Gears of War 3 Suggestion: The Gears Career Record and Accolade System

[Hooligunn]

Gears of War is all about small scale, personal combat and that feeling of truly beating someone one on one. Based on the fact that Gears is not really a customisable game, and I doubt that will change in the next game, so we need to look to alternative ways to add our own personality and customisation into Gears. Presenting my idea:



The Gears Career Record and Accolade System

Imagine being able to click on a gamertag and have a full Career Record pop up. This includes kill death ratios overall and in various game modes, time played ect - kind of like the GearsofWar.com site offers now, but in the game itself and with a little more depth. This also includes showing your Rank insignia, Rank number and total experience bar for example. You could also tab right to get the game stats from them, which is offered now.

But here's where the "Accolade System" comes in. This would show on your Career Profile, have a full list of your earned accolades on the site, and your Top 5 Accolades (as selected by you) would appear under your Avatar and such on the forums. The Accolade system is like mixing Halo 3's medal system with Call of Duty's challenge system, small images or icons with challenges tied to them. By doing certain things in game, you can earn an accolade but they don't (mostly) come easy. For example, your not going to get an accolade every headshot you get.

Here's a couple of examples of the challenge based accolades I threw together with the first one being easy difficulty, the second is medium difficulty, and the third is a tough one.


http://www.xtralife.co.uk/accex.jpg

1) Waste Not, Want Not
Get a kill with every power weapon you pick up in one match (minimum of two pickups)

2) A Head of the Competition
In one match with the Longshot, get at least 3 headshots and finish with an 100% accuracy rating.

3) Team, You Can Thank Me Now
Win a 1 v 3 or more situation without using a power weapon.So that offers a wealth of challenges for people to work towards, some easy, some very tough. And obviously a number would be next to each accolade to show how many times you've earned it. But that's not the limit to the accolade system.

You can also have various ones for each weapon, so you can put your favourite weapon (and how good you are with it) in your Top 5 accolades, showing your skill with your best weapon. That'll let people who are awesome snipers, fantastic shots with the Torque Bow or ninja grenade taggers (on people not walls!) to get their recognition and share that across their Gears identity wherever they are in the community.

Here's an example of my idea of how the weapon system would work. Please bear in mind this is purely an example system, so don't look so much at what I say, rather than the idea. Here is the idea under the Sniper Rifle progression:



http://www.xtralife.co.uk/sniperprog.jpg

Sniper Grade 1 (Bronze)
1) Get 50 headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.

Sniper Grade 2 (Silver)
1) Complete Grade 1 Requirements
2) 150 Headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.
3) Get a set amount of headshots with the Longshot in one public match with the sniper rifle. Requirement to achieve in non-Respawn modes is 4, Respawn modes is 8.

Sniper Grade 3 (Gold)
1) Complete Grade 2 Requirements
2) 300 Headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.
3) Kill a set amount of other players using sniper rifles in one public match with a headshot only. Requirement to achieve in non-Respawn modes is 3, Respawn modes is 6.

Sniper Grade 4 (Mastery)
1) Complete Grade 3 Requirements
2) Achieve 500 Headshots
3) Complete all Longshot Challenge Accolades

This method supports the many of you who I have seen gagging for Gears 1 style achievements based on weapons to show off your skill or love for that weapon.So this system covers not only showing off your extra skill level in various areas to seperate you from the crowd, it also shows your playing style and allows you to share that community wide both in the game and outside of the game. On top of this, this could be combined with a Rank system that Gears 2 currently has, and the achievement list Epic would put together to offer a true sense of achievement, personality and progression all in one.

Accolades provide the challenge, personability, and challenge progression.
Rank provides the progression and tracking of your progress in the game.
Achievements provide the general pushes and challenges for all players.

Your Career Record pulls this, along with your stats, into one location. This injects personality into your Gears gaming without modifying the core of the game based on the current system of using normal character models (rather than customising them) and no weapon unlocking.

Combine that with the fact you could proudly display your top 5 or so accolades on the forum under your profile, and you have a real TRUE representation of how you play Gears both in and out of the game. I think that would be much better than any kind of character customisation, and any kind of progression system, in terms of it's reflection on you as a player.


Thanks for reading. Share your thoughts below!

[Zaxuk]

Love the idea! :D

[Milky Pirate]

Hell yeah! I would love something like this. I'm not really wanting full character customisation like a lot of people.

[anarchopie92]

Great idea. I also like how you made them difficult, rather than something a player who isn't great with that weapon being able to achieve it.

[Simburgur]

As I said before, love it. We need more metagame.

EDIT: And come on IRC and then Gears :p

[Shadow47]

one of the best ideas I've heard for gears 3. :cool:

[Simburgur]

Your Career Record pulls this, along with your stats, into one location. This injects personality into your Gears gaming without modifying the core of the game based on the current system of using normal character models (rather than customising them) and no weapon unlocking.

I know some people hate the idea of custom characters, but the ability to add minor unlocks to existing models - such as a golden hat for dizzy, or pink goggles for Baird - wouldn't really break anything would it?

[Hooligunn]

Great idea. I also like how you made them difficult, rather than something a player who isn't great with that weapon being able to achieve it.

Well that's the idea of accolades really. There would be plenty of attainable accolades, but also plenty of tough ones. For example, Bronze Sniper is pretty darn easy. Silver is still pretty easily (as it could kind of be abused). Gold is much harder for some people, though still very attainable for a decent sniper. Master is the huge challenge.

Epic made the choice in Gears 2 to give a much larger focus on the casual gamer on the achievement side of things, and that's fair enough. But this allows the casual achievements to co-exist with a tougher system that non-hardcore players won't even really care about.

You see, they'll be too busy ranking up to care. They might not be good enough for some of the major accolades, but they'll rank up instead. They still get the feeling of progression, but the higher skilled players rank quicker and get these accolades to show off. It's a win win for everyone :)

[TAO Devil]

brilliant! seriously brilliant.....

well thought out, clear, concise..... good format.

I'd vote for this 100%

[CommanderRown]

Excellent idea Hooli, makes no sense to not implement this.

[TAO Devil]

but don't limit it to sniper....... My torque is magical!!!

[Simburgur]

Oh, and, a few more thngs to add for now:

1) No accolades for plain kills or k/d unless the way they are credited is changed. People ***** about it enough as it is >.<

2) Perhaps some would have to be maintained - For example, to keep the highest Longshot accolade, you would have to keep your accuracy above N%? Or perhaps there could be a different set of accolades for that.

[Shadow47]

would these accolades give xp towards your rank?

[Milky Pirate]

would these accolades give xp towards your rank?

Personally I'd quite like to ditch the current rank system. It rewards selfish play more than trying to win as a team.

[Shadow47]

Personally I'd quite like to ditch the current rank system. It rewards selfish play more than trying to win as a team.

I agree that it needs to be re-thought, but I still want some sort of rank system in Gears 3.

[anarchopie92]

Personally I'd quite like to ditch the current rank system. It rewards selfish play more than trying to win as a team.

Yes, and if Epic did that, we could theoretically go back to the lobby system, rather than MM.

[Hooligunn]

but don't limit it to sniper....... My torque is magical!!!

Oh of course. You'd have one progression path for every single weapon. Love the Boltok? Nows your chance to show off what a Boltok king you really are. xD


Oh, and, a few more thngs to add for now:

1) No accolades for plain kills or k/d unless the way they are credited is changed. People ***** about it enough as it is >.<

Totally agree, never planned for that in the system. Though, a "get X amount of kills in a match without a death" would be alright. But no, no overall KD stuff or anything like that, stats cover that already.


2) Perhaps some would have to be maintained - For example, to keep the highest Longshot accolade, you would have to keep your accuracy above N%? Or perhaps there could be a different set of accolades for that.

Nope. Considered that, but then that causes people to be too considerate of losing an accolade rather than taking a risky shot and saving a teammate, so that's definetely something you don't want to happen.

I also considered a certain percentage of kills having to be made by that weapon as well, but again, it would make people grab that weapon at all costs. Not good.


would these accolades give xp towards your rank?

Yup, most definetely.

[TAO Devil]

I agree that it needs to be re-thought, but I still want some sort of rank system in Gears 3.

based on wins. maybe a bonus for best performance but not at the sacrifice of the team score.

maybe a public ranking and a private ranking.

you know= Ranked and social versions of "game not to be spoken"

[Hooligunn]

based on wins. maybe a bonus for best performance but not at the sacrifice of the team score.

Personally, I heavily disagree with that. I hate the fact in Halo 3 I can perform fantastically well in a game and get nothing for it because my team sucked.

I like the current system personally, I don't see the problem. It rewards you for playing well, and gives you a win bonus for winning as a team. It's very boring / basic in comparison to other games, but that would change with a system like this in Gears 3.

[Simburgur]

Nope. Considered that, but then that causes people to be too considerate of losing an accolade rather than taking a risky shot and saving a teammate, so that's definetely something you don't want to happen.

I also considered a certain percentage of kills having to be made by that weapon as well, but again, it would make people grab that weapon at all costs. Not good.

Two good points, and I agree. If it interferes with gameplay, then it's a no-go imo.

