Where Do Locusts Come From!

[ShogoukiEva01]

i cant but think about this wen gears of war is mentioned but where do the locusts come from? are they already there in the ground or is it like a war of the worlds outcome where the y just come here a million years ago and now ther striking?:confused:

[Uday23]

i cant but think about this wen gears of war is mentioned but where do the locusts come from? are they already there in the ground or is it like a war of the worlds outcome where the y just come here a million years ago and now ther striking?:confused:

we are not sure, there are lots of ideas going around about that, but we do know that the locusts game from under ground on E-day, and that they are not Aliens(for sure) and most likely they are native to Sera, we will find out the rest later

[ShogoukiEva01]

thanx very much for the info i just really could'nt understand. if anyone has more info plz post!:D

[MooseKnuckles]

thanx very much for the info i just really could'nt understand. if anyone has more info plz post!:D

No one has more info than Uday :D

[rEDChief55]

i thought i read it somewhere whether they have been inside Sera the whole time or came a while back and are just "emerging", i dont remember which one which really doesnt help, but that i think i read it means theres an answer

[Flaming Hornets]

i thought they had been underground for sometime and are just coming now as the humans have low resources to fight.
Some people believe that the Locusts are some kind of monkeys, but i personally believe that they are mutated human beings. That had to flee underground to survive.

[psyco blade]

i heard that the come from the under ground i heard someone mention it in game informer but im not sure if it is true

[Xenomorph]

who cares!? Play the game and find out!!! lazy bugger!!!!! ;)

[CliffyB]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg

[HELLFIRE V1]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg
LOL.....Nice, this explains a lot.

[MooseKnuckles]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg

So THATS where they come from, cool :D

[ShogoukiEva01]

thanx cliffy i understand now...lol

[rEDChief55]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT, but now the only question is......where do babies come from??

[Uday23]

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT, but now the only question is......where do babies come from??

babies come from locust left-overs........i thought everyone knew that:p

im so bored!

[FortuneWookie]

i still dont' get it haha, seriously can sumone help me out wit this picture

[seph]

i still dont' get it haha, seriously can sumone help me out wit this picture

I hope you are feigning stupidity.:rolleyes:

[FortuneWookie]

I hope you are feigning stupidity.:rolleyes:

i really don't get it, can sumone help me out

[seph]

i really don't get it, can sumone help me out
"... and THAT is where babies come from, sweetie."

I hope that made sense for you.

[RIGOR_MORTIS]

People, you're not LOOKING at the picture. It's obvious he's trying to say that they were born inside Sera. They are an ancient society who had been living below ground for many years. They are like the dinosaurs here but they didn't go extinct. They are underground dwellers, hence why the females are blind. They're like moles. They came up because Serans were too noisy when they were fighting eachother. All they want is peace and quiet down there. They're kind of like neighbors that call the cops when you're having a party except they don't call the cops. They come over and kill you.

[GearsManiac123]

People, you're not LOOKING at the picture. It's obvious he's trying to say that they were born inside Sera. They are an ancient society who had been living below ground for many years. They are like the dinosaurs here but they didn't go extinct. They are underground dwellers, hence why the females are blind. They're like moles. They came up because Serans were too noisy when they were fighting eachother. All they want is peace and quiet down there. They're kind of like neighbors that call the cops when you're having a party except they don't call the cops. They come over and kill you.
:eek: :eek: how did you know!! CliffyB couldnt even say it that good!!:p

[Soul]

Actually, they are more LIKE the cops, they hear something they don't like and kill you for it :p

[psyco blade]

whats the point in finding out evrything before you get the game save some story for the game people!!!

[Soul]

whats the point in finding out evrything before you get the game save some story for the game people!!!

We are just having fun making guesses and makin stuff up

[psyco blade]

We are just having fun making guesses and makin stuff up
i know i just hope there not right:D

[Flash1087]

...They're kind of like neighbors that call the cops when you're having a party except they don't call the cops. They come over and kill you.

I'm in a band, you have no idea how glad I am I don't live next door to some Locusts.

I actually always figured there were waiting for when humanity was at their weakest to strike. Wars had been raging on Sera for years and years, what better time to attack the humans than after they've already started killing each other?

[psyco blade]

I'm in a band, you have no idea how glad I am I don't live next door to some Locusts.

I actually always figured there were waiting for when humanity was at their weakest to strike. Wars had been raging on Sera for years and years, what better time to attack the humans than after they've already started killing each other?
yeah i think im related to some!!

[SkateXer99]

They were light dwellers, but were pushed to the underground of the earth. Now they're coming back for revenge.


That came up using context clues.

[JohnWayne360]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight ;) Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks

[Uday23]

^^^Very nice! i like it!

[MooseKnuckles]

Woah, John Wayne kicks ass :D

[JohnWayne360]

Thanks guys, I added (edited) some content to my post that I think u guys might like.

