PappyPwernton
02-26-2009, 05:31 PM
I am going to try and state a objective criticism of Gear of War 2. I am sure you all have heard this before but I feel I need to state my opinion.
I am a 32 year old gamer and I have been playing shooters, sims rts for over 10 years. I first got a xbox 360 last year and ported over from PC games because I was told there is less cheats on console, everyone has same hardware and fewer exploits. At no means do I think I am a elite GOW2 Player. I average between .8 and 1.3 Kill death ration in the last 3 or 4 months of playing and still a Corporal in the game. I owned GOW and never played it online so I cant compare. Here are the issues I see need attention and some are immediate which I am waiting for Tu3 update, if issues are not resolved I will either use this game as a beer coaster or its going back to Gamestop for credit like many other titles I have owned in past.
1. Client hosting. Why in this day in age does this game still use client hosting. Example Bad Company uses dedicated servers. Now client hosting puts everyone else that is not host at a disadvantage. Ever run into the super host where his shotgun works and your fires ghost rounds. Last night I put a player down and I had 5 friends in party. I had the time to stand right above him to fire a head shot. My first round was directly on target at less than 1 m. Nothing, fired second shot and off with his head. Dedicated servers are needed to avoid the super host we all dread.
2. Standbyers, we all have seen the youtube videos and its disgusting, why play the game if you need to exploit. For me it makes the game totaly unenjoyable. You can file complaint on all the exploiters you suspect tell your face is blue. I always do. Does anything happen, of course not there is no Xbox cyber police. Fear 2 which its mulitplayer is not wonderful has one great feature, it auto kicks any player with bad connection or connection interuptions.
3. I know the quiters have been addressed and it will now add a bot. I stay in game even if it is 1 vs 5, why because If i get one kill I feel it was a challege. I say a 3 strikes rule should apply, 3 times of hitting your xbox button and hitting Y and dashboarding you should be reduced in rank one strip. Why do I say 3, well some ppl get connection problems they cant control or say power outage.
4. Rank, I know the discussion of rank has been address and they talking about a total experience system. Well as it is right now, I check stats and see a player that has a .5 kill death ration and less time played yet he a Gold 3 striping Sergeant. Yet I remain a Corporal with higher kill death, why, well he has 200 wins and 50 loses lol. Now could that be legit, I suppose but I bet its due to alot of quiting when losing a match.
5. Smoke grenades. Why is it I can be knocked down by a smoke grenade 10 meters away, what is there effective range? 50 meters? I am a 12 year Vetran in Army. I have used frags, Know I know this is a game but a M67 fragmentation grenade has a 5 m kill radius and 15 meter casuality( within 15m there is 70% chance of you taking fragments). Like I said I get knocked down at what seems 15 or 20 meters sometimes yet the roadie running charge noob just runs right past mine and two pieces you before you can even switch back to your shotgun.
6. I was intially very excited about this game due to the teamwork and tatics need to win. Lonewolfing usualy means instant death if you run up on 2 enemy. I am disappointed that the cover system dont realy apply, its all about manuever here. Roll, shoot, roll shoot roadie run charge roll shot. It takes away any skill of marksmanship expect use of sniper rifle. The primary weapon has become the shotgun. I thought that was a back up for close range. I do like the Lancer now it has stopping power but the Hammerburst seems to lack that, I prefer the hammer due to chainsawing leaves u wide open to attack. Can we get back into Hammerburst and Lancer primary weapons and force players to use cover not just charge, two piece roadie run and roll and shoot. Sometimes the roll fights last forever and it really takes away true skill. Alot of battles are luck, who last a good hip fire after a roll and rolls again and lands another. It seems you are penalized for actually using left trigger to aim. Yeah occansionaly I land the well aim shotgun shot to the grape and blow a players head off. Dont get me wrong I do like you can exscape a two piece now or defend yourself with a hip fire but its truely skill less to roll shoot roll shoot. It has its purpose but it has become the main focus now.
7. Okay now about the tractor beam Chainsaw. I truely prefer not to use the saw. I find no skill in it, and I see why so many use it. Its easy and always instant kill. How many of use have been charge our chased by a chainsaw with your shotgun out. I know you can shot a charging chainsawer with lancer fire, now vs the shotgun, yeah if you land a close range squared up shot u can, but many times it does not even slow them down or stop the saw from reveing. I think a well aimed shot that does not splatter a player should atleast stop him in his tracks and reset his saw. As a soldier i wear the Improved Outer tactical vest with blastic armour plates that will stop a 7.62 mm Armor pierice round. So lets say your close range and you take a the full force of a 00 buck shotgun blast in your chest. With armour it probaly will not kill you but its gunna stun you and stop you in your track if not knock you down. So tell me how it if you blast a saw charger and blast him squre in the body it still continues to move in and saws you before you can fire next shot?????????. I think the saw melee needs tweaked to make some type of skill needed to use it, like perfect timing like many other games that use melee attack. I know we all have seen players just running around firing up the saw and getting kills. Now hiding around cover at close range and surprising a player who has a shotgun out and cutting them in half takes timing and some sort of skill that is understandable. Lets address the saw tractor beam charge and give player a chance to defeat it. I know there are those of you gunna say, oh I just splatter them, well that does not always work, yeah maybe some of my shot blast missed the target but I believe taking even half of the buckshot would stop a man in his tracks and stun him and allow you a chance to survive. Yes you can roll back good tatic but what if there is obstruction behind you, your done or in a confined space. Allow us to better defend ourself from saw and make some sort of skill required to achieve a saw kill.