[TAO Devil]

Personally, I heavily disagree with that. I hate the fact in Halo 3 I can perform fantastically well in a game and get nothing for it because my team sucked.

I like the current system personally, I don't see the problem. It rewards you for playing well, and gives you a win bonus for winning as a team. It's very boring / basic in comparison to other games, but that would change with a system like this in Gears 3.

thats true....

What about making the game outcome more of an impact than personal performance?

You can get 4,000 exp and lose now. and people are fine with that.

lessen the personal performance bonus and increase the overall team performance. Would make people play better as a team rather than to sacrifice team for a better personal score.

[Your Devastator]

ooooooohhhhh.....sexy idea, 4sho.

another reason for....a seprate disc for the MP. ;)

[Milky Pirate]

Personally, I heavily disagree with that. I hate the fact in Halo 3 I can perform fantastically well in a game and get nothing for it because my team sucked.

I like the current system personally, I don't see the problem. It rewards you for playing well, and gives you a win bonus for winning as a team. It's very boring / basic in comparison to other games, but that would change with a system like this in Gears 3.

I just feel that Gears plays out a lot more interestingly when teamwork gets involved, but at the moment there is no real incentive for winning apart from the exp. The main incentives are k/d and exp from getting kills, which rewards selfish play and shotgunning. I would love to go in to a match not feeling any pressure to get kills, but knowing I am helping the team by hammerbursting the guy that my team-mate is fighting etc..

[Hooligunn]

I just feel that Gears plays out a lot more interestingly when teamwork gets involved, but at the moment there is no real incentive for winning apart from the exp. The main incentives are k/d and exp from getting kills, which rewards selfish play and shotgunning. I would love to go in to a match not feeling any pressure to get kills, but knowing I am helping the team by hammerbursting the guy that my team-mate is fighting etc..

But you can do that and still get XP in this system for doing the assist. In fact, if you do the majority of the assisting, you get more points than the person that got the kill!

I guess I see where your coming from though, but I don't think there is anything they could really do about that (apart from using the Accolade system maybe, and adding in a bunch of assist accolades). Then you could show off you are a teammate who assists the killers to the world ;)

[IXxRolandxXI]

Yes, an excellent idea, its a very familiar concept somehow. Almost like I've seen this somewhere before. Hmmmmm.

[Hooligunn]

Yes, an excellent idea, its a very familiar concept somehow. Almost like I've seen this somewhere before. Hmmmmm.

Where's that? :p

[TAO Devil]

Where's that? :p

shhhhh! don't mention them......

It'll be considered a comparison thread...... :eek:

[Hooligunn]

shhhhh! don't mention them......

It'll be considered a comparison thread...... :eek:

If it's to do with FX1's thread, that wasn't really fleshed out information that I saw (just the core ideas) and I don't remember any kind of accolade system like I suggested in it.

[TAO Devil]

If it's to do with FX1's thread, that wasn't really fleshed out information that I saw (just the core ideas) and I don't remember any kind of accolade system like I suggested in it.

lol. not a comparison to another thread, a comparison to another game.....

they get closed b/c of rants.....

nah, I like your idea. Only reason I couldnt see it happening was if Gears 3 was already close to final production. *Cough, November 2010, Cough, Cough* ;)

[Hooligunn]

Keep dreaming it will be this year Tao haha. Keep dreaming ;)

I guarentee you they won't release Gears 3 in the same year as Halo Reach, Natal, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, Final Fantasy 13, Mass Effect 2 ect. They'll save it for later haha.

[TAO Devil]

Keep dreaming it will be this year Tao haha. Keep dreaming ;)

I guarentee you they won't release Gears 3 in the same year as Halo Reach, Natal, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, Final Fantasy 13, Mass Effect 2 ect. They'll save it for later haha.

I dont think it will be released this year.

But don't squash my dreams! They're my dreams and I can be as unreasonable with them as I want!

eh, I'm only allowed to buy 4 games a year, and since Batman AA 2 won't be out until 2011, I was hoping Gears 3 would be the replacement. I know it won;t be, so I'll have to figure something else out......

[Simburgur]

Keep dreaming it will be this year Tao haha. Keep dreaming ;)

I guarentee you they won't release Gears 3 in the same year as Halo Reach, Natal, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, Final Fantasy 13, Mass Effect 2 ect. They'll save it for later haha.

I agree, that would just hurt their own sales.

[DJWhizzkidd]

They will release it this year.

Saying they will postpone it because there have been other big releases this year makes no sense. There are big releases every year.

Gears will come out towards the end of November, it will be the last big release before Christmas.

It will have been 2 years by then which is plenty of time to make another instalment. I know this because I make big blockbuster games all the time.

[R J0K3R]

Great idea keeps the casual players happy as well as the hardcore players.

[Hooligunn]

They will release it this year.

Saying they will postpone it because there have been other big releases this year makes no sense. There are big releases every year.

Gears will come out towards the end of November, it will be the last big release before Christmas.

It will have been 2 years by then which is plenty of time to make another instalment.

Well yeah, it does. You really think it doesn't matter releasing a big blockbuster title in with a bunch of other big titles? Look at Call of Duty MW2. MW2 moves in, about 10 big games moved out to next year.

On top of that, the big competition is their own in house products. Bringing out Gears 3 on top of Halo Reach, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2 means marketing is stretched, and people have to pick and choose between your titles.

Besides, based on the current release schedule, it would have to come out late 2010. That means mixing it in with Natal and the games for that including Natal based Fable 3. Do you really think they want hardcore gamers buying Gears 3 when they're trying to push them onto Natal for an additional gaming experience?

Won't be 2010. You'll see an announcement this year, release next year. Besides, is it so bad that Gears 3 would get more than two years development time? They don't NEED it this year, so they won't use it this year. They'll save it for next year, give it the attention it deserves.

[DJWhizzkidd]

They can release it when they want.

Crackdown 2 comes out in June, Halo Reach in September. Alan Wake quite possibly does not even exist, though release dates currently say May.

I still see no reason at all why they would not release Gears 3 this year.

Natal is a whole different market. People that like Gears probably won't like Natal. Natal will be aimed at kids and women, like the Wii (spit).

[TAO Devil]

They can release it when they want.

Crackdown 2 comes out in June, Halo Reach in September. Alan Wake quite possibly does not even exist, though release dates currently say May.

I still see no reason at all why they would not release Gears 3 this year.

Natal is a whole different market. People that like Gears probably won't like Natal. Natal will be aimed at kids and women, like the Wii (spit).

Natal will be aimed at everyone. While not good for FPS, people will still be looking to get it this Fall/ Winter.

BTW, Reach is not coming September. Bungie always puts 9/1/???? as release date for any game, but they have never been on september 1st. sometimes not even september.

[< Profess >]

http://www.gearscon.com/sniperprog.jpg

Sniper Grade 1 (Bronze)
1) Get 50 headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.

Sniper Grade 2 (Silver)
1) Complete Grade 1 Requirements
2) 150 Headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.
3) Get a set amount of headshots with the Longshot in one public match with the sniper rifle. Requirement to achieve in non-Respawn modes is 4, Respawn modes is 8.

Sniper Grade 3 (Gold)
1) Complete Grade 2 Requirements
2) 300 Headshots total with the Longshot in public matches.
3) Kill a set amount of other players using sniper rifles in one public match with a headshot only. Requirement to achieve in non-Respawn modes is 3, Respawn modes is 6.

Sniper Grade 4 (Mastery)
1) Complete Grade 3 Requirements
2) Achieve 500 Headshots
3) Complete all Longshot Challenge Accolades

This method supports the many of you who I have seen gagging for Gears 1 style achievements based on weapons to show off your skill or love for that weapon.

It would probably be better if you had lots of achievement type milestones to complete for each rank and that X-amount of kills was just one of them.

At least that way you can have more meaningful ranks by working in stuff of the 'Get a set amount of headshots with the Longshot in one public match' vein. Just display that to the player on his stats as something like 3/15 milestones unlocked/completed.

I say as many as 15 since it might as well be extensive.

[baldbean]

I like this idea. Where's the poll?

[Chewbacca]

I'm trading in CoD2 today for Bioshock...1 reason I'm doing so is I hated all the MP crap that keeps kids entertained while in lobby's - This is pushing Gears towards CoD and to me that is a step in the wrong direction. We don't need all that stuff as we all know that Gears is kick ass enough without any distractions.

Ref Gears 3 coming this year...
If MS had any sense they would ship Nov this year. They need to keep the pressure on Sony and Nintendo. If they end the Year with Halo4, GoW3 & Natal the other 2 gaming companies will have to pull out some very big games just to just to prove that they are still in the market...It's smart marketing, as it gives MS the market share at the biggest time of the year - Xmas.

[TAO Devil]

If they end the Year with Halo4, GoW3 & Natal the other 2 gaming companies will have to pull out some very big games just to just to prove that they are still in the market...It's smart marketing, as it gives MS the market share at the biggest time of the year - Xmas.

AGHHH! It's not Halo 4! why do people keep saying that?

It's like "The Hobbit" In the LOTR series.

It's a prequel. Please stop calling it #4!

/Rant

Oh, and I would like to see it out this year but I doubt it.

[Chewbacca]

AGHHH! It's not Halo 4! why do people keep saying that?