[Uday23]

Thanks guys, I added (edited) some content to my post that I think u guys might like.

cool, i read that too, btw just so u know the Locust's bred the Brumak's from guerillas, so they technically arent pure locusts, check my "locust creation" thread

[FortuneWookie]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight ;) Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks

HOLY 5H!7!! THAT COULD B RIGHT! like we are evolved mole people lol

[Soul]

HOLY 5H!7!! THAT COULD B RIGHT! like we are evolved mole people lol

Except we cant dig worth a shizkerbizket (thats my word :p)

[FortuneWookie]

Except we cant dig worth a shizkerbizket (thats my word :p)

well its my word now ;) j/k i won't take it lol, thats funny

[CliffyB]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight ;) Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks

Uuuuuh. Wow.

This is some crazy stuff. Keep thinking. :)

[Uday23]

Uuuuuh. Wow.

This is some crazy stuff. Keep thinking. :)

see even Cliffy thinks its good, keep it up bro! you could be on to something

[psyco blade]

see even Cliffy thinks its good, keep it up bro! you could be on to something
is that realy cliffyB? this is a serious question.

[Scoopable]

is that realy cliffyB? this is a serious question.
Nah Epic just gives Super Mod to anyone named cliffy :D

[psyco blade]

Nah Epic just gives Super Mod to anyone named cliffy :D
im not trying to be dumb but are you being sarcastic?

[Uday23]

im not trying to be dumb but are you being sarcastic?

that is indeed the REAL CLIFFYB! im serious!

check his other posts, they all are full of funny stuff and cool info!

[psyco blade]

holy s**t this is freaking awsome!!!

[Scoopable]

lol.. haven't you seen interviews with Cliffy? he's all about the games, the players, and being a lil kid!

I believe him wearing this bunny suite had to do with promoting unreal
http://www.quartertothree.com/features/doubletime/cliffyB_and_levelord/cliffyb-rabbit2a.jpg

I mean you gotta be dedicated to put that thing on

I bought the cliffyb bunny shirt freakin sweet :D

[Flash1087]

Cliffy B is one of few men in the world manly enough to wear a bunny suit and not look like a total dip****.

[Shifty]

It's a little late but I think you got some good ideas JohnWayne 360. More on the serious side as opposed to some of the more "what the hell? Was he serious?" theories that have been popping up all over the net. Kudos dude.

[soda]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg
AHA!
So locusts are a mutant cross between a stalk and a baby!

[seph]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight ;) Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks

That is indeed some good thinking, bro. Best theory someone have ever come up with so far, and that is a fact. Good job!

[JohnWayne360]

Thanks dude, everyone.

[Jarmen]

I heard on one of the radio-casts, Cliffy was talking about the Locusts. I believe he said at first their idea was having them come from space. Then they thought, nah thats dumb everyone does that, so they thought of having them actually being a race underground that has been there for a long period of time. Then Cliffy says that they released War of the Worlds and he thought... SH*T, this looks like we were copying them...

so maybe the Locusts came long ago from space and planted their offspring there to mutate and evolve and to become a civilization and eventually bust out and take over Sera..? :confused: :confused:

[Uday23]

I heard on one of the radio-casts, Cliffy was talking about the Locusts. I believe he said at first their idea was having them come from space. Then they thought, nah thats dumb everyone does that, so they thought of having them actually being a race underground that has been there for a long period of time. Then Cliffy says that they released War of the Worlds and he thought... SH*T, this looks like we were copying them...

so maybe the Locusts came long ago from space and planted their offspring there to mutate and evolve and to become a civilization and eventually bust out and take over Sera..? :confused: :confused:


yeah most of us have heard that pod cast, its really informative!

[GearsManiac123]

I heard on one of the radio-casts, Cliffy was talking about the Locusts. I believe he said at first their idea was having them come from space. Then they thought, nah thats dumb everyone does that, so they thought of having them actually being a race underground that has been there for a long period of time. Then Cliffy says that they released War of the Worlds and he thought... SH*T, this looks like we were copying them...

so maybe the Locusts came long ago from space and planted their offspring there to mutate and evolve and to become a civilization and eventually bust out and take over Sera..? :confused:
u never know! but as of right now, JohnWayne is definatly in the right direction for a possible correct theory!!:) and that podcast was VERY informative!:D

[JohnWayne360]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight ;) Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks


Guys, one more thing I forgot to add to my theory is the following. Coming back to the Idea of Imulsion, it occurred to me that there might be a striking parallel between current-day gasoline (a product of crude oil) and Imuulsion. Quite simply, crude oil is also known as "fossil fuel." That rings a bell because "fossil" pretty much means it's been there for ages. It's safe to asume our oil comes from almost prehistoric times, why would imulsion be any different? Perhaps the Locust are a race that evolved around it (they do have some Dinossauric features, such as tough hyde, claws, shells), and perhaps found a way to "harvest" it. I mean C'mon, animals that come from underground gotta have at least a minimal knowledge of geology. Our prehistoric animals could have avoided extinction if they were any good at digging, something the Locust excel at, lending veridity to their strategy for survival during the tactical nuking of Sera. Anyways, prehistoric fuel, prehistoric race, intelligent beings, it's a match made in hell. It seems that during the Pendulum Wars, the pendulum itself swung too hard in their direction.

