, I hope Epic realizes this...

Agreed again.

[Porshapwr]

Just to note: We've gone from a 76% or so approval up to over 81% now and it continues to climb. This despite having nearly 600 votes. :D

[Maaaaaz]

I would say that the maps seem a little on the small side to be decent for CTF, but otherwise I'd give full support

[ssk3tch1one]

I dont have a fav playlist since guardian was taken. Even though i'd like guardian to return first, i would be a d*** if i voted no for a reason like that. So i vote yes. This sounds extremly fun and holding the flag can be like holding the cleaver, no???

[Porshapwr]

I dont have a fav playlist since guardian was taken. Even though i'd like guardian to return first, i would be a d*** if i voted no for a reason like that. So i vote yes. This sounds extremly fun and holding the flag can be like holding the cleaver, no???


It certainly could and if you follow my posts or the people who support this, we are all massive fans of Guardian also trying to get it back. :)

[jg420]

I miss Guardian, damn that was a blast to play. Yeah I would love a true CTF on Gears though as some of my best CTF memories were when Halo 2 first hit online. Gears would be awesome with this or Guardian back

[Porshapwr]

I miss Guardian, damn that was a blast to play. Yeah I would love a true CTF on Gears though as some of my best CTF memories were when Halo 2 first hit online. Gears would be awesome with this or Guardian back

Even better - let's get both. :D

[SoSiCc408]

I can see 5v5 CTF on Old town and Trenches being pretty sweet.

[Vancouva]

C'mon Epic add CTF! You added Annex as a downloadable gametype in Gears 1 surely you can add another gametype to Gears 3?

Capture the Flag would be perfect in Gears...!

[Porshapwr]

I'm really hoping they change CTL back to Guardian/Assassination rules (it CAN be done). While I'm hoping CTF gets added at some point.

Epic clearly underestimates the want for objective modes in Gears.

[Nikeco]

I'd deffinitely support this because I love CTF in Halo COD and just about any other game,so I voted yes

[TrippleSicx]

been wanting this gametype since gears 1 bump

[Porshapwr]

I love how the people who vote no never post.

[Medevacs wXs]

Bump
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[HandFuL oF sKy]

Glad you bumped this. I voted Yes, This could be sweet.

[MIKE HAWK]

daily bump

[DaddysL1L Champ]

I would love that.

[xXtWiStEd]

please do this.. it would be awesome.

[Porshapwr]

Gears of War 3 is now down to 8th on Xbox Live this week and that is with the free map pack last week. I feel game modes are needed to keep this game from getting stale. My one good friend who was a Guardian fanatic has talked about trading it in for BF3 as he can't get into TDM. While I personally like TDM and Execution, we DO NEED some other game modes!

[Asilos S A T AN]

I really liked the impalement execution of the retro (both the roady-charge and the initial part of the Y execution), and as far as I can remember, I don't think there has ever been any stabbing/impaling before the retro so I think that the flag execution should definitely consist of either multiple quick stabs in the chest or one fancy run through the head or heart! :)

[Despairs]

I would be nice another objective gametype ! CTL is pretty empty and KOTH is not my kind of thing. Was a fan of guardian but I doubt they gonna bring it back ever. CTF sounds like a really good idea. Would be nice to try it as an event for test .

[Porshapwr]

Closing in on 500..............let's get it done!

[TrntReznor]

this game could really use another mode

[Porshapwr]

this game could really use another mode


Outside of the bizarre connections lately, the #1 complaint I hear from all the guys I play with are the lack of modes worth playing. Let's face it, if you play TDM then Warzone/Execution are really just a variation. KOTH is popular and that's it. Alpha is another variation and CTL is a joke.

So essentially we have Deathmatch and KOTH. Name another top shooter on Live with only 2 true modes. There aren't. Even BF3 which is limited has 3 true modes. Games like COD and Halo have MANY different modes.

[Medevacs wXs]

Bump bump bump

[the_suicide_fox]

I think Epic should just fix CTL. It is a good Gears version of CTF, but it has so many serious gameplay flaws that it just outright sucks to play. I bet if they fixed all the issues, or change the mode around entirely, there would be no need for a classic CTF mode.

Which, BTW, I will continue to say won't work in Gears gameplay especially after playing the game for over 2 months. There are not even close to enough line of sights on a running flag carrier, the required spawn systems would be a nightmare, and 2 coordinated teams would constantly end in stalemates or overtimes because of how much of a defense they can put around the flag. I can say with confidence classic CTF would be an abomination in Gears.