It's like "The Hobbit" In the LOTR series.

It's a prequel. Please stop calling it #4!

/Rant

Oh, and I would like to see it out this year but I doubt it.

But it is the 4th Halo game, so as a quick ref people will call it Halo4 - Not really a big deal is it! Get over it, you will die young if your stressing about such nonsense!

[Simburgur]

But it is the 4th Halo game, so as a quick ref people will call it Halo4 - Not really a big deal is it! Get over it, you will die young if your stressing about such nonsense!

It's actually the fifth Halo game.

[yalnif]

im so pro, grade 4 mastery on sniper. but other than that, a nice idea.

[TAO Devil]

It's actually the fifth Halo game.

6th*

Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Halo: Reach

[TAO Devil]

But it is the 4th Halo game, so as a quick ref people will call it Halo4 - Not really a big deal is it! Get over it, you will die young if your stressing about such nonsense!

lol. I'm stressed all the time. Im 23, have a one year old, a wife, and just sunk myself in the hole $275k for 30 years.

this isnt stress. lol

[Chewbacca]

It's actually the fifth Halo game.

ok 4th FPS...Halo War don't count.....or at least to the Halo fan boys.

[TAO Devil]

ok 4th FPS...Halo War don't count.....or at least to the Halo fan boys.

It would still be 5th if you don't count Halo Wars

[Simburgur]

6th*

Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Halo: Reach
Oh right, yeah :p

ok 4th FPS...Halo War don't count.....or at least to the Halo fan boys.
^

[Chewbacca]

lol. I'm stressed all the time. Im 23, have a one year old, a wife, and just sunk myself in the hole $275k for 30 years.

this isnt stress. lol

Oh ok, I know how stressful it can be having a wife and kids...I have them too, I keep them in the back garden....under the new patio - She objected to the amount of time I spent gaming....

[yalnif]

Oh ok, I know how stressful it can be having a wife and kids...I have them too, I keep them in the back garden....under the new patio - She objected to the amount of time I spent gaming....

hahaha (10)

[TAO Devil]

Oh ok, I know how stressful it can be having a wife and kids...I have them too, I keep them in the back garden....under the new patio - She objected to the amount of time I spent gaming....

lol. thats where we differ. Im only allowed certain time slots to play if Im not playing with her.

[Hooligunn]

This is pushing Gears towards CoD and to me that is a step in the wrong direction. We don't need all that stuff as we all know that Gears is kick ass enough without any distractions.

It's not pushing it towards CoD though, because it's the unique Gears style version of it. It's kind of like challenges, but on a more community aware scale.

I do agree Gears is kick ass, but it does need this for the casuals and for people like me who like playing MP and having some sort of progression or things to work towards.

Besides Chewy, wouldn't you have liked an accolade for kicking my ass that day along with Sim on Ruins? 5-0 in like 5 minutes? Haha.

[Chewbacca]

It's not pushing it towards CoD though, because it's the unique Gears style version of it. It's kind of like challenges, but on a more community aware scale.

Besides Chewy, wouldn't you have liked an accolade for kicking my ass that day along with Sim on Ruins? 5-0 in like 5 minutes? Haha.

You said it....lol..no really it a move towards COD, it would be like COD saying we need a Weapon with a Chain Saw on it, everyone would go "oh that's so Gears of War"...

Not really, I don't care about things like that and without sounding like I think I'm boss, but I've played against some of the top players in the world and won many times - you and sim only got a mention cos your on here alot...For me it was just another, but with the added bonus of it being against a couple of Forum goers

Edit: It was Statis and then Highway.....

I play Gears because I love Gears, not for stats / Achievements or anything related, but I do like to win, but that's my competitive nature.

[SQuirrel147]

i am for this 100% i like the sniper stuff alot! good post.

[Chewbacca]

lol. thats where we differ. Im only allowed certain time slots to play if Im not playing with her.

more my wife works odd hours, mostly at night, so once my kids are in bed I've got nothing to do other then blast away until my bed time!

[TAO Devil]

more my wife works odd hours, mostly at night, so once my kids are in bed I've got nothing to do other then blast away until my bed time!

ahhhh. she a stay at home mom. I work 10 hours a day, so....... she wants HER time after work.

[anarchopie92]

You said it....lol..no really it a move towards COD, it would be like COD saying we need a Weapon with a Chain Saw on it, everyone would go "oh that's so Gears of War"...

Not really, I don't care about things like that and without sounding like I think I'm boss, but I've played against some of the top players in the world and won many times - you and sim only got a mention cos your on here alot...For me it was just another, but with the added bonus of it being against a couple of Forum goers.

I play Gears because I love Gears, not for stats / Achievements or anything related, but I do like to win, but that's my competitive nature.

Yes, but people would get over it. There are plenty of games now that borrow ideas from other games, people just need to get over it. Halo 3 has firefight, which is almost a mirror of Horde, but because they are Halo fans and not Gears fans, they enjoyed it on ODST. This would be no different, the gaming industry is collaborative after all.

[Chewbacca]

ahhhh. she a stay at home mom. I work 10 hours a day, so....... she wants HER time after work.

Dude I hate to tell you this but it's 2010, you got to get her ass out to work (in the fairness of equality of course ) so you can have more leisure/Gears time..lol!!!

[OverKill]

meh, sorry man....i'm not that into it

there's absolutely nothing wrong with the idea and i commend the creativity, but i don't feel like these kind of things are necessary

i've always been in favour of less is more type approaches...hell, i wouldn't even care if leaderboards and ranks existed in the first place on Gears

plus i know people will boost top tier accolades anyway

sorry for being the pessimist

[DragonAge]

It's an nice idea that's for sure.

But Epic should focus more with fixing the flaws instead of copying a basically unneeded feature of Modern Warfare 2

[Hooligunn]

plus i know people will boost top tier accolades anyway

sorry for being the pessimist

Bearing in mind you could only do these in public, that would be much tougher to do but I guess it might be possible.

And yeah OverKill, it's fine! It's an idea proposition, you don't have to agree with it haha.

[OverKill]

Bearing in mind you could only do these in public, that would be much tougher to do but I guess it might be possible.

And yeah OverKill, it's fine! It's an idea proposition, you don't have to agree with it haha.

judging by how easy it is to boost your way to rank 100 and to the top of just about every leaderboard on Gears 2, i'd say people could figure it out

[Inflamesforever]

this sounds like a good idea. i dont want full caracter customisation but if you reach 100 in level the i reacon you should recieve a medal on your character.

[Hooligunn]

It's an nice idea that's for sure.

But Epic should focus more with fixing the flaws instead of copying a basically unneeded feature of Modern Warfare 2

They can do both I'm sure :)

[I OU a Beatn]

Awesome idea, I love it.

[Ezio]

Very good idea,

[Rukey]

I love the idea, it's something to work towards more so than just killing one another. When people say "It's just a direct copy from MW2". It has the same basic principles... but when don't games companies copy from one another? Take things that work and implement them into a different context in your game. Horde mode / Zombie Mode / Firefight Mode. (All taken from the same pond as such).

Hooligunn's not saying "Lets copy exactly what infinity ward has done" but take what works the best and improve upon it, by making the game more interesting for players!

[SpasmaticMidget]

Awesome idea Hooligunn. I'd like them to be really difficult, so that it really means something when you get them. I like your example with the sniper, but I think the platinum accolade should be much harder to get.

[zzhobbit]

Great idea. I've seen a lot of similar sort of concepts (DarkAps mega thread, community Gears3 thread) but this is very well thought out and the levels of challenge like bronze, silver make it so you always have something to shoot for..hehe shoot for

[Brendy Boy]

Good idea, terrible examples. I don't want any power weapon accolades.

[TAO Devil]

Dude I hate to tell you this but it's 2010, you got to get her ass out to work (in the fairness of equality of course ) so you can have more leisure/Gears time..lol!!!

lol. My son is in the 97% of kids his age. He is tall, strong, and smart.

I LOVE my time at work... lol

He can yank me down to my knees if I'm not aware. He's only 1 year old and he's more than half of my wife's height.

Plus, she won;t get a job that pays half of what I make. I aint rich, but there isn't a lot of opportunities here.

[Hooligunn]

Good idea, terrible examples. I don't want any power weapon accolades.

Why not? They are part of the game, and a core part of the game even.

[Nonoru]

That's a great idea.This with also a theater-like mode,and bit more private custom and i would play endlessly xDD

[Jae2Fly]

the only one i see a problem with is the 3 v 1 one because the game can't really tell how many people you're going against... and if they all hit u with one shot one im sure you'll be down regardless . other than that GREAT IDEA!

[Hooligunn]

the only one i see a problem with is the 3 v 1 one because the game can't really tell how many people you're going against... and if they all hit u with one shot one im sure you'll be down regardless . other than that GREAT IDEA!

Sorry I should have been clearer than that.

I basically meant if you were the last person alive on your team against 3 or more people on the other team, and won (without killing any of those three with a power weapon).

[Simburgur]

(without killing any of those three with a power weapon).

Does that include the Lancer? :p

[Ghostofdelta2]

I like when awesome ideas are presented well on this forum. 5 stars!