[GearsManiac123]

Guys, one more thing I forgot to add to my theory is the following. Coming back to the Idea of Imulsion, it occurred to me that there might be a striking parallel between current-day gasoline (a product of crude oil) and Imuulsion. Quite simply, crude oil is also known as "fossil fuel." That rings a bell because "fossil" pretty much means it's been there for ages. It's safe to asume our oil comes from almost prehistoric times, why would imulsion be any different? Perhaps the Locust are a race that evolved around it (they do have some Dinossauric features, such as tough hyde, claws, shells), and perhaps found a way to "harvest" it. I mean C'mon, animals that come from underground gotta have at least a minimal knowledge of geology. Prehistoric fuel, prehistoric race, intelligent beings, it's a match made in hell. It seems that during the Pendulum Wars, the pendulum itself swung too hard in their direction.
hmm....very interesting! good addition to the already good theory!:) your heading in the right direction! everything connects with another and explains why the Locust look how they do, and what their connection to Imulsion is. very observant! keep it up!!:)

[SkateXer99]

i cant but think about this wen gears of war is mentioned but where do the locusts come from? are they already there in the ground or is it like a war of the worlds outcome where the y just come here a million years ago and now ther striking?:confused:

My theory is they used to be the outside dwellers, but something pushed them into the ground, now they're back for revenge.

[Cover is a friend]

Perhaps a natural disaster pushed the Locusts underground and ruined the face of the planet. The Serans arrived and began to pump out Imulsion as a ultimate energy source. And as the Locusts only resorce was being drained away from them, th Pendulem wars started. The noise from the pendulem wars drew the Locusts to the conclusion that the planets surface was again habitable. Now they wish to destroy the Serans, reclaim thier planet, and regain control of thier precious energy source.

[hOld_Th3_pIcKle]

My head is burning with so mucch knowledge. John Wayne pwn us all!

[mkk316]

Im curious as to how advanced the Locust are. I mean, they're smart enough to breed the Brumaks, and fuse functional weapons to them, then these guys are pretty freakin' smart. So not only are they vast in numbers, absolutely without fear and mercy, but they're intelligent too. Can you imagine a more intimidating enemy to fight? As to their origins......what JohnWayne360 said ;)

[LeBron]

Maybe there is an intelligent class that we haven't seen yet!

[EPD2006]

I think John Wayne is really on the right track, especially about them datic back to pre-historic Sera times. It is indeed quite possible that Imulsion as a resource meant for the Locusts to become what they are. Now about their intelligence, as John stated that they have production to create their technology, which in terms means they possess mass production, so part of their underground places must be populated with machinery which enables mass production. I have not yet come across info of them have robot's or androids working the production lines and most Locusts you get to fight are armed, strong, and mean. But for machinery operation they do not need a Locusts which can bend steel with his buttcheeks. So they must have a weak form worker class.

Which would seem logical to keep the war machine going, even if they're confident in winning. Besides in every war in every form there are those who remain behind and do not fight. For me it doesn't make sense that an intelligent race such as the locusts would go to war with all there numbers, since intelligence and free thought would spwan a certain individuality in social behaviour. So regarding the Locusts I believe there could be in the underground a part of their civilisation, for it makes no sense for intelligence to be neglected by attacking a world (the world above) with all and everyone effectively risking extinction should things not go their way. It's probably like this tho just saying it makes no sense to me. I don't know what do you think

[Tyrant's Heart]

Where do you think Helen Cooper, inventor of the Lightmass Process, fit in, John?

[JohnWayne360]

Where do you think Helen Cooper, inventor of the Lightmass Process, fit in, John?

It's really hard to speculate, or formulate a theory about this character since all we know about her is what you have mentioned above. However, this does make her a very important player in the story since we could say she is the "catalyst" who ultimately is somewhat responsible for the "pendulum wars." I choose to see her as an "Albert Einstein" who happened to discover atomic energy and later got famous for it, in both good and bad terms. Do you guys start seeing the picture I'm drawing here? "LIGHT-MASS" Perhaps too much of a give-away but the only type of matter that contains both mass and raw energy is plasma, such as colloidal plasmas (vortexes), the type found in neon sign and fluorescent lights, blood, flames, lighting, solar waves, and the solar corona among other things (and of course, in the Gears universe, Imulsion). It is a type of matter that is neither a gas, a solid or a liquid, but depending on its charge (contains electrically charged particles at high energies) can come to resemble any of the previously mentioned states of matter. The parallels between Dr. Cooper and some historical scientists can truly be scary when using one's imagination..
As i mentioned in a previous theory, could it be possible that such a long exposure Imulsion caused the Locust of evolve this way? I mean look how far man has come since the discovery of fire. Dr. Cooper might as well have discovered the most efficient way to take advantage of Imulsion.
Just remember one thing, I'm not claiming to be right, it's pure speculation and we're all here just to kill time. Cheers.