[rowaan]

I think it would be good if there was a one sided cf mod, one team had to cap it while the other had to defend, I would reccomend a flag post where there is three accesses with a wide area to role out of the way incase of a camping sawed-off, I reckon it would be awesome.

[Porshapwr]

I think Epic should just fix CTL. It is a good Gears version of CTF, but it has so many serious gameplay flaws that it just outright sucks to play. I bet if they fixed all the issues, or change the mode around entirely, there would be no need for a classic CTF mode.

Which, BTW, I will continue to say won't work in Gears gameplay especially after playing the game for over 2 months. There are not even close to enough line of sights on a running flag carrier, the required spawn systems would be a nightmare, and 2 coordinated teams would constantly end in stalemates or overtimes because of how much of a defense they can put around the flag. I can say with confidence classic CTF would be an abomination in Gears.

I agree whole-heartedly about CTL. It's a flawed game type and its simply NOT fun.

We've already discussed CTF. But the post below gives an idea of how it could really be fun.


I think it would be good if there was a one sided cf mod, one team had to cap it while the other had to defend, I would reccomend a flag post where there is three accesses with a wide area to role out of the way incase of a camping sawed-off, I reckon it would be awesome.

Indeed. :)

[Pride of the hyuga]

A very exciting idea.

[Porshapwr]

A very exciting idea.

Thanks!


And you know, I just thought that during play testing Epic could possibly determine that CTF works better 4 on 4 than 5 on 5. It would put more risk/reward around who is defending or attacking. Even in 1 flag CTF games (attack/defend), it would make each life more critical. Just a thought.

[Porshapwr]

A very exciting idea.

- double post

[aweZm]

What about Submission again? That was a potentially fun CTF variation, too bad Epic didn't ever fix the game-breaking glitches and the ridiculous amount of time you had to cap the meatflag before getting the point.

[Pretty Deathly]

I would! It'd be cool!

[Squeakbot]

I think this would be amazing. Maybe 3-4 caps per round, and two rounds per match. Just my input.

[Clone Recon]

maybe instead of doing a capture the flag game type they should make it gears style and do a thrashball game type. Were instead of flags there are thrashballs and you and your team need to get it to the other teams goal. When you pick up the thrashball you would have out your pistol and try and get the thrashball to the other teams ring. Most thrashballs at the end of the game wins. Good??? Or not good???

[oG Forgiveness]

I think that would be cool

[rowaan]

It would be awesome!

[Porshapwr]

Great support guys. Seems the idea is only getting more and more popular.

[Porshapwr]

Monday morning - time for some amazing objective gameplay in Gears 3.



Oh. :(

[Vancouva]

Bump!

Annex was made as DLC in Gears 1 so this is possible...

Remove CTL and add CTF, I guarantee it would be a hit!

[Porshapwr]

Few more no votes..............no posts. lulz

[Porshapwr]

Bump!

Annex was made as DLC in Gears 1 so this is possible...

Remove CTL and add CTF, I guarantee it would be a hit!


Agreed but best yet, change "Capture" the Leader to "Kill" the leader (giving us back Guardian) and add CTF!! :D

[TrntReznor]

super down for CTF, when does it come out;)

[Pandut]

Glad to see this thread still going! :D

I still support this gamemode, would be a lot funner then CTL.

[Sir Horn]

clicked yes before reading, but well written OP.
consider the flag being a Thrashball? or I envision a spear/flag with brutal metal blades for Locust, and gear-shaped Bludgening surfaces for COG.
I think the ball you see on Thrashball is some training ball, I envision a thrashball being more football shaped, maybe made of metal.
You can hand-off to teammates or melee someone for a down? Cool hammerburst/like execution, spiking it into the face.
Just some Ideas...just gotta make it all "geared up" and not just a normal flag.

Also, Love Assault/Defend game types.

[Vancouva]

clicked yes before reading, but well written OP.
consider the flag being a Thrashball? or I envision a spear/flag with brutal metal blades for Locust, and Cog shaped Bludgening surfaces for COG.
I think the ball you see on Thrashball is some training ball, I envision a thrashball being more football shaped, maybe made of metal.
You can hand-off to teammates or melee someone for a down? Cool hammerburst/like execution, spiking it into the face.
Just some Ideas...

Also, Love Assault/Defend game types.