[HunteDxEntitY]

Sounds pretty cool

[merlintt]

I liked the gow1 weapon achievments,the weapon accolades look cool and seem like a more natural progression from gow1 to gow2.

[Your Devastator]

Why not? They are part of the game, and a core part of the game even.

Agreed. Why the hell not? lmao

[anarchopie92]

Agreed. Why the hell not? lmao

Because the person that said that probably rarely picks them up, but that does not mean it should affect our experience! As long as there are accolades for the gnasher, I'm down (and yes, that 3 v 1 could be gnasher, just reiterating).

[Hooligunn]

Because the person that said that probably rarely picks them up, but that does not mean it should affect our experience! As long as there are accolades for the gnasher, I'm down (and yes, that 3 v 1 could be gnasher, just reiterating).

Oh yeah, course there would be. There would literally be an accolade progression tree for every weapon in the game.

[Spazzumes]

This sounds cool, I like the weapon progression accolades a lot. I made a thread with this kind of idea a while ago and your welcome to take some ideas from it if you want.

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=715505

[Your Devastator]

Oh yeah, course there would be. There would literally be an accolade progression tree for every weapon in the game.

there you go. if you don't use the weapon, it doesn't grow. simple enough. lol

[Samhain]

Great idea!

[Hooligunn]

there you go. if you don't use the weapon, it doesn't grow. simple enough. lol

Exactly! Which is part of my idea of showing off the type of Gears player you are. There is your customisation and individuality :)

[Minja]

They need something like Halo Waypoint. I loved the idea of it, but hated the fact that it was Halo instead of Gears. IMO I think every multiplayer game should have something similar to that.

[DeanXxNwOxX]

Like the idea, but i feel its a bit to call of dutyish

[Hooligunn]

Like the idea, but i feel its a bit to call of dutyish

A little, I guess. But it's very very different in it's core approach I feel. Just because it's similar to the challenge system doesn't mean it has the same outcome - while it does have an "emblem" and "rank" system based on doing certain things, it doesn't give you an indepth look into the player like this system does.

Besides, things like Street Fighter 4 and other games did this emblem / rank stuff based on how you play long before MW2. I believe DOA4 did it, loads of games have really.

[Hooligunn]

They need something like Halo Waypoint. I loved the idea of it, but hated the fact that it was Halo instead of Gears. IMO I think every multiplayer game should have something similar to that.

The thing you have to remember about Halo is it has multiple games actively played, including across multiple genres. Also the universe (currently) is more fleshed out than the Halo one.

I'd LOVE to see a Gears waypoint style thing, but I don't think the Gears universe is ready yet.

[Simburgur]

The thing you have to remember about Halo is it has multiple games actively played, including across multiple genres. Also the universe (currently) is more fleshed out than the Halo one.

I'd LOVE to see a Gears waypoint style thing, but I don't think the Gears universe is ready yet.

Yeah, first they need to employ me and release an RTS.

[Hooligunn]

Yeah, first they need to employ me and release an RTS.

You could never make an RTS, you can't do and command all the intimate actions of an RTS with just a B button.

[Time]

thats the best idea for GoW 3 that i heard, i hope they gonna make it this way

[Hooligunn]

thats the best idea for GoW 3 that i heard, i hope they gonna make it this way

Wow dude, thanks. That's a pretty awesome thing to say.

[TxSIZZx15]

ya i like the idea its sumthin to work on in multi player besides jus killing ur opponnet

[Gears Guy]

This is a great idea. I don't have time to read it now so I will subscribe and read it later. :p

[Hooligunn]

This is a great idea. I don't have time to read it now so I will subscribe and read it later. :p

Did you end up reading it Gears Guy? Whadya think?

[MrAnderson62]

A great idea Hooligunn. I read the whole thing and I wholeheartedly think that this would help. It would give us something to strive for besides just achievements and rank. I love the Scorcher and I could show it off! This is such an awesome idea I'm not sure how to put it into words...:D

[Hooligunn]

A great idea Hooligunn. I read the whole thing and I wholeheartedly think that this would help. It would give us something to strive for besides just achievements and rank. I love the Scorcher and I could show it off! This is such an awesome idea I'm not sure how to put it into words...:D

Haha thanks. But yeah, that would be the idea. You'd be able to show off your love for the Scorcher in your top five emblems, and people would know your good with it. I'd be desperately trying to get my Longshot Master accolade personally haha.

[Ghostofdelta2]

I would love some Gorgon based achievements in Gears 3.

[Ghostofdelta2]

*Can you please make a poll OP, so I can vote this as AWESOME?

[OrtanaIV]

Personally think that this in Combination with Create-A-Character would be the best way to go. Very awesome idea Hooli. :)

[anarchopie92]

The possibilities are truly endless with this idea (maybe you could even get accolades for completing Insane Horde or something, haha). I wish I could make awesome games, I'd put this in asap (well after all the gameplay stuff).

[dustanbrd]

love the idea

[Hooligunn]

*Can you please make a poll OP, so I can vote this as AWESOME?

Okay, I'll add one now. :)

EDIT: Appears the OP is too old, won't let me add a poll so late into the thread's life. Should have thought about it first really, but I was more interested in people's input on it originally!

[Chappe11e]

Epic should bring back online multiplayer weapon-based achievements.

Master Sniper- 100 Kills with a Sniper Rifle.

Veteran Sniper- 500-1000 kills with a Sniper Rifle.

[that one guy]

I absolutely love this idea.

[yalnif]

JORDO had a thread going which was to do with perks, and i thought your idea you have here, could work with SMALL perks for this game, say i got 1000 kills with the sniper, i could have a faster reload, but less damage, or mroe damage for a faster reload. just an idea i thought i'd put out there.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Real worthwhile post, and great idea.

I personally would love to show off this stuff!

[Hooligunn]

JORDO had a thread going which was to do with perks, and i thought your idea you have here, could work with SMALL perks for this game, say i got 1000 kills with the sniper, i could have a faster reload, but less damage, or mroe damage for a faster reload. just an idea i thought i'd put out there.

Meh. I don't like the idea of perks for Gears, I hate COD xD

I'll have a look at his idea though.

[Ghostofdelta2]

Meh. I don't like the idea of perks for Gears, I hate COD xD.

As Do I.

Your idea seems more like Halo/ODST system, except more to do with rank.

It is bigger better and more badass (now CLiffyB will want to implement this for sure ;))

[SpasmaticMidget]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat if, when you get the platinum accolade for a weapon, you unlock a golden version of the weapon?

[Hooligunn]

It is bigger better and more badass (now CLiffyB will want to implement this for sure ;))

Absolute GENIUS! xD Anytime we want something changed in the Gears franchise, we just say "it'd be bigger, better and more badass". BAM. Sold.


Whaaaaaaaaaaat if, when you get the platinum accolade for a weapon, you unlock a golden version of the weapon?

More than possible, though to be honest, the super hardcore players would have a gold version of every weapon and I could imagine it looking rather ridiculous lmao.

[Simburgur]

NO PERKS!

Anything unlockable should be cosmetic only.

EDIT: I still support the idea in the OP. I just saw the word 'perk' and got all emotional.

[Ezio]

Absolute GENIUS! xD Anytime we want something changed in the Gears franchise, we just say "it'd be bigger, better and more badass". BAM. Sold.



More than possible, though to be honest, the super hardcore players would have a gold version of every weapon and I could imagine it looking rather ridiculous lmao.

Well how about a COD styled 'Red Tiger' but instead of that pattern it would be either all black with a red Crimson Omen around it or all red with a black Crimson Omen or you could have the respective medals attached to your armour :).

[-Raven-]

Digg it.
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[Renegade_X]

Love it. You should be an achievement writer.

[Sh0ttyBoi]

Oh boy! Another awesome idea! See Gears has so much potential to be the best game ever with things like this.

[Mk3ndr1k]

While I do realize this thread is old, and would normally ask for people not to necro or whatever...

OP, I want to shake your hand. This idea is amazing.

[Simburgur]

While I do realize this thread is old, and would normally ask for people not to necro or whatever...

OP, I want to shake your hand. This idea is amazing.

Old? It was posted like two weeks ago :p

[Ezio]

Old? It was posted like two weeks ago :p

I was thinking the same.

Btw on a side note Sim do you like Blue Waffles? :)

[Simburgur]

I was thinking the same.

Btw on a side note Sim do you like Blue Waffles? :)

I like waffles of any variety. I am not bias towards any colour, ethnicity, faith, or sexual orientation.

EDIT: Okay, blue waffles are bad. The others are okay.

[Hooligunn]

Love it. You should be an achievement writer.

Haha. Rod would kill me, as he is famous for wanting to come up with puns and such for his achievements.

I'm glad to see so many people like this idea though. It just goes to show that this does appeal to the core of what Gears is - that personal feeling it has to it. I'm happy with the fact that there is a way for Gears to be original in it's approach to customisation that Gears players like, but isn't the old generic "change your look" or "start with this weapon / ability" approach :)

It would be awesome if this happened in Gears 3, but we'll have to see I guess.

[Mk3ndr1k]

Old? It was posted like two weeks ago :p

Be happy i'm not screaming "necro" or something. ;)

But you have a point, give it another week and I might say it.

[Ezio]

Haha. Rod would kill me, as he is famous for wanting to come up with puns and such for his achievements.