[UnDeRøAtH]

Wow. Made the squishy stuff in my head think some. I like it. ^^

[LeBron]

Are you some kind of scientist, JohnWayne360?

[Infallible]

It's really hard to speculate, or formulate a theory about this character since all we know about her is what you have mentioned above. However, this does make her a very important player in the story since we could say she is the "catalyst" who ultimately is somewhat responsible for the "pendulum wars." I choose to see her as an "Albert Einstein" who happened to discover atomic energy and later got famous for it, in both good and bad terms. Do you guys start seeing the picture I'm drawing here? "LIGHT-MASS" Perhaps too much of a give-away but the only type of matter that contains both mass and raw energy is plasma, such as colloidal plasmas (vortexes), the type found in neon sign and fluorescent lights, blood, flames, lighting, solar waves, and the solar corona among other things (and of course, in the Gears universe, Imulsion). It is a type of matter that is neither a gas, a solid or a liquid, but depending on its charge (contains electrically charged particles at high energies) can come to resemble any of the previously mentioned states of matter. The parallels between Dr. Cooper and some historical scientists can truly be scary when using one's imagination..
As i mentioned in a previous theory, could it be possible that such a long exposure Imulsion caused the Locust of evolve this way? I mean look how far man has come since the discovery of fire. Dr. Cooper might as well have discovered the most efficient way to take advantage of Imulsion.
Just remember one thing, I'm not claiming to be right, it's pure speculation and we're all here just to kill time. Cheers.
I was about to say that :D

[RoNin]

Just saying to add waynes saying about berserker being bigger than most locust:In many species females are bigger than males, so i think here its the same case...

Im just thinking the hole inside of sera could be a locust city ;)

[FLIPINOM4D]

maybe they where there to begin with only in a hibernating state until humans built their civilization on the planet, and the Locust where getting ready to make an army big enough to defeat the human forces.

[skitzo22]

AHA!
So locusts are a mutant cross between a stalk and a baby!

my thoughts on this, from what everyone has said, and Cliff's clue, is that the Locusts are US!!!!

Humans that have evolved differently.

I say this because I remeber mention of certain locust species being referred to as "big apes".

I may be wrong, and If I'm right, I'm sure they won't say;)

carry on....

skitzo

[BEALbeal 485]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg
well that explains everything:)

[Janer]

From underworld,yes,they need the "IMULSION" as our,the war about energy……

[Themace1]

The locoust are no doubt from the core of the earth, but did they originate there? My theories are that they are either natives of earth that have been here 1,000,000 years before man and they are just another intelligent species like humans but more violent and have more brutal life styles because they have lived underground for so long.my 2nd theory is that they are just more evoloved humans that have learned to live in harsher life styles(such as underground) there fore are just humans that have been on earth for more than 1million years but there are no records of them because they were idk maybe scared of the dinosaurs and went into hiding and never came out then they evoloved over time and finally they were ready and strong eenough to come back on land and take the surface again. my 3rd theorie is the "war of the worlds theory" that they came here in space ships along time ago and inplanted them selves under ground and then came up blah blah blah you know the story. those are my thories hopfully you found them helpful.

[Damon Baird]

They come from the ground!

[Red Star]

Hi guys, I'm Wayne and I'm new to the forums but been terribly interested in the story of this game. I've read some of the ideas around and they're great! So I though I'll post mine. First of all, lets get the facts straight. We know they come from underground, which implies they are great at digging. We know they have advanced technology, which implies they have a working class producing said technology. This of course leads me to the idea that they are not mutants, or aliens, but a native "civilization" of Sera. I say civilization because they have a Hierarchy (theron guards are above drones, etc..). We also know they came up during the "pendulum wars" (wars for imulsion). This implies Imulsion is important to them because, I dont know what you guys think, but I doubt veggies grow underground without sunlight Imulsion is obviously a resource vital to their survival. How they get so smart? Well, if Imulsion is indeed a powerful energy source, then it is possible for it to be radioactive, causing them to breed and evolve at a pace more advanced that usual. Remember I said they must be good at digging? Well, I believe Sera to be a fairly big planet, and the locust must have dug all over Sera's underground core, which could easily explain the occurrence of so many species of Locust. Different species could very well be from different parts of Sera? Tamed into submission and servitude by the more advanced locust (pretty much in the way Persians tamed elephants into unstoppable war machines, uh Brumaks anyone?). One more thing I find interesting is that the "Berserker" being the female of the species is larger than both the Drones and the Boomer, this is very interesting for the following reason: Reverse Sexual Dimorphism. Basically the female is larger than the male to suit a faster metabolism needed to breed and protect their offspring, which in most cases is more than one. Most importantly, sexual dimorphic species tend to be "matriarchal" which means that the females are in control, reinforcing someone's idea of a possible "queen". Lastly, who's not to say the Locust dont come up every so often from underground to wreak havoc on the civilizations on the surface, using up their resources and dissapearing later. Maybe we need to ask ourselves where did the Serans got their advanced technology, instead of how the locust did it, maybe the Serans are a breed of Locust who adapted to the surface and and evolved (or devolved) into more civilized beings, product of a more forgiving environment. Anyways, i hope to get some feedback from u guys. Thanks

Just like a hive of bees, wasps, or a colony of ants... :o
And so the plot twists...