I love your Thrashball idea, truly awesome! Your flag ideas are great too!

In fact, I like all your ideas!

An Assault gametype would be sweet as well, there was a discussion a while back about having a lightmass bomb the COG had to plant and Locust would have to defend. Honestly, if they added CTF or some kind of assault I would be more than happy and continue playing this game for a loooong time! :)

[Sir Horn]

although I can see someone accidentally doing the wrong execution and dropping the darn flag for 5 seconds... maybe map the special flag execution to all buttons (except curb stomp) and just make the flag execution available at start (don't have to unlock it).

[iDuskk]

I voted yes, because even if it ended up sucking, I dont have to play it. However I think this would be insanely difficult to pull off for GoW standards. And EPIC has stated before when GoW3 was being developed that EPIC doesn't want to copy other gametypes without making them "Having a Gears Twist" This doesn't mean its impossible, but Idk if they are still holding true to this. If they can modify the spawn system to work better, this gametype could possibly work

[Porshapwr]

Hey, a true CTF mode where the flag is a thrashball? Bring it on! Maybe that's the idea to make it a true "Gears" mode.


Just, please for the love of MP fans everywhere, don't make custom rules thinking "you know better" (speaking to Epic). CTL and Submission are the result of those ideas and well...................nuff said.

[Sir Horn]

do you think the current maps can support CTF?
I mean, you wouldn't want to put the flag at spawn... where would you put it?
I almost feel like the maps would need a re-design to support CTF, like Trenches was redesigned for TDM. (of course this won't happen)

[Porshapwr]

We've had quite a few ideas in this thread on that. You could possibly do multiflag modes on maps like Blood Drive as I detailed. You could do 1 flag games (offense and defense) on a map like Sandbar putting the flag or capture point up top.

For smaller maps where it may be easy to cap a flag - you could also allow multiple caps and run it by a time limit. Like, you're on offense for 4 minutes and defense for 4 minutes. The team grabbing the most flags wins. You could even do a sudden death in the event of a tie.

[Vbfslayer]

I think you should be able to shoot with the flag...to me Quake 2had the best CTF ever as you would have defense and offense...power ups...hell even a grappling hook. But I would say let them fight with the flag...otherwise it would be like guardian without the leader being able to fight.

[Savoie]

I'd play that, you've got my support.

[Porshapwr]

492.............almost to 500. :D

[D1ZZY W4LL1N]

YES. HOLY FREAKING CRAP YES!! haha it would be soooooo sick. I'd play it a ton too.

[Sir Horn]

If this poll was someone's K/D average, I'd never play against them. :D

[Porshapwr]

YES. HOLY FREAKING CRAP YES!! haha it would be soooooo sick. I'd play it a ton too.

Wouldn't we all my friend.


If this poll was someone's K/D average, I'd never play against them. :D

lulz - sometimes I feel like I am playing against guys with averages this lop-sided.

[Threnody]

I'm administering this thread a healthy dose of BUMP.

[My Name's Taken :(]

they could turn the cleaver or raams sword into a flag

[cpetrag]

Nice!!!!

A great improviment to gears....

[Clone Recon]

I came up with that idea first! The thrashball game type. pg 41.

[Porshapwr]

I came up with that idea first! The thrashball game type. pg 41.


Link me. The more Epic sees we need objective game types the better. :D

[Hinzketchup]

If i where able to do a sketch of the flags would you post it the sketches on the forum? and i dont understand why people are disliking this its like they don't want more options in the game if you dont want to play the gametype then dont but help out your gears brothers and ask for it anyways

[Sir Horn]

If i where able to do a sketch of the flags would you post it the sketches on the forum? and i dont understand why people are disliking this its like they don't want more options in the game if you dont want to play the gametype then dont but help out your gears brothers and ask for it anyways

There are 2 main issues with it I feel: (although I completely support CTF)
1 • The maps aren't designed for CTF. Smaller maps would make CTF too difficult. Usually this game type is played on large maps only. Some maps would have to be changed completely to accomidate (sp) this game type. (which isnt going to happen)
2 • The more game types there are, the less players you will have in each game type. They've already hit this cap. They'll have to remove another game type to fit in CTF.
and if you remove a game type (like CTL for example) you'll have to re-do all medals, and ribbons associated with that game type.

• Not to mention the ammount of work it would be to render flags and custom executions/ animations for holding and capturing flags etc.
It's A TON of work to actually get done.