I'm glad to see so many people like this idea though. It just goes to show that this does appeal to the core of what Gears is - that personal feeling it has to it. I'm happy with the fact that there is a way for Gears to be original in it's approach to customisation that Gears players like, but isn't the old generic "change your look" or "start with this weapon / ability" approach :)

It would be awesome if this happened in Gears 3, but we'll have to see I guess.

This idea is really great imo I just hope the 'good' accolades are unboostable (is that even a word lol) because it will be like the Cod Titles and Emblems which IMO are great and I like the way they give you your own individuality.

[Hooligunn]

Be happy i'm not screaming "necro" or something. ;)

But you have a point, give it another week and I might say it.

But the thread isn't dead, it's got replies on almost every day! Necroing a thread is like reviving a thread with at least a week, maybe even two weeks of no replies surely? :)


This idea is really great imo I just hope the 'good' accolades are unboostable (is that even a word lol) because it will be like the Cod Titles and Emblems which IMO are great and I like the way they give you your own individuality.

They would all require you to play Public Matches, which helps to an extent. Unfortunately for a system like this, if it is to retain it's legitimacy and it's true "view" into how someone plays, allowing Private Matches to count would cause mass boosting and therefore ruin the system.

To be honest, IW should have known better than to have Private Matches count towards emblems and ranks. Again, it ruined the system. While it's not as awesome for people who play a ton of private matches, at least with a Public Match only system, you keep the worth of the whole thing.

[Simburgur]

Be happy i'm not screaming "necro" or something. ;)

But you have a point, give it another week and I might say it.

My thread was almost a year old before it stopped hovering around the front page. People still don't call necro when it's bumped xD

Anyway, where's my off topic accolade? hmm?!

EDIT: I have decided that we need forum accolades.

[Ezio]

But the thread isn't dead, it's got replies on almost every day! Necroing a thread is like reviving a thread with at least a week, maybe even two weeks of no replies surely? :)

Or when a guy on a forum goes to the last page and presses X on it. :(

[Mk3ndr1k]

My thread was almost a year old before it stopped hovering around the front page. People still don't call necro when it's bumped xD

Anyway, where's my off topic accolade? hmm?!

EDIT: I have decided that we need forum accolades.

That would be sick. And touché for all those necro comments.

[Ezio]

Forum accolades would be very cool but could you imagine all those troll kids :| it would be like the IW forums also Flak would need a few more moderators.

[Simburgur]

Forum accolades would be very cool but could you imagine all those troll kids :| it would be like the IW forums also Flak would need a few more moderators.

*cough*me & hooli*cough*

[Hooligunn]

EDIT: I have decided that we need forum accolades.

As said in the OP, there would be community based accolades too and the ability to show off your selected Top 5 accolades in your forum profile.

But yeah, having forum accolades right now would be awesome haha.


*cough*me & hooli*cough*

Simburgur my friend, you moderating would mean anyone who didn't put I LOVE WAFFLES AND THE CHAINSAW IS UNDERPOWERED at the end of every post would be banned. Not good. xD

[Renegade_X]

Haha. Rod would kill me, as he is famous for wanting to come up with puns and such for his achievements.

I'm glad to see so many people like this idea though. It just goes to show that this does appeal to the core of what Gears is - that personal feeling it has to it. I'm happy with the fact that there is a way for Gears to be original in it's approach to customisation that Gears players like, but isn't the old generic "change your look" or "start with this weapon / ability" approach :)

It would be awesome if this happened in Gears 3, but we'll have to see I guess.

As long as getting a certain number of kills doesn't give the player an advantage, such as the thermal scope or FMJ in COD.

A simple achievement that recognizes your pro abilities is all I want.

Also, Rod disappointed me with Gears 2 achievements. Too much Horde and Campaign, not enough multiplayer weapon ones.

[Simburgur]

As said in the OP, there would be community based accolades too and the ability to show off your selected Top 5 accolades in your forum profile.

But yeah, having forum accolades right now would be awesome haha.



Simburgur my friend, you moderating would mean anyone who didn't put I LOVE WAFFLES AND THE CHAINSAW IS UNDERPOWERED at the end of every post would be banned. Not good. xD

But everybody loves waffles.

But srsly, forum accolades kthxnaow.

[BATMAN]

Love the idea man. Just another great idea by Hooligunn

[Simburgur]

Love the idea man. Just another great idea by Hooligunn

Yeah this is good, but, what do you mean by 'another'? The whole Lancer thing didn't go so well for him :p

[BATMAN]

Yeah this is good, but, what do you mean by 'another'? The whole Lancer thing didn't go so well for him :p

I must of missed his lancer idea :p.....Let me guess, he thought it was overpowered.

[Hooligunn]

As long as getting a certain number of kills doesn't give the player an advantage, such as the thermal scope or FMJ in COD.

A simple achievement that recognizes your pro abilities is all I want.

And that's all this is. This is just a way I came up to show off how you play, how good you are and have things to work towards without actually physically affecting how the game looks or plays at it's core. :) It's personality without actually making you have personal character models, perks or any other game changing modifiers.


Also, Rod disappointed me with Gears 2 achievements. Too much Horde and Campaign, not enough multiplayer weapon ones.But the names were good! "Better Wrapped in Beacon", "Escort Service", and "Freebaird!" are just some of the awesome ones I can remember off the top of my head.


Yeah this is good, but, what do you mean by 'another'? The whole Lancer thing didn't go so well for him :p


I must of missed his lancer idea :p.....Let me guess, he thought it was overpowered.

Uhh excuse me, I said I thought the Lancer "as a package" was overpowered, and everyone agreed that as it is now, the excessive stopping power needs a reduction. So technically, I kinda had a... kinda successful idea xD

For the record, I still feel the Lancer is too strong in all areas, but there you go ;)

[WUTANE]

Great idea, but would this also be displayable in-game. You weren't too clear on that, if you mentioned it at all... Lol.

[Simburgur]

OMG THE LANCER IS OP!!11!

No, not really.

[Renegade_X]

And that's all this is. This is just a way I came up to show off how you play, how good you are and have things to work towards without actually physically affecting how the game looks or plays at it's core. :) It's personality without actually making you have personal character models, perks or any other game changing modifiers.

But the names were good! "Better Wrapped in Beacon", "Escort Service", and "Freebaird!" are just some of the awesome ones I can remember off the top of my head.





Uhh excuse me, I said I thought the Lancer "as a package" was overpowered, and everyone agreed that as it is now, the excessive stopping power needs a reduction. So technically, I kinda had a... kinda successful idea xD

For the record, I still feel the Lancer is too strong in all areas, but there you go ;)

Still think "Seriously..." is the greatest achievement name ever.

Also, My love for you is like a truck and THIS IS ANNEX!

All from Gears 1.

[Hooligunn]

Great idea, but would this also be displayable in-game. You weren't too clear on that, if you mentioned it at all... Lol.

Well I only had the idea displaying them in the in-game Career Record (which I did mention) but not ingame itself.

You could do that with a SF4/COD style system of Emblems and a Rank, but I was thinking more about it displaying in your career record only in the game. So people could still view it (click on your gamertag in the player list after the game and up it pops) but it wouldn't be shoved in your face.

Though, I totally would NOT be against it showing up in game, as it would add the personality there too. It's just a question of if people would want that extra popup on screen or not.


Still think "Seriously..." is the greatest achievement name ever.

Also, My love for you is like a truck and THIS IS ANNEX!

All from Gears 1.

Yeah they were awesome. I'll never forget how shocked I was to find out that him appearing on some TV show and constantly saying "Seriously?" was the true reason for the name the achievement got, not just because the kill count requirement was so high!



OMG THE LANCER IS OP!!11!No, not really.

And this, ladies and gents, is exactly why Simburgur should NOT be a moderator xD

[Simburgur]

And this, ladies and gents, is exactly why THE LANCER IS SO OP!!! SRSLY WTF?!?!

Calm down dear, it's only an assault rifle.

[Ezio]

Calm down dear, it's only an assault rifle.

LOL.........:cool:

[BATMAN]

Uhh excuse me, I said I thought the Lancer "as a package" was overpowered, and everyone agreed that as it is now, the excessive stopping power needs a reduction. So technically, I kinda had a... kinda successful idea xD

For the record, I still feel the Lancer is too strong in all areas, but there you go ;)

I don't think I ever seen your thread about this topic, so this is my first time hearing about this. I like the lancer how it is, but I can understand the argument about it being overpowered. :cool:

[Hooligunn]

I don't think I ever saw your thread about it , so this is my first time hearing about this. I like the lancer how it is, but I can understand the argument about it being overpowered. :cool:

For the record, I didn't think the DAMAGE was overpowered, I just think it's too strong in all areas for a starting weapon. The fact I've seen so many highly skilled players switch from the weapon is testament to that imo.

Anywho, that's a discussion for a different thread haha.

[Jae2Fly]

Sorry I should have been clearer than that.

I basically meant if you were the last person alive on your team against 3 or more people on the other team, and won (without killing any of those three with a power weapon).

in that case it i can see it working. it does feel like an achievement when you just took out 3 guys by yourself :cool:

[skratchy99]

Looks cool.