8. Player skill match making works 50% of time and forces users to spend more time finding a match than playing a match. Sometimes it finds players for equal skill. I dont mind being matched up with better players because you get more points for winning, but a match up of 2 corporals and 2 pvts vs 3 sgts and 2 corporals is usually the norm. If your gunna claim the server is finding players of simliar skill than how about implement it. 3 brand new players and 2 adverage vs vetrans is far too common.
I am sure there is plent more to talk about. That is my assessement. I am waiting for TU3, if the major problems not addressed, standbyers, glitchers, exploiters are not corrected, GOW2 will make a fine beer coaster, I am not gunna waste the little free time I got player cheaters and tampering noobs.
If your a 3 stripping Sergeant or above and earned it than I praise you if your a quitter than you have no honor. I know its just a game, but like all things in life Honor means a little something to me. I take the time to file bad reviews and complaints on all quiters and exploiters. I am even thinking of setting up my HDD camcored on tripod and start my own set of youtube videos of exploiters for all to enjoy viewing what you call ownage. Maybe even start my own website to post your honorless gameplay. Just look at the Sports industry and the decline of honor and integrity. Some of you give gamers the bad rep of punks poor sports. Oh I will talk smack and have fun who does not, its all part of the game. I always give respect to someone that truely played well. If you must cheat to gain virtual respect and honor I am sure you will do the same in your real life and remain unemployed and living in a basement with mom and dad and continue to give us gamers that bad reputation. For those of you that play fair, I will join your party and play with you online. I enjoy playing only Mulitplayer games with friends and having a good time and the laughs. My xbox tag is PappyPwnerton. Oh and for those of you that tried to invite me into private matches to show me how you expoited ie Shield glitch, dont bother I dont care to know. Just like Call of Duty World of War. I dont need to hide under the map to try and win, winning is not everything if you think so than your a TRUE NOOB.
I am a 32 year old gamer and I have been playing shooters, sims rts for over 10 years. I first got a xbox 360 last year and ported over from PC games because I was told there is less cheats on console, everyone has same hardware and fewer exploits. At no means do I think I am a elite GOW2 Player. I average between .8 and 1.3 Kill death ration in the last 3 or 4 months of playing and still a Corporal in the game. I owned GOW and never played it online so I cant compare. Here are the issues I see need attention and some are immediate which I am waiting for Tu3 update, if issues are not resolved I will either use this game as a beer coaster or its going back to Gamestop for credit like many other titles I have owned in past.
1. Client hosting. Why in this day in age does this game still use client hosting. Example Bad Company uses dedicated servers. Now client hosting puts everyone else that is not host at a disadvantage. Ever run into the super host where his shotgun works and your fires ghost rounds. Last night I put a player down and I had 5 friends in party. I had the time to stand right above him to fire a head shot. My first round was directly on target at less than 1 m. Nothing, fired second shot and off with his head. Dedicated servers are needed to avoid the super host we all dread.
2. Standbyers, we all have seen the youtube videos and its disgusting, why play the game if you need to exploit. For me it makes the game totaly unenjoyable. You can file complaint on all the exploiters you suspect tell your face is blue. I always do. Does anything happen, of course not there is no Xbox cyber police. Fear 2 which its mulitplayer is not wonderful has one great feature, it auto kicks any player with bad connection or connection interuptions.
3. I know the quiters have been addressed and it will now add a bot. I stay in game even if it is 1 vs 5, why because If i get one kill I feel it was a challege. I say a 3 strikes rule should apply, 3 times of hitting your xbox button and hitting Y and dashboarding you should be reduced in rank one strip. Why do I say 3, well some ppl get connection problems they cant control or say power outage.
4. Rank, I know the discussion of rank has been address and they talking about a total experience system. Well as it is right now, I check stats and see a player that has a .5 kill death ration and less time played yet he a Gold 3 striping Sergeant. Yet I remain a Corporal with higher kill death, why, well he has 200 wins and 50 loses lol. Now could that be legit, I suppose but I bet its due to alot of quiting when losing a match.