[Hinzketchup]

Im not asking them to remove CTL im just asking them to maybe give it a shot on a weekend event, i understand the problem with the maps it would work on every map i could tell you how on each and every map excluding a few but it would take to long to type and i really dont feel like typing a huge post i just want to see it 1 weekend and if it dosnt work then too bad if it does great

[Hinzketchup]

have you ever designed anything on a computer such as a 3-D model its not to extremely difficult just time consuming and the dont have to make executions for them just saying

[Sir Horn]

have you ever designed anything on a computer such as a 3-D model its not to extremely difficult just time consuming and the dont have to make executions for them just saying
I'm actually a graphic designer, and yes probably more experience than most.
to make it right, it's a deal of work. not just on the art side, but the PROGRAMMING ugh

[aweZm]

You are right about the maps probably being too small but nothing wrong with a high score cap or time limit just making it a faster-paced game. Plus all the other modes have tremendous problems with spawns on the maps, so a CTF variant might actually clean the game up some seeing as there should only be two spawns fixed for each team somewhere reasonably close to their flag.

[Porshapwr]

You are right about the maps probably being too small but nothing wrong with a high score cap or time limit just making it a faster-paced game. Plus all the other modes have tremendous problems with spawns on the maps, so a CTF variant might actually clean the game up some seeing as there should only be two spawns fixed for each team somewhere reasonably close to their flag.


All of that^

[Porshapwr]

500!

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[Hinzketchup]

Its like your saying you dont want epic to work hard and do their job. thats the whole reason they make games so why not improve the game? too bad if its work thats their job to make the game better. "Ugh"

[Porshapwr]

Its like your saying you dont want epic to work hard and do their job. thats the whole reason they make games so why not improve the game? too bad if its work thats their job to make the game better. "Ugh"

Wait wut? Seriously confused by your post.

[Hinzketchup]

talking to the guy who dosnt agree i completely agree with this forum but my original question was if i could draw up some awesome epic worthy flags for cog and locust would you update the post with the sketch

[Chobie1Konobie]

Dude CTF would be awesome.

[Porshapwr]

talking to the guy who dosnt agree i completely agree with this forum but my original question was if i could draw up some awesome epic worthy flags for cog and locust would you update the post with the sketch

Oh! Yes I agree.


And hell yeah I would update the thread. Bring em on. :)

[Porshapwr]

Weekend exposure - no reason to stop at only a mere 500 supporters. :D

[Porshapwr]

Happy Monday - had a 6 hour long session of Gears on Saturday night. Entire group kept saying the game needs something other than TDM.............

[Porshapwr]

Yo dawg - I herd you'd like to use your new characters in some CTF.....

http://memedump.com/d/1225-8/yo-dawg-xzibit-48.jpg

[NuMbA1PaCkFaN]

Ya this would be tight.

[Sir Horn]

bump ******************

[Porshapwr]

Ya this would be tight.

Thank you sir.......

[Locust BarmyArmy]

Love this idea, I think Gears could lend itself very well to CTF. Supported for sure! :)

[Porshapwr]

Love this idea, I think Gears could lend itself very well to CTF. Supported for sure! :)


10 agreeds!

[Porshapwr]

Imagine flags with custom tops - they could have christmas trees on the top for the holidays, jack-o-lanterns for Halloween etc.... :D

[OzzysGnasher]

Yes! Please make this happen Epic, test it out first by making it some sort of weekend playlist.

[Medevacs wXs]

CTF, will make this game have 3 highly competitive gametypes. TDM, CTF, and KOTH. What would be so bad about adding it? I ask you gears developers, look at halo it has SO MANY playlits. Yet I hardly ever have a problem finding games. This whole we don't want to split up the community thing, I uderstand it. Still this type of gametype will do exactly what Cliff talked about when gears 2 was coming out, Do what ever you can to keep the disc in the tray. This gametype along with the other 2 will 100% keep my disc in the tray, day in and day out.

[Porshapwr]

Yes! Please make this happen Epic, test it out first by making it some sort of weekend playlist.

Thanks!


CTF, will make this game have 3 highly competitive gametypes. TDM, CTF, and KOTH. What would be so bad about adding it? I ask you gears developers, look at halo it has SO MANY playlits. Yet I hardly ever have a problem finding games. This whole we don't want to split up the community thing, I uderstand it. Still this type of gametype will do exactly what Cliff talked about when gears 2 was coming out, Do what ever you can to keep the disc in the tray. This gametype along with the other 2 will 100% keep my disc in the tray, day in and day out.