[Christm77]

I think it sounds brilliant, I'd love to see this incorperated into the game. I'd prefer though that if it was put it, have the accolades and achievements only unlockable in public games, they could easily be abused in private games.

[Amusei]

I quite like this idea, I was quite disappointed at there being no public only based weapon achievements. :(

Another thing I found strange with Gears 2 that if it's a more Team-driven game, then why is there no Revive achievement?

[anarchopie92]

I quite like this idea, I was quite disappointed at there being no public only based weapon achievements. :(

Another thing I found strange with Gears 2 that if it's a more Team-driven game, then why is there no Revive achievement?

That was in the first game. Between Gears 1 + 2 every weapon is cover, IIrc.

[Amusei]

That was in the first game. Between Gears 1 + 2 every weapon is cover, IIrc.

I know it was in the first, I'm simply saying it's strange that the more team-based of the two wouldn't have it also.

[sprunky]

gears of warfare 3

[lordfiendfred]

nice idea pude

[EleoIsDead]

Cool ideas bro. (For real.)

[NUCLEARxMANIACx]

Great idea they should totally do this i hope EPIC appreciate how much time you've spent on this idea and i hope they put this in the next game whenever the next game, end of this year i hope.

[Hooligunn]

Great idea they should totally do this i hope EPIC appreciate how much time you've spent on this idea and i hope they put this in the next game whenever the next game, end of this year i hope.

We can only hope! :)

(Sorry for the partial revival, was reading replies to this after not checking for ages and thought I'd get more feedback :D)

[jonesoobala]

Similar to Pins and Insignias in Bad Company, yes! I would love the more in depth feel to the achievement system. They don't have to count towards your gamerscore but just your record. Collecting those awards would be fun and increase re-playability.

[Ghostofdelta2]

I would also like to see 3 separate levelling systems, one for MP, one for Horde and one for Campaign.

[Hooligunn]

I would also like to see 3 separate levelling systems, one for MP, one for Horde and one for Campaign.

VERY VERY good idea. I never considered that. That would also allow you to show off your individual skill in all three areas of the game. Nice one!


I quite like this idea, I was quite disappointed at there being no public only based weapon achievements. :(

All MP accolades would be public only, I just forgot to state it. :)

[SpasmaticMidget]

I think you should do a tournament where you don't sign up with a team, you sign up on your own, and then you are randomly assigned four teamates. Then you and your new team go for the gold :D Would be a good way to meet new people in the forums, and it'd be good fun too :p

EDIT: Oh hang on, I'm in the wrong thread :eek: . I never looked at the title, I just saw Hooligunns name and thought this was the GCON thread. Whoops :o . Anyway yeah, you should do this for GCON Hooligunn. I can't be bothered to repost this on the correct thread :rolleyes:

[Hooligunn]

WRONG THREAD! xD But anyway...


I think you should do a tournament where you don't sign up with a team, you sign up on your own, and then you are randomly assigned four teamates. Then you and your new team go for the gold :D Would be a good way to meet new people in the forums, and it'd be good fun too :p

Everyone says that and it IS something we ever so briefly touched on.

However, the issue is too many clashes of personalities / skill levels and teams would fall apart, causing tons of dropouts and a really bad response to the tournament.

I am considering doing a tournament open night sometime soon for people to find teammates from the forum though, but no promises on that. I need to find the time to organize that, which I am severly lacking right now lol.

[Renegade_X]

I think you should do a tournament where you don't sign up with a team, you sign up on your own, and then you are randomly assigned four teamates. Then you and your new team go for the gold :D Would be a good way to meet new people in the forums, and it'd be good fun too :p

EDIT: Oh hang on, I'm in the wrong thread :eek: . I never looked at the title, I just saw Hooligunns name and thought this was the GCON thread. Whoops :o . Anyway yeah, you should do this for GCON Hooligunn. I can't be bothered to repost this on the correct thread :rolleyes:

No! I spent too much time getting to know good players on the forums to let it all go to waste. :p

[SpasmaticMidget]

Anyway, back onto topic. I still think this is an ace idea, but I also think the Platinum accolades should be really hard to get. To the point that you'd actually be scared of people with a Sniper Platinum, and you'd make it your main point to stop them getting the Snipe, and same with the other weapons. It should really mean something.

[Musuca]

This would be awesome.

Would show off your specialities.

[jonesoobala]

Pins for making a round of horde without taking damage add points to your Horde Awards.

[Hooligunn]

HEY BUNGIE! YOU STOLE MY IDEA! :D


Bungie hopes to help alleviate that problem with "Commendations," described as persistent medals that reflect player actions over an extended period of time. For example, if the game tracks that you spend most of your time battling with a sniper rifle, your Commendations show that. The profile can eventually represent a snapshot of your Halo play style and provide a better understanding amongst friends and strangers where player strengths are. Oh, and along the way to earning Commendation medals, you'll of course be earning credits.

"I can look at your service record, Patrick," explained Smith, "and see that you have a ton of assists and a ton of progress in your wheelman Commendation, so I know that you like to be a support player, you like to drive vehicles. That's your preferred style. One of the things that we really want to do a better job with Reach is [highlighting] the guys out there who do like their Halo maybe differently than, for instance, I like mine. I like head shots, I like killing people with a sniper rifle, I like all that stuff. But there are guys that we've encountered along the way who just love to drive; they just want to drive people around. We haven't really done a great job of reinforcing that kind of behavior in the past and the Commendation system is one way we're doing that."SOURCE ARTICLE (http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/703448/Bungie-Reveals-Halo-Reachs-All-Encompassing-Player-Investment-System.html)

Lmao. It's like exactly my idea, and they had it too. That means my idea is on the same quality wavelength as Bungie. Can't argue with that :D

[HMFIC08]

i think its a great idea should start a poll on this one

[anarchopie92]

Lol. Seriously, this would be amazing.

[SpasmaticMidget]

i think its a great idea should start a poll on this one

Why? As if anyone would vote no :rolleyes:

I really really want this to be in Gears 3. It's so much better than a standard ranking system, because it shows off your specialites. And it allows for a customisation element without actually changing the core gameplay, which suits Gears more than a class system or whatever.

[PSYCHOTIX]

looks like a great idea...would love to see this implemented

[Hooligunn]

Why? As if anyone would vote no :rolleyes:

I really really want this to be in Gears 3. It's so much better than a standard ranking system, because it shows off your specialites. And it allows for a customisation element without actually changing the core gameplay, which suits Gears more than a class system or whatever.

:D

I love the support for this thread. I hope the fact Bungie have now done something similar, they can gauge the popularity it has in Halo Reach with the popularity it's having here and maybe include it. :D

[Gnasher.]

nice idea i like it :)

[mugen 828]

I don't want to be the one dude, but this stuff bugs me for some reason.

I just want achievements like this, not a whole thing that people ONLY go for and quit when they don't get the weapons they want.

Don't get me wrong, you thought this out and I do like it.
I hate gears becoming like call of duty and halo.

I came up with an idea called "war history" which just lets you add some of your favorite stats and a charecter saying to your stats card that people can see after the game.



I'm cool with something just like that, not the whole badge shabang....but who knows I might like this if I am presented it in real life.

[Hooligunn]

I don't want to be the one dude, but this stuff bugs me for some reason.

I just want achievements like this, not a whole thing that people ONLY go for and quit when they don't get the weapons they want.

But with the whole system, you could implement something that means quitters face serious punishment (maybe even a permanant accolade if you constantly quit out that shows your a quitter lol!). Actually, a forced accolade "mark of shame" in your top 5 would be pretty good for people like that.


I hate gears becoming like call of duty and halo.

Which is why I came up with this - something unique that adds personalisation without weapon unlocks or physical appearance changes.


I came up with an idea called "war history" which just lets you add some of your favorite stats and a charecter saying to your stats card that people can see after the game.

Well technically, that would come out even worse. Having stats rather than badges work towards means people would worry about their stats ALL THE TIME, rather than getting that badge when they get there. If anything, the effect of stats being even more prominent than currently would be worse as far as I can tell.

By the way, who cares if your one of the few people against this idea! It's a good thing to have people be critical of a system :)

[Gbanja]

The best thing about this is they could easily keep adding more challenges every few months, since theyre not achievements.

I vote yes on this system.

[Madcat124]

I want this for some reason. Seems very nice.

[AJ Crawford]

I love the idea. This kind of thing is pretty much the only thing I liked about Halo 3 (and the Theatre) and Call of Duty.

[Ghostofdelta2]

This is one of the best threads on Gizza 2.

[Nitewalkar]

I like the idea. Its like mixing halo waypoint with the barracks from call of duty, or the stats pages from battlefield bad company 2. I love the stat-o-matic pages with the sig-o-matics. How it can show kills with each weapon, and each vehicle. It really helps the player to plan and maintain their character and complete challenges to level up efficiently. Hope gears adopts it.

[jonesoobala]

With this the War Journal would be complete.

[oIIRecKlessIIo]

I love this idea man, I really hope they add into gears 3, cause I would be in LOVE! :D

[Addnan]

I love the idea, I hope they implement it. I don't want it to be associated with achievments though. I don't want to have to do accolades to get certain achievments. That would be quite annoying.