But another thing that bothered me is that they speak english. I'm not sure if that's just for our entertainment or infact that they're mutated humans. They've been underground for at least 14 years, who knows...they could've learned the english language, or they themselves have been native speakers of it (humans :P) who were mutated due to Imulsion, (explosive wraiths, anyone?).

Whatever the reason, they seem to know our language.

[RiskTakerGuy]

i cant but think about this wen gears of war is mentioned but where do the locusts come from? are they already there in the ground or is it like a war of the worlds outcome where the y just come here a million years ago and now ther striking?:confused:

The Stork.

[nyte owl]

the lack of details is gears major problem (next to squad a.i. issues). you really don't know much about anything expect for what's been said in interviews, clips, and the walkthrough guide. i found myself going through each act empty. the canvas is still empty and i guess almost everyone is waiting for details. speculations from players are fun/fine an dandy, in the end the creator(s) should have provided details in game to flesh things out.

[Cruxis]

nice information johnnyboy, perhaps ur a locust kinda guy yourself :P

[JohnWayne360]

Something that still kinda bothers me is the fact that the question still remains unanswered for the most part. I'm thinking about it though, and I have another theory in the works.

[munkeypantsman]

When a mommy and daddy love each other very much...

[Wookiee77]

Taking some info from johnwayne, but maybe they come up to gather food/resources(like hibernation). The locust come up every umm 100 years or sumtin and harvest the humans for there resources. the locust used the imulsion to evolve faster that the humans on the out side so they could be the dominate species. but now that the humans on sera have found the hiden resource the locust must retaliate. Thus destroy all the humans.so that they dont have any records og imulsion.then they send ummm a lesser species that dwells underground to the serface to gather resources for the locust to soon harvest years later:D a little werid around the edges it could happen

[JohnWayne360]

Well, first I'd like to thank you guys for all the good feedback i've received on my theories. You guys are great. Secondly, after playing the game, a lot of new ideas came to my mind, and after some brainstorming, this is what I came up with:

At the end of the game the voice says "they do not understand why we can't stop, why we won't stop, until we win, or die." If they're willing to fight until the end, than it has to be a matter of life or death. This reinforces my idea that something really bad is going on in the hollow (underground) and that the reason why they're coming up is because "up" is the only way out, and guess who's in the surface? Human beings. That's why they dig day and night, that's why they won't stop, that's why they can't stop. If they do, they're dead. The escaping Locust. Simple as that. Or perhaps the locust were tasked with protecting the hollow, and failing might bring catastrophic consequences, delivered to them by a higher, more powerful force.
In a nutshell, all that digging for emulsion perhaps disrupted a precious balance at the core, or near, and now everything is heating up for the "locust", which by the way I believe is a generic term the humans of Sera adopted for the collective species that make up the horde. At this point, Locuts resemble ants better than bees, as other theories have speculated. Ants are very varied in their species, much like the locust. Even their hiearchy resembles that of ants/bees. Furthermore, some species of ants have more of a similarity to wasps than other ants, since they can fly, have stings, etc.. Anyways, ther ein the same family almost. This makes sense when locusts such as reevers, corpsers, seeders, and the flying creature at the end of the game (looks a lot like a reever with the head of a corpser, just look at the teeth) are brought to mind. I would have no problem selelcting the aforementioned species and classifying them as "Insectoid Locusts," since their physical characteristics and capabilities greatly differ from the "Sapiens Locust" (Theron guards, drones, boomers, even beserkers and wretches). I chose this classification because of their characteristics. They use complex tools (guns), they have opposable thumbs, can domesticate other animals, and they also rely on language.
On a different note, it is also said that a colony of ants has the same brain power as a man ( an ant has about 250,000 brain cells, a human has 10,000 million, so a colony of 40,000 ants matches the raw brain power of a human being). Just think about that for a second. Can anyone make any connections, perhaps?
As far as the lady's voice goes, I believe her to be a being of much higher intelligence than the locust. A queen if one may have it. This idea is actually a hint, while playing MP once, I heard one of the locust characters say, "have to do it for the queen." It seems they don't want to fail because of fear of dissapointment, rather than fear of aggression. With that in mind, I have chose to see her as a nurturing type leader, as opposed to a military or monarch-type leader. The She might be the real origin of the locust. And of humans, the connections are there. Furthermore, notice how she refers to Serans as "humans of Sera" and to the creatures of the hollow as "locust'. While she is associated with the locust, there's no evidence to suggest she is one of them, she treats both humans and locust as if they were completely different to her. Now, remember what I said earlier about humans disrupting balance at the core? How about if instead of saying "disrupted" I say "disrespected"? The whole darned war might be a crusade of sorts. Why not? Has anyone else noticed the Cross looking symbol imprinted in the locust guns? I mean, wars of religion were fought before, and those who fought did so in a fanatical way. They did so cause they thought they were doing the bidding of a higher being, one that would save them from the horrors that could (would) come. I see more connections than disparities here. So, if one can agree that the locust are fighting for (with) the queen, then following with all dualist dogma, one has to at least consider that there is something else that wants to doom them. And thats why they wont stop. But that's for another day...