Nice post and agreed. Honestly, between my friends and I who now split time between Gears 3, Halo, Battlefield 3, and some on MW3 we ALL AGREE that CTL being Guardian instead and the addition of CTF would be heaven. As it is, we also ALL AGREE that this game is lacking that mode that draws you back day in, day out like Gears 2.

So with Gears 2, you had competitive deathmatch, KOTH, and Guardian but poor online play.

Now you have great online play with only competitive deatchmatch and KOTH. This game is CRYING for another 1 or 2 objective game modes.


And yes, Halo has many, many modes and they are constantly modified/updated/added to etc.... COD is the same way (although I don't play COD). Why do you think COD and Halo are #1 and #2 in online play time???? This is not a coincidence...............

[verycoolguy]

CTF can be amazing, but I can see it being a very long, Longshot baitfest if we have to use the pick up animation before capturing the flag. That can be fixed by giving anyone picking up the flag one second protection, but some people may not like that.

[Porshapwr]

4 more NO votes...............none posted. Why? If you don't agree, post why. Don't be a sheep that says no just to say no. Have a reason............and please make it better than "Epic says it will spread population too much" which is BS.

[Porshapwr]

MW3 was updated with new MP modes and features.


As I said previously, Gears is screaming for new modes. The weekend playlists are great don't get me wrong, but they aren't dedicated fully fleshed out new modes.

[aweZm]

Hurry Epic make a CTF playlist since you ruined KotH for the week with comets!

[Porshapwr]

Hurry Epic make a CTF playlist since you ruined KotH for the week with comets!

Comets?????

[Porshapwr]

A few more positive votes - thank you. Let's keep this train rolling. We already have more votes for CTF than anything outside of Old School which is what Alpha became. :)

[Fishead John]

-- Flag carried on back/shoulders classic CTF style
-- Touch return yes
-- No movement speed impediment unless its in the range of 15 - 25 % still veiwed as unneeded
-- 5 cap round win
-- 2 round win game win
-- Flag Carrier has no health regen to enforce team play, effective use of cover paths, wall bouncing, etc.
-- Kills made by the flag carrier have an extra respawn time penalty.

[YahBoyzxSLACKEIRx]

Intresting, im not a big fan of the idea but it would be a nice change.

[Porshapwr]

-- Flag carried on back/shoulders classic CTF style
-- Touch return yes
-- No movement speed impediment unless its in the range of 15 - 25 % still veiwed as unneeded
-- 5 cap round win
-- 2 round win game win
-- Flag Carrier has no health regen to enforce team play, effective use of cover paths, wall bouncing, etc.
-- Kills made by the flag carrier have an extra respawn time penalty.


Interesting ideas. I especially like the no health regen and respawn penalty for those killed by the flag carrier. I will add to the OP. :)

[GoDlYPrOpHeT]

i think it'd be really cool to see on gears

[A CANADIAN]

Yes. CTF FTW. Oh and how about bringing back GUARDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUARDIaNF A GUARNDIGND AUTINDSKLNSDFKLDJFDKSLFJSDKL'FJADLK

RAGE POST.

[mastrer86]

There is king of the hill not capture the flag so it would be nice to have more variety to the mix. As well as a all out death match. I get that it is a team work game but that makes it really hard to have a competition.

[Master.F]

epic dont listen unless you wave a dollar bill in their face

[Porshapwr]

i think it'd be really cool to see on gears

As do many my friend.


Yes. CTF FTW. Oh and how about bringing back GUARDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUARDIaNF A GUARNDIGND AUTINDSKLNSDFKLDJFDKSLFJSDKL'FJADLK

RAGE POST.

Sup buddy. I'm fighting the Guardian fight for all as well. Sad that we have to at all really.

And we still haven't played a game together. LOL


There is king of the hill not capture the flag so it would be nice to have more variety to the mix. As well as a all out death match. I get that it is a team work game but that makes it really hard to have a competition.

More variety!!

[SuBxSteDz]

This is a great idea.

My ideas:
- 10 second respawn (not a wave spawn)
- Boom shield roadie run when running with flag
- You can drop the flag to secure an area (but if not picked back up it returns in 15 seconds), then pick it back and carry on to score it
- Being hit by the flag is like being hit by the cleaver (same animation), but takes two beatdowns then the enemy player is DBNO
- Two separate spawn points: One for when your flag is at home, and one for when your flag has been stolen or when an enemy player is in your spawn area.

