Stop b****ing about the chainsaw.

[Impreza88]

If you run right up to me and just let it happen, then that's your fault. Don't yell at me after the round about how cheap I am and I'm a ***** for chainsawing you and blah blah blah. You could have just as easily chainsawed me. It's a part of the game people, why you keep complaining about it is beyond me. It's one of the main trademarks of GOW, it ain't going anywhere so the sooner you stop complaining about it just because your pride is a little hurt afterwards, then the sooner we can get on with actually playing.

P.S.- The quitting has GOT to stop. I played 6 games today. I wasn't able to make through ONE OF THEM without someone quitting in the first few rounds.

[DenyThisFlesh]

I agree that if you run right into the chainsaw, you have no right to complain. The problem with the chainsaw is that sometimes the guy revving the saw can take a ridiculous number of shots and not lower it. This usually only happens in laggy games, but a lot of people get laggy games pretty frequently so it is a problem. I really think it would be better if the chainsaw was lowered anytime the person is shot like it was in Gears 1. They don't need to be stunned, just lower the saw and have to rev it again before they can get the kill. That would make it more balanced.

[Impreza88]

I agree that if you run right into the chainsaw, you have no right to complain. The problem with the chainsaw is that sometimes the guy revving the saw can take a ridiculous number of shots and not lower it. This usually only happens in laggy games, but a lot of people get laggy games pretty frequently so it is a problem. I really think it would be better if the chainsaw was lowered anytime the person is shot like it was in Gears 1. They don't need to be stunned, just lower the saw and have to rev it again before they can get the kill. That would make it more balanced.

Really? I've always been able to stop someone for the most part. I haven't had very many laggy games though.

[DenyThisFlesh]

Really? I've always been able to stop someone for the most part. I haven't had very many laggy games though.

I can usually avoid the chainsaw too, even in laggy games, but it can get pretty ridiculous at times. If I shoot a guy 3-4 times with my shotgun and he's still revving the saw there's a problem.

[< Profess >]

Still easier to evade than 2-piecing though.

[DenyThisFlesh]

Still easier to evade than 2-piecing though.

No argument there. I think they need to bring back the stun for when a melee user gets shot. That would drastically reduce the effectiveness of the 2-piece.

[xSnagar]

If the chainsaw is a special weapon/icon of Gears of War, then why make it so accessible to use, which would surely make more people hate they f*cking thing?

[FullMetalCake]

i hate it cause my instinct always tells me to shoot and shoot to down the lancer cause of the non stop gears 1 playing, but it DOESNT WORK, makes me so mad cause i know it doesnt work but i cant help it cause it saved my life more times then it costed me to die ( since gears 2 that is )

[CS Shadow Fang]

If you run right up to me and just let it happen, then that's your fault. Don't yell at me after the round about how cheap I am and I'm a ***** for chainsawing you and blah blah blah. You could have just as easily chainsawed me. It's a part of the game people, why you keep complaining about it is beyond me. It's one of the main trademarks of GOW, it ain't going anywhere so the sooner you stop complaining about it just because your pride is a little hurt afterwards, then the sooner we can get on with actually playing.

P.S.- The quitting has GOT to stop. I played 6 games today. I wasn't able to make through ONE OF THEM without someone quitting in the first few rounds.
well soon it wont be a problem thanks to the new update...so i suppose the B****ers won right? lol

[Herb]

I agree, but please, don't use the "It's part of the game" argument. Quitting out early is part of the game, should we all stop complaining about that and do it aswell? No..

[Impreza88]

I agree, but please, don't use the "It's part of the game" argument. Quitting out early is part of the game, should we all stop complaining about that and do it aswell? No..

Uh, your argument, it makes no sense. Quitting out of the game is not something intended nor is it an integral part of the game. Hence the reason YOU CAN'T QUIT OUT OF THE GAME WITHOUT EXITING THE GAME COMPLETELY. The chainsaw on the other hand, was designed and is used as intended.

[xHAMY13]

I dont hate the chainsaw
its the fact that it doesnt lower. EG: dive back shoot a guy twice with my shotgun he lounges on through and chainsaws me !!

[Mortificus]

what i hate about the chainsaw, is what just happened to me (and it tends to happen frequently)

i have the boomshot, and a guy is running toward me with the chainsaw (he started waaaay to close to say "you should have shot him earlier) i shoot, feel the kick of the shot, see the flare of it leaving the barrel..... but somehow, he still chainsaws me through it, and my shot magically disappears.

this is a problem that has happened a fair few times, though only in laggy games, as i was getting shot AROUND walls during that game

[x iiM DaLTo]

The chainsaw is stupid because anyone can pick up a controller and hold down the "B" button.