[Sh0ttyBoi]

I hope this idea is put into Gears 3!

[SpasmaticMidget]

Posting here again just to register my approval for this idea. Honestly, it's really seriously awesome. Truly.

[TAO Devil]

Bumping for pure awesomeness!

[TRELON]

Bump for sheer awesomeness.

EDIT: TAO beat me to it and said almost the same thing strangely enough. LOL.

[Hooligunn]

I love the idea, I hope they implement it. I don't want it to be associated with achievments though. I don't want to have to do accolades to get certain achievments. That would be quite annoying.

Nah, they were always meant to be two seperate entities. The Accolades provide a more in depth award system without affecting the actual achievement list so to speak.

Plus, you can add more of these challenges in TUs alongside the usual addition of normal achievements. So if the community were crying out for something like..

HORDEy Mother of God
In one session, complete waves 1-50 on Insanity without failing more than 3 times

(In other words, you have to go from wave 1-50 without hitting restart wave more than 3 times. You cannot quit the session and restart from where you left off).

They could then add this new challenge to the system. It allows you to respond to what your community want to show off about, without upsetting the more casual side of your fanbase by making lots of achievements outside their ability levels.

[Comrade John]

Add chainsaw dueling won, and chainsaws to the accolades, as well as boltok headshots, and then I'd be happy.

[SkyFire]

Sounds good. Really like the sniper idea, mainly cause i've already got nearly 900 headshots with it :D

[Hooligunn]

Add chainsaw dueling won, and chainsaws to the accolades, as well as boltok headshots, and then I'd be happy.

They would all be in there. Especially things like chainsaw duels.

If your a master of chainsaw duels, I want this system to allow you to show that off. If you got the Tier 4 (Mastery) Chainsaw duel badge, you can then put that in your profile "Top 5" and everyone can instantly realise how good you are at winning Chainsaw duels (and also how good you are at mashing B ridiculously fast xD). Of course, you could put any Tier badge in your profile, but obviously Tier 4 just shows you really can win a TON of chainsaw duels.

[Simburgur]

HORDEy Mother of God

You never cease to amaze me with your terrible puns :p

[Hooligunn]

You never cease to amaze me with your terrible puns :p

It could have been worse. Much worse. I have a talent for this worst puns on this forum, and I won't hesistate to keep my crown! xD

[GSXR600]

I'm against that yet again. Why? Simple, this isn't Call of Duty.

[Warking14]

I'm against that yet again. Why? Simple, this isn't Call of Duty.

So adding this system would make the next game Call of Duty?

Either im retarded or you're retarded




I'm not retarded.

[SQuirrel147]

So adding this system would make the next game Call of Duty?

Either im retarded or you're retarded




I'm not retarded.

this game me serious LOL"S lolololololololololol

[anarchopie92]

I'm against that yet again. Why? Simple, this isn't Call of Duty.

FYI, Developers are constantly collaborating.

[TRELON]

I'm against that yet again. Why? Simple, this isn't Call of Duty.

I can tell you for a fact that COD did not invent sliced bread. And it didn't invent an in-game award system either.

[GSXR600]

So adding this system would make the next game Call of Duty?

Either im retarded or you're retarded




I'm not retarded.
What I meant, it would have the same feeling. I know the differences. Gears never had "Accolade System" and it shouldn't.


I can tell you for a fact that COD did not invent sliced bread. And it didn't invent an in-game award system either.
Really? I'll try to act shocked. I didn't start playing video games yesterday.

[TAO Devil]

What I meant, it would have the same feeling. I know the differences. Gears never had "Accolade System" and it shouldn't.

A LOT of games have an accolade system.

This would be no different, but these would not award perks. Just a medal

[TRELON]

Really? I'll try to act shocked. I didn't start playing video games yesterday.

Well, you're doing a good job acting like it.

[Musuca]

Love the idea, Gears 3 needs more ways to show to others your mad skillz

especially my half way across the map no scopes

[GSXR600]

Well, you're doing a good job acting like it.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[xD OLIVER xD]

Best Idea !!! Epic APPROVED !!! xD

[Hooligunn]

What I meant, it would have the same feeling. I know the differences. Gears never had "Accolade System" and it shouldn't.

That's a fair view. What would you suggest to add more player progression to Gears without it being like CoD or Halo or what have you? Or would you just leave it as it is?

[TAO Devil]

That's a fair view. What would you suggest to add more "progression" to Gears without it being like CoD or Halo or what have you? Or would you just leave it as it is?

thats the point, isn;t it?

It wouldn't make it like Halo or COD. BioShock has this same set-up for ITS MP as well.

Do so many goals, get exp. and perks.

Just leave out the exp and perks. Make it just for fun and a self-proposed goal.

[TRELON]

That's a fair view. What would you suggest to add more "progression" to Gears without it being like CoD or Halo or what have you? Or would you just leave it as it is?

His view is actually very wrong. The achievements in Gears 1 were some form of accolade system because they were tied into power weapons and specifics like headshots.

What you're proposing is the same idea but greatly enhanced and NOT tied in with achievements.

So Gears did have an accolade system.

[Hooligunn]

His view is actually very wrong. The achievements in Gears 1 were some form of accolade system because they were tied into power weapons and specifics like headshots.

That's quite true actually..

[TAO Devil]

His view is actually very wrong. The achievements in Gears 1 were some form of accolade system because they were tied into power weapons and specifics like headshots.

What you're proposing is the same idea but greatly enhanced and NOT tied in with achievements.

So Gears did have an accolade system.


That's quite true actually..

very nice catch.

forgot to even compare the 2 games......

[Addnan]

I was talking to my friends about this and at first they were a bit hesitant, because they thought its going to be like COD. Then they were like as long as it is just stats and medals then it will be good. If you unlock something because of, then its a big nono, e.g skins, camos etc.

[Hooligunn]

I was talking to my friends about this and at first they were a bit hesitant, because they thought its going to be like COD. Then they were like as long as it is just stats and medals then it will be good. If you unlock something because of, then its a big nono, e.g skins, camos etc.

That's basically why I made this idea, because I'm not particularly fond of the idea of customisation of characters in Gears either.

[SpasmaticMidget]

This, a double disc setup, and something to do with lag are the three things I think would be most crucial to Gears 3's success.

[Warking14]

This, a double disc setup, and something to do with lag are the three things I think would be most crucial to Gears 3's success.

I dont understand why people want two disks... surely the only reason it should happen is if there isnt enough room on one disk, how would it make the game better.

[Hooligunn]

This, a double disc setup, and something to do with lag are the three things I think would be most crucial to Gears 3's success.

HAHA! I love how you put my idea up there as one of the most crucial things Gears 3 needs for success along with fixing the network issues. That's pretty awesome (and probably way too much praise for it lol!) :D

[yalnif]

my sniping and torque performances earlier earn top rank in each

[SpasmaticMidget]

HAHA! I love how you put my idea up there as one of the most crucial things Gears 3 needs for success along with fixing the network issues. That's pretty awesome (and probably way too much praise for it lol!) :D

I'm serious, it's an awesome idea. Gears wouldn't benefit from a full on customisation style ala Modern Warfare. But this way you could specialise in something without giving one player an advantage over another. You just know thousands of players are going to be playing like crazy trying to get that Sniper Platinum. It gives you something to work for on the Multiplayer/competitive side of things. Achievements don't really prove anything for competitive players.

[Kaylila]

What would you say about incorporating this idea (which is completely awesome!) into a Gears Universe version of Halo Waypoint?

Would it be fine if I mention this and credit you?

[Sanjeev]

Progression and Netcoding. More variety and greater deal of customizability in Multiplayer.

Basically, I want Epic to take the customizability of the Halo series and apply that to Gears, while keeping the core gameplay.

Introduce the notion of Progression and the "Gamer Drug" mechanism (XP in COD, Medals and subsequent stat tracking on website for Halo) into the multiplayer.

AND TEST MATCHMAKING IN ALL REGIONS OF THE WORLD BEFORE SHIP.

Campaign wise? Variety, variety, variety. Flesh out the universe and more open environments.

[Addnan]

What would you say about incorporating this idea (which is completely awesome!) into a Gears Universe version of Halo Waypoint?

Would it be fine if I mention this and credit you?

The two together would be amazing!

[Wafflez]

Gears of War is all about small scale, personal combat and that feeling of truly beating someone one on one. Based on the fact that Gears is not really a customisable game, and I doubt that will change in the next game, so we need to look to alternative ways to add our own personality and customisation into Gears. Presenting my idea:


Imagine being able to click on a gamertag and have a full Career Record pop up. This includes kill death ratios overall and in various game modes, time played ect - kind of like the GearsofWar.com site offers now, but in the game itself and with a little more depth. This also includes showing your Rank insignia, Rank number and total experience bar for example. You could also tab right to get the game stats from them, which is offered now.

But here's where the "Accolade System" comes in. This would show on your Career Profile, have a full list of your earned accolades on the site, and your Top 5 Accolades (as selected by you) would appear under your Avatar and such on the forums. The Accolade system is like mixing Halo 3's medal system with Call of Duty's challenge system, small images or icons with challenges tied to them. By doing certain things in game, you can earn an accolade but they don't (mostly) come easy. For example, your not going to get an accolade every headshot you get.