[Porshapwr]

This is a great idea.

My ideas:
- 10 second respawn (not a wave spawn)
- Boom shield roadie run when running with flag
- You can drop the flag to secure an area (but if not picked back up it returns in 15 seconds), then pick it back and carry on to score it
- Being hit by the flag is like being hit by the cleaver (same animation), but takes two beatdowns then the enemy player is DBNO
- Two separate spawn points: One for when your flag is at home, and one for when your flag has been stolen or when an enemy player is in your spawn area.


Thank you and nice suggestions! I'm going to update the OP with a bunch of stuff over the holiday and I'll be sure to include. Any further support you can muster up is appreciated. ;)

[Porshapwr]

A Festivus for the rest of us!!


:)

[Porshapwr]

Happy Holidays Bump.

[Medevacs wXs]

bump ump bump

[krazy2768]

or we could all play unreal tournament since that is a playlist honestly gears is stuffed with so many playlists already so people who like warzone :this guy: hate it because very seldom people play it only playlist i would enjoy for them to bring back is guardian

[Porshapwr]

or we could all play unreal tournament since that is a playlist honestly gears is stuffed with so many playlists already so people who like warzone :this guy: hate it because very seldom people play it only playlist i would enjoy for them to bring back is guardian

I agree on both points really but you probably didn't read through the thread.

1. It looks like Gears has many playlists but it doesn't. TDM, Warzone, Execution, Wingman, and Alpha are all just variations of Deathmatch. Epic has made it seem like there is a lot of variety when really there is not. The only truly different modes are KOTH and CTL. And as we all know, CTL has been an utter failure.

2. I agree Guardian should replace CTL as soon as possible (as does about 90% of the population if you look at all the polls on it).

3. Even with bringing Guardian back, the game STILL would only have 2 game types that aren't Deathmatch. The only other major shooter that can get away with that lack of variety is Battlefield but it is also a game on a much grander scale than typical shooters. The map size, vehicles, etc..... allow the game to have depth with only a few game modes. Gears NEEDS more game modes to compete with other top titles and as we all know, games like moh moh muty and malo have many different game types for the users to play.

[CHAOS SPLASH 33]

LOL i read through this and i have to say this would be fun! I think they would add some gears feel to it tho. like CTT. capture the ticker! you cant sit around and hold onto the ticker like a flag cuz itll blow if you hold on to it for more than say 2-4 minutes. It would make people move and lessen camping and i think add to the tension having a glowing ticker in your hands! XD Plus the ticker noise would give a sound indicator to the enemy team to keep things interesting! I wouldnt have it run around but once it blows up it resets. Having that would be so awsome IMO

[Porshapwr]

LOL i read through this and i have to say this would be fun! I think they would add some gears feel to it tho. like CTT. capture the ticker! you cant sit around and hold onto the ticker like a flag cuz itll blow if you hold on to it for more than say 2-4 minutes. It would make people move and lessen camping and i think add to the tension having a glowing ticker in your hands! XD Plus the ticker noise would give a sound indicator to the enemy team to keep things interesting! I wouldnt have it run around but once it blows up it resets. Having that would be so awsome IMO


LOL - CTT. Could you throw the ticker at a group of enemies for the double/triple kill but resetting the flag point? :p

[Porshapwr]

Over 540 and still climbing. :D

[Xx Dantes Rage]

First, before automatically voting no because Gears hasn't had this before I ask that you simply think about the possibility of this game type and how it would fit in with the Gears gameplay. Please read before voting.

Capture the flag is the classic objective mode in competitive multiplayer games. It is in or has been in nearly every major competitive shooter. There is a reason for this of course - it's a f*cking BLAST when you have a good team. I've been playing shooters for 15+ years now and some of my best memories are while playing CTF in various games (actually one of them being Unreal Tournament). The reasons I think a CTF game type would be amazing in Gears 3 are as follows:

1. Gears first and foremost is a team orientated game. Unlike other major shooters, you NEED a good team to truly do well. It is one of the things that separates Gears from other shooters and makes me love it all the more.

2. The 5 on 5, 3rd person perspective, tactical gameplay of Gears fits a mode like capture the flag amazingly well from a dynamics perspective.