[CS Shadow Fang]

Uh, your argument, it makes no sense. Quitting out of the game is not something intended nor is it an integral part of the game. Hence the reason YOU CAN'T QUIT OUT OF THE GAME WITHOUT EXITING THE GAME COMPLETELY. The chainsaw on the other hand, was designed and is used as intended.

really?? thats sad u being stupid and all, but he can say that the chainsaw wasnt intended to be overused the way it was. And yes using the Its part of the game line is just pathetic that u cant come up with ur own ideas. Also just to make sure u've gotten my point, it the chainsaw was meant to be used the way it was then...why r they fixing it.

[Impreza88]

really?? thats sad u being stupid and all, but he can say that the chainsaw wasnt intended to be overused the way it was. And yes using the Its part of the game line is just pathetic that u cant come up with ur own ideas. Also just to make sure u've gotten my point, it the chainsaw was meant to be used the way it was then...why r they fixing it.

Okay? You completely dodged why you were wrong and went into a personal tirade against me. Bravo. Who says its being overused? And what are they fixing? They're fixing the hit detection so that it lowers like its supposed to. You know damn well that people b****ed in GOW1 too when they got chainsawed so don't play dumb and there was nothing wrong with the chainsaw then was it? No, but people still whined. So I don't understand why you keep bringing up the fact they're fixing the bug, it's not like the chainsaw is actually being deleted or something.

[CS Shadow Fang]

Okay? You completely dodged why you were wrong and went into a personal tirade against me. Bravo. Who says its being overused? And what are they fixing? They're fixing the hit detection so that it lowers like its supposed to. You know damn well that people b****ed in GOW1 too when they got chainsawed so don't play dumb and there was nothing wrong with the chainsaw then was it? No, but people still whined. So I don't understand why you keep bringing up the fact they're fixing the bug, it's not like the chainsaw is actually being deleted or something.

how exactly am i wrong. everyone that plays with a little thing called skill thinks the chainsaw is overused. ive gotten to the point that i completely stopped using the Lancer at all just because of the chainsaw. I believe the chainsaw in number 1 was perfect. It wasn't overused and you could only get 1 or 2 kills a game with it. and yeah sure people might have gotten upset if they were chainsawed but it wasnt to the point that they begged Epic to fix it, or in your colorful terms B****ed about it. oh if Epic truly thought that the chainsaw was perfect they wouldnt be patching it now would they. It is their game. Oh the reason im bringing up the patch is because it proves your wrong about the legitimacy of the chainsaw being used in the game. When this game came out i made a vow that i wouldnt play it again until they fixed it. once the update comes out i will play it again, and if they didnt fix it to the point where it is near its former glory then i will continue to not play it until they do.

[subcons]

Okay? You completely dodged why you were wrong and went into a personal tirade against me. Bravo. Who says its being overused? And what are they fixing? They're fixing the hit detection so that it lowers like its supposed to. You know damn well that people b****ed in GOW1 too when they got chainsawed so don't play dumb and there was nothing wrong with the chainsaw then was it? No, but people still whined. So I don't understand why you keep bringing up the fact they're fixing the bug, it's not like the chainsaw is actually being deleted or something.

So you played GoW1? Sure, people *****ed about getting chainsawed, even after it was updated, but that's just the nature of people. I'm not one to ***** about anything, but the chainsaw is broken the way it is. It needs to be exactly like it was after the update in GoW1. If I shoot someone while they're walking at me with a chainsaw revved, it should lower as a consequence.

The chainsaw was not intended as a charging weapon like it's being used. It's meant for humiliation kills. People know it's broken and they exploit it; again, human nature. If I get chainsawed in the back because I wasn't paying attention, that's fair game. But when I shoot someone in the face with my gun and they walk right through it while holding the B button, that's just unbalanced and is not what Epic intended which is obvious by the fact that it's being fixed. So no, it's not part of the game.

[< Profess >]

It's annoying when you get killed by it, but then, how is that any different from the Gears1 saw? I would bet most respectable players have a very low number of deaths to the saw, quite simply because it is not hard to evade.

Always assume close range one shotting will never work and that saw will never, ever lower and you will win. All it takes is a degree of prediction, and some basic shooting skills.



The chainsaw was not intended as a charging weapon like it's being used. It's meant for humiliation kills. People know it's broken and they exploit it; again, human nature.

Well there is a shot threshold, that's for sure. It doesn't instantly stun (offline), and that does tell you that it's intended to be used when a melee weapon is appropriate. It still works well as more than a sneaky kill. I mean if the saw is reduced to that then there is no reason melee in general shouldn't be nerfed.

After all, 2-piecing is far worse than the unstunable saw.

[MinionDX]

Guys, guys, I saw today a guy shoot a chainsaw *** directly in the feet with the boomshot and he didnt get knocked back... or die
And what about when the chainsaw *** runs right into me? What am I SUPPOSED to run away, thats trash.