Here's a couple of examples of the challenge based accolades I threw together with the first one being easy difficulty, the second is medium difficulty, and the third is a tough one.

So that offers a wealth of challenges for people to work towards, some easy, some very tough. And obviously a number would be next to each accolade to show how many times you've earned it. But that's not the limit to the accolade system.

You can also have various ones for each weapon, so you can put your favourite weapon (and how good you are with it) in your Top 5 accolades, showing your skill with your best weapon. That'll let people who are awesome snipers, fantastic shots with the Torque Bow or ninja grenade taggers (on people not walls!) to get their recognition and share that across their Gears identity wherever they are in the community.

Here's an example of my idea of how the weapon system would work. Please bear in mind this is purely an example system, so don't look so much at what I say, rather than the idea. Here is the idea under the Sniper Rifle progression:

So this system covers not only showing off your extra skill level in various areas to seperate you from the crowd, it also shows your playing style and allows you to share that community wide both in the game and outside of the game. On top of this, this could be combined with a Rank system that Gears 2 currently has, and the achievement list Epic would put together to offer a true sense of achievement, personality and progression all in one.

Accolades provide the challenge, personability, and challenge progression.
Rank provides the progression and tracking of your progress in the game.
Achievements provide the general pushes and challenges for all players.

Your Career Record pulls this, along with your stats, into one location. This injects personality into your Gears gaming without modifying the core of the game based on the current system of using normal character models (rather than customising them) and no weapon unlocking.

Combine that with the fact you could proudly display your top 5 or so accolades on the forum under your profile, and you have a real TRUE representation of how you play Gears both in and out of the game. I think that would be much better than any kind of character customisation, and any kind of progression system, in terms of it's reflection on you as a player.


Thanks for reading. Share your thoughts below!



In order for your whole sniper idea to work out. Players are gonna have to be able to spawn with their sniper like in MW2.

[Addnan]

I just thought if your friends a fo can see your accolades then surely some people will be distracted from the objective and just try to complete challeneges?

[Hooligunn]

In order for your whole sniper idea to work out. Players are gonna have to be able to spawn with their sniper like in MW2.

Not really. If you got on a map like All Fathers Garden or Canals, it's more than possible. It would just depend on how many maps have dual snipers in Gears 2 of course.


What would you say about incorporating this idea (which is completely awesome!) into a Gears Universe version of Halo Waypoint?

Would it be fine if I mention this and credit you?

Of course :)

[x FeArLeSs c x]

woooooow i lovee this ideaa

[TAO Devil]

bumping for more demand!!!!

[Chewbacca]

No, don't. Shinny badges and Daisy on your chest armour have no place in Gears. It's about a battle to save man kind, not how many freaking badges you collect along the way. I've said it before and I'll say it again, keep the child like EXP/progress away from this rocking mature series. I like ideas for Gears 3, but adding stuff from Halo/Cod or even Battlefield isn't 1 of them.

[CivilKnight]

dont u think 100, 300, 500 headshots is too litle?
cause we will most likey play this game for months or years so,....yeah,,,,, do u get my point

[TRELON]

No, don't. Shinny badges and Daisy on your chest armour have no place in Gears. It's about a battle to save man kind, not how many freaking badges you collect along the way. I've said it before and I'll say it again, keep the child like EXP/progress away from this rocking mature series. I like ideas for Gears 3, but adding stuff from Halo/Cod or even Battlefield isn't 1 of them.

I'm gonna have to completely disagree with this post.

Multiplayer without a progression system gets real old real quick. Good multiplayer games always have something for you to work towards other than leaderboards, of course.

EPIC realised this and decided to give us the 100 levels.

It should be related to the story somewhat like in setting or design. But the multiplayer has to be longlasting.

I agree with you in that unlocks that affect gameplay are a definite no.

But personal awards and bonuses have no bearing on gameplay whatsoever and keep the majority of online gamers satisfied with the multiplayer's longevity.

This is definitely the way forward for GOW.

[SP410]

i <3 this idea :D

[WhackaCrow]

I love this idea!! :D If this system were to be implemented then Gears 3 would be so fun to play - like challenges in the CoD games.. please add it, EPIC :D

[Chewbacca]

I didn't like Gears because I got a badge for a double kill, I like it cos they blew up in to a million pieces and the blood hit the walls and floor around it....This is what gears is about, not trying to hide with a certain weapon trying to get a certain acolade.

I'm all for a long grind to get an unlock/achivement but not a accolade system any thing like the FPS shooters that have already done it all before! Gears want's and needs to be different to appeal to a market drenched in Call of Duty or Halo. It' can't be different and be the same.

[Trickery]

Multiplayer without a progression system gets real old real quick.

I played Gears classic for years. I play Gears 2 for months. If the multiplayer is good, the only progression you should need is your kill count/KD ratio going up.


Imagine being able to click on a gamertag and have a full Career Record pop up.

I'm fine with this. We can already see this information but making it more integrated and accessible would be nice. The accolades are terrible though. They may be fun for people who need carrots on sticks dangled in front of them for them to get anything accomplished, but it's just annoying for people who already can. MW2 is probably the worst when it comes to things like this.

Snipe a guy in the head: HEADSHOT -> LONGSHOT -> ONE SHOT, ONE KILL

Every. Single. Time.

[TAO Devil]

I didn't like Gears because I got a badge for a double kill, I like it cos they blew up in to a million pieces and the blood hit the walls and floor around it....This is what gears is about, not trying to hide with a certain weapon trying to get a certain acolade.

I'm all for a long grind to get an unlock/achivement but not a accolade system any thing like the FPS shooters that have already done it all before! Gears want's and needs to be different to appeal to a market drenched in Call of Duty or Halo. It' can't be different and be the same.

why not? It basically had it for Gears 1 with the weapon achievements.

Maybe a medal for outstanding marksmanship? lol.

It's just for you, really. But it can be seen on your War Journal

[Walter Lebowski]

Seriously seriously seriously EPIC please give serious consideration to this idea. Gears is the shizzle but the MP realy really does nay demands some sort of challenge/accolade/medal system. It just keeps people playing the game for longer and more importantly makes all those hard spent hours feel worthwhile. Even Gears 1 had the 100 of whatever kills achievements but obviously given Halo and MW2 that just seems out of date now.

Please make the GOW3 MP something can play plAy for hundreds of hours not tens.

Much love and respect

[infestedandy]

Sounds like something that would work out well if implemented correctly. However, I feel that the weapon system needs some serious tweaking. I'm sick and tired of spawning in the back and being unable to get the weapon I want. People hog certain weapons and it puts others off because they NEVER get a crack at that particular weapon. Some may say that, "You're awful with that thing" but I've seen it and it's more often than not the player's inability to pick up said weapon.

I think Epic needs to do something akin to what Halo is now doing, Battlefield, and Call of Duty. I'm not sure how they'd make it work for balance's sake, but make it so you can choose certain weapons. Have custom loadouts with an experience system that actually works well. There's a lot more that can be elaborated on, but I feel this would eliminate some issues rather than relying on the age-old "pick up the weapon that's randomly spawning at this location" scheme.

[Nitewalkar]

these accolade systems have proven themselves as a valuable resource in a game. i think to seriously compete with longevity of such games as mw2 and bc2, gears3 needs to have one.

the bar was raised. they need to keep up

[Luiiizy]

awsome idea , definately should have this kind of system in gears 3.

it would give players something to do once you basicly get every achievement except for the ones that take time such as seriously or lvl 100.

[Wisdom Thumbs]

Oh jesus, I support this thread at gunpoint.

Luv it, luv it, luv it.

[Deuce of Spad3]

Dude I support this... Oh my.. I really hope they put this... Yo Epic, if your looking at this, I swear you better put this. This can give me more reason to keep playing. Epic, please?

[GSXR600]

I'm against it, and have expressed my reasons.

[Deuce of Spad3]

I need it! need it!... need it!. From Gow1 to present I don't get enough recognition for what I accomplished or done, from the clutch sniper skills to multikills for the winning game. This is a confidence booster to me. But in all honesty, as much as I want it, I doubt it's going to happen in such a small amount of time :'( and it's more sad because this is the last Gears game to end the trilogy so if we don't see this now, we're never going to see it again.

[Skilled]

Call of duty: MW2? Halo 2? Gears 1? So far, that's what I see gears 3 is.

[TAO Devil]

bumping for awesomeness!

[MeloSon]

I like it!

[Hooligunn]

bumping for awesomeness!

HAHA! Are you hoping if you bump it enough they'll put it in the game? xD

[TAO Devil]

HAHA! Are you hoping if you bump it enough they'll put it in the game? xD

oh yeah! plus, it links to my customization thread!

[Nonoru]

HAHA! Are you hoping if you bump it enough they'll put it in the game? xD

Honestly i hope they will.The idea is really good and interesting.
Could keep me playing for long :p.

[HempStCrew Don]

One of the best idea I have heard for GoW3. Would love to see something like this...way better than custom character models and what-not.

Kudos

[Hooligunn]

I'm going to revamp the OP sometime over this weekend / next week. Going to make it a little clearer and add a few more examples based on people's suggestions.

[FixHostLagSwitch]

i think this is a great idea as well as Tao's