3. The map design and weaponry in Gears 3 are ideal for CTF gameplay. The combination of up close weaponry (where teammates would attack and defend each other while escorting a flag carrier) and ranged weaponry (going for that down or flag carrier stop from distance) is perfect. You combine that with the symmetrical map layouts and you have the ideal breeding ground for epic CTF matches.


Just picture if you will, a blue COG flag on one side, red Locust flag on the other, and teams of 5 fighting to get to the other side. Roadie running is like it was designed for CTF from the outset. You can run, but you can't shoot and it can be a challenge to navigate quickly sometimes due to the 3rd person perspective and screen shaking. Imagine roadie running with a flag while you have your 4 teammates using various loadouts to try and help you get back to base to score a flag?

Imagine Blood Drive (but with Gears 3 weapons/rules) with a flag planted at the top of either of the main steps outside of where you spawn. You have a choice, go up the main steps which will be very hard due to the visibility of the other team seeing you coming or go through the back, past grenades, and with more cover but a longer distance to travel. Imagine the battles with your teammates to get there and grab the flag. Better yet, imagine the tension you would feel after you got the flag and had to try and roadie run all the way to the other side without getting downed (which would make you drop the flag). I'm smiling just thinking about it!


Now some people will say "But we had Submission and now we have Capture the Leader". Let's face it, Submission wasn't well received and while Capture the Leader can be fun, it doesn't have the same dynamics of a true CTF game type. Why? Because once you grab the leader, the battle doesn't move from that area. You move extremely slow and all your team has to do is setup a perimeter to try and protect you. Submission of course you had to move but the pace was terrible and the ring moving made it even worse.

The KEYS to capture the flag are tension and speed. What makes it so much fun is that tension you feel as you are RACING with the flag to try and score. And as you have to move the flag quickly, the game changes on the fly because teams are in a constant struggle to do many things at once which include guarding the flag, getting the flag, and stopping/protecting the flag carrier which happens all over the map. This simply does not happen in CTL or Submission.

I keep dreaming of a real CTF game type in Gears. It really could be epic on all levels. And really, I'm not sure it would even be that difficult to implement at this point. I understand how Gears likes to have its own unique modes, but as I said there is a reason that CTF has been in nearly every competitive shooter. Epic implemented Team Deathmatch in Gears 3 and look how that turned out - it will now be the #1 played mode. We should ALL hope for things that will make Gears better overall. Please at least consider it. :)


Additional Ideas Added by Supporters:

- Movement speed should be about the same as when running while holding a boomshield

- You should not be able to use any weapons while carrying the flag but the flag can be used as a melee weapon. We could even have a flag specific execution.

- The game could be setup to cap 2-4 flags a round with the first team winning 2 rounds winning the match.

- Another idea is to simply set the 2 rounds with a time limit and have whoever caps the most win. If at the end of the time limit in the 2nd round the teams are tied, then the game goes to sudden death OT.

- The flag should be returned when touched - no timer. This will help balance map size and cover for the flag carrier.

- Characters could have specific quotes for capturing a flag or executing with a flag. Imagine the possibilities!

I think it could be pretty fun if it's done right. Their needs to be careful thought for each map as far as where the flags are and the capture points as well.

[Xx Dantes Rage]

Yes. CTF FTW. Oh and how about bringing back GUARDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GUARDIaNF A GUARNDIGND AUTINDSKLNSDFKLDJFDKSLFJSDKL'FJADLK

RAGE POST.

I'm sure we'd all love for Guardian to return, unfourtunately it won't happen.

[Medevacs wXs]

I was thinking about some other ideas for this playlist while at work the other day. Here are some I came up with I would like to share.

1) Allow a person to drop the flag and fight, however the flag has a 15 second reset timer.

2) Do not put in touch return for the flag. This would help to keep the game about engaging the enemy and posting up on your flag. Rather then mindlessly running to touch it. This would also make large maps more intense. Because you would spawn further from the flag then on a small one. However the reset timmer should count down faster or slower depending on how many players from each team are around it.

Eaxmple: Team A steals team B's flag. Team B stops the flag pull, and team B has 3 players with in a certian radius of the flag. While team A only has 2, therefore the reset timer should go down faster. It sohuld work the other way as will. If team A has more people then the timer should be slowed. This should reward the team that is showing more controll over the flag.

3) Have the spawns set up like they are in KOTH. (This may have alrdy been addressed, I'm sorry if it was.)

4) Use warzone setting, just like the current objective gametypes. (Again most liky this was talked about already.)