More to come, I promise.

PS: I know I'm way off but who cares, the game rocks

[Wookiee77]

I like it...

Maybe the "Queen" is as you said more intelligent, and has harnessed the Locust Horde to do her biding. AS in she is power hungry. Being as the locust live underground they no that there is a surface (they might know about the humans im suggesting that they do). The "Queen" has told them that the humans are stealing there imulsion or destroying there planet(either one). The "Queen" has also told them that the humans wont except them as they are and will destroy the locust horde if they ever found them. The queen must no about the humans and there mighty greed for all objects of power. Dr. Helen Cooper the scientist who invented the process to convert imulsion into a limitless energy source, thought that she had finally help sera have peace. But then a couple years later people got power hungry ounce again.


lol im just going to write what ever comes out of my mond now:D

Dr.Helen then tryed to get away from the war that she started by going under ground. she then discovered the locust beings. As she the more dominate intelligence harnest them, brought new technology into theer community, organized ranks and armys. She the one who could change imulsion must know alot about the energy source. She then started to to mutate some animals (monkeys into brumaks). The locust must obey her orders because they must think of her as ther sort of "God" or leader. She the smarter one convinces them that if they do not obey her than death or sumtin. Dr.Helen has become fed up with the humans and there wars and greed have ordered the locust to destroy them all so sear can once again have peace:D

[oO Saga Oo _]

who cares!? Play the game and find out!!! lazy bugger!!!!! ;)

game never told us...

[Kaine904]

Wow... umm... wow. So, i'm going to say... eh.. Wayne is an example of what impressive stuff... er... sexual dimorphismkizzlee...
I'm blown away by the level of analysis of the sexuality in his post, and it makes sense. Is there some sort of forum medal?

[Fuzzy]

Well I guess Imulsion plays a big part of the GOW Storyline. And the freaky woman voice Myrrah or something the locust Queen.

[JohnWayne360]

Guys, please read POST #79, let me know what you guys think.

[THERONWATCHER]

Hmmm, all so strange. I like your ideas, John Wayne 360, all the way up until the thing about the queen being someone else. I think that the Locusts are an individual species, not mutants, or anything like that, that have always lived under Sera's outer crust. They seem like they fit. They have even evolved in the dark, to some extent. My only real proof of this is the Berserker. From centurys of living in the dark, the females have lost their vision, and hightened their sense of smell and movement. But what I don't get is why isn't this the same with any other Locusts? I think that maybe the Male Locusts would actually migrate to the surface from time to time, doing all the work for the females and keeping them secure in a remote location. Maybe even migrating TOO females, or going to the surface or near the surface to compete for mating rights. I don't know, it just seems odd that the Berserker has receieved evolutions specific sense and strenghth hieghtening gift and the drones haven't. Strength, that is another thing. The berserkers must spend more time down below the surface because of their brute strenghth and indurance. Either this or they naturally grow much larger, like several females of our natural world. Also, this may be a bit off topic, but why do the Locust know words of the human language? Maybe their culture is a bit ruffer, or they found our language easier to comprehend than their own. This last bit, I just winged...oh well.

[Wookiee77]

From the time of E-day and present day the Locust have learnt some of the basics of seras language just as you might if you go to another country.

[THERONWATCHER]

Probably, but why shout out in a language their enemy can understand? Seems odd to me.

[musilowski]

The Locust come from dark holes, just like we humans do (for now atleast). ;)

I'd say that we would have to go far and far back into the beginning of primates, where two humanlike species got separated with the other one going underground, and the other living above ground like we did.

And then the dark environment made the underground folks lose pigment and stuff as they didn't need them, and they do not like bright light as they're eyes aren't too used to it...

As to how in the hell they could've lived without light and stuff, don't know, maybe something to do with imulsion or other underground creatures, maybe cannibalism?

Who knows...

[clayj]

Isn't the explanation obvious?

Sera is not Earth.

Humans didn't evolve on Sera... but the Locust did.

Humans are the invaders.

This is why the Locust can never stop fighting until they are victorious or dead. Humans have invaded their world, and the Locust didn't do anything about it at first... but then something the humans did caused a big problem for the Locust. Perhaps imulsion is part of the Locust ecosystem, or perhaps it's the very "blood" of Sera and humans mining imulsion translates into injury for the planet.

