Annoyed with the shotgun

[mortablunt]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

[DenyThisFlesh]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

Reduce the effectiveness of a weapon, because some people suck at using it? No thanks. Just use the hammerburst instead.

[Shufflesalong]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.
the better your connexion is the better your shotgun is although i do agree with you it's way too powerful

[mortablunt]

Reduce the effectiveness of a weapon, because some people suck at using it? No thanks. Just use the hammerburst instead.

I would, but the chainsaw is too essential to my style.
I kick as at gears 1. I would literally do so well with the lancer that I would die because I ran out of ammunition. Then, I would start pistol whipping when the ammo ran out.

[xxxTxxxRxxxExxx]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

LOL you sure you played Gears 1? Because when I played, the Longshot and the Gnasher were the ONLY weapons used. Seems like you got your games backwards :cool:

[DenyThisFlesh]

LOL you sure you played Gears 1? Because when I played, the Longshot and the Gnasher were the ONLY weapons used. Seems like you got your games backwards :cool:

I was thinking that too. Gears 1 is mostly shotgun and sniper, but not Gears 2. Gears 2 is shotgun and hammerburst with torquebow and boomshot thrown in there for good measure. Oh, and don't forget planted frags.

[SergeantParadox]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.
No thanks the only thing they need to fix with it is the consisnty. Its mostly fine the way it is just use the hammerburst alot, you can beat shotgun people very easy doing that.

[mortablunt]

What modes do you people play?
I'm guardian/KOTH.

[o iiMNC Inc o]

LOL you sure you played Gears 1? Because when I played, the Longshot and the Gnasher were the ONLY weapons used. Seems like you got your games backwards :cool:
Yep, the sniper and shotty are the only things used in Gears 1, literally. Every once in a while I'll get sawed or lancered down, but for the most part it's either get gibbed with the gnasher or active downed with longshot. Now, if he is talking about people 2-piecing, that definitely happens a lot more in 2.

[RockChucker]

The current shotgun is too inconsistent and long ranged. I wish it had the point of aim, range, and fire rate of the GOW1 gnasher. Epic didn't want GOW2 to be all rushing and shotgun so they made a lot changes. If they changed the shotgun back then all they would have to do now would be to bump up the lancer damage, combined with stopping power, that might achieve the balance of play that they want.

[Lazy Bum 808]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

erm i have never seen such a noob before. The shorgun is the main gun in both GoW1 and 2. Its not that hard too use. Don't say anything about the shotty, its the second most hardest gun to use, second only to the sniper rifle.

[»TheHitMan«]

The shotgun sometimes shoots cannonballs, othertimes jellybeans.

[BlacBeast]

Strategize people why complain about a gun when you can easily beat a shot gun from far range... come on now do you really think running around using a lancer or hammerburst in the open is really going to work against a hard aiming shot gun from mid range 2 shot gun bullets if all shells (5) hit you downs you off-host with host its just 1 lol...

Take cover or Die

[o iiMNC Inc o]

The shotgun sometimes shoots cannonballs, othertimes jellybeans.
It always seems like mine has the jelly beans while the other team has the cannonballs, even though I have a pretty solid connection.

[JV6sic6]

Kinda makes you wonder, what part of cover based shooter don't they understand. Like in Guardian, I stay in cover until I'm given a reason not to. Of course I'm also picking off people at a distance that are running around. I've downed ALOT of people that way.

[Blind Reaper]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

They shouldn't change the game because not everyone is good at it. Try harder.

[mortablunt]

They shouldn't change the game because not everyone is good at it. Try harder.

When I first began playing Gears of War multiplayer, I did.
I literally would play with my brother in execution. I would try to use my shotgun. I would only get at most about one kill and hour. When I started experimenting to find a better way, I quickly found that the lancer with its accuracy and chainsaw made an excellent counter. I trained with the lancer in warzone. With time, I became insanely good I used to live so long in annex matches that I would run out of ammo. I became a master of active reloads and headshots, even becomming able to beat the shotty at its own range.
Now in GOW 2, I am faced with a huge problem. The tactics that served me well in GOW 1 no longer work. The shotgun is too overpowered of a weapon. Despite long training in horde, I am still only at the level of a nub who has played about 100 rounds of execution. I am still very intelligent. I often kill my enemies by luring them into ambushes and chainsawing them. That is my story.

[Zoob]

You have the games backwards and its better with all shotguns

[TheBigRobbyRob]

Kinda makes you wonder, what part of cover based shooter don't they understand. Like in Guardian, I stay in cover until I'm given a reason not to. Of course I'm also picking off people at a distance that are running around. I've downed ALOT of people that way.

I play the same way. Im not great with the shotty, so i really dont use it much. I shake it up by using the lancer/hammerburst to down them when they are out of shotty range.