5) Finally if there is a timer on the match, and both teams are tied for flag caps. There should be a sudden death if one team has the flag after the time runs out. Much like the one in Halo. I think it should be around a 2 min. sudden death. This can allow for some really intense moments.

Let me know what you think!

[Porshapwr]

I was thinking about some other ideas for this playlist while at work the other day. Here are some I came up with I would like to share.

1) Allow a person to drop the flag and fight, however the flag has a 15 second reset timer.

2) Do not put in touch return for the flag. This would help to keep the game about engaging the enemy and posting up on your flag. Rather then mindlessly running to touch it. This would also make large maps more intense. Because you would spawn further from the flag then on a small one. However the reset timmer should count down faster or slower depending on how many players from each team are around it.

Eaxmple: Team A steals team B's flag. Team B stops the flag pull, and team B has 3 players with in a certian radius of the flag. While team A only has 2, therefore the reset timer should go down faster. It sohuld work the other way as will. If team A has more people then the timer should be slowed. This should reward the team that is showing more controll over the flag.

3) Have the spawns set up like they are in KOTH. (This may have alrdy been addressed, I'm sorry if it was.)

4) Use warzone setting, just like the current objective gametypes. (Again most liky this was talked about already.)

5) Finally if there is a timer on the match, and both teams are tied for flag caps. There should be a sudden death if one team has the flag after the time runs out. Much like the one in Halo. I think it should be around a 2 min. sudden death. This can allow for some really intense moments.

Let me know what you think!


Agree on almost all fronts bro. Only thing I would say is that the timer to return the flag should be something like 10-15 seconds rather than say 30.

Sudden death CTF in Gears would be absolutely amazing...........


Oh and I still need to update the OP with more thoughts and contributions. I WILL do that soon. And what happened to the guy who was going to mock up some images with flags?

[RaZzty_returns]

It could fit in gears imo , hell they could actually call it thrashball n have the ball basically be the flag. that way it could stay in gears cannon

[Holy Gear]

what if its Capture the cleaver?....i voted a wile back for yes.....it would be nice to see it atleast as an event, just to test out if it would work.

[Holy Gear]

this needs to be put as an event so epic can see how succesfull it would be.

[PutridFlesh]

Hope Epic listen the opinion of the fans.
It would be awesome a Capture the Flag like Unreal Tournament.

[n8lyons213]

I say yes!

[COG xEpIcZzz]

This is not CoD or Halo

[WoundsOfDeath]

Do want! CTF has alwas been a favorite of mine. Will need some thought in terms of weapon balance (grenade tags!) but I know I would spend many hours playing if properly implemented.

[Porshapwr]

This is not CoD or Halo


This is such a bizarre argument to me. In case you haven't noticed, COD and Halo are the most successful/popular shooters of our time. You might associate their VARIETY in online MP as a reason for that.

CTF was around before COD and Halo and has been the staple for MP Objective games as I mentioned.

[Porshapwr]

Do want! CTF has alwas been a favorite of mine. Will need some thought in terms of weapon balance (grenade tags!) but I know I would spend many hours playing if properly implemented.

Indeed. :)

[aweZm]

This is not CoD or Halo

lol says a guy with a Gears 2 avatar, guess we know about your credibility by just looking there at least. CTF was one of the first shooter variants ever created. I hate to tell you but I was playing CTF competitively in games before the first CoD or Halo was out. Having a CTF variant in Gears would not make the game any less "Gearslike."

[Porshapwr]

lol says a guy with a Gears 2 avatar, guess we know about your credibility by just looking there at least. CTF was one of the first shooter variants ever created. I hate to tell you but I was playing CTF competitively in games before the first CoD or Halo was out. Having a CTF variant in Gears would not make the game any less "Gearslike."


Exactly. I know the average age on this forum is quite low but there were many FPS games prior to any Halo or COD. CTF has been around forever and like I've said many times, it's for a good reason. ;)

[Porshapwr]

Happy Friday everyone. :)

[Medevacs wXs]

Time to bump!

[Porshapwr]

1:30am. What you doing up so late? lol


We still have to play some Gears together Med.

[Porshapwr]

Watched that Anvil fly by a few times. Looks like a great CTF map to me. :D

[Mental Reap3r]

If it was handled correctly sure why not

[Porshapwr]

If it was handled correctly sure why not

That's the point. We're not saying to simply import some other CTF mode from another game. Make it a Gears CTF mode but the possibilities are fantastic. :)