[ItsCPTMCLOVIN]

OK I mean they've done everything to make it weaker alredy

You run extra slow
Your a sitting duck while revving
you can get 2 pieced even if u have it revved
and if you get a chainsaw kill most times u die

i mean its a one hit hit kill weapon

If a guys aiming a boom shot you dont stand there and shoot

If a guys aiming a HAmmer of dawn you dont stand there and shoot

If a guys aiming a Sniper you dont stand there and shoot

If a guys aiming a Torque you dont stand there and shoot

If a guys aiming a Mulcher you dont stand there and shoot

so why is the chainsaw different

[MinionDX]

Because I start HAMMERBURSTING a guy thats 50m meters away from me who has his chainsaw revved and slowly surely he runs straight up and I roll away and start to run but its magical sucking powers devour me and all he had to do was run around holding B
Which is all gow is now

[FullMetalCake]

it was okay in gears 1 cause you could blind fire and walk backwards at the same time, NOW YOU CANNOT BLIND FIRE, so you have to aim and while you aim you stand still, you DO NOT move BACKWARDS, and you always forget the chainsaw is UNDOWNABLE.

[CS Shadow Fang]

i once decided to use nothing but the chainsaw for one game to see how many kills i got with it. ONLY THE CHAINSAW. it was king of the hill and when the game ended i had 34 kills. WITH THE CHAINSAW ONLY. thats just not right.

[MeowPatrol]

Just because something is part of the game doesn't mean that it should automatically be accepted. If EPIC decided to introduce a thermonuclear warhead into the game that killed everyone (aside from the user) instantly as soon as it was picked up, would you be happy with it because it was part of the game? No, chances are it would need at the very least improving, but preferably removal from the game.

My opinion of the chainsaw is that it was pretty good in Gears of War 1 and too easy to use in Gears of War 2. It was a little annoying that a single stray Lancer bullet would lower your saw in Gears 1, but it served very well to counter people who would roll/charge straight towards you. It was also effective at killing people if you came around a corner with it.

That is not to say it is not part of the game and that it should not be used as is, but I think that the overall amount of fun I have in close-quarters-combat would be improved if the chainsaw and melee were both stunned from damage.

[< Profess >]

i once decided to use nothing but the chainsaw for one game to see how many kills i got with it. ONLY THE CHAINSAW. it was king of the hill and when the game ended i had 34 kills. WITH THE CHAINSAW ONLY. thats just not right.

It's also KotH. You could do that in Gears1.

[DenyThisFlesh]

It's also KotH. You could do that in Gears1.

Yeah, chainsaw kills are much easier to get in territories games since you can respawn. If you chainsaw in a game of execution or warzone, you'll usually get killed before you can even finish and your round will be over.

[Tai_Kaliso]

I think the anomisity lies in the fact that many long time veteran players of Gears will ditch there lancer (or hammerburst) for whatever special weapon they pick up (longshot for example) while retaining their shotgun for close combat.

This leaves them more vulnerable to the Lancer's chainsaw, and as mentioned it now generally takes more shots to keep an opponent from using one.

This is naturally frustrating if it happens often enough.

It's a question of tatics and style really. I just play private matches against bots so chainsawing is rarely a problem for me. Most of it is good old fashioned shooting.

[Broken Token]

I have no problem with people who choose to chainsaw. When I complain about the chainsaw, I am directing my complaint toward the actually chainsaw mechanics such as the non lowering and vacuum. I also include the shotgun/lag in my complaint as many times i have shot a player in very close proximity attempting to chainsaw 2 or more times and they were not downed or killed.

[x iiM DaLTo]

The only people not complaining are the people that just chainsaw and nothing else.

[Heineken69]

Obviuosly the chainsaw is a GoW trademark....But I think is a little overpowered....the chainsaw is like a vacuum cleaner, it sucks u from very far.....they should fix that........ NO MORE CHAINSAW VACUUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blackwater]

Every melee is pretty overpowered and skillless and it's been that way since Gears 1.

I love both games but Gears 2 has revolutionized the art of cheap kills.

[retroking1]

thte reason people get so mad about the chainsaw is but it shows no skill. that just it. jus know if u chainsaw 75% of the time...........ur bad

[Mjolnir]

If you run right up to me and just let it happen, then that's your fault. Don't yell at me after the round about how cheap I am and I'm a ***** for chainsawing you and blah blah blah. You could have just as easily chainsawed me. It's a part of the game people, why you keep complaining about it is beyond me. It's one of the main trademarks of GOW, it ain't going anywhere so the sooner you stop complaining about it just because your pride is a little hurt afterwards, then the sooner we can get on with actually playing.

P.S.- The quitting has GOT to stop. I played 6 games today. I wasn't able to make through ONE OF THEM without someone quitting in the first few rounds.

....and you still manage to chainsaw me. Hope you're not one of those who enjoys chainsawing but complain about being 2-pieced if it happens to you.