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D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:19 AM
Hello to all,

I noticed something about hosting and the bullet damage. Let me explain:
Often I play with a friend, sometime he host, sometime I do.
However, there seems to be a difference between the amount of damage he does per hb bullet on his host and the damage i do with the same bullet on my host.
He sais it only takes him 3 (!) triggers with the hb to down, and I can clearly see thats true. It takes him about 1.5 secs, and he is not aiming for the head.
On my host, it certainly takes longer for me to down someone.

How is this possible?
Since when has bullet damage something to do with being host or not. Cant be cause of lag. Lag only makes it harder to hit a target. And on my host I am not able to down someone that fast.

Can someone explain this?

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 09:22 AM
Your friend just has a faster trigger finger than you. Its nothing to be ashamed of.
There is always someone faster.

< Profess >
12-21-2009, 09:22 AM
Can you get a video of this?


Your friend just has a faster trigger finger than you. Its nothing to be ashamed of.
There is always someone faster.
He said per-bullet.

Dr. Chung
12-21-2009, 09:22 AM
i wont believe you unless i try it myself in which i wont be wasting my time to do so.

Chewbacca
12-21-2009, 09:24 AM
The amount of damage a bullet deals is the same on ANY connection - Even in a 5sec lag game, you still 1 shot them. It's different connections speeds that process that information quicker / slower and hit detection that creates the feeling that you deal more or less damage. Don't confuse lag with bullet damage.

D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:24 AM
Fatser finger, maybe. But why doesnt he down others that fast without being host ona good connection.

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:25 AM
you cannot down someone with 3 hammerburst bullets. It's not possible.

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 09:26 AM
He said per-bullet.

It is impossible to down someone in 3 HB bullets. Even for host.
His friend is obviously a little confused and/or he can't count.

D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:26 AM
I mean, When i host he also got ahost like connection, yet he doesnt down people as fast as on his host. He even sais that this is bull****. He sais it takes zero effort.

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:27 AM
The fact remains -

You can't down someone with 3 shots from the hammerburst.

Dr. Chung
12-21-2009, 09:27 AM
It is impossible to down someone in 3 HB bullets. Even for host.
His friend is obviously a little confused and/or he can't count.

yeah thats why i shook this thread off said "huh?" and then said whatever.

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 09:28 AM
Fatser finger, maybe. But why doesnt he down others that fast without being host ona good connection.

His shots arent as accurate off host and with him shooting the HB as fast as he is, it is very hard to control. Tell him to turn the vibration off on his controller.
It wont help much but it does make it easier to aim.

D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:28 AM
It is impossible to down someone in 3 HB bullets. Even for host.
His friend is obviously a little confused and/or he can't count.

3 triggers, not 3 bullets. Per trigger is like 3 bullets. Never noticed?

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:29 AM
3 triggers, not 3 bullets. Per trigger is like 3 bullets. Never noticed?

No its not. Each pull is a bullet, or you can hold it for a slow rate of fire.

you can see it clearly when you hold the trigger. One bullet a time.

Chappe11e
12-21-2009, 09:29 AM
I need some video evidence to believe this.

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 09:29 AM
3 triggers, not 3 bullets. Per trigger is like 3 bullets. Never noticed?

The HB fires in bursts of 4 bullets. ;)

D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:32 AM
The HB fires in bursts of 4 bullets. ;)

ok, whatever. thank you. at least someone know it isnt one bullet per trigger.

Chewbacca
12-21-2009, 09:33 AM
DJ I think it hits out 2 bullets in 1 shot when you hold down the LT rather then jam it.

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:34 AM
Im testing this when I get home because I trust no one.

D Shiznix
12-21-2009, 09:35 AM
I bet some of you were in a game with that dude, ghos7 187 or so. you know how fast he downs. that speed is what I am talking about. (atleast, he downs me fast)

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Im testing this when I get home because I trust no one.

Lol, when you go home. There will be no xbox to test it on. ;)

Dr. Chung
12-21-2009, 09:37 AM
what the H E double hockey sticks is this guy talking about?

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Lol, when you go home. There will be no xbox to test it on. ;)

I have no idea what you mean by that. Are you saying I will have been burgled?

Dr. Chung
12-21-2009, 09:43 AM
I have no idea what you mean by that. Are you saying I will have been burgled?

LOL at "burgled"!!!

< Profess >
12-21-2009, 09:44 AM
Im testing this when I get home because I trust no one.
You are correct.

The ammo counter clearly shows 1 shot fired per-trigger pull. The bullet-graphic under the weapon doesn't accuratly represent the shots you are firing. Following that graphic the Lancer can be seen to occasionally fire 2 or 3 shots per-trigger pull and single shot depleted on the number counter.

DJWhizzkidd
12-21-2009, 09:59 AM
The only burst fire weapon in Gears is the Gorgon.

when I said I trust no one I meant "I trust no one except Profess"

Sgt.Sorrow
12-21-2009, 10:00 AM
The only burst fire weapon in Gears is the Gorgon.

when I said I trust no one I meant "I trust no one except Profess"

The hammer-BURST! should be burst fire IMO

Zaxuk
12-21-2009, 10:03 AM
The only burst fire weapon in Gears is the Gorgon.

when I said I trust no one I meant "I trust no one except Profess"

The gorgon uses the same clip as the hammerburst.

http://www.onlifezone.com/ongame_recommend/1681912/page/files/attach/images/108/912/681/001/hammerburst.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/346/0/c/Gorgon_Pistol_by_OliverBrig.jpg

So in theory picking up a gorgon should give you more hammerburst ammo.

Sgt.Sorrow
12-21-2009, 10:04 AM
the gorgon uses the same clip as the hammerburst.

http://www.onlifezone.com/ongame_recommend/1681912/page/files/attach/images/108/912/681/001/hammerburst.jpg

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/346/0/c/gorgon_pistol_by_oliverbrig.jpg

so in theory picking up a gorgon should give you more hammerburst ammo.

cool pic at top;)

< Juggernaut >
12-21-2009, 01:12 PM
The only burst fire weapon in Gears is the Gorgon.

when I said I trust no one I meant "I trust no one except Profess"

And me. ;)