5. Smoke grenades. Why is it I can be knocked down by a smoke grenade 10 meters away, what is there effective range? 50 meters? I am a 12 year Vetran in Army. I have used frags, Know I know this is a game but a M67 fragmentation grenade has a 5 m kill radius and 15 meter casuality( within 15m there is 70% chance of you taking fragments). Like I said I get knocked down at what seems 15 or 20 meters sometimes yet the roadie running charge noob just runs right past mine and two pieces you before you can even switch back to your shotgun.
6. I was intially very excited about this game due to the teamwork and tatics need to win. Lonewolfing usualy means instant death if you run up on 2 enemy. I am disappointed that the cover system dont realy apply, its all about manuever here. Roll, shoot, roll shoot roadie run charge roll shot. It takes away any skill of marksmanship expect use of sniper rifle. The primary weapon has become the shotgun. I thought that was a back up for close range. I do like the Lancer now it has stopping power but the Hammerburst seems to lack that, I prefer the hammer due to chainsawing leaves u wide open to attack. Can we get back into Hammerburst and Lancer primary weapons and force players to use cover not just charge, two piece roadie run and roll and shoot. Sometimes the roll fights last forever and it really takes away true skill. Alot of battles are luck, who last a good hip fire after a roll and rolls again and lands another. It seems you are penalized for actually using left trigger to aim. Yeah occansionaly I land the well aim shotgun shot to the grape and blow a players head off. Dont get me wrong I do like you can exscape a two piece now or defend yourself with a hip fire but its truely skill less to roll shoot roll shoot. It has its purpose but it has become the main focus now.
7. Okay now about the tractor beam Chainsaw. I truely prefer not to use the saw. I find no skill in it, and I see why so many use it. Its easy and always instant kill. How many of use have been charge our chased by a chainsaw with your shotgun out. I know you can shot a charging chainsawer with lancer fire, now vs the shotgun, yeah if you land a close range squared up shot u can, but many times it does not even slow them down or stop the saw from reveing. I think a well aimed shot that does not splatter a player should atleast stop him in his tracks and reset his saw. As a soldier i wear the Improved Outer tactical vest with blastic armour plates that will stop a 7.62 mm Armor pierice round. So lets say your close range and you take a the full force of a 00 buck shotgun blast in your chest. With armour it probaly will not kill you but its gunna stun you and stop you in your track if not knock you down. So tell me how it if you blast a saw charger and blast him squre in the body it still continues to move in and saws you before you can fire next shot?????????. I think the saw melee needs tweaked to make some type of skill needed to use it, like perfect timing like many other games that use melee attack. I know we all have seen players just running around firing up the saw and getting kills. Now hiding around cover at close range and surprising a player who has a shotgun out and cutting them in half takes timing and some sort of skill that is understandable. Lets address the saw tractor beam charge and give player a chance to defeat it. I know there are those of you gunna say, oh I just splatter them, well that does not always work, yeah maybe some of my shot blast missed the target but I believe taking even half of the buckshot would stop a man in his tracks and stun him and allow you a chance to survive. Yes you can roll back good tatic but what if there is obstruction behind you, your done or in a confined space. Allow us to better defend ourself from saw and make some sort of skill required to achieve a saw kill.
8. Player skill match making works 50% of time and forces users to spend more time finding a match than playing a match. Sometimes it finds players for equal skill. I dont mind being matched up with better players because you get more points for winning, but a match up of 2 corporals and 2 pvts vs 3 sgts and 2 corporals is usually the norm. If your gunna claim the server is finding players of simliar skill than how about implement it. 3 brand new players and 2 adverage vs vetrans is far too common.
I am sure there is plent more to talk about. That is my assessement. I am waiting for TU3, if the major problems not addressed, standbyers, glitchers, exploiters are not corrected, GOW2 will make a fine beer coaster, I am not gunna waste the little free time I got player cheaters and tampering noobs.
If your a 3 stripping Sergeant or above and earned it than I praise you if your a quitter than you have no honor. I know its just a game, but like all things in life Honor means a little something to me. I take the time to file bad reviews and complaints on all quiters and exploiters. I am even thinking of setting up my HDD camcored on tripod and start my own set of youtube videos of exploiters for all to enjoy viewing what you call ownage. Maybe even start my own website to post your honorless gameplay. Just look at the Sports industry and the decline of honor and integrity. Some of you give gamers the bad rep of punks poor sports. Oh I will talk smack and have fun who does not, its all part of the game. I always give respect to someone that truely played well. If you must cheat to gain virtual respect and honor I am sure you will do the same in your real life and remain unemployed and living in a basement with mom and dad and continue to give us gamers that bad reputation. For those of you that play fair, I will join your party and play with you online. I enjoy playing only Mulitplayer games with friends and having a good time and the laughs. My xbox tag is PappyPwnerton. Oh and for those of you that tried to invite me into private matches to show me how you expoited ie Shield glitch, dont bother I dont care to know. Just like Call of Duty World of War. I dont need to hide under the map to try and win, winning is not everything if you think so than your a TRUE NOOB.