We all know that occupations never last indefinitely... so even though the Lightmass bomb may have caused huge amounts of damage to the Locust (and perhaps to Sera itself), the humans are really in an untenable position, long-term.

[Kronic Reaper]

i cant but think about this wen gears of war is mentioned but where do the locusts come from? are they already there in the ground or is it like a war of the worlds outcome where the y just come here a million years ago and now ther striking?:confused:

Why......The stork brings them ofcourse

[trooper707]

as clay said. seras aint the earth. seras was da locust planet. then humans came n all dat. for a while the locust didnt do nothin till somehtin happened then they got pissed n startin killin people n all dat. so yyeah.

[BLACKMOONX359]

ok i think that the locust don't care if we tear up the surface of the planet...because it well look like it do underground in there would... and maybe the blind female locust is born that way...to be a hunters...like the dudes that was hunting down Riddick in C.O.R.E.F.B.B

[AidenD]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg

it all makes sense now. i cant beleive i didnt see it before

[sliderjr2]

What if... The humans aren't really humans. Maybe they resemble humans.... but aren't.

Ha, that's really stupid but it's 4 in the morning and i'm stuck at work.

[ARKITOOTHUS]

i like the "Dr. Helen Cooper is the Queen" theory. Perhaps the Imulsion process has some terrible side effect that humans don't know about but she does? Maybe, like Einstein and other scientists regretting their contributions towards the creation of Nuclear weapons, she regrets what she has done and has turned to the only course of action that she see's fit, leading the locust against the imulsion wielding humans. Still not sure of the locust's origins though. o well!

[M4RCU5]

im sure epic will tell us what they had planned next e3 for gow3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[I3lackle]

Who cares!
The reason they attack is because of the immulsion weeeeeeeeeeeee
Its a awesome game, why bother thinking about where they came from when u have fun kicking the living crap outta them..

[M4RCU5]

You guys want to know where Locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, I feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg

Hey CliffyB are you really cliffy or are you just make your username that

[TaoTang]

Hey CliffyB are you really cliffy or are you just make your username that

How can you even ask that, of course its the real Cliffy B

[Lever24]

Isn't the explanation obvious?

Sera is not Earth.

Humans didn't evolve on Sera... but the Locust did.

Humans are the invaders.

This is why the Locust can never stop fighting until they are victorious or dead. Humans have invaded their world, and the Locust didn't do anything about it at first... but then something the humans did caused a big problem for the Locust. Perhaps imulsion is part of the Locust ecosystem, or perhaps it's the very "blood" of Sera and humans mining imulsion translates into injury for the planet.

We all know that occupations never last indefinitely... so even though the Lightmass bomb may have caused huge amounts of damage to the Locust (and perhaps to Sera itself), the humans are really in an untenable position, long-term.

its possible that the humans forced the locust underground when they first colonized the planet. the pendulum wars would have ensured that the humans were in a weakened position from the start of the locust retaliation. the most impotant thing about immulsion may be that the humans want it.

also, i have yet to hear about any confusion about what the locust were when they first attacked, its almost like the humans knew they were there, but just ignored them.

[Krugun]

I'm gonna say they are early human inhabinates of the planet that perfered to live underground, and the Urine-like substance down there caused them to mutate, and they also evolved to adapt to their surroundings.

That or people flushed their ugly spawn down the toilet, and now they;ve come back for revenge.

[M4RCU5]

No this is where the locust come from.
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Wow many great theory's and I think EPIC didn't even have a theory I bet they will steal one of your theory's or one of the many other that were not included, my bet is that EPIC will use the one they want, and will say that's what they were planning. So you guys are helping EPIC.


Also my theory is that the immoulsion war " AKA " The Pendolum Wars is the start of the locust, and I bet instead of prison they sent AWOL or people that refused to help out the war effort down to mine immoulsion with guards in armour and torge bows. After the years of the war the imoulsion had gotton to them and they were " locust " and the guards with armour, turned into locusts there armour got melted and the imoulsion created un-even sherts on the torge bow. Whitch is why it's great for mele's. Then the guards without torge bows ( whitch had m16's ) the immulsion made those into " Hammerbursts. " The snipers ( for long range runners to far for the torge bow, and the m16's ) the snipers+ immoulsion made that radient glow the scope has. Then varius other guns that the guards hade turned into other guns. When Helen Cooper wen't down to check on the inmates and guards they were locusts or dead. In exchange of death Helen had to become the queen. The locusts forced Helen to tell them about the COG MILTARY. So the locusts knew what they were going up against and on ED the locust attacked. Gears of War I happened. The light mass bomb was destroyed. Then marcucu's so called dead father was captured by the locusts and questioned while that happened landtown was getting pre-pared by the COG MILITARY... then the start of Gears of War II.


This theory was actually a dream that I dreamed one day I was asleep so don't caim it as your's, because it's not your's!!!