Many (actually most) players have forgotton that this is a tactical shooter

[mortablunt]

Tactical brilliance is how I used to survive. Now I just can't cut it against the new god shotgun.

[Marcus666]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

well like i always say
if you can't beat them
COOK THEM!!!!

[UrTimeSlipsAway]

I think you have things backwards, Gears 1 was nothing but shotgun, and sniper rifle. Gears 2 is about the shotgun, hammerburst, frags, smokes, melee, smokes, melee, shotgun, smokes, melee and did i say melee?r

[mortablunt]

Gears 2 isn't melee.

[Blacklight412]

The hammerbuster is a good weapon to use to fight shotgun users because if they start to get to close you can melee them, and it's a good mid range gun. The lancer is more of a support gun, since it's good at long range combat. The only problem is it's to weak so you won't get many kills from shotting people most of your kills will come from your chainsaw.

[DMACandCheese2223]

nice thread but the sniper isnt overpowered hb is and i think hb is getting worse then the shotgun is at this point never thought that was possible

[TheBigRobbyRob]

The only problem is it's to weak so you won't get many kills from shotting people most of your kills will come from your chainsaw.

........If your hitting them with your bullets, you should down them before they get in range of your chainsaw (due to the stopping power). If most of your kills comes from the chainsaw, you are probably a horrible shot and you probably die alot.

[xvxSICKNESSXVX]

I am serious getting annoyed with this game's multiplayer. I love horde and guardian. However, the shotgun seriously pisses me off. It's just too accurate and too powerful. I am a fan of the gears series, and love the multiplayer. It's just that I hate that one gun dominates the whole damn thing. In gears 1, I could survive through a combinate on lancer, chansaw, and pistol whip. Now in gears two, only two guns matter: shotgun and sniper, in that order. We're now forced to use the shotgun, which is a gun that I have never been able to use despite extreme training. I propose a title update that reduces its accuracy by 25% so that it's no longer the only gun that matters.

Am i playing the same game???

[oxxxMELVINxxxo]

The current shotgun is too inconsistent and long ranged. I wish it had the point of aim, range, and fire rate of the GOW1 gnasher. Epic didn't want GOW2 to be all rushing and shotgun so they made a lot changes. If they changed the shotgun back then all they would have to do now would be to bump up the lancer damage, combined with stopping power, that might achieve the balance of play that they want.

well said rock. I think the balance they intended was with the hammerburst.

[Oda]

you just have to get the drop on on people faster and cut them down.. shotguns can be taken care of they have a delay when firing and when they try to two piece you it leaves them wide open so just try dodging their attacks and attacking right away and you should be fine

[somebody]

Gears 2 isn't melee.

I loled at this

[mortablunt]

^And I pronounced strong disagreement.

[BrendanL]

The shotgun is garbage in Gears 2. I don't know what you're talking about.

[docshakes101]

The shotgun is perfect if anything it needs more power.

[xplicit09]

yea shotgun should stay just how it is if u cant use oh well learn its a game my 5 year old son could pick up the control and kill people wit the shotty u noob

[Noob Friendly]

yeah this makes alot of sense.... diminish the power of a weapon so you can be better.... extensive training??? really?

[mortablunt]

Yes, trust me, I have attempted to learn the shotgun. I used to play long uninterrupted of execution. I would play fro easy 11A.M. to 7.P.M, and I wouldn't get good with it. I got tired of being killed and changed to a rifleman. Now I am capable of pulling my weight in warzone.

[gearskings24]

The shotgun is garbage in Gears 2. I don't know what you're talking about.yeah..even with the increase rof you can still see the shotty flaws...the hit detection is no where on the level as gears 1 was..something about the blindfire just isnt quite right

[mortablunt]

^The blindfire isn't right. Today, I got blown apart by a guy who wasn't even facing me. Also, I've started playing annex with the shotgun, and I've started to improve. Maybe it was the environment in which I tried to learn that made it unusable.

[Rivus]

You have to be trolling. I find that the weapons in Gears are quite balanced. The shotgun is an upclose weapon, what do you want, the shotgun to shoot pillows? The Lancer has a hefty clip and does enough damage, the hammerburst is good still as well. All the weapons are balanced and serve their purposes, just because you can't play the game with just one weapon doesn't mean that the other ones are overpowered.

Also, the only thing wrong with Gears is the lag. If the lag on Gears was equal to the lag seen in other shooters such as Halo or COD during multiplayer, just wow it would probably be the number one played game on xbox live.

[mortablunt]

I am not a troll, unlike you, as your past activities indicate

[Omnios]

the real annoying thing in gears 2 in the melee, and ink nades.

[mortablunt]

^And nade mines, and the inconsistent shotgun. I can either be really good, or absolutely dreadful. It's all about the connection.