[Element2009]

I hope they reveal the backstory of the locust in Gears 2.

[Gearcommando]

i think there a separate strain of human that were driven underground and evolved and know there back for revenge

[ARKITOOTHUS]

I was just thinking about something. Everybody seems to think that the Locust Queen is not Locust because of her manner of speech and whatnot. I believed this too (as I stated earlier in this thread I thought Helen Cooper might be the Queen trying to end the destructive process she created), but then I thought about what she actually says..."They do not know why we wage this war". This makes me think that by referring to humans as "they" she is not human and by referring to "we" (which infers that she is including herself and the locust) as the locust, she is in fact locust herself. Any ideas on this?

[AidenD]

I was just thinking about something. Everybody seems to think that the Locust Queen is not Locust because of her manner of speech and whatnot. I believed this too (as I stated earlier in this thread I thought Helen Cooper might be the Queen trying to end the destructive process she created), but then I thought about what she actually says..."They do not know why we wage this war". This makes me think that by referring to humans as "they" she is not human and by referring to "we" (which infers that she is including herself and the locust) as the locust, she is in fact locust herself. Any ideas on this?

Well, maybe she is actually a human and when she says 'we' she means humanity and when she says 'they' she means the locust.
as said in another post... maybe mankind invaded the planet Sera. maybe they somehow found out about the imulsion and realised it was worth alot as said by one of the charecters during act 3 chapter 6 although it could be the blood of Sera as said in a previous post therefore the locust attacked and mankind retaliated. perhaps helen cooper is on mankind's side.
I do not think this is true. The posts just got me thinking:rolleyes:

[SHOGUN 47]

I bet Epic are stealing some ideas, or they are filling in the cracks with these awsome theories.

[sliderjr2]

alot of you have had some killer ideas. I personally think Helen cooper is the locust queen. But that's just my guess.

[xXxGeArSxFrEaKxXx]

you guys want to know where locust come from?

Here's a hint. Probably too spoiler-ish, but hey, i feel charitable today.

http://tinyurl.com/jbdeg
hahahahahahaha good one cliffy :)

[xXxGeArSxFrEaKxXx]

but I somewhat agree with M4RCU5,
I think Helen Cooper has something to do with the Locust,
I think she could be the Locust Queen
I think possibly the Locust had lived underground for millions of years, and when the humans started to use Immulsion, the Locust got mad and threatened, that their valuable source was being taken, so they took time to make these weapons until they were finally ready to fight

Just a guess :D

[Bigbadbull]

They're mole people obviously...

[Sanjeev]

Title of thread reminds me of kids asking their parents,
Where do babie's come from?

[UKS_BulletPoint]

Could just quote the Destroyed Beauty artbook but i can't remember it exactly and i can't be bothered to get it so the inhabitants thought they are the mutated natives if Sera whereas the COGs say "they come straight from Hell".

[bguy030]

[QUOTE=M4RCU5]
So the locusts knew what they were going up against and on ED the locust attacked. Gears of War I happened. The light mass bomb was destroyed. Then marcucu's so called dead father was captured by the locusts and questioned while that happened landtown was getting pre-pared by the COG MILITARY... then the start of Gears of War II.
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First of all, GOW1 started 14 years after E-day. So, when E-day happened, then they took Adam Fenix was killed by General RAAM. Marcus got a distress call from his father and so left his post to help him. When he got there, Adam was dead and RAAM was gone. Then he was put in jail 10 years after Eday, and 4 years later, was rescued by Dom. Then, well u know the rest.

[xlXlx xXx xlXlx]

I have an idea. Perhaps The Locust are there because they have to be. If I remember correctly at the end of Gears 1, the female voice says that the humans do not know why they fight, they do not know why they must win and that they will keep fighting until they win or all die.


Now this gets me thinking that they might be there by force. Maybe they are from another planet and were sent there to kill off all the humans. And maybe their own home world is in harms way. Some other force may be holding their world hostage, so to say. The other force may have given them this option to do this and they will spare the Locust’s world. And if they don’t then the other force would destroy their planet.

While I think this could be a decent theory, I don’t think it’s right. It would add way to much more to the story that I don’t think could fit in 2 or 3 games. But I figured I’d post my idea anyways. I have another idea that I’m working on that I’ll post soon.


EDIT*

Adding another theory.

Other ideas I think about are still based off the end of Gears 1 where the female voice says that the humans do not know why they fight, they do not know why they must win and that they will keep fighting until they win or all die.

Now think, what is happening to the Locust that they feel they have to fight for their survival. Why do they have to win or die trying. If they aren’t from another world or dimension, then they do indeed live under the surface. That is their home. Perhaps there is something the humans are doing that we aren’t aware of yet that is hurting them, killing off their home. The humans aren’t aware that whatever it is they are doing is hurting the Locust because they never knew they insisted. Perhaps some of the Locust tried to contact the humans but they wouldn’t listen or having anything to do with them. So now they wage war because there is nothing else they can do to